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June 19th, 2013
Biggest fear stopping me...getting my ass kicked!
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Imagination

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Join Date: 10/06/2007 | Posts: 515

Ok, rejection i don't give a fuck about....... humiliation, not arsed.  The only thing stopping me right now is getting my ass kicked my some chav and all his chav mates when i'm too drunk to defend myself.

This is the number one thing that is halting my game.  I have heard it before from all the "gurus" that they have never had a single experience when this has happened, but it has happened to me and almost every one of my friends or anyone else i know for that matter on one occasion or another... and by no means are any of us acting like total dick heads that deserve it.  There is always at least one angry cock that has to start something with nothing to lose.

Maybe it's just the area i am from (withing the uk) but anywhere else I have been has been around the same boat if not worse.  I can see when i go out that some people actually look like they have only gone out for the night to start a fight and just need any excuse.  I myself am totally none violent when out for the night, especially when drinking, more loved up with everyone i meet than anything so i can't understand these people.

From personal experience, if you run round the club all high energy in "state" chatting to every single girl withing a 5 metre radius your going to get your ass handed to you befroe 2am comes around.

How do I get past this barrier?
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Arngrim

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First, take up some kind of legitimate combat sport...within 6 months you'll be at least more confident, within 2 years you'll be able to handle any given drunk jerk.  It has to be REAL though, no Kung Fu or Tai Chi.  Boxing, Muay Thai, or my personal favorite Jiu Jitsu would be my recommendations.  Also knowing that you can handle a fight will make you much, much less likely to end up in one...people can smell fear too, it's not just dogs :)

Second, uh, don't get wasted?  Getting drunk is really a stupid thing to do on a regular basis.  I rarely have more than one drink on a given night, and on the few occasions I'll get tipsy it's just hanging with some close friends, not out at a bar/club.  I mean your personal choices are yours, but if getting drunk leads to getting beat up, seems like less drinking would be in your best interest.
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Bzzza7

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improvingame wrote:

Arngrim wrote:
First, take up some kind of legitimate combat sport...within 6 months you'll be at least more confident, within 2 years you'll be able to handle any given drunk jerk.  It has to be REAL though, no Kung Fu or Tai Chi.  Boxing, Muay Thai, or my personal favorite Jiu Jitsu would be my recommendations.  Also knowing that you can handle a fight will make you much, much less likely to end up in one...people can smell fear too, it's not just dogs :)

Second, uh, don't get wasted?  Getting drunk is really a stupid thing to do on a regular basis.  I rarely have more than one drink on a given night, and on the few occasions I'll get tipsy it's just hanging with some close friends, not out at a bar/club.  I mean your personal choices are yours, but if getting drunk leads to getting beat up, seems like less drinking would be in your best interest.
I believe this is the wrong frame to come from.

Also, you can be dealing with people with guns/knives.

teeth rofl
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Storm

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Arngrim wrote:
First, take up some kind of legitimate combat sport...within 6 months you'll be at least more confident, within 2 years you'll be able to handle any given drunk jerk.  It has to be REAL though, no Kung Fu or Tai Chi.  Boxing, Muay Thai, or my personal favorite Jiu Jitsu would be my recommendations.  Also knowing that you can handle a fight will make you much, much less likely to end up in one...people can smell fear too, it's not just dogs :)

I agree completely with the above. I used to go out with a MASSIVE fear that I'd get assaulted, its happened to me once before. I undertook a martial arts called Arakan (burmese based, only taught in Queensland, Australia). In terms of style its very similar to MMA. I havent undertaken any other martial arts etc, but I imagine theyd follow the same following principles: You learn how to hit a person effectively so you can get away safely. You learn how to protect yourself from punches / kicks etc (most drunk guys at bars only hook punch). You condition your body to be able to take pain, so if you get a hit to the head, you can keep going, similar to how boxers are conditioned. I'm at the stage of my life now where I know that I can half-defend myself if I need to, which is probably better than a lot of drunk guys in bars anyway.

As a man, you need to be the protector. This isnt just about protecting yourself. Lets say you get a girlfriend and you two are taking a romantic walk. Some weird drunk guy tries assaulting /raping her etc. How are you going to defend her? This was my justification for undertaking martial arts.
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thatkyle

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Drink less, smile more, don't bother guys that you don't want to fuck with and don't talk to girls who have protective guy friends. 
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besserwisser

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You have to look dangerous and people will not fuck with you. BUT the other point is you have to respect other people.

You can get away witha lot of shit actually...
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Distant Light

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I'm sorry but this is pussy shit, this shit is like fearing terrorist attacks, only person affected is you mentally fearing it NO ONE ELSE...

ACCEPT DEATH - How can you enjoy all aspects of life if your sitting around fabricating different fears in your mind to limit your life experiences. If you DIE, then you die. Why aren't you scared that you'll get a random heart attack at any moment?

Ask anybody from NY who's hung out with me, I've never got into any confrontations besides TWO. First one ended in me condescendingly hi fiving a guy who had a bottle in his hand wanting to smash me over the head and second one I elbowed some guy in the face by mistake which we then became best friends for the night.

I've went into groups that had UFC Fighter look-alikes, 6'6 black bouncer look-alikes, Russian Mafia demeanor dudes, straight from the hood gangstas, etc, etc. An you know what sometimes happens "Hey, your a cool dude have a drink", "It's cool man, you can go for her", "Please man, thats my girlfriend". The overall thing I'm trying to put across is the energy I project. The BEST interactions have been me in a group of guys and girls.

I'm just having fun socialzing with people I could give two fucks about fighting or even fucking there chicks, so longs I'm going around creating experiences and having many memorable experiences, if I DIE, get LAID, or go SLEEP I'm cool without.

Seriously being the way I am now I can't understand how people use the FEAR OF DEATH as an excuse to not fully enjoy this lifetime...

P.S...The one and only time I was drunk my boys said I had grabbed some chick off her BF in the street and was 5secs away from making out. When my boy turned around he seen me holding the chick while the BF looked shocked, luckily my friend started yelling to me and came to drag me away.

P.S.S...The fearlessness also might play an effect because I don't hold back how I project myself so generally people are in a "Just leave him alone and let him do whatever he wants to do". In my mind so longs I'm going down the path I want to go down, if I die as a result it's still a success because I was walking down that path. Technically everyone will die on there path so might as well walk on the one you want and enjoy the process.
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besserwisser

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Yeah, this is how you make someone stronger teeth

"I am scared of getting my ass kicked."
"ACCEPT DEATH MOFO!!!"
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DutchTornado

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listen to this every night before you go out:

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Koolaid

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Don't go to ghetto places. 
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Life changing self-esteem article by Tyler
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Excellent post about practice and consistency by Ozzie. Really hits home.
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Field report thread.
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jlaix

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Time to move out of Essex. 

Also, your characterization of "state" raises questions as to whether you actually understand the concept. 
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