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Maeeh... I kind of get where you're coming from, and I'm on your side 100% with the lifestyle thing. Developing an enjoyable and cool lifestyle is so much more effective than going straight into learning how to pick up women. A fulfilling lifestyle generates happyiness and charisma, which by itself is very attractive. However, the act of cold approaching is a crucial part in any type of networking environment. Plus, you get to choose your girl, even if no one in your circle knows her.
Moreover; looks, status and what have you - I do think they matter. They will not get you to where you want by themselves, but they will make it easier for you. Also, remember which type of males this community was originally designed to serve. Let me give you a hint, the ones without the mentioned qualities.
I'm good looking, successful, have status, good friends, nice lifestyle, amazing physique. Yet I have never had as much success with women as after a few months with RSD. One big reason for that is because I never cold approached and didn't know how to talk to strangers.
Moreover; looks, status and what have you - I do think they matter. They will not get you to where you want by themselves, but they will make it easier for you. Also, remember which type of males this community was originally designed to serve. Let me give you a hint, the ones without the mentioned qualities.
I'm good looking, successful, have status, good friends, nice lifestyle, amazing physique. Yet I have never had as much success with women as after a few months with RSD. One big reason for that is because I never cold approached and didn't know how to talk to strangers.
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Shit falls into place when you realize how easy it is to get laid. Ok, easy isn't the right word, but more like how much easier it is then when you were a chode and thought that sex with a really hot girl was the pinnicle of existence.
Cold approaching builds your social skills, your social circle, and your life style. Once sex with a hot girl isn't your number one priority, you move on to other, more fulfilling things.
Cold approaching builds your social skills, your social circle, and your life style. Once sex with a hot girl isn't your number one priority, you move on to other, more fulfilling things.
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"Cowards don't deserve women that's just how life works. " - Manwhore
"Oh yeah but to be specific, no you don't learn how to pull and fuck hotties by just chilling out." - Tyler
"Oh yeah but to be specific, no you don't learn how to pull and fuck hotties by just chilling out." - Tyler
Looks matter, as long as you don't have game :P
J/K [and k/j], but if you're not severely damaged-looking and have very good personality traits - The money/looks/status won't really matter for the night (maybe for a relationship the girl would consider dating someone who is not entirely broke, but then again, if you're that charismatic and charming - how come you're that broke?)
Anyway, I don't agree with anything RSD teaches, and definately not with what anything Tolle teaches, but they do have some good ideas and outlooks.
Some of them are maybe too utopian ["when you're in state, nothing bad can happen!", "Ego vs Self-esteem"], but others are very real and tangible ["Whatever price you put on yourself is your price"].
Anyway, don't lose your heads in this stuff.. Set your goals and go - focusing on what you don't have and making excuses isn't gonna help you.
J/K [and k/j], but if you're not severely damaged-looking and have very good personality traits - The money/looks/status won't really matter for the night (maybe for a relationship the girl would consider dating someone who is not entirely broke, but then again, if you're that charismatic and charming - how come you're that broke?)
Anyway, I don't agree with anything RSD teaches, and definately not with what anything Tolle teaches, but they do have some good ideas and outlooks.
Some of them are maybe too utopian ["when you're in state, nothing bad can happen!", "Ego vs Self-esteem"], but others are very real and tangible ["Whatever price you put on yourself is your price"].
Anyway, don't lose your heads in this stuff.. Set your goals and go - focusing on what you don't have and making excuses isn't gonna help you.
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'Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones. I am not afraid.'
-Marcus Aurelius.
'Just Do It.'
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-Mark Twain.
'Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones. I am not afraid.'
-Marcus Aurelius.
'Just Do It.'
-NiKE.
What are you saying dude? Become a DJ just like youuuuu ??? <3
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strong first post. All is well and I don't feel like debating it to hell atm. But what are you going to do if you move some day and start with 0 social circle? Your getting all your " value" from outside sources, which will sooner or later, fail.
I'm trying to get into djing, I have been doing it for a year just can't land gigs where I live ( I play house/ electro). What do you spin, and how did you get your name out there.
I agree with you on the artist, bartender, dj gets a lot of hook ups though. I also produce electro house, and playing girls tunes you made, seems to do something to their brain that just makes them want to bend over. Solid.
I'm trying to get into djing, I have been doing it for a year just can't land gigs where I live ( I play house/ electro). What do you spin, and how did you get your name out there.
I agree with you on the artist, bartender, dj gets a lot of hook ups though. I also produce electro house, and playing girls tunes you made, seems to do something to their brain that just makes them want to bend over. Solid.
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people will rationalize anything...
fuck, most people can't even be FUCKED to take minor bruising to their ego
i tried getting my friend into RSD when he was having trouble with his gf, the dude flipped the fuck out on me, he doesnt speak to me anymore
being a chode is hard, i fucken know, emotinally its draining, you can get shit done physically b/c your letting your emotions get the best of you
thats were the leverage comes in....do you want a big titied chick sucking on your dick or not?
fuck, most people can't even be FUCKED to take minor bruising to their ego
i tried getting my friend into RSD when he was having trouble with his gf, the dude flipped the fuck out on me, he doesnt speak to me anymore
being a chode is hard, i fucken know, emotinally its draining, you can get shit done physically b/c your letting your emotions get the best of you
thats were the leverage comes in....do you want a big titied chick sucking on your dick or not?
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"Girls are predominantly going for guys that are 'hot'. Hot is not good looking, they are different things." -10Pin
"At the end of the day I rather be hated for what I am then loved for what I'm not." -Kanye West
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OP what is your background ? What reference points are you using from your own experience ?
How many times a week you go out ?
How many times have you been laid ?
Have you taken a bootcamp ?
I think it is possible that your reality isn't accustomed to pulling tens but that doesn't mean it doesn't work.
You have to work you're fucking ass off though it aint easy most people can't be arsed.
How many times a week you go out ?
How many times have you been laid ?
Have you taken a bootcamp ?
I think it is possible that your reality isn't accustomed to pulling tens but that doesn't mean it doesn't work.
You have to work you're fucking ass off though it aint easy most people can't be arsed.
Great post man. When you strip away everything from "the game" it all comes down to lifestyle. I've never had much success in bars. I can talk to just about anyone pretty much whenever but closing and succeeding has been a different story. All of my success has pretty much come from social networking and just going around every day being me. Curious though, I've been working out for a long time and have never really ever done any game work inside of a gym. Maybe it's different cuz you're a trainer, but how do you typically approach that area? I'm usually just focused on doing my own thing, but I can't help but notice how many hotties are at gyms, either working or working out. The biggest drawback of course, being that if shit becomes akward you have to see them anytime you're both working out at the same time. I also find athletic girls way more attractive than club/party girls. So how have you used a gym to your advantage?
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Yeh definitely. When Alex and Brad go touring they rely on their lifestyle. It's a well written piece and maybe I got it wrong but you're encouraging growth through external things. It works FOR SURE I get it.
But I think most people here are looking for steady growth as people. And your post begs the question.....how dyou get all those things? And money, success, a social circle come through certain beliefs, attitudes and mindsets and it's the growth of these things that have value rather than the things in themselves.
Props though for coming here and giving value from the off. Scool.
But I think most people here are looking for steady growth as people. And your post begs the question.....how dyou get all those things? And money, success, a social circle come through certain beliefs, attitudes and mindsets and it's the growth of these things that have value rather than the things in themselves.
Props though for coming here and giving value from the off. Scool.
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I can only tell you what has worked for me, what I've done to get good, and how to set up realistic expectations so you don't go beating yourself up for not living to standards that only Vinnie fucking Chase could live up to.
1) Looks matter. Of course they do. If you don't invest a decent amount of time into yourself, the way you dress, your fitness, grooming, etc. then you are stopped from the start.
Fuck anyone who says they don't matter. But don't let it hold you back, be you...and realize that if you are a 5'2 short Asian with greasy skin, you AREN'T going to get 10's. Most guys don't, that's life. Shit you probably won't get 7's at that height UNLESS you have some other factor helping you out, which brings me to my next point.
Most girls want a taller guy. I'm 5'8, and while I'm sure I lose some girls because of it, I don't think it's THAT big of a deal, but I'm not going to bullshit you...
Realize it matters, but it will matter less if you don't care about it.
2) Lifestyle matters. Who gets laid more, a DJ or a really well rounded guy, with impeccable nimbus, who is just like SO SELF ACTUALIZED MAN... who never comes in contact with girls in a socially acceptable way? No one is going to fuck a computer engineer just for being a computer engineer, but many girls will hook up with a DJ, bartender, guy in a band, artist, etc. just because they have a job or hobby that provides them social status.
This isn't cheating, its what 99% of us that are good with women use. I'm a personal trainer and a DJ. Do you think if you took these things away from me I'd be as good with women? NO. My cold approach game is sub par at best.
3) Money is important. It provides you opportunities to throw parties, get on lists, dress and eat well, and peruse hobbies you care about, and travel. You don't need it to do well, but it helps tremendously.
4) Your social life. If you don't have cool friends, aren't friends with girls, socially plugged in people, promoters, DJs, artists, etc.
WTF man? Get involved in your scene, hang out with the "cool kids" and you'll start to develop traits they possess. Don't try to fuck every girl you are friends with. Do you know the difference between me and you?
I roll to the club with a few hot girls and some cool guys. I know people there already from DJing. The staff knows me, I'm on the list, and I'm dressed well.
This gives me confidence to approach girls. Not approaching 10000 girls and creeping them out to the point where I've numbed myself to it.
5) Cold approach is 1 aspect of getting girls. It is not the end all be all. I look at this like sales in a sense. For me I have three aspects of game...
Social circle/life style: These are girls I meet through house parties, through friends, through my social circle, through my hobbies. I'd say that I meet 70% of girls this way.
Online: I'm on POF, OKcupid, Hotornot and a few others. This is like passive income. I put up a funny profile that demonstrates the aforementioned traits and I actually get girls messaging me, sent straight to my phone. It takes me 10-15 minutes a day to mass email out something as well... I probably get 20% of girls this way.
Cold approach: I really prefer the day time, because things are more real and the ratios are higher. I flirt with girls all day and try to get numbers fast. I like to go direct. I probably only get 10% of the girls I talk to during the day, but they are some stunners.
Night time, if you put me in a club where no one knew me, I'd suck. Even still I don't do great. I probably only get about laid from the club once a month, but that's of course going out with the INTENT to cold approach, and not going to places where people know me because I want to work on these skills. I probably only get 1 out of 15 girls in the club off a cold approach.
Do you get what I'm saying here?
STOP putting all your time into cold approach, develop other areas where you can get laid...and put all this shit behind you.