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December 4th, 2016
Self image is no longer a priority of mine. (Aka just do it)
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Shazam!

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Yeah, fuck self image, ideal self and all that effected behavioral crap.  I'm just gonna let who I am handle itself while I do what I want.  Definition is overrated. If at any time, you've got a self definition that seems to fit really well, or think that others have you pegged in some way, you know what a better one would be? Faker. People are too fluid to just define. We are not our habits. Why limit yourself to meet some definition?

EVERY definition is a limit. It implies you can take some actions, and you can't take other actions. That you can feel this, and you can't feel that.

That you can think this, like this person, enjoy this kind of thing, fuck the shit out of this other person, handle a relationship with this person (or people), be this other persons freind, become good at this habit, achieve this, and a more practical example for this board (but not life), approaching this hot of a girl, yadda yadda ya, and that everything else is out of reach, without ANY regard to what you actually want, can do, feel, see.  It just holds you back.  Even in situations where one could argue it doesn't (I know who I am, bla bla bla, gonnna fight this yadda yaa), it does not help.  Granted, a map of your own making is better than a map of somebody else's making, but I myself would rather leave the world of maps alone when it comes to my self concept.

It's like reading a gps, and completely ignoring the territory you're walking through. You'll fall off fucking cliffs doing that. You'll miss all sorts of details about your surroundings, or in this case, your authenticity, no matter who's map it is, or what it says. It could say you're in the "You're awesome quarter of you're awesomeville near you're so fucking awesome square", and it would not fucking matter.  You'd keep stubbing your figurative toe on things.  You'd still be fake. 

The tricky part is, the mind is FAST, and can make these maps in a fucking HURRY, right up in your face. You feel 'sad'. The map instantly pops up in front of your face, saying "You are here (sadtown)". According to the map, there are only two roads on sadtown, and one is the 'walk around and act depressed' circle.  But wait! What's this!  There's another one called "distract yourself with something" way.  After all, that's what everyone else's map says, right?  That you can cure sadness at its root with fun and games and pills and entertainment and sex and greed and weed and relationships and achievement and being called 'cool' and all that stuff!  THAT MUST BE THE *KEY*!  And so you walk where the little GPS map of "sadville" tells you to walk in order to get out.  You continually trip, and fall, you break your nose once or twice on rocky terrain, but you faithfully pursue that little map in your head that says (you are here).  

If you were to look up from the map, and realize that the paved road so neatly portrayed on it is not there, you would realize that you are just walking, with no idea where you're going, wandering, lost.  CHODE.  That particular map is just one example that is common in most modern societies.  That map is a large part of what the buddhists call "Desire-aversion syndrome" (paraphrasing), as an aside.  But this post is not about that theory.

This post is about 'dropping the map of you', and thus coming into authenticity.  It's very important, and I've still got enough self definition in me to have the thought "You know, this post is a bit.... lofty, for you.  Like really, you're just starting to understand this on a deeper level.", but I'm going to try it anyway.  Excuse me if I lean on Tolle and Tyler a little bit here and there.  Hmm.... you know, thinking on it, I don't know if there's much more to write about it aside from 'how to'.  The reasons  are pretty well covered up there.

Well, I'll go with personal experience and my worldview, since anybody can just pick up a new earth and read Tolle without me quoting it to them. 

What I have observed in myself historically, is that I will often have a mental image of myself that changes depending on my situation and mindset.  Each image is like a 'template' that I force the fluid person that is me (everyone's a fluid person) into like a cookie cutter, or a playdough factory, until I pick a new template.  By default, my template of choice might be 'chode'.  So I take myself and, through the efforts of that amazing device that is my (everyone's) mind, shape the unlimited potential that is me into a quiet, unthinking, chode.  Then I realize "Wait a fuckin' minute.  Being chode SUCKS", and I pump myself up a little bit saying the mantra of the month or whatever.  Out goes playdough template number one, in goes template number two.  "I am awesome".  But whatever it says, that template isn't me.  I AM that 'playdough'.  I can move on my own, without help from the template.  But since I've gotten used to devoting my attention to doing so (and c'mon, it's just easier to settle in, get your templates and fall asleep), I just let the templates shape me, and as a result become quite rigid, despite the fact that that is not my nature.  So perhaps a better word would be 'act rigid' rather than become rigid. 

Now what alot of guys (including me) get into as they get into this, is they try to make a NEW template, and slowly they reinforce it.  Eventually, this 'template', which I've also called a map, actually starts looking like the real thing.  Your GPS says you are in "Iamapimptown, USA (yeah, it's in the US)".  Sometimes it even looks accurate.  It's hard to argue with the GPS when you're looking like, being viewed as, behaving as a pimp, and occasionally getting laid like a pimp does.  But what happens when a rock of life just falls down and puts a big ol' crack in your facade?  Oh, look, suddenly you have to struggle to rebuild it.  Even when you reinforce this identity very, very well, there will be breakdowns.  Though I don't think you really CAN enforce this identity particularly well.  I've never seen it, and getting back on track, I'm talking about my experience.  Even if you enforce it enough to past the average 'congruence test', eventually you will run into somebody more certain than you, or somebody you derive your certainty from is going to throw you off, and you'll be too busy reeling to rebuild the concept, to actually take what they say or do into account.  I've been there, too.

So how am I going about throwing away these old habits?  The answer's a little anticlimactic.  I stop investing in it.  I just let the maps and the mind and all that crap go on about how "bla de bla bla bla and you are this and you are not this and therefore you can act in this way but not this way and you like this, even though you don't, because dammit, that's what you've believed all this time!", and I don't object, or cooperate.  I do not cooperate with these old definitions.  I don't try to be contarian towards it, either, though I might give that a whirl some time in the context of making facing fears a big priority.  Then again, I'm afraid of getting into a gunfight somewhat.  I don't think I'm going to try to push that comfort zone.  The key is more than I won't let it get in my way.  Not in a combative way either like "Fuck that, I'm just gonna do it!".  That's a load of talk.  I just do it. 

A cynic reading that would be like "Just do it?  That's a load of crap! I could have watched a Nike commercial to get that!" (been there).  And yeah, that's true.  But there is no magic pill.  There is no mindset, no belief, no distinction, no tactic, no anything that will sub for that.  "Just do it" is the way to authenticity.  The ego tries to find reasons to do things, anxiously searcing others for reassurance and reinforcements, looking to society, looking to its own prejudices and all that.  I don't like calling it the ego, actually .  That gives it more life than it has, turns it into an 'antagonist' personifies it too much.  If you have to use that word, use it like you would the word "lungs".  But if you constantly look to your self concept 'maps', to rephrase it, or "Your little bullshit shelther of beliefs and interpretations", if you prefer a more Tyler flavor of expression, you will never truly get in touch with what you want.  Realizing that is a MAJOR HEADFUCK, btw.  Even just the relatively minor scale on which I've noticed it (which is enough) was enough to literally make my head spin for a little while. 

The simplest way to get through to what you truly want is "just do it."  I speculate that the reason is because "Just do it" is somehow an ego KILLER, because the ego is always looking for reinforcement.  But for all practical purposes, it doesn't really matter why.

Quit waiting for your 'template' or 'state', or 'self concept' or 'peers' or ANYTHING to tell you can do it, and JUST. DO IT.  Feel like changing the convo?  Just do it.  Frame is yours, because you don't probe for permission.  Feel like touching the girl? Just do it.  Bam, she's probably more turned on by that than any flinching move you could have done.  And you certainly are, too. 

JUST. 

Fucking.

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Do it.  Probably the biggest practical thing anybody here needs to know, and it's a concept that goes VERY DEEP.  You'll think you understand it, then you'll uncover another layer.
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Threat

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I was just thinking this....I fooled around with a super hot girl from work today, and it wouldn't have happened if I just didn't do it....i met more resistance than I ever have, but at the same time, I pushed more and "just did it" more than i ever have....there wasn't really anytime for thinking or worrying if i was in state, or other mental garbage...i just did it...i turned off my brain, got horny and determined and just did it...i demolished thousands of obstacles that would have held me back in the past....thank god i did, her tits and ass were epic.
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LeftHand

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Consider that saved for eternity on my hard drive. I've been flirting with this idea for a week now, awesome. I keep realizing that my head starts to build these fantasies around doing certain things for myself, justifications for my future actions. "These guys/girls are going to be so impressed with my fitness when I'm doing this." "I bet that dude thinks I'm strange for bringing my laptop into a gym" "Fuck, have to sound smart here, did microsoft start MVC?". I realize in the following few minutes how stupid all this is, but I never thought to lose... this was stream of conciousness and I realize I still don't get it, hold on. Ah, don't put yourself into a box. It's not possible and will never be totally accurate. Our personas as they act on the world around us are capable of being in violent flux, as long as we use our ability to step outside "oursleves" and give things a try. Archetectually speaking, it's engaging the right hemisphere while using the instructions of, then suspending the left. Cool, thanks for that.

Thanks for saying that about the world ego btw.

An intellectual rambling and explanation of the philosophy behind the stuff of champions, that's an interpretation of what happened here.

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Gseus

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Exactly what I have been thinking about lately, and you totally nailed it.
Woah, such a woowoo new agey topic, written in such a great non-woowoo way, thank you man!
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yeah, just do it.

what can you lose?
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yeah, just do it

what can you win?
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Getupa

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Very deep topic.
You really took out the woo-woo about just do it as Gseus said.
Loved it.
Thanks dude.
props.
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I'd like to add that in retrospect, this read like it's at odds with having personal standards if you squint at it just so.  It is not. 

It's just that you give yourself NO EXCUSE, no CONTRIVED REASON to live up to them, other than the fact that they are your personal standards.  Your personal standards may be your personal standards for reasons of their own that you've logically examined, as what you want may be what you want for similar reasons, but once you establish what you want or a personal standard, you initiate the actions to get/meet it, no matter what.  You don't wait for anything to tell you you're 'entitled' or some bullshit, you just GO after it.  No excuses, no fucking lame grandiose self image to push you along.  It's your standard.  That is enough.  That's not enough because you accomplished XYZ... it's just enough, because you are enough.  If you don't buy into that, test it.  Stop maintainig your little self image, and take the action anyway.  If you are somehow unable to take the action physically, then I'm wrong.  But you won't be.  And I'd probably go to the doctor to get that checked out if I were you.  So if it's your standard, or what you want, just fucking do it.
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 "In those moments that most people say I can't,  most people say self preservation, most people say what if?... We say "What if?" the other way. What if you land it? What if it is possible?" - Travis Pastrana - X Games Movie   "i'm not in this world to live you up to your expectations. And your not in this world to live up to mine." - Bruce Lee If you are taking more action than anyone else, why should you care about their opinion?" ~Derek "I want to see the world through my own eyes not in the reflection of others." - "While you standing around looking dumb. I make it happen, taking action over time. Got damn good at it too!" - T.I.
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