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I'm really wondering this, I think the key is about bringing the most value, and this means not taking shit from anyone. I don't know what your personality is so I don't know which trait you could hone to take yourself to the top of the pyramid. I'm wondering how people who are alpha nice deal with aversive people.
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i know that when you give value from an authentic place and its real people will be drawn into that
but i guess maybe i dont offer value...what type of value could i offer?
they dont NEED me to be in their group...its will benefit me not them
Fuuuuck isnt that wrong though, shouldn't i feel like they would be benefiting more?
I guess that means im seeking approval...lol so confused right now
but i guess maybe i dont offer value...what type of value could i offer?
they dont NEED me to be in their group...its will benefit me not them
Fuuuuck isnt that wrong though, shouldn't i feel like they would be benefiting more?
I guess that means im seeking approval...lol so confused right now
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"If you are taking more action than anyone else why should you care about their opinion?" ~Derek
"People will never remember what you try to teach them, but they'll always remember how you made them feel." - Richard Sauerman
The idea is you are in the wrong scale. You have to say fuck the socially conditioned value scale. And play by the scale of what makes a “real man”. A man that has integrity and knows his self worth. SO THAT WHEN YOU STEP TO THAT GIRL YOU DON’T GET SCARED BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT PLAYING BY HER SOCIAL CONDITIONED VALUE SYSTEM. BUT YOUR OWN INTERNAL VALUE SYSTEM. -Mr. Mtl Madison
"People will never remember what you try to teach them, but they'll always remember how you made them feel." - Richard Sauerman
The idea is you are in the wrong scale. You have to say fuck the socially conditioned value scale. And play by the scale of what makes a “real man”. A man that has integrity and knows his self worth. SO THAT WHEN YOU STEP TO THAT GIRL YOU DON’T GET SCARED BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT PLAYING BY HER SOCIAL CONDITIONED VALUE SYSTEM. BUT YOUR OWN INTERNAL VALUE SYSTEM. -Mr. Mtl Madison
Yeah pretty much, you are seeking approval.
They'd ignore you even tho you shot a 3 <- seeking approval
Give yourself approval, do your own thing, find your own interests... and make friends like that. Don't care about social higharchy, it doesn't really matter. When you have your own thing going on you stop seeking yourself in their reactions. That's the point where you can make friends with almost anyone.
They'd ignore you even tho you shot a 3 <- seeking approval
Give yourself approval, do your own thing, find your own interests... and make friends like that. Don't care about social higharchy, it doesn't really matter. When you have your own thing going on you stop seeking yourself in their reactions. That's the point where you can make friends with almost anyone.
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"Cowards don't deserve women that's just how life works. " - Manwhore
"Oh yeah but to be specific, no you don't learn how to pull and fuck hotties by just chilling out." - Tyler
"Oh yeah but to be specific, no you don't learn how to pull and fuck hotties by just chilling out." - Tyler
Offer value. People want to be around people who give them something they don't have.
You described yourself as being in the "70%" group that wants to be in the "10%" group.
Stop wanting to be people's friend, and start working on what YOU can do to attract the friends you want.
You want to party with hot girls, and hangout with other dudes who have an abundence of women? Congrats, who doesn't??
Work on yourself. Get girls yourself. Throw parties with lots of girls there. Network. Get to know a lot of people. Invite people to events, or host events yourself. Don't be a leech.
^Do things on that level, and eventually you will eventually have the lifestyle you want.
Be "the shit" yourself, instead of looking to make friends with the guys that you think are "the shit" ... and i don't mean that in an over-the-top im better than you kind of the shit... just a cool ass guy who is always at the cool party, knows everyone, and is chill.
You described yourself as being in the "70%" group that wants to be in the "10%" group.
Stop wanting to be people's friend, and start working on what YOU can do to attract the friends you want.
You want to party with hot girls, and hangout with other dudes who have an abundence of women? Congrats, who doesn't??
Work on yourself. Get girls yourself. Throw parties with lots of girls there. Network. Get to know a lot of people. Invite people to events, or host events yourself. Don't be a leech.
^Do things on that level, and eventually you will eventually have the lifestyle you want.
Be "the shit" yourself, instead of looking to make friends with the guys that you think are "the shit" ... and i don't mean that in an over-the-top im better than you kind of the shit... just a cool ass guy who is always at the cool party, knows everyone, and is chill.
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at least in my experience (though I go to a small school), if you become a cool (authentic, sociable) "normal" kid, the hot athlete crowd will be down, easier even, because they are intrigued by someone different, which is value. even before rsd i found these girls easy, partially because they were drunk all the time, but also because i genuinely didn't care about what they thought about me or find their scene cool at all (my reference experiences for understanding the inner game stuff they teach here). it's the hot artsy chicks that really get me going...
I'm really wondering this, I think the key is about bringing the most value, and this means not taking shit from anyone.
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but i do think im a chill guy
i might not offer value alot...i am making the switch to doing so
i dont put myself out there to be honest...i just usually hang around with my comfort zone....
im not trying to be a KJ here....we all start somewhere
i find it kinda weird to be known as a NOT SO COOL by these people for years then all of a sudden act COOL one day
thanks for the advice guys, appreciate it and i guess i got some work to do
i might not offer value alot...i am making the switch to doing so
i dont put myself out there to be honest...i just usually hang around with my comfort zone....
im not trying to be a KJ here....we all start somewhere
i find it kinda weird to be known as a NOT SO COOL by these people for years then all of a sudden act COOL one day
thanks for the advice guys, appreciate it and i guess i got some work to do
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"If you are taking more action than anyone else why should you care about their opinion?" ~Derek
"People will never remember what you try to teach them, but they'll always remember how you made them feel." - Richard Sauerman
The idea is you are in the wrong scale. You have to say fuck the socially conditioned value scale. And play by the scale of what makes a “real man”. A man that has integrity and knows his self worth. SO THAT WHEN YOU STEP TO THAT GIRL YOU DON’T GET SCARED BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT PLAYING BY HER SOCIAL CONDITIONED VALUE SYSTEM. BUT YOUR OWN INTERNAL VALUE SYSTEM. -Mr. Mtl Madison
"People will never remember what you try to teach them, but they'll always remember how you made them feel." - Richard Sauerman
The idea is you are in the wrong scale. You have to say fuck the socially conditioned value scale. And play by the scale of what makes a “real man”. A man that has integrity and knows his self worth. SO THAT WHEN YOU STEP TO THAT GIRL YOU DON’T GET SCARED BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT PLAYING BY HER SOCIAL CONDITIONED VALUE SYSTEM. BUT YOUR OWN INTERNAL VALUE SYSTEM. -Mr. Mtl Madison
Your whole attitude about this will make you fail. Only the fact that you want to be accepted by those people makes it a huge fail in advance.
They would ignore you and now you want to be friends with them?
Well, guess what, if a "high value" person gets ignored he does not give a shit about these persons any more.
They would ignore you and now you want to be friends with them?
Well, guess what, if a "high value" person gets ignored he does not give a shit about these persons any more.
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i know guys who ARE authentic and dont seek approval from the COOL People.....but they still hang out with the nerds and have an ugly girlfirend...
they value they offer isnt something cool kids are interest in....
not ranting here so please keep that in mind....im not trying to 'troll"
they value they offer isnt something cool kids are interest in....
not ranting here so please keep that in mind....im not trying to 'troll"
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"If you are taking more action than anyone else why should you care about their opinion?" ~Derek
"People will never remember what you try to teach them, but they'll always remember how you made them feel." - Richard Sauerman
The idea is you are in the wrong scale. You have to say fuck the socially conditioned value scale. And play by the scale of what makes a “real man”. A man that has integrity and knows his self worth. SO THAT WHEN YOU STEP TO THAT GIRL YOU DON’T GET SCARED BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT PLAYING BY HER SOCIAL CONDITIONED VALUE SYSTEM. BUT YOUR OWN INTERNAL VALUE SYSTEM. -Mr. Mtl Madison
"People will never remember what you try to teach them, but they'll always remember how you made them feel." - Richard Sauerman
The idea is you are in the wrong scale. You have to say fuck the socially conditioned value scale. And play by the scale of what makes a “real man”. A man that has integrity and knows his self worth. SO THAT WHEN YOU STEP TO THAT GIRL YOU DON’T GET SCARED BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT PLAYING BY HER SOCIAL CONDITIONED VALUE SYSTEM. BUT YOUR OWN INTERNAL VALUE SYSTEM. -Mr. Mtl Madison
stop comparing yourself to others.
stop comparing people all together.
there is no "10%" "70%" "20%"
only 100%
everyone is equal.
stop comparing people all together.
there is no "10%" "70%" "20%"
only 100%
everyone is equal.
McMurphy21
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Join Date: 04/11/2010 | Posts: 68
i was always the guy who treated ALL people fairly, my freinds, to the ultimate nerds, to the popular kids, i was always fair etc
but i didnt get this in return...
so me thinking came up with a modern day social pyramind
the top 10% at the very top are the hot girls, school athletes,
the middle where most of the population is - 70% = Normal kids...they will go against their self standards to gain the approval of the top 10% (but failing b/c they are giving away their power)
the bottom 20% - the nerds, goths, anime nerds...etc....socially akward, uncoordinate...introverted
the top 10% was cold to me...i would play basketball with them and they'd ignore me even though i can hit 3's like Kobe
the middle 70% were cool, but insecure....they'll ditch me for ANY chance to get with someone in the "elite" group the top 10%
the bottom 20%....were i've found the most acceptance...are generally very cool people...that lack social skill and are somewhat akward....NO ATTRACTIVE GIRLS there...
How do i get to be chill with the top 10% cuz it be alot easier to get the girls in that group that way....
DONT suggest throw a party at my house...i dont wanna have kids fuck up my house with weed n shit...someone elses house thats cool w/e but i wouldnt bring weed n drugs to my house to gain some approval
example of being ignored by the top 10....i was playing basketball...i miss the shot so i go after the ball....one of the guys gets it...so i gesture for the ball back...respectable attitude....the guy looks at me and gives the ball to his buddie who wasnt near me....
the fuck....
i dont give a shit to be POPULAR or ultra cool by SOCIETY STANDARD, i just want to hang out with cool people....a social circle were hot girls are and cool dudes to chill with...
i dont honestly give a shit bout getting drunk or high.....ive had drinks before but like a beer here and there when I feel like it....i dont care to GET WASTED....
so thats me...
lol advice from dudes who were "THE SHIT" would be helpful
RSD doesnt really talk bout SOCIAL CIRCLES that much
i dont know how many freinds Tyler, Brad, Jeffy etc have and hang out with on a daily basis
so just asking
"People will never remember what you try to teach them, but they'll always remember how you made them feel." - Richard Sauerman
The idea is you are in the wrong scale. You have to say fuck the socially conditioned value scale. And play by the scale of what makes a “real man”. A man that has integrity and knows his self worth. SO THAT WHEN YOU STEP TO THAT GIRL YOU DON’T GET SCARED BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT PLAYING BY HER SOCIAL CONDITIONED VALUE SYSTEM. BUT YOUR OWN INTERNAL VALUE SYSTEM. -Mr. Mtl Madison