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Word man 100% agreed. I feel like this is a major sticking point/not yet realized epiphany for so many guys in the community. Everyone should take what was said here into some serious consideration.
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You decide what it contains.
The lay reports and analysis of my nights out in Denver:
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/102567?page=40#comment-879488
You decide what it contains.
The lay reports and analysis of my nights out in Denver:
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/102567?page=40#comment-879488
I agree with you. Isn't that one of RSDnation's approach? Make yourself mysterious as Batman!!
I saw the power of keeping silent, and nodding here and then, and a 1or2 jokes with the masculine ''ahh ok or uhh-huhh'' . Basically, when you don't divulge yourself at one go, and you keep girls guessing, this adds to the mysterious image you want to project, thus she INVESTS more into you. However, how do you keep the conversation going? Interesting? Do you limit your passionating&hypnotizing stories? I know for a fact, that once she's comfortable with you, she'll be talking more to you: Qualifying herself to you. But how do you let her know you are interested while keeping a subtle conversation.Doesn't that kill the attraction? She start to think that am not interested. However, being too talkative too will kill attraction especially if you do the chode-interview conversation.
Enuff said. The Power of Silence.
Optimus Prime.
I saw the power of keeping silent, and nodding here and then, and a 1or2 jokes with the masculine ''ahh ok or uhh-huhh'' . Basically, when you don't divulge yourself at one go, and you keep girls guessing, this adds to the mysterious image you want to project, thus she INVESTS more into you. However, how do you keep the conversation going? Interesting? Do you limit your passionating&hypnotizing stories? I know for a fact, that once she's comfortable with you, she'll be talking more to you: Qualifying herself to you. But how do you let her know you are interested while keeping a subtle conversation.Doesn't that kill the attraction? She start to think that am not interested. However, being too talkative too will kill attraction especially if you do the chode-interview conversation.
Enuff said. The Power of Silence.
Optimus Prime.
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Redirecting your power towards your desires
Step 1: Become a worthy millionaire.
Step 2: Do something more rewarding and fulfilling
JlaiX: "Nope, its because you SUCK"....LEGEND
"If she looks at you, she wants you to talk to her. If she talks to you, she wants you to make her laugh. If she laughs, she wants you to touch her. If she touches you, she wants you to kiss her. If she kisses you, she wants you to fuck her."
Scottsdale's TRUST THE PROCESS(A MUST READ ARTICLE): http://www.rsdnation.com/node/198244/forum?#comment-771397
Redirecting your power towards your desires
Step 1: Become a worthy millionaire.
Step 2: Do something more rewarding and fulfilling
JlaiX: "Nope, its because you SUCK"....LEGEND
"If she looks at you, she wants you to talk to her. If she talks to you, she wants you to make her laugh. If she laughs, she wants you to touch her. If she touches you, she wants you to kiss her. If she kisses you, she wants you to fuck her."
Scottsdale's TRUST THE PROCESS(A MUST READ ARTICLE): http://www.rsdnation.com/node/198244/forum?#comment-771397
I agree with you. Isn't that one of RSDnation's approach? Make yourself mysterious as Batman!!
I saw the power of keeping silent, and nodding here and then, and a 1or2 jokes with the masculine ''ahh ok or uhh-huhh'' . Basically, when you don't divulge yourself at one go, and you keep girls guessing, this adds to the mysterious image you want to project, thus she INVESTS more into you. However, how do you keep the conversation going? Interesting? Do you limit your passionating&hypnotizing stories? I know for a fact, that once she's comfortable with you, she'll be talking more to you: Qualifying herself to you. But how do you let her know you are interested while keeping a subtle conversation.Doesn't that kill the attraction? She start to think that am not interested. However, being too talkative too will kill attraction especially if you do the chode-interview conversation.
Enuff said. The Power of Silence.
Optimus Prime.
I will use Brad again as a example. This is very hard to communicate in text. but please try to understand this behaviorI saw the power of keeping silent, and nodding here and then, and a 1or2 jokes with the masculine ''ahh ok or uhh-huhh'' . Basically, when you don't divulge yourself at one go, and you keep girls guessing, this adds to the mysterious image you want to project, thus she INVESTS more into you. However, how do you keep the conversation going? Interesting? Do you limit your passionating&hypnotizing stories? I know for a fact, that once she's comfortable with you, she'll be talking more to you: Qualifying herself to you. But how do you let her know you are interested while keeping a subtle conversation.Doesn't that kill the attraction? She start to think that am not interested. However, being too talkative too will kill attraction especially if you do the chode-interview conversation.
Enuff said. The Power of Silence.
Optimus Prime.
-Wooaahhh!
-Hi i Brad
-Who are YOU?
-*tap tap* - yeah, your cute
-SO?
And me personally I would ask a question and i would throw in some
"Uhuuh!"... "Is that right?"
or "Ahhh, I See now"
this is like 30 seconds of conversation. lots of non verbal communication here. keep in mind this is not the report stage. this is more like beginning to middle of the interaction.
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Hehe, I'm having the same revelation as well, the less you do of everything, the better. In fact when I realized this, I just started going out solo cause I don't have to have 'state' or do much of anything. Just some non-sequitur opening is fine 'oye oye oye...u like.....kangaroos ?'---said very very slowly. I love Brad's stuff and use it all the time--making animal noises, random free associations and being physical..let the girl do the talking.
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i 100% agree.
i realize now this is where ive been fucking up.
its kind of liberating truth really.
the trick is to have the kind of coversation where there is no exchange of information, just vibing. ill get back when i have worked out exactly how to do this
from this point onwards, im going Edward Cullen on their asses.
i realize now this is where ive been fucking up.
its kind of liberating truth really.
the trick is to have the kind of coversation where there is no exchange of information, just vibing. ill get back when i have worked out exactly how to do this
from this point onwards, im going Edward Cullen on their asses.
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Mark Twain
There's one PUA guru out there that uses specificaly this type of game to get results. Very powerful stuff
Watch 50 seconds to around 1:50 to get the idea .... yes i am using a Disney cartoon to display pickup :)
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This has always been my style if gaming! I have never had the type of personality to be a big talker, especially if the conversation seems to have no point or does not lead to anyhting specific.....So verbal communication has never been my strongest point.
Sub-communication however is where I own shit. Some of my best night have been where I have simply gave the girl 'the look', to the point where I have had girls approach me later on (when I had forgotten about the girl) by coming up and grinding against me while i've been buying a drink or whatever. Not many words are exchanged from then onwards...... both of us already know where this could end up. Then it's just a matter of leading her until the inevitable happens.
Things that are perceived as being rear (talking in this case) are usually more valued!
Sub-communication however is where I own shit. Some of my best night have been where I have simply gave the girl 'the look', to the point where I have had girls approach me later on (when I had forgotten about the girl) by coming up and grinding against me while i've been buying a drink or whatever. Not many words are exchanged from then onwards...... both of us already know where this could end up. Then it's just a matter of leading her until the inevitable happens.
Things that are perceived as being rear (talking in this case) are usually more valued!
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"It is better to do one's own duty, however defective it may be, than to follow the duty of another, however well one may perform it. He who does his duty as his own nature reveals it, never sins." - Lao Tzu
"Experience without theory is blind, but theory without experience is mere intellectual play." - Kant
Quoting Philosophisistis in my signature makes me look clever, yay!
"That which is done out of love is always beyond good and evil" - Nietzsche
"It is better to do one's own duty, however defective it may be, than to follow the duty of another, however well one may perform it. He who does his duty as his own nature reveals it, never sins." - Lao Tzu
"Experience without theory is blind, but theory without experience is mere intellectual play." - Kant
Quoting Philosophisistis in my signature makes me look clever, yay!
I really have had this in my mind for a long time but I have never verbalized it. I feel it needs to be said.
Less is more
The less I say the better I do. If im talking to a girl and I just nod and smile - that is so much more effective then actively throwing out attraction or funny material or whatever. When I am quiet and revel less about myself it adds M y s t e r y and intrigue. She doesn’t know me, she can imagine the man that she wants me to be. Her fantasy….
In my experience, I could have the best lines, and spill out 10 of them in a row. And the only reaction I could get is a raised eyebrow from the girl. But if I give a strong question with a smirk on my face with some calm nods, throw in some masculine “uh-huh’s” and it s a done deal. This could be cause the girl feels im gaming less, or she feels I have less to prove, or she feels that its ok to let her imagination go. A lot of times a girl will meet a guy, and his talking is what messes it up.
I have a friend. We will call him Mr.F. I remember nights where I roll to a club with Mr.F and he would say stop chasing girls. Mr.F. happens to be very good-looking and is lucky enough to have girls open him. So he doesn’t really understand the idea of starting conversations with people. But one thing that usualy happens by the end of the night is a girl I have talked to or could be a new girl just hovering around the area will say to me “ What’s up with your friend, I don’t think he likes me” or “He’s very mysterious” and so on. The kicker is he did not say or do anything. He just kinda stands there with a frowned eyebrow expression on his face. Picture Brad’s pick-ups where his verbal game is minimal. But anyways, my point is it makes THE GIRL GO INTO HER HEAD and let her imagination go loose.
You cant want what you already have, and you cant want to understand something that you already know.
Pickup is not about the words its about the silence. Let her imagination do the work for you.
My European natural buddyes are very wordy. They are right out there and you can see them coming a mile away. THey got that rock star kinda vibe and you can see the groupies every where. I myself am much more subtle in gaming and I like it. It works for me. I am trying to mixing it up a bit and get some of that rock start entourage kinda vibe going. My fortay is subtle game but, I could improve if I could add both. The whole rock start vibe is bad ass. It would work quite well for teasing, push/pull. With my subtle game, I don't run around trying to out alpha guys at the club or bar. I am not there to provoke bar fights. That shit doesn't get me laid. Too much energy and wasted time. What I love about subtle game is its mostly actions, your kinda stand offish and baiting her into interaction. There is a diff between subtle and doing fuck all of course. Less is more
The less I say the better I do. If im talking to a girl and I just nod and smile - that is so much more effective then actively throwing out attraction or funny material or whatever. When I am quiet and revel less about myself it adds M y s t e r y and intrigue. She doesn’t know me, she can imagine the man that she wants me to be. Her fantasy….
In my experience, I could have the best lines, and spill out 10 of them in a row. And the only reaction I could get is a raised eyebrow from the girl. But if I give a strong question with a smirk on my face with some calm nods, throw in some masculine “uh-huh’s” and it s a done deal. This could be cause the girl feels im gaming less, or she feels I have less to prove, or she feels that its ok to let her imagination go. A lot of times a girl will meet a guy, and his talking is what messes it up.
I have a friend. We will call him Mr.F. I remember nights where I roll to a club with Mr.F and he would say stop chasing girls. Mr.F. happens to be very good-looking and is lucky enough to have girls open him. So he doesn’t really understand the idea of starting conversations with people. But one thing that usualy happens by the end of the night is a girl I have talked to or could be a new girl just hovering around the area will say to me “ What’s up with your friend, I don’t think he likes me” or “He’s very mysterious” and so on. The kicker is he did not say or do anything. He just kinda stands there with a frowned eyebrow expression on his face. Picture Brad’s pick-ups where his verbal game is minimal. But anyways, my point is it makes THE GIRL GO INTO HER HEAD and let her imagination go loose.
You cant want what you already have, and you cant want to understand something that you already know.
Pickup is not about the words its about the silence. Let her imagination do the work for you.
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Jlaix: You are rather cheeky I admit but the self amusing authentic avi makes it impossible to hate!
Tyler:This is ultimately one of the keys to the game -- viewing EVERYTHING AS A JOKE. It's ALL funny.
Tim:`How can I make this fun?
brad:This thread got Ambiguity banned, you can thank me later.
Zack G: Ambiguity is becoming the Howard Roark of RSD!
Alex: "The famous ambiguity!" + "This is what happens when your naturally attractive; cheekyinnit#!
Ambiguity: I don't chase, I replace.
Tyler:This is ultimately one of the keys to the game -- viewing EVERYTHING AS A JOKE. It's ALL funny.
Tim:`How can I make this fun?
brad:This thread got Ambiguity banned, you can thank me later.
Zack G: Ambiguity is becoming the Howard Roark of RSD!
Alex: "The famous ambiguity!" + "This is what happens when your naturally attractive; cheekyinnit#!
Ambiguity: I don't chase, I replace.
I've had a similar epiphany. It's almost like investing less is at times a DHV. That doesn't mean I'm completely silent though, I'll add tidbits here and there. But I notice when I listen and I don't try to add more value to the conversation and just relax, it's like I'm not qualifying, not trying hard to impress, it takes care of all the needy variables that turn women off.
However, the only thing I don't understand is how to pull this off with girls that don't talk much. I have a hard time with shy girls because it's like I'm trying to pry them open with humor or whatnot, and they end up never investing into me. Girls that talk a lot are easier to bang if you just listen to them and chill, but what about girls that are dead silent. Even if you chill with the sexual tension and silence and don't say anything, it just becomes a silent match where no one says anything. Any thoughts?
However, the only thing I don't understand is how to pull this off with girls that don't talk much. I have a hard time with shy girls because it's like I'm trying to pry them open with humor or whatnot, and they end up never investing into me. Girls that talk a lot are easier to bang if you just listen to them and chill, but what about girls that are dead silent. Even if you chill with the sexual tension and silence and don't say anything, it just becomes a silent match where no one says anything. Any thoughts?
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Less is more
The less I say the better I do. If im talking to a girl and I just nod and smile - that is so much more effective then actively throwing out attraction or funny material or whatever. When I am quiet and revel less about myself it adds M y s t e r y and intrigue. She doesn’t know me, she can imagine the man that she wants me to be. Her fantasy….
In my experience, I could have the best lines, and spill out 10 of them in a row. And the only reaction I could get is a raised eyebrow from the girl. But if I give a strong question with a smirk on my face with some calm nods, throw in some masculine “uh-huh’s” and it s a done deal. This could be cause the girl feels im gaming less, or she feels I have less to prove, or she feels that its ok to let her imagination go. A lot of times a girl will meet a guy, and his talking is what messes it up.
I have a friend. We will call him Mr.F. I remember nights where I roll to a club with Mr.F and he would say stop chasing girls. Mr.F. happens to be very good-looking and is lucky enough to have girls open him. So he doesn’t really understand the idea of starting conversations with people. But one thing that usualy happens by the end of the night is a girl I have talked to or could be a new girl just hovering around the area will say to me “ What’s up with your friend, I don’t think he likes me” or “He’s very mysterious” and so on. The kicker is he did not say or do anything. He just kinda stands there with a frowned eyebrow expression on his face. Picture Brad’s pick-ups where his verbal game is minimal. But anyways, my point is it makes THE GIRL GO INTO HER HEAD and let her imagination go loose.
You cant want what you already have, and you cant want to understand something that you already know.
Pickup is not about the words its about the silence. Let her imagination do the work for you.