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Distant Light "Socialite & Spiritual Monk"
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Distant Light

Distant Light

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Join Date: 08/22/2006 | Posts: 2390



FR: Don't Know What's Wrong

Ok, maybe I do know what is up but I'm just denying it. Last night while writing out notes and listening to music I realized I was having a motherfucking BLAST. What I noted though is that I was in the same exact state of mind that I generally am in when in night venues. It made me question whether I'm actually closed off from people and just unaware of it. During the daytime if you were to give me an awareness test I'd fail because I'm in my own world, joking with myself and not letting in anything.

Anywho, night started off good as I went to meet mix at our old stomping ground. Once in the elevator these 3 attractive aussie chicks instantly open me and things are on BUT I never told them to roll with me. Hung out with mix an told him I'd try to bounce them with me BUT turns out some promoter dude approached them trying to bounce them. I was now hesistant since we know the guy an its the same spot were going too, mix leaves and I stay around not wanting to reapproach.

CHICK REOPENS ME an is qualifying hardcore, its so on all I'm doing is just listening as she talks and talks. She #closes me BUT all this phone fuckups and her friends rushing to bounce with some girl they just met caused her to put in the wrong number. (We kept fucking up about 4x) This girl really wanted to hang an was talking about moving to NY, it was solid BUT number wasn't even put in properly. (This is mainly my fault as I am still very fucking sloppy at all the normal transitions)

Outside an see this 6'2 chick an just roll up, OLD SCHOOL aloof screener almost bored out my ass and just joking with her friend. This was so easy it felt like daygame back in 09, I get her number so she can come out tomorrow. Inside the night venue I was actually VERY CLOSED OFF but I never interpreted it like that. Mix friend wanted me to wing the ugly chick for him SO I danced BUT she felt so disconnected because I was in my own world dancing. This caused some peruvian chick to come up to me and throw herself at me, he guy friend was saying "You can have her if you introduce me to a girl". However, this chick got too drunk later on an I was no longer down for the swirl especially since she was only here for 2 weeks.

After this something changed...
-  Felt like I was subtly clinging to mix BUT I didn't want to hang at table cause it was packed with guys
-  It was crowded all over an it started to annoy me
-  Chicks were looking DEAD AT ME hoping I'd open, I'd just glance and then look elsewhere

At one point some gay dude was trying to subtly pick me up, NOT A FAN. This guy infront of me had a table with tons of tall women but I do nothing. Eventually I'm standing looking onto the dancefloor an dancing every so often in my own little world. The whole time this sexy ass russian is looking dead at me WAITING for me to approach. I just look, smile or laugh like some "ice queen" who won't give someone the time of the day. Eventually I just say everything is gay and I'm going home.

It's hilarious cause I don't really understand what is wrong with me at times. Dude in the cab is interacting with me as if they can tell I'm this fascinating man but generally I am very closed off and don't even know it. Lots of work to be done...
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Distant Light

Distant Light

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FR: Don't Know What's Wrong (2nd Edition)
You can't deny the truth...

Plain and simple, I no longer approach people and I'm so closed off. I'm 100% sure its fear related because I notice in certain states of being I somehow am interacting with someone. It feels as if I'm saying "she's safe" and then my guard goes down, this is highly probable as I tend to interact with mix's friends and the few random chicks I interact with it's as if SHE IS HOOKING ME which then causes me to open up.

Last night was very unproductive...
-  The night is slow, I start having my own fun as usual and some asian chick comes up to me. This chick has an amazing body an were fooling around, I makeout with her, and take her number. The few verbals were spent qualifying an framing that we're all about "fun fun fun", she was DTF but I'm not focused on sex.
-  Tons of women around , I counted mix and I then 12 chicks within a 5ft radius. Mix wanted me to meet the chicks near us and I did BUT I swear it was so gay. Like I SLOWLY started opening up to them when they were full on ready to meet me. 4 of the women specifically were all waiting/hoping I'd chat and continue. However, I never really opened up. (This happened about 3 more times)

Typing this I realize the big problem is ME and ME being closed off because I noticed even with mix's girls at the start I was very closed off. In my mind I thought it was the women BUT like they say in MBT people show a reflection of you and as of late, almost every chick I interact with I assume is abit closed off. However, that is 100% my reflection of me because when I open up I swear 100% of the time in the back of my mind I'm thinking "WTF, wasn't she like standoffish 2secs ago, wtf!?!?"

Umm, no dumbass only thing that changed was you opening up...

Irony is during the day and at night where I almost walked with a chick to her station, the thing that was similar was the fact that I was opened up which is why things were so much fun, fluid, etc. It's almost like a defense mechanism where I just assume people
don't like me or something because I don't really talk to anyone. I do remember in the past I was scared to approach because I was fearful of people coming  in and killing my fun.

On a more positive note the night was unreal in terms of amount of women there. (Ratio around us was 5 to 1) I saw 3 chicks that were perfect for super high end venues.

P.S...I'm slowly cracking down on my bad habits and hopefully will start implementing lots of things in order to grow up and come into my own with all this stuff.
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The Legend of JT

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 You're being too hard on yourself!
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Distant Light

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FR: Don't Know What's Wrong (3rd Edition)
"The Legend Of JT" is right I'm too hard on myself...

It's funny that one moment I'm joking with people saying "I'm cocaine" and then at times I'm thinking I suck with women an that I can't apporach for shit. Honestly, I don't even know what happened I guess I was just more OPEN than usual and that resulted in a decent night. I was suppose to hit the club with CC, her brooklyn friend, lprince, another guy friend, and 2 other tall chicks. (one being gorgeous black chick) The tall girls never showed up an inside it was pretty cool....

CC and I dynamic is hilarious as its still unclear, at one point her friend (BB) is talking to her saying "Wow, I forgot how cool he is" and she starts saying some shit to her about me fooling around with her friend and how she no longer will fool around with me hahaha. I found it hilarious, she ends up meeting this promo guy and taking his #. Meanwhile I'm with mix's two russian chicks who are HOT HOT HOT HOT, my ideal type. Were flriting hard as usual, simulating us making out and just very sexual with each other. Honestly if we hung out with tons of women like them, I'd just close but for now we need to make money so I don't push it.

BB (CCs friend) is loving how I approach chicks, I basically grab there hair an pull them into me hahaha. She's telling CC how I go about approaching chicks and how hot it is. Eventually BB finds a guy an there making out, mix is #closing left and right so I walk around to meet some chicks. I meet a girl from spain who I #close then eventually reopened not knowing it was her and brought her to our table to meet CC. (Which btw, spoke with CC about her friend XS an turns out she did fool around with the chick) Also #closed this other chick but I think she gave me her house phone...

CC wanted to bounce to a high end venue which I decided to take her, we get in no problem and WOW TALL CHICKS GALORE!!!!!! CC doesn't stay too long as she goes to meet the promo dude in hopes of hooking up, meanwhile I had already #closed two chicks. One chick is like 6'3 gorgeous and other is from sweden who is also cute. This venue reeks lifestyle, the owner was there and almost lost his girl to me BUT I realized it was the owner an didn't pounce on his girl when she was smiling at me. (Club owner easily pulled his hot girl, all he did was dj for like 30mins and she stood watching)

During this time I met this hipster like chick who I end up kissing and #closing, she then texted me while I was buying food and I was going to setup text for sex BUT it was abit late and I had food. Also got text from CC she didn't get fucked the dudes kinda fucked up the pull. (She was wondering if she's ugly or something cause she hasn't got pulled by anyone including ME, meanwhile her friend XS might've got fucked by me in only 1 day of knowing me)

Tomor is CC, 2 chicks and I hitting up sunday spot again....

P.S...Still dont' really understand myself because once I entered the high end spot I was WORKING IT non-stop. If only I could do that during the day and night 24/7 I'd already be making tons of money and be able to just focus on having a blast with all these women. I'm 100% sure that I'm not going to fool around with CC again as I like her more when she focuses on meeting guys and just hanging with me. The way we hung out was too "dating" like an it was gay. I somehow knew she wouldn't like the fact that I fooled with her friend and never really fooled with her in that manner.

P.S.S...Its weird how its a struggle to build the basic foundation BUT the general whole I'm competent at. Turns out one of the chicks I met is some chick in Italian Vogue, I fucking love high end spots. I'm 100% sure if I was to roll into those places with my crew I'd end up meeting almost EVERY hottie in those venues. It would be turkery shoot, nowadays starting out I go in cold just randomly approaching. One chick was straight terrified of me BUT for the most part it was the usual shit where chicks just love me. I told CC we will hit that spot every weekend at the end of the night just so I can meet gorgeous women and potentially pull.
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Distant Light

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Experiment #1: One Week
I've always wanted to do this, I'm finally "ready"...

Haven't experimented since back in 09, its time to start learning an ton and changing drastically. Yesterday was a huge success in the sense that it put things in perspective. Started becoming very committed to this process, if I implement this habit then I'll have the processes that fuels my lifestyle running unconsciously.

Yesterday, going to the high end venue (There are three "Mover Shaker" groups) really changed me in the sense that this is the life I want. Watching the club owner an playing in my head his average saturday night of "Dining out at his restuarant with his social network, hanging out at his high end venue meeting new people, djing for abit and then heading off home to his million dollar home. All the while having a chick he likes rolling with him and naturally just taking her home.

Most of these non-community guy's are the ones who gave me ideas about implementing everything together. I love fine dining experiences, I love high end parties, I love gorgeous women, I love acting/film and I love NYC luxury living. Just cleaned out my contacts an started regrouping and reorganizing. It turns out in less than a week, I met EIGHT highly attractive women despite all my bad habits. When I say highly attractive I'm talking about 5'7+ chicks.

The Experiment
It's to go through the motions of constantly meeting women who fit "the brand" and getting their number to bring them out. At this point, I know I can have intense fun and that I can pull. There is no need for me to try an prove that to myself anymore nor care about it. If I wasn't thinking long term I'd just hookup with mix's russian chicks who are FUCKING GORGEOUS. (One is damn near 6'2 with strong eastern european features)

I'm focused on the process of using "Cold Approach" as a scouting tool to specifically meet the women I want to meet. My contact group looks something like this...
- Special Forces: 5'7+ chicks who are gorgeous and come closest to my ideal type
- Tall Women: 5'7+ attractive women
- Euro Division: The attractive "Ice Queens" and energetic go-go dancer like girls
- Unique Division: The select few women who for some reason I find attractive whether it's feminine energy, exotic look, scenster style, stacked (breast) or thick (hips/ass/thighs)

Basically I'm just going to let the whole experiment just run for a week as I want to see if going out 10hrs a day meeting people is profitable and how efficient it will be if I approach women who fit the brand non-stop. I wanna see how significant would my social netwrok grow from a week ago. (Money 1st, lifestyle 2nd, sex 3rd)

The thing is I have TONS of access/connects/perks its just I don't have much of a social circle anymore to really leverage it all within my lifestyle. For example, tonight I'll bet at 2 different night spots, monday I'll be at a hot monday party, tuesday 200k guy is hosting comped dinners at top chef contestant resturant and then bouncing to a rooftop bar, wednesday CC has access to some of the hottest venues cause she knows hosts/promoters and then thurs/fri/sat I rolling with mix.

What really motivated me is seeing the quality in the high end venue which pays out real well. Mix's hong kong model and russians would be some of the hottest chicks there SO if we knew tons of hot women we could just be in those venues meeting ALL the hot women and just selecting who we want while enjoying or life. (Of course I personally want to bounce chicks to strip clubs, after parties, my place when I get one, etc just to continue the adventures)

After this week, which I won't judge or anaylze until the week is over, I'll see how profitable this is and if I should continue doing it. As of right now based on the amount of women I met in about an hour of being in the high end venue I can say it just might be very profitable. Like that I met some chick who's been in italian vogue and there were many who looked similar to her and others who were more or less as attractive.

Will see what happens...

P.S...It just so happens that not only am I highly attracted to tall women BUT those type of women allow me to roll ALMOST anywhere I want. Technically I could just hang around tall women but I like many different europeans too regardless of height. Then the one off chicks who either has a certain style/look or an amazing body which other women tend to ALWAYS be all over their body. (Did I mention I like bi-sexual women?) Women love tits and ass too, all other chicks despite being cute don't really fit my lifestyle AND the vast amount of women I'll meet/know/fuck anyway, I don't need to even bother.
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Distant Light

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On bus...

Need to either go hard 24/7 or not at all...Wish I had a place to just have all the chicks meet up with me so we can pre game. The chicks are down for tonight but plans aren't solid as the two connections (has access to free drinks and a table). Haven't go back to me. We can go anywhere tonight but I can't buy drinks so will all be dead sober unless they buy themselves drinks...

Will see what happens...
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yorro

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Distant Light wrote:
The thing is I have TONS of access/connects/perks its just I don't have much of a social circle anymore to really leverage it all within my lifestyle. For example, tonight I'll bet at 2 different night spots, monday I'll be at a hot monday party, tuesday 200k guy is hosting comped dinners at top chef contestant resturant and then bouncing to a rooftop bar, wednesday CC has access to some of the hottest venues cause she knows hosts/promoters and then thurs/fri/sat I rolling with mix.
got two questions.
1. how you make these high end connections?
2. do you work/study/workout? seems like everyday you have all the time in the world. share the secret
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Distant Light

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FR: Don't Know What's Wrong (4th Edition: BONUS!!! Approach On Video!!!)
It's confusing, the commute and cold weather is killing my morale but I still continue on...

Took forever to get out in the city so I couldn't even start the whole experiment. Things wasn't looking good as none of my contacts were hitting me up and then all of a sudden I'm getting texts from them. The plan was to meet with 3 chicks take them to one high end spot and then bounce to another high end spot.

The lack of tools SUCK, I spent about 2hrs walking around in the fucking cold because I had to wait around for the transition of day to night. If I had an apartment I'd have told the girl's to just meet at my place and chill for the 2 hours before 12pm hits. This is when I started to notice how much of a handicap I work with and still do pretty good...

FIRST, ratio of women is incredible, I'm seeing all sorts of attractive women. The guy I was with had about 30 girls, and the 3 other tables near us all had about 15-20 girls each. There was some white chick with an increible ass and a blond west coast-like chick who was wearing a corset tits poking out. EVERY chick including CC was in awe of her breast.

SECOND, promo guy who knows all the models I know shows up and turns out one of the guy's he works with is the guy CC has a crush on. These guy's always have gorgeous chicks with them, the basketball players AND rapper-like dudes can't touch these guy's at all. They even took CC from me as we walked by her crush just wisked her into the table and introduced her to all the girls.

THIRD, Black naturals from normal black guy to basketball player was taking all the HOTTIES. Ok, it was the normal black dudes who had the only 2 gorgeous tall 6'1 slim chicks. Some basketball player chilled at the bathroom hallway and pulled this 6ft thick german chick who I wouldn't fuck because she's basically chubby BUT he pulled her easily. Also another black dude who I know through mix is cold approaching like crazy and probably fooled around with 2-3 chicks.

FOURTH, it's like everyone here is a fucking natural as I watched one guy get approached by some chick where he danced with her, then another chick walking by just grabs him making out and the whole time he's with some other chick who I'm assuming is his female friend. Tons of guy's are making out with chicks and its reached a point where these clubs are simply just one big playground for hooking up.

I won't lie I lost steam after meeting a chick from beligum, then some black chick, and then a shitload of medicore chicks. The other two chicks I brought, I think their junkies as they seem abit slow/high. I have no clue where they went. I did meet one of the 2 gorgeous chicks BUT that didn't last long, I honestly don't know if it was me who ejected or she just was abit standoffish due to how I came up to her. However, that few seconds she did chill out BUT I already kept it moving. There were a few other cuties who I met old school style by grabbing them and talking in their ear. Overall, the night was nothing but full of questions...

I sat in the train station alone with food and redbull just evaluating what I've become. Things are still abit scattered an the only stabilization is to seriously crackdown an start implementing shit to grow out of this limiting shaky reality that I live in. I should be back to non-chalantly just meeting hotties left and right. Although it happened on saturday, it needs to be consistent again similar to how I met 8 hotties back in 09 within less than a week.

Honestly, I know I'm still closed off I can see it in my whole demeanor its as if no one is actually there around me. CC was feeling very disconnected as I was standing around just observing and she was seductively moving infront of me, it was as if she wasn't there. A few chicks were doing something similar BUT it's like I'm interacting with myself as opposed to others.

P.S...Just spoke to parents as I was joking about the night and CC. Turns out mother is spinning me off like the douche asshole "commitment phobia" dude because apparently I am unaware as to how attracted CC was to me. Turns out supposedly during thanksgiving (day me and her should've had sex) she was saying "I like him, but he won't date at all". It is what it is though, I love how I live and what the future holds. This might explain her influx of meeting many new guys as its exactly what she see's me doing.

BONUS: Infield Footage
While waiting for my second train I happen to record since I was the only person on the platform and was subtly cracking on myself in a "Look I'm lame, here on a sunday chillin with the rats". That is how I ended up recording rats and subway....

As you can see based on the footage I didn't plan any of this, it all just sorta fell into place while the camera was recording. The reason it's two parts is because I was scared the battery would die an so I stopped and started it again instantly. However, the battery died on second video...

Basically, this is a normal random interaction, its exactly how I always am and as you can see it wasn't really much of anything. In the end I #closed, I mainly did this because I think mix would like the little cute one. Turns out they were here for 2 months and will be back in may. Also take note as I always say most of my interactions last an average of 5mins and nothing serious is really spoken, just abunch of BS fun. If you notice many times I rarely speak about me an just go back to screening.

NOTE: I was very hesistant to post this because I mistakenly ended up on camera, as you'll notice I instantly get up after giving the chick the camera. Also I kinda wish I didn't say my fucking name, I don't fear the fact that a face is put to the handle. I just don't want to be out an random people coming up to me on some "Game Community" type of angle. I've had a few community guy's see me an start asking if I'd wing or go approach with them when I like how I am, just partying hard meeting people as a result of having fun. Sorta like one of our newest members of the crew, he didn't even know I was community because first night he came out with us I met some dude, hungout at his table and just met chicks while having fun.

P.S...I'm dead sober, thats exactly how I interact with everyone nothing but abunch of bs energetic back and forth. I'm always smiling/laughing at everything its almost ridiculous BUT I enjoy being that way. Just started noticing my aloof/casual demeanor is what makes my overall energetic/animated way of being sexy as fuck.






Since mofos now have video of my face I might as well put up the first and only candid shots of me truly having fun, I had left the camera rolling while partying because I can NEVER record during the hype moments due to me generally always being apart of those moments. (I wanted to see what it would look like if I just let it record) For instance last friday was a ZOO like incredibly energetic BUT I only have footage of me not doing anything. (You can tell when I am forcing myself to record cause I try not to make noise haha) I forgot how old this footage is probably 3-4 weeks ago...



P.S...Witness gay ass voice in all its glory, fuck...

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yorro wrote:

got two questions.
1. how you make these high end connections?
2. do you work/study/workout? seems like everyday you have all the time in the world. share the secret




1. Many of my connections came from mix and the guy he works with. Generally, everywhere I go I always chat to the doormen and inside the promoters/hosts see me so much that I eventually say "hi". Many people know me for partying hard and at times I tend to always be partying hard with women. These natural dudes all love women so when they see a guy who is good with women they easily align with them. Also I might add, from the book "Never Eat Alone" by Keith Ferrazzi he spoke about researching the people you need to meet in your industry, I did that so I have a general idea of who's who. (That's how I knew yesterday the club owners girl was looking at me)

In super high end spots I meet lots of guy's just due to the fact that I meet women at different tables. If I don't meet guy's through girls its generally through me partying hard because in that moment I'll party it up with whoever is in that state of mind at that moment. This is how I end up at times meeting gay dudes because its rare to see a straight dude party so hard UNLESS he's some european dude. That explains why I know more european guys than say the basketball players or rapper-like dudes who don't do shit. Every man has a certain commonality off the fact that we all like interacting with women so pulling together also builds a bond.

2. Used to be in acting school back in 08 but always wanted to work in the nightlife business ever since I was underage. I guess you can say my work now would be cold approaching women to add to my social network. I have all the time in the world because my parents sorta fucked me over in acting school SO they kind of support me in whatever I do. (For awhile I used to make jokes about them killing my whole acting drive) So right now parents support me, I hate it so I don't really ask for much and thankfully I have access to free food and drinks at times SO the costs aren't that high for me. Overall in order to live how I want to live, I need to really bust my ass, those who have gone before me didn't just magically say "Ima buy a 458 spider ferrari" it took lots of work.

Right now, I'm out in freezing cold at times walking 2miles just to get to the train station. I was joking with a friend from acting school saying people will see my life years from now thinking its all cool not realizing how much fucking work I put in. I'm soon going to be putting in 10+ hrs a day socializing and even more hrs just simply planning. The club owners an nightlife gurus I know have 20+ hr shifts its no joke at those levels BUT I enjoy the whole nightlife scene from the partying to the fine dine experiences. Overall the hospitality an bond of shared experiences is what constantly has me coming back to learn to produce a consistency experience.

Hope that helps put things in perspective...
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 lolz i saw some black hands, i dont know why but i always pictures you as white i dont know why.

ps; your voice makes me hard.
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Lovebelow: It's hilarious, most used to assume I was white unless you've heard me mention that I used to live in one of the worst neighborhoods in new york. As for my voice, ugh...

Mix: Hahaha, I don't even know how my body language was I was too focused on my tonality making sure I was breaking rapport. Maybe I should take vocal coaching to make things auto correct. :) On a serious note, that little chick has no clue who she will be meeting in the coming months. Turns out there leaving this tuesday and will be back may. Guess your asian magnet is rubbing off on me ;)

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"Laziness or fear of incompetence on this issue produces high risk results and dramatically reduces the possibility of significant gain or progress."

-  My Big Toe

This whole uncertainty BS is killing me inside which after remembering that part of MBT makes me remember I need to grow as stability only lies in growth. I'm getting high risk results as I head out right now at 11pm not even knowing if the chicks will show up since they haven't responded. It's already shit weather an I'm heading out FUCK. If I just met tons of women no specific chick would be on my mind. Operation Crackdown...

Update...On kinda annoyed with chick making plan then going cold...My assumptions are always bizzare but she's probably with this promoter dude. I solo, also kinda tired of this uncertainty bs just need to do what's needed to proactively end this situation as a common experience. Did I mention its raining an I taking this long ass ride to city on a Monday , yea not all glitz and glam haha.
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