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December 7th, 2016
Think Short-term not Long term!!!!
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JohnG

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I orginally posted that as an answer to Utopia "frustration" thread. Though it may deserve more attention, why i post it as a topic...



The problem I see here is that:

some guys (probably you) in this forum go out in order to get better at getting girls.

As opposed to some other guys(like me) who have much better purposes like :

- going out in order to get laid tonight
- going out because it is so much fun, nearly like a drug..(drinking, having fun, meeting new people etc)


These 2 purposes are good, the other is fucked. I believe it is fucked to go out and picking-up girls trying to get laid in order to reach a long term purpose.
When you go out you should think short term, not long term.

Fun tonight, getting laid tonight. Not thinking "I go out in order to get to a level where I will be able to get laid anytime I want"

This is realy really fucked,because when you will get to that level, then what ? you will stop going out? because you ve reached the level you wanted to reach, your purpose.. hell wtf? now that you can get laid when you go out , you stop going out , But when you were not able to get laid, you were going out. This is fucked up..

(As an example, look at Tyler, when he was a chode, lame at picking up girls, he was going out a lot, probably getting frustrated because not getting laid as much he d like. And now that he is good, he probably cant enjoy it that much (at least the "getting laid" part), since he has a family. )
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YaBoiRayDawg

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oh hello JOHNG TOLLE!

good advice.
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Paris Boum Boum

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Ha ha, this is very interesting. 

I see where that comes from, and in a way I totally agree with you. Thinking long term in field is thinking too much for your own good. And the best way to improve is not by mentally masturbating, it is by fucking new girls. 
However, don't you think there is a place for long term thinking? What do you think of the idea of "getting a skill set related to fucking girls", which is why most of the people are here? 
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Loopin <3

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I totally agree with the OP on this.. The only way to learn to get laid more anyways, is if you go out with the purpose of actually GETTING LAID... Also actually the only way that I can get some schoolwork done in time is if when I get up in the morning I say to myself "I want to get THIS much done today", not if I say "I have to get it ALL done before xyz day"...

One of the main reasons I think that people don't have "inner game" (man I hate that concept, I seriously don't get how people can not have that) is because they don't get what you are writing about here.. IMO..
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besserwisser

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And then on the other hand "outcome dependency" is bad for your success.

I think you need both! A large goal and small steps. Liked your post.
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JohnG

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Paris Boum Boum wrote:

However, don't you think there is a place for long term thinking? What do you think of the idea of "getting a skill set related to fucking girls", which is why most of the people are here? 


This is actually the point of my post. I think this idea is very bad.  I believe that The reason most people are here is bad.

IMO, Wanting to "get a skill set related to fucking girls" is not good. This is a very very bad purpose. don't set up long term goals for pick-up. Maybe you can set up long term goals for your finances, not for pick-up.

For example, when you read some advice on rsdnation, you should think "cool maybe that idea will help me getting laid tonight",  not "cool maybe that idea  will help me in my long term goal to become a guy who is good at  picking up girls".

It is also why I think Inner game talk is bad. It is long term oriented. Pick-up advices  have  to be   short-term oriented.
(Ironically, I just got compared to Tolle, didn't realize that my post was actually a bit inner game-related)
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Koolaid

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I think he means not building an ego around the skillset. Otherwise it's because you wanna look like a big pimp and impress ppl.
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http://www.rsdnation.com/node/138865

Life changing self-esteem article by Tyler
http://www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=12471

Excellent post about practice and consistency by Ozzie. Really hits home.
http://www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=13223

Field report thread.
http://rsdnation.com/node/127554
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Loopin <3

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I have recently made a journal called 5-year-challenge, but I don't really have a specific long term goal.. Every sunday I think about what I want to focus on the next week to improve my life RIGHT NOW. And I am really glad that I am doing it this way so far, my goal is not to have a good life in xyz time, it is for every day to be a blast and an adventure and even better than the one before that day, and I am talking about TODAY right now, NOT tomorrow..
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Brrrrrrrrrr,

good stufff.



"going out to get good with girls"  is validation based mindset, since its a numbers game.  Going out to find a girl to fuck is based on PURPOSE and willpower.
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JohnG spitting that truth!
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