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July 22nd, 2017
The Realities of Vocal Projection & Tonality
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Zabka

Zabka

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Join Date: 10/15/2007 | Posts: 190

So dude, I rolled up on this two set. My vocal tonality was totally $ and tight. (I put plenty of bass in my voice.) And the girls were totally loving me. VOCAL TONALITY IS KEY!

You hear this a lot. It’s nonsense.

I don’t consider myself an expert in the field of vocal tonality, but I do have the follwing qualifications:

- I’ve worked at signal processing company that specialized in music.
- I’ve sung/played in cover bands.
- I’ve taken vocal lessons from people who know what they are talking about.
- I’ve taken speech classes (which are worthless for improving your voice)
- Done various stage performance classes

So here we go:

Your voice had two main characteristics: timbre and pitch. The two are interdependant. The “pitch” refers to the frequency of your voice—like when you sing an A note at 440Hz. In reality though, the human voice produces a lot of other frequencies. It’s that distribution of other frequencies—the timbre—that give your voice a certain character.

Listen to interviews with Johnny Cash vs. Jim Morrison. They both have voices with a strong emphasis on low frequencies. Yet Johnny Cash sounds “deep” voice while Jim Morrison sounds “soft.” That results from different timbres.

Long story short, there is no practical way to change either the timbre or pitch of your voice. That’s the reality of it.

Sorry.

You may consciously change them for a moment. For example, try speaking in a stereotypical Irish or Italian accent. Notice how your voice gets higher with a different timbre? In reality, you’re not changing your voice as much as you are the accentuation of certain vowel sounds.

Yet guys will claim they consciously made their voice lower without hormonal or extensive speech therapy—“Dude, just speak from your diaphram!!”

It doesn’t work that way. There are two things that will lower your voice: puberty and age. In fact, many guys experience a "second puberty" in their early to mid-twenties. A good voice coach can testify to this phenomena.  Sometimes a second puberty manifests itself in the form of a more body hair, or growing a foot like Dennis Rodman in college, or a bigger Adam’s apple, or *surprise* getting a lower voice.

Here’s a great video to watch. (Note to moderators: I’m in no way advocating David D. products. His products typically suck and are marketed to nerds. RSD, particularly the newer stuff, is the best stuff on the market. Just posting this as an example of different voices that people can identify with.)



You’ll notice the progression. David D. has the lowest voice. Craig has a slightly higher voice. And then Tyler has the highest voice of the three.

And take a wild guess on which one would be easiest to hear in a nightclub—Tyler’s.

Between the music and background noise, it is easier to hear higher male voices in clubs. Most guys who “speak quietly” tend to have lower-pitch voices. Most guys who roll up with a “booming voice” tend to have higher-pitch voices. Their voices tend to be isolated in a band of frequencies with little outside noise. Hence, their voices cut across a room or boom.

I have a low voice. It can be hard to hear at time. But doesn’t affect my results. I’ll go into things you can do to cope with it later.

Which brings us to this…

Tonality is the least important aspect of your voice.

Going by my results and roughly a decade of observations, a girl’s perception of your voice is based primarily on:

40% -- Your Inner State
40% -- You Facial Expression/Mannerisms/Vibe
15% -- Content what you’re saying
5% -- Tonality of your voice

Yeeuup…If you listen to PUA’s, then you would think tonality is the most important thing. But it ain’t. Check this out: every PUA who consciously tries sounds “alpha” ends up sounding like Lumberger:



When....you...consciously…slow….down….your…speaking…it…makes…you…sound…boring....

Yeahhhhh…..

Trying to consciously change the way you talk won’t work. More importantly, it will be just one more thing swirling around in your head when your set. The only exercise I’ve found that’s good for warming up my voice is the motorboat. 

No shit.




When my vocal teacher taught me that, it was hard not to laugh. But it works. It clears any junk off your vocal chords.

Long story short: there are no boring voices, only boring speakers. Some guys would have to win the lottery to act excited and show facial expression. Some guys just have to hear their favorite song. Guess which guys get laid more.

Stand-up comedians are great examples to watch. They may not have the best “tonality” but everything else is spot-on: inner-state, mannerisms, and content. Especially the mannerisms.

Anyway…

For guys with lower-pitch voices, there a few coping techniques:
- Get in-state quickly. Your voice is hard to hear, so you have to do your warm-ups quickly. Once you’re in-state, you’ll be good enough.
- Don’t drink cold drinks. Order mixed drinks without ice. Cold drinks will fuck up your voice.
- Don’t smoke. It will kill your voice quickly. A scratchy deep voice is inaudible.
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Gseus

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When I'm anxious (aka "not in state"), my voice will be much higher than when I feel confident and chill. Chode seeking raport vs., well, masculine normal voice. That's all I can say about this.
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Reprobate

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 Great article! Really interesting. I've studied voice myself though i don't think as extensively as you have.  I think the thing about when they talk about your vocal tonality is more about inflection.  The rosetta stone model of TR NR BR seems an inflection rather then a projection model and when they talk about voice tone they really mean this.  It's just a linguistics problem.  Back when your mom used to tell you to 'not take that tone with her' she wasn't referring to pitch or depth of your voice but the insolent inflection you used when you told her off.
Lot's of great info there in your post
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Jackson.

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I still find my self sometimes talking in TR mode, have to conciously make the switch, haha.

I've found tonality to be important personally. TR is never helpful.
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killacam09

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I cant believe David D can actually pull consistenly?  He is totally charisma-less and pretty boring to listen to.

I dont GET IT.
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iiSwoosh

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For me its different.  I tend to subconciously become more confient when I start talking in a deeper voice whcih leads me to lead better...i guess i'm weird like that haha but works for me and also keeps my mind empty.
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plato

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Join Date: 12/01/2007 | Posts: 58

Zabka, are you talking about the tone of voice, or how you say things....

I mean are you saying that saying things in a ''breaking rapport'' tonality doesn't matter compared to a "seeking for rapport" type of tonality?

When I open with breaking rapport is a lot more effective so I'm not exactly sure what you mean here.
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MorningWood

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Join Date: 08/20/2009 | Posts: 139

"For guys with lower-pitch voices, there a few coping techniques:
- Get in-state quickly. Your voice is hard to hear, so you have to do your warm-ups quickly. Once you’re in-state, you’ll be good enough.
- Don’t drink cold drinks. Order mixed drinks without ice. Cold drinks will fuck up your voice.
- Don’t smoke. It will kill your voice quickly. A scratchy deep voice is inaudible. "

This is truth.

I have a deep, raspy sounding voice, and I find when Im excited and happy, I talk a lot louder and quicker, and people are more receptive. When Im feeling like shit, I speak lower and tend to have a monotone voice and nobody really pays attention to what I say.

Acting classes could probably help with this, to bring out your emotional and excited side. But this should only be for guys with deep voices and are masculine as fuck. Guys with higher voices would end up coming off even more gay. lol
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#9

Greg™

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Join Date: 11/13/2007 | Posts: 794

 I respectfully disagree.

Vocal tonality is key. Certainly not the only thing you need but it is KEY. I feel frustrated that I even need to qualify that kind of statement.
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Falsetto

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 Hmm I don't know. Sometimes I get this very deep and strong resonating voice and it feels powerfull and masculine as fuck and I don't have to force anything. But usually my voice sucks and it feels like something in my throat is blocking it. I've always been a very loud talker tough. I can get that resonating voice for a few seconds by humming but It goes away pretty quick.
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