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#61

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Join Date: 09/23/2009 | Posts: 152

Manwhore wrote:
 Hey dude..

I never noticed this until now, but you need to realize your experiences with girls, success OR failure, has NOTHING at all to do with your shitty state.

It kind of aggravates me to see this pattern with you.

These weak sad mental thoughts about yourself are just old patterns dude.  Yet you're correlating them with supposedly bad social skills.  They have NOTHING to do with it.  

Stop being a and release these stupid negative thought patterns.  Reprogram and focus your mind better when you start to feel them.  They're completely unrelated to what you think is your lack of social skills or whatever you try to call it.  

Imagine if you were addicted to cigarettes.. you haven't had one for awhile, and you're out talking to chicks...  Well you start to feel like shit, and you blame your "state" or your "not manning up" or whatever.. but in reality your body is just craving nicotene and bein' a weak and you need to tell it what's up.

Negative thought spirals is a symptom of not taking control of your mind and telling it what's up.  You don't realize this so you perpetuate the stupid mental thought patterns by incorrectly connecting it in your mind to social interactions with chicks.. and therefore you think they're excusable and supposed to be there, and PERPETUATE them.  Stop it dude.  
True enough.  I realize these things but really unsure how to work on them.  Lately, it's been hmm...  What would I normally do?  Then leading to WHAT DO I WANT?  Normally, inaction = more negative badgering.  Now, it's taking action and getting consistent with that action.  It's tough but I'll get there!
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#62

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fiddler2068 wrote:
Hey Bro,

some things I noticed reading your FRs.
1. Just BE
2. Have fun

you are way too much inside your head.  Let it go.  If you get blown out, you get blown out, it has NOTHING to do with you.  Just go do another set.
Once you let go, you will have fun and crazy stuff will come out of your mouth.  You will always have something to say so stop worrying about it.
Did I mention to just let go and be in the present?  You lead and the girl is doing whatever you want and then you get inside your head and it goes downhill.

Just keep going, you are doing fine.  This shit happens to everyone.  Otherwise it would be BC and bam, master PUA.  sorry bro, gotta put in your time and don't worry about what other people think, what you need to do next or say next.  whatever it is, it will come out if you let go and JUST BE.

Oh and check out DVD 18 of Blueprint.

great FRs.  I encourage you to keep going.
For sure.  Thanks for the advice and reading my FR.
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#63

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12/01/2010

Just a quick update.

Had a girl over Thanksgiving break.  I'm only friends with her because she has a hookup for DMT and I want to try that out.  If you don't know, look up Joe Rogan - DMT, better yet, check this shit out right HERE.



This was our second time hanging out, first time was with me, her and my friends.  I tried to kiss her the first time but she kept giving me the cheek.  I didn't care and it wasn't going anywhere so I decided to give her the boot and go out BEASTING.  Second time, me and her alone.  I'm playing video games, slightly engaging her whenever I want, rubbing her down.  Going from hot and cold until my game was done and just went for the makeout.  BOOOM.  We makeout, she's a biter, major turn off.  I push her away and turn on Burn Notice, YEAHHHH one of my fave shows.  Banter back and forth, more hot and cold.  We make out again, no biting, finally...  Get on top of her and start letting hands loose on her tits.  They're alright, nothing special.  =./

I guess all titties deserve attention, do my thing, gets hot and heavy, decide to undo my jean buttons.  She pushes me off and I don't really care.  Button up and go completely cold.  She wants to cuddle but I'm not having it.  Decide it's time for her to go and go pick up another girl who is DTF.  This other girl basically gives me whatever I want when I want.  I don't really have any emotional connection with her so I don't care.  (Learning to apply this towards any girl, indifference aka NOT GIVING A FUCK.  It's gonna happen or you can leave.  K THX.)

We fuck the whole weekend basically.  Come back to work, flirt with coworker.  Apparently, I'm the talk of the worktown for being an asshole.  WELL GUESS WHAT HOE, ASSHOLES NEED LOVING TOO.

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#64

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la la la la, what i've been up to...




so, uhh....  yeah...  i tried gaming this model, it didn't go anywhere but at least it was fun.  when your full of positive emotions, people can't help but follow you.  PRESENCE??? hmmm, yesssssss.
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#65

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12/03/2010

just got back from beasting, nothing really stuck tonight. 

the sets i can remember

set 1, claw a mega hottie, i got pushed by her friend and got the nastiest look ever.  i didn't own it and they walk off.  (I laughed it off but it stung, i will admi it)

set 2, help my friend by winging, girls from switzerland, mannnn i really wanted to take her home and have her bent over.  her accent was definitely hot.  chode shit.  tried to pull her to dance, sko sko sko sko, she said ask her friend, i said HEY WE LIKE EACH OTHER, WE'RE GOING TO DANCE, they looked at each other and spoke in their native tongue.  pooof never to be seen again  (friend didn't get number but we high fived each other because each guy that approached before them blew out after 20 seconds, we were there for a good 5 mins, FUCK YEAH)

set 3, YOOOO I KNOW YOU, you're casee's friend!  (i really didn't know her), OH YOUUUUUUUU we met during your birthday (oh shit she knows me), get in set and i really winged my friend by distracting 5 girls.  i saw the italian with big tits, spin hug marriage ensues, she wasn't having it, kept positive and kept it light by naming our babies, she insinuated italians and asian babies are ugly, i proceed to repeat over and over that they're ours so we love them and i'm fucking handsome.  she then goes into this cheerleading chant to blow me off, i don't really pay attention and continue with the shenanigans, they get tired and pooofffffff gone.  (friend got the number and tried setting up day 2)

set 4 tried to approach a group on the dance floor, no goes, all women go into WHO THE FUCK IS THIS GUY mode.  i try backing that thing up and go, you want to touch yes yes, and i grabbed their hands and put it on my ass, NO GO.  pooofffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

just got home so i can get enough sleep for work tomorrow, not a big deal but still feeling a little bummed that nothing stuck.  

before leaving, socialized with some cool dudes, giving me props because they saw me approach and thought i was pimp, sadface....  if they only knew the truth that i wasn't CLOSING.  oh, while i was leaving the venue some prissy little girl that was my friend's ex's friend was giving me attitude, i wasn't having it and put her in her place.  she tried to act all bitchy towards me and i don't know what happened.  i kept blurted funny and obscene things and she got frustrated and drove off when her car came.  it was hilarious to me but it's weird how i react to bad attitudes.
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#66

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12/05/2010

went out yesterday, opened a few sets nothing really stuck until a girl i hooked up with in the past and her best friend saw me.

they commented on how different/cute i look, i hooked up with the redhead before and the brunette was into my friend.  i tried being a great wing and hooking up my friend with the brunette but he never pulled the trigger, it was a constant push to get the girl to stick with him and i told him multiple times that she wants his DICK TONIGHT.  he didn't pull the trigger.

i approach more sets and the redhead gets a little jealous, so i lead her outside and basically molest her in a dark corner with people watching and making comments.  the finger blasting ensues, i was gonna pull her to a more secluded area known as alley but more people started to walk by and it was getting more apparent on what i was doing.  i go cold right away and say let's go look for our friends.  i basically ditch her and there is the brunette, throughout the night we've been getting really close and this time around she comes up to me and i tell her to stop.  she shouldn't be around me when i drink.  she asks why and i get in her face and pull her hair a bit, she gets fucking turned on and tell her i can't do that to my friend and she should go find him.

i walk back outside because i was a little too heated at that moment and needed to recollect myself.  she follows and i really tell her to stop but at the same time, i wanted her.  i pull her to the same corner as i did her best friend and molested her.  she specifically tells me that she hates me because i can step up by my friend can't and that she can never hook up with him now.  i ignore that little guilt comment and get even more physical.  she starts to moan and tell me how she wants to be bent over, i wanted to find the alley but we found a nice little nook and cranny between a moving truck and building wall.  more physicality and dirty talk.

i talked about the logistics and it wasn't looking good, she came with friends, i came with friends.  the friend she wanted to hook up with is my fucking roommate lol.  we decided to put this off and we'll hook up later sometime this week when he isn't home.

i get her number and when the party ends, i text her


me: drive home safe punk ;P

her: who is this?

me: ricky

me: i mean guess haha first hint i'm handsome

her: ya that's what i thought

me: my bat is gonna die let's meet up in 2 hours(i went to go eat at a 24 hour diner with some friends and wanted to see if i could just come over her house and fuck the shit out of her after i got dropped off)

me: txt me your address

her: i'm having some friends over so it would be weird

me: you're right but i want to see you bad

her: not tonight :( you're bad

me: credit to brad?  you don't even want to know what i'd do to you right now(i fall asleep)

her: you were so bad last night

 i'm just gonna keep silent to let the tension build and text her later tonight, set something up in the next 2 - 3 days

SIDE NOTE:  it's funny cause the redhead hasn't told the brunette i hooked up with her multiple times.  the brunette was telling me that it's too bad that the redhead isn't into asians ;)
IF ONLY SHE KNEW HAHHAAHHAHAHAH


di di di di di di that's all folks.



*** 12/05/2010 *** UPDATE on brunette; we were texting back and forth, i think i spooked her off with too much sexuality in my text, it probably came off as needy. all it took was 2 texts to break the deal, LESS IS MORE i guess. i called her later that night only to get her voicemail, i pretty much meow on all my voicemessages now hah. i'm pretty sure i'm not conveying the right vibe or else my penis would be getting wet right now. =/
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#67

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12/09/2010

it's a constant up and down process for me.  i have my days where i'm doing okay, doing well or just feel like crap.  my goal is consistency, not perfection.

i also pinpointed why i feel the way i do.  i'm lonely and bored, which is detrimental to my game because i'm value taking at any given point.

i find myself thinking about pickup 24/7 and i joined some online dating websites to increase my chances of getting laid.


ON TO THE FR.


just got back from going out, left early because i felt the negativity creep in and i'd want to chop off my own arm before i do another approach.  my wing isn't being my accountability buddy and i find it's like going out completely solo....  AWKWARD.  like i'll approach and he'll watch really close and creep the girls out.  he doesn't approach but he knows of the game and reads/watchings a lot of pickup material.  he'd rather lie to himself and dance it out completely alone than approach or PEOPLE WATCH and chode it up.  this makes it that much harder for me.

did a few sets at least 5 - 10 mins each.

set 1
out in the smoking area encouraging my friend to go out there and have fun, lose the agenda and do retarded shit.  3 girls come out and they go bday girl whooo.  i approach and do the routine handshake twirl and give a hug at the end for the bday girl.  the bday girl's friend love me, saying that i'm awesome and i'm ridicuoulously cute, blah blah blah.  i tell her let's go dance, she doesnt want to.  she wants to smoke first and hang with her girls.  i talk about random shit that happened my day and bounce to more sets.

reopened a few times when they bumped into me and what not.  i couldn't handle their whole group of girls, i was feeling the social pressure when 8 girls are ignoring me lol.

now that i think about it, i should have slowed down the dancing part and the SKO SKO SKO SKO.  i should have kissed the bday girl but i was more into her friend.

set 2
girl on the dance floor, i was feeling a little high off the last approach so i approached the loner with I LIKE TURTLES.  it opens and stales out.

i don't know if i should go through the notions of escalating on every set i open, my natural feeling is if i don't feel it, don't escalate unless she's fuckable.

set 3
go to the lounging area, 2 set.  come in with I LIKE TURTLES, she replied with and so, i retort with IRRELEVANT I AM THE KING OF SIAM.  she and her friend bounce.
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12/10/2010

so i get a call at 2 AM from the brunette.  i already know it's on and a bootycall.  she wants me over, i get up change brush the pearlies and head over to her place.  drive over and we fuck.  it was meh, she's a little too on the weird side for me.  after we were done, we had some pillow talk.  she's pretty open about her sex life and it's cool in some respect.  she's had threesomes with either two men or two females.  she's performed a silhouette sex show with another woman at burning man.  all in all, pretty cool chick but i don't think i would ever fuck her again.  she does give nice head, very experienced in that department.  takes it all the way while she looks at you ;)

it's pretty funny that i dismissed this girl because i thought i fucked up.  turns out the texting on her phone was fucked up and she had been thinking about fucking me all that week.  i'm learning that i'm too quick to judge and let my negativity creep in and control my behaviors and fuck me in the long run.

WORK IN PROGRESS.
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#69
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Manwhore wrote:
 Hey dude..

I never noticed this until now, but you need to realize your experiences with girls, success OR failure, has NOTHING at all to do with your shitty state.

It kind of aggravates me to see this pattern with you.

These weak sad mental thoughts about yourself are just old patterns dude.  Yet you're correlating them with supposedly bad social skills.  They have NOTHING to do with it.  

Stop being a and release these stupid negative thought patterns.  Reprogram and focus your mind better when you start to feel them.  They're completely unrelated to what you think is your lack of social skills or whatever you try to call it.  

Imagine if you were addicted to cigarettes.. you haven't had one for awhile, and you're out talking to chicks...  Well you start to feel like shit, and you blame your "state" or your "not manning up" or whatever.. but in reality your body is just craving nicotene and bein' a weak and you need to tell it what's up.

Negative thought spirals is a symptom of not taking control of your mind and telling it what's up.  You don't realize this so you perpetuate the stupid mental thought patterns by incorrectly connecting it in your mind to social interactions with chicks.. and therefore you think they're excusable and supposed to be there, and PERPETUATE them.  Stop it dude.  
Good advice Manwhore
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12/12/2010

i went to a party in an industrial area in LA to some artist's party, primarily this burning man group.  i thought it was funny because 90% of the guys there were just spitting images of miss tory.  the mannerisms, the some with a top hat, others with black steam punk goggles and leather pants with the all magical feather boa.  i felt out of place, even more so giving props to my friend.  he gave up the whole community bullshit and decided to drop it but still pursues in his own way.  he met this dj/burlesque dancer girl on thursday.  she invited him to this gig and he invited me, i showed up later due to the UFC fight and GSP shut Koscheck up.

i got there and soaked in the environment, saw some girl that i had madeout with a few months back at a Do Lab party.  i thought that was funny because i saw her later getting hit on many miss tory copy cats and here comes this guy who looks like his mid 40s and this girl who is early 20s, he chats the girl up and isn't afraid to put himself out there.  it was messy and sloppy but he makes out with her, i thought that was the craziest shit ever.  he sees another girl in green that is pretty much skimping around in a holiday green thong, fishnets and a bra.  instant boner(major ass like vida guerra...).  he chats her up like they know eachother and he leaves with her.  WOW, that's fucking mind blowing.


i meet my friend and his dj/burlesque dancer girl, mighty cute.  i was JELIZ at the progress he's made.

throughout the night i choded it up and saw a dude that attended hotseat.  he seemed like a genuine guy.  i watched him and i could see myself(not in a gay way) in him.  the whole in your head and going out to pick up gimmick going on.  he didn't escalate but just socialized.  i was mainly there to watch and understand the interactions from person to person and from man to woman.  i noticed the big difference between the guys who had confidence in themselves versus the guys who stood and watch.  i felt this slight pang in my heart because i'm at that crossroad right now.  i've put so much pressure on myself because i didn't want to be this guy who just watched, who never took any action and never enjoyed life as much as he should.  it was an epiphany of sorts and one that will  influence my future.  (letting go of this fear of ending up old, watching as life goes by.)

i talked to my friend about how i really felt on the inside, like the shit i've never told anyone before.  i kept it light and he said something to me that i'm going to take with me on this path and it went something like this. 

"Think of yourself as having an unlimited, inexhaustible amount of money, like only hundred dollar bills.  Everybody else you come across either has pennies, nickels, dimes, quarters, dollars and occasionally you meet people that have this unlimited supply like you do.  And because you have this unlimited amount of money, you're giving it away.  Some people are either going to take it and some people aren't.  The people that take it and receive are going to be that much more appreciative in their life because of you.  That's like good emotions.  You want to be that guy who has unlimited happiness and joy, and give it to all those who cross your path.  Some people will accept it with open arms and others will question your intentions.  At the end of the day it doesn't matter because you're that person that doesn't need anybody else to give you money because you have that abundance, you have that mentality." 

He also elaborated how he has all these people cheering for him, giving him love and support and that he'll take this anywhere he goes and give!

It went something like that and it struck a chord with me.  It goes back to Tyler and saying offering value, coming with a full cup.  This whole process is slowly filling whatever blindspots/sticking points I have and I've been having a hard time adjusting because it's all new to me.  It's my ego trying to clasp on to what it has and like all things, it's afraid to die.  It's finding shelter and comfort in what it only knows will sustain it.  Like the weather, it too will pass.
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