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May 24th, 2013
Are your standards too high?
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#21
crusher~

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Slick85 wrote:
thats exactly my point... so even if you have "good game" so to speak and approach a girl... she will be wishing that the super attractive guy approached her instead, kind of like when a fat girl is into you you REALLY wish the hot girl was and would jump on her in a heartbeat... then even if she gives you a chance she will constantly be shit testing you because she is frustrated that the guy she really wants isnt into her... at least thats how it felt with some of my past g/f's
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Slick85 wrote:
It seems good to have standards but if your average on the looks scale and a guy who is super attractive on the looks scale approaches the same girl who will she choose? Even if your game is good its likely the very attractive guy will have good game and she would choose him over you, so lowering your standards the same guy might not approach the other girl who is less attractive and thus you have elmiminated the competition
Well, it seems to me that your comparison is based on a faulty premise. I don't see super attractive guys making cold approaches. Perhaps they do in other places, but isn't it likely that super attractive guys get approached by lots of women and thus they don't need to approach? However, beyond that it seems that if you don't abide by your standards, you don't really have standards, just wishes or hopes.

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I probably am missing the point.

What I hear you saying is that your standards need be realistic and realistically attainable. In this, I agree. I don't find my standards to be unrealistic or unattainable. I have reference experiences that allow me to conclude that my standards aren't out of line. Yes, I have been approached by women that don't meet my standards, and while I was flattered and appreciate the attention, that didn't mean that I was going to change my standards. I'd rather go home alone than compromise my standards.

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#22

TheAlex

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Join Date: 08/06/2009 | Posts: 51

I have my standards, both on what is visible and on what is not.

Some people say they're super high, some say normal some say I can do better.

Who gives a fuck, the thing is: do you really enjoy that woman? if not then you re cheating yourself, and should go for better ones.
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#23
philly37

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i know the looks don't matter thing is popular here but aren't some people just trying for something that really is not attainable? don't some people have to realize that going for model types is just out of their league?
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#24

Slick85

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I'm no master PUA but a model girl CAN EASILY get a model guy... sure, you can have crazy game and pass her tests and caveman or whatever but for her to actually stick around you will have to have equal or higher value with her... and a solid nine with an average looking guy... that ain happenin CONSISTENTLY... I would rather have a girl that really cares about me anyway than someone who always feels like they could do better, that would be a pain in the ass to deal with... in fact I've been recently turning girls down who are into me if I feel there out of my league b/c I don't want to be just their last resort guy
philly30 wrote:
i know the looks don't matter thing is popular here but aren't some people just trying for something that really is not attainable? don't some people have to realize that going for model types is just out of their league?
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Slick85

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keep in mind tho Billy Corgan and BBT are both ok/decent looking, okay faces, not overweight, not short... BUT they have that rockstar image. Not only that you can't compare celebrities to average people... why do you think jennier aniston dumped vince vaughn, he didnt look good enough plain and simple, people can always get lucky but consistency is key... also they hotter girls I have dated have always gotten on my ass about my looks after we broke up, called me short and said "the guys i real want don't want me and the guys who like me i don't like that much" etc... hmmm why would that be? i would tkae the less attractive girl who cares any day of the week
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philly30 wrote:
i know the looks don't matter thing is popular here but aren't some people just trying for something that really is not attainable? don't some people have to realize that going for model types is just out of their league?

Jessica Simpson went from Tony Romo to Billy Corgan. Do looks really matter?? Have you seen Billy Corgan?? SURE GOOD LOOKS HELP. But they don't limit you from being succesful.
The reason most guys are unsuccesful with women is because they don't believe they deserve 9's or 10's. Point blank. THEY LACK CONFIDENCE.
Before Brad Pitt. Angelina Jolie dated Billy Bob Thornton. She had her options of Jude Law, Tyreese, Matthe McCouneghey, George Clooney, etc, etc. and she dated Billy Bob Thornton!!!!
If you are highly confident. Have shit going on for you in your life. Great personality, great lifestyle, great career or some combination of that. And you believe in yourself.
and you really have REAL CONFIDENCE in yourself. Girls will be attracted to you.
Girls are attracted to confidence like guys are attracted to tits and ass.
A lot of good looking guys just happen to have confidence. Because society says good looking guys should date good looking girls.
That gets hammered into them over and over again until many of them develop confidence. And to the average chump. this just further supports his "belief" that girls are superficial like us.
Girls are mostly attacted to confidence. More than looks. Way more. 



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philly37

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i think  most men fall into the category of around average, the people you named would fall into that category, and i do agree that with good game you can overcome being not so great looking. but there are guys who physically really don't have much going for them. and are below average, i just in my day to day life do not see one of these guys with a hot girl, i am not saying it does not happen but i just don;t see it
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#27

Gray

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 Just one comment about Billy Bob Thorton dating Angelina Jolie, and this is has nothing to do with looks;

I've met and had a conversation with Billy Bob Thorton and the dude has very little confidence.  Weird vibes galore and nothing like I thought he'd be. He didn't win over a 10 with his sense of humor or 'strong sense of reality'.  My point is, don't forget the wild card; sometimes there are no 'rules of attraction'.  
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