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May 19th, 2013
Madison's lovely JOURNAL of LRs
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#61

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hey madison r u still doing this thread
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FR: I successfully completed “THE UPGRADE”


I did it
I successfully completed “the upgrade”
The upgrade is when you flirt with on girl and then try to move on to her fried or sister.
Usually what happens is you come of as a perv or sleezy, but I did it. I was just carefully about where the line is. And not to pass it. When I guy is too direct or flirts to hardcore I also notice the girl looses interest because there is noting for her to do. I flirt 49% of the way, and I don’t cross it. If that makes sence.

Nights going ok. RSD Mathieu, Simon, Alex, and Fingerman are at Karinas Lounge on Cressant street, and partying hard in the middle of the dance floor. Dancing with no shame. I have already gotten 2 phone numbers. P.s. I hate phone numbers

Fingerman points out some blonde girls. He says go and pretend you are ordering a drink at the bar. (Quick note: I totally agree with this approach, in stead of going direct. Going direct on this girl would be considered obvious or “basic” and would be so lame. So I go up and look through my wallet for some cash. None. Great.
I notice some guy buying them drinks.
I open up the 6.5 blonde: “Don’t forget to tell that random guy to buy me a drink too”
She laughs
I slide up to the bar. Back to the bar. Locked in
We chat, she says they are all from Road Island.
I tease them and say they are only Cows in Road Island.
She says all the girls are her sisters.
They all talk over each other. I tease them and say one at a time.
I talk to the other 6 sister. I get her to throw up gang signs to the hip hop music.
I go back to blonde 6.5. She shows me her tattoos, and jewelry. Its just an excuse to touch her. Shes into boats. I don’t know why.
Im super locked in, They are forming a hot blonde circle around me. Mathieu and Fingerman come in ,and I introduce them.
I back turn 6.5 and ask the 6 if her sister is a trouble maker.
I pull in 6.5 and ask if shes trouble, she says yes. I tell her she should be spanked. She agrees. I tell her I like trouble. I try to put her arm around me. It stays for like 20 seconds only. Hmmm… shes not ready yet.
I brush the hair away from her face.
The girls all dance for a bit.
There is a HB blonde 8 sister I did not talk to.
I tell Fingerman I want to upgrade. But I don’t know if I crossed the line.
I have been supper friendly and sweet, but my attitude and vibe are like im not leaning in or grilling them. I am just being fucking cool. Cooler then Brad and Sugar Sammy.

(NOTE: “Actively set the frame ,of your reality,during the interaction by narrating the situation. Narrate the way you want things to be. Shop the option pool from from which people choose. Establish a conversation rhythm that generates reaction. Using reaction eliciting statement. There should be no outcome attachment with her response. Get her to call into question her reality by breaking social conventions for her to see.”)

Hot Blonde 8 sister comes over. We chat. I don’t even know about what.
But im holding her hand lightly and tickling her fingers with mine. This goes on for like 2 mins. I turn to Fingerman, I tell him its on.
We see Blonde 6 in the back, getting jealous, but she is too much of a chode to do anything.
Good for her. She stepped away, she had her chance, you snooze you loose baby.
I bust HB8 about looking underage. I ask for ID.
She takes it out. Shes 24. I place the photo right next to her face. I tell her she looks sad in her picture. Fingerman is amused.
The boys decide to go outside.
Me and the girl take this video:




She starts dancing on me, grinding im rubbing her. She has a tight little ass.
I go for a kiss, very rusty. I try using pattern interrupts. Its all messy. No dice
I ask all the pulling questions
Maybe I should wait for the makeout before asking pulling questions.
Shes in a hotel with her family, sisters and mom and dad. 3 people in a room.
Shes leaving in 2 days.
Her sisters are fighting about something. There is tension.
I ask whats going on. She explains. I say Im leaving. She says for me to take her number.
I do.
(Could have pushed more)
We go down the steps. I grab her, lift her, her legas wrapped around me. Argessive Wall slam, sloppy kiss, neck sucking times.
then we go outside like noting happened.
They boys are in the car, I jump in.
We ride.
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Her sisters were 6? Your on crack :P, way hotter! Huray for more FR's!
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Two Step

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Very smooth, first FR ive read from you and i like it alot. Very natural. I prefer super direct all the time, but thats just me. I wanna try more indirect stuff, im just not very good at it

Why do you hate phone numbers (other then obvious reasons)
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Two Step wrote:
Very smooth, first FR ive read from you and i like it alot. Very natural. I prefer super direct all the time, but thats just me. I wanna try more indirect stuff, im just not very good at it

Why do you hate phone numbers (other then obvious reasons)

i just made a post in the main section, about why i hate phone numbers. i told mt wings not to let me take numbers.
Go direct on Turbo girls, and see how many of them you get and then we can talk.
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LR: Bank Machine ATM Girl


Went to the bank machine atm at 1 am with my friend to get some pizza.
I open the only girl there. We talk and she is going to a bar "Mad Hatters" down the street.
We offer to walk her there.
On the walk I tell her I have dead babies in the trunk of my car and other rude and absurd things. She is not reacting
We go to the bar for a bit and there is a stripper pole. She starts swinging around.
My Turn. I give her and exciting lap dance.
See below.


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We move her around the place and chat. We talk about Bi-sexuality. I recite of the usual” I don’t judge girls, sexual, im very open minded” etc
She tells me I look nice look, she tell my friend hes nice looking. He says, I know.
I tell her im blushing, and ive never been told that before. She laughs.
I text my friend to give me $20 back, cause I need it for cab far. I think I am pulling this girl.
He slides me the cash.

She wants to go outside and smoke. I harass her for smoking and tell her bad things.
My friend goes and gets her a lighter. Hes falling a little bit into her frame
I tell her she is fit form the gym and grab her ass and bite her neck.
She comes back and sees me talking to some other bartender girls.
She says something jealous.
We all chat and I put a ginger mint in my mouth. She ask what it is, I tell her its from my mom. Shes asked me If she can have a taste of it. I say come and get it. She puts her tong in my mouth and orally retrieves the mint.
I say I want it back. And go get it from her mouth
My friend is staring off into space, just chilling.
She recommends we all go up stairs and dance on the pole again.
But says this time she will take of her shirt if we take of clothes. I agree
We go upstairs, but my friend lags behind.
She swings on the pole. I rub her vergina though her black tights.
My friend says hes leaving. I recommend to my girl that we go eat, “im hungry.”

We get to my place and she complains she is sweaty from the gym, I offer her a shower.
She gets in the shower, I wait about 3 mins and get in the shower.
We are washing each other. Back, chest. Butt. Etc.
We get out, she ask me for clothes.
I give her a Sean Jean oversized shirt.
I should have given her the smallest shit I could find. …Stupid me.
We get in bed. I go caveman. No clothes.
She gives me like a hour of strait resistance. “She says its not happening tonight, she doesn’t do this, not on the first day” etc.
We fuck.
She complains about food so we get dressed in PJ’s and go get food at the bagel store.
Orange juice EXTRA pulp. I am fighting a cold
We come back. She is complaining about food. I make her French fries and play her my music. She sits on my lap listening on headphones.
She draws me a picture of a chipmunk and writes her and my initials in a heart.
In the morning I walk her to the metro.
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 I like the Bank Machine LR. Just goes to show you you can meet a girl at any place and who knows what it's going to turn into. Your skills are on point. Salute!
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ambiguity

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“She says its not happening tonight, she doesn’t do this, not on the first day” etc.
Mr. Mtl Madison wrote:
We fuck.


Women are walking contradictions. Fuck, I love it. I hate LMR. Shit blows. Glad you pulled mate. Had some LMR the other day. It pisses me off cause, some times, no matter what, unless you pin her ass down or roofie her ass, it isn't going down. All the tactics and venue changes in the world make no diff. Sometimes, it just doesn't happen. Glad you pulled again.
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LR: Here Piggy Piggy Piggy – The story of HB Pussycat Doll

The cast for the night: me, natlex, fingerman, and my brother.

We roll to st.laurent street on Monday night. We park the car and drink.
We talk about girl named Jenn G. that my brother and I both hit.
But I am disturbed when I find out that he hit it like 30 times, and me only once.
Both of us with no rubbers. I am disturbed deeply by this.
He wants to talk it out, but I am too disgusted, Fingerman is laughing his ass off.

We head out the car and pass through a park, I look at a lady walking some kind of animal, it looks like an ugly dog. But its not, it’s a pig. And awesome pig. I convince the guys to stop. I want to investigate. I talk to the lady about her pig. I pet it; the pig is aggressive and tries to eat my shoes with its muscular jaws. I find out all about the pig, and how she takes care of it. I decide to take some pictures with the pig because its awesome and I have to share the love. For the rest of the night I am running around telling ladies about this cool pig. Positive mental loops deluxe. P.s. who walks a pig at like 1am?

We head to b-side, and start dancing. Its bare. I notice the hot tall brunette bartender smile at our dancing out of the corner of my eye. I tell the boys to keep dancing. A few seconds after I open her. We chat, I feel its on. i back turn and kino her hand. She keeps it there. Standard bartender game continues. I turn to the guys and say I am going to number close her. A little while later we buy drinks. Fingerman never drinks, he’s kinda buzzed after half a drink. I chat with the bartender, I tell her I came to talk to her cause she likes my dancing. I ask if she has a boyfriend. She says “….um……well…its kinda …..” I cut her off and say “you hesitated that’s good enough.” I tell her we should hang out and go see the movie “Inception”. (it makes sense cause we were talking about how she is a film student before, and I trained in film”. I tell her that Inception is the “feel good movie of the year”. I say she should give me her number. She agrees and disappears and dose NOT write down her number. (Note to newbies: this is classic bartender game. All guys ask for her number, she wants to see how you react when she pulls away all IOI’s. do you keep your cool and have fun, or do you chase her. Never chase a bartender )

Some time goes by and I see her walk to the corner of the bar to the cash. I walk over. “Hi honey” and smile. We chat, and she writes down her number without me asking again. I go back to the boys and party for like 10 more mins before we leave and I say bye.

We head up the street. I see 2 girls with black hair walking. I put my arms around them and chat. They say there lesbians, I say its ok im gay. I take out my cell phone and show her pictures of the pig from tonight. They love the pig. Its on. 3 mins after we get up the street to the front door of the club. I am making out with short black hair girl. Shes not all that. Like a 6. Everybody is standing around in a circle talking. We all go inside the bar/club Corovas. Its SIIIICCCKKK. All the girls look like they came from an American Apparel add. “sexy hipsters” – Jeffy would love it. I am creaming in my pants. The 2 girls go sit on a bench in the club and basically grill me the whole time.

I chat up some hot girls that I have seen before. Fingerman wings, I go outside when they smoke, the girl has a awesome sweater. It looks like a varsity style cardigan. I tell her I love her sweater. I show her mine. I look like a school professor. I have patches on my sweater. I say we look cute together, I show her the pig pictures on my cell phone. I get her number. She says her and her friend will be back. Just then my brother comes and tells me “good job, the other girls got jealous and you made them leave!”
I am like – shit.

I run out the club and chase them down the street “ what, you guys didn’t even say goodbye, im sad” she starts getting upset. I can tell she has low self esteem. I walk with them, my girl is happy again. more making out. Shes grabbing my ass and putting her hands in my shirt. Talking about she wants to take me home. I bring her to her new club and chat her up. We talk logistics, She says her friend is staying with her, I tell her that her friend can sleep on the couch.

For the next 30 mins I am running back and forth between the black hair low self esteem girls, and the club Corovas where my brother and Natlex are. I tell them “I am here for GLORY” I want to upgrade. I read once that Ryan is the type of guy that will loose it all for a chance to get the hotter girl. I have not pulled from a club in a while, and I recognize this is a good opportunity. Because the logistics are good, and the girl is down to fuck. But a part of me feel like I can do better. Im looking at all these stunning woman and my mind wont settle. I could loose it all if I spread my self to thin running back and forth between the 2 clubs… its risky. I could end up with nothing. The other girl is calling me, I go back and dance with her and run off to the other club again.

All the girls at Corovas are cool, but nothing solid. Natlex and my brother want to leave. We all go to the door. Its like 2:30 am… there is nothing left for us here…….then I see her. I saw her before dancing on a couch wilding out like a rock star. A hot short hair brunette, wearing a black dress and a cool hoody, kind of like Nicole Schlesenger in the pusscatdolls video – “don’t cha”. From now one, we will call her HB Pussycat.

She is walking down the stairs…

I tell her I have been looking for her all night and that she has been ignoring my smiles.
She says she is sorry she didn’t notice
I say who are you – she tells me.
I am holding both her hands, looking into her eyes. – she is not letting go.
She tells me she is not looking for anything – wtf?
Just then my brother comes down the stairs and is yelling and blabbering loudly at us, he try to talk to the girl. I tell him to please keep moving. He will shift the focus and blow it.
I go back to her, I get close, hold her hands and talk.
She says she is leaving. Then she says one more dance.
I tell her my friends are leaving. She says one more dance.
At this moment I realize I will have no ride home, I will loose the shortblack hair girl at the other club and this could all go to shit. But my gut tells me to go with HB Pussycat. Something in the way she looked back at me, and held my hand back, and said we should dance. Yup, its on- solid. I ask her if shes into girls. She is like “well…” . I laugh and say “I know…its your vibe.”
We go upstairs and start dancing. We are spinning and dancing close, and talking.
All I remember us saying was that there is a vibe, and that we both feel really comfortable. We clearly have chosen each other. There is just a click and flow. We are chode dancing hand in hand, but because of the vibe, its still sexually charged. She ask if I want to talk at her place. I say “yeah” … like duh.
She says “we are only talking, no sex” I am like yeah “sex is disgusting, its nasty and wet, etc”. We decide we want to cuddle and talk ….really.
we walk out the club. It’s a 5min pull.

We walk down the street hand in hand.
We talk about our what just happened, and how we are on the same wave length.
We stop and get $2 chowmein food.
She says she lives close. We walk and she is calling me “babe”, and feeding me Chinese food. We are splitting up the egg rolls like were together.
We talk about how people should say whats on there minds, and how life is to short.
We talk about our lives.
She tells me she doest want to have sex. I tell her I have fucked girls in 1 day and dated them for a year, the speed is irrelevant, and the vibe is everything -tm
Her street is empty, no cars.
I say “have you ever danced in the middle of the street before” – and grab her.
I spin her and start dancing, I tell her its like a movie. We laugh.
We hold hands in the middle of the street and walk to her house.

Inside I find out we are both super into fashion. We have the same bed.
We have the same music. Etc.
Cool
We talk about growing up and share story’s.
She says she want me, but doesn’t want to have sloppy sex. She did that 3 weeks ago with a random dude. I respect her honesty, and decide not to fuck her. I tell her about my buddy JRAD.
We make plans to take her to dinner. She says she really likes me and wants to get to know me.
Natlex calls on my cell while she is giving me a strip tease.
I hang up, and give her a lapdance
We get undressed and start kissing. And rolling around and talking and kissing more. (Note: up until now she has rejected my 3 try’s to kiss her. In some weird way I almost believe its sometimes better to not kiss. It makes her feel that you are more high value if you don’t try to kiss her if all your other subcommunication is tight. If you are already sex worth its ok to not kiss a girl, because she can tell in other ways your sexworthy. Kissing her sometimes shows your in it for one thing, and puts you in a bad place as every other guy. Sometimes)

Anyways…we turn each other on too much…
And spend the next 2 hours having PASSIONATE sex and getting her roommates so mad they bang on the walls.

Hope to see her again soon. I want to date her for a while
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FR: Why the fuck do all you girls live so far.

Positive mental feedback loops, i got drake on replay on my walkmen, and im drinking coffee and get to choclate bars on the way to the club. im am having my own little party in my head, and no one in invited but me. im gonna smell like coffee in the girls faces. but who cares, its diffrent


Meet up with the boys at st. ambroise.
Mathieu is already locked in with a girl. Side by side in a booth. Abower looks fresh in his new jacket from jack and jones. Looking good kid.
I open a smoking lebanese girl. She is receptive. When I escalate with a marriage roleplay she slides away. There are some cute girls, but the are in seating mixed sets. Not that it is a problem but its like a circle of 6 people sitting. There is absolutely nowhere for me to sit. That kinda sucks. I would have to steal the girls seat. If anyone has a idea around that situation, let me know.

We leave Mathieu, and decide to walk and go to st.laurent street. I see 4 girls get in a car. Its 2am, my brain says that 4 girls in a car at this time are looking for the party. I open them. We chat. The girl in the back seat opens the car door to shake my hand. We chat. I try to get in the car but its not happening. I open the door and they close it laughing. They even turn of the engine to talk to me. But no dice.

We head to Suco. I call my hot married female friend to come and get us outside. Shes drunk and cant hear me. I text her “ don’t be a bitch, come and be a good friend and get me”. She comes outside and hugs a bouncer. I ask the bouncer if I can get a hug, hes all on a power trip like “No”… my girl notices me and starts going crazy and hugging me and kissing me, bouncer turns in shame. Pussy. We go in. She is holding my hand pulling me around the ground floor and vip areas, girls are eye fucking me. Well, I was not really watching them, but im sure they were anyways. Lol. She introduce me to her male clients who are heavy hitting on her, but I don’t care. I have a hat and jacket on in the club. I am the man, any guy who wears a black hat and jacket you either assume works there, or is the fucking man cause they did not make him coat check his shit. Anyways subtle shit.

We go to bar. Post up she gets me a drink. Nice
White speaker. I tell people it looks like a microwave, I get some girls to eat invisible pizza. I open my first girl in the club. Super hot. She give me the weird guy eyes, I plow. She steps away. Im like that’s odd, because I am awesome. Any whoo

I go back to the bar. And There she is. Miss. Tight body, this girls body is so small and tight she looks like she spends all day in the gym. She in a cut of shirts. Skin tight jeans and like 4 inch heals. She is dancing quietly in a corner. I go to her and tell her she has a quiet smile on her face, like she is thinking dirty thoughts. Im such a genious.
We do some basic conversation, I am holding both her hands. She is hiding back. Its semi on. I say im with my friends. She doubts the PUA’s im with are my friends. Girls always tell me that, like there is no way I could be friends with those guys. I introduce the girl to my friends, they make a joke but it doesn't go well, and by mistake they box me out. And a smooth fucking dude comes in a steals my girl. He is chill, more chill then he and my friends. But I decide to wait it out until he blows him self out. I learned that from fingerman. Almost every guy will bow himself out, so I just wait until that’s about to happen. I read the girls face. The guy ejects and I run back in “hi honey, I missed you. I have to tell you a secret, but don’t laugh ok…. I think you real good looking” she is blushing. I go to hold her hands, I show her my silly dance. I kiss her on the check. I apologize for my friends joke. Its on . She goes to order a drink at the bar. I dry hump her from behind. Shes into it. I go on the bar and she grinds on me, I am saying crazy S&A in her ear. Im rubbing her hip bones, massaging her shoulders, and kissing her neck. I ask if she has a man, she says she has a BF and were just dancing. Abower says i should not ask if they have a BF. Just ask if "they are madly in love with anyone now."

She is starting to go local on me. I change subject, this happens a few times. I turn her on more and rub her pussy through her jeans, she is shocked. I tell her im a bad boy and she needs to slap me. She slaps my hand. I say something naughty. Her friends keep watching us, she keeps girl coding them. I bring her to a pole and grind on her, grab her breast. She likes that I want to fuck her. Im sure it makes her feel sexy. I ask where she lives. Longueuil, fucking far. No pulling happening, I get a number and ask about her life. We leave the club and My Blondie Russian hostess friend run up and wont let go. She is drunk she is grabbing me, and kisses me on the lips like 3 times. I am telling her that I will fuck the shit out of her. Etc.

We eject.

5 set on street. I walk by and smile, girl is receptive to smile. I go in , ignore the 2 dudes. I get physical in like 20 seconds. We are hugging. Rubbing backs. Talking about life, I ask her were she is going. She says she in montreal fro a month now. She is going to laval tonight. Super far. Fuck I cant pull her now. I get the number and facebook and continue to give kino like we have known each other forever. Note: its funny but that’s part of my kino, its like we have been together for ever. I call the girl honey. And I hold her had and rub her shoulders like she is my girlfriend for a long time. I get physical supper quick and have really boring conversations theses day… lol. My convo is basic. With the occasionally funny and charming opener or comment


I see a bitchy tall Blondie smiling a cigarette with her friend. I get close and tease her. About her swagger, I imatate the way she smokes, I get in close. We are rubbing each other.its on. Friend calls cab, no time for number. I giver her my card.

Next girl walking down the street. Lots of food. I tell her if I was her husband I would not make her carry all that. She is amused. E cross the street and go to her car. I tease her and tell her she has a boys sports car. She is a stripper at a well knows strips club. We talk about her being bi sexual. She opens the door to her car and I sit on the curb. She lives fucking far with her bother in the opposite direction. I get her number and say I might see her at work, but im not gonna be a customer. She recommend we get together outside work on Monday. I agree.

I leave ad text all my numbers. We drive Abower home….fucking far.
I get some Tim Horton's for breakfast and write this


P.S. - I GOT 2 ASIANS THIS WEEK. THAT USED TO BE A SP OF MINE. I WOULD FEEL FUCKED UP INSIDE CAUSE THEY HAVE NO FACAL REACTIONS SO I COULD NOT JUDGE THERE STATES. NOW IM A LITTLE BETTER INSIDE. I GOT A DATE TOMORROW AFTERNOON. SUPER HOT. 
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