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July 29th, 2014
Ever Wonder Why Some Guys Are More Effeminate Than Others. Its the SOY
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SOY INFANT FORMULA — BIRTH CONTROL PILLS FOR BABIES[/][/FONT]

Babies fed soy-based formula have 13,000 to 22,000 times more estrogen compounds in their blood than babies fed milk-based formula.

Infants exclusively fed soy formula receive the estrogenic equivalent of at least five birth control pills per day.

Male infants undergo a “testosterone surge” during the first few months of life, when testosterone levels may be as high as those of an adult male. During this period, baby boys are programmed to express male characteristics after puberty, not only in the development of their sexual organs and other masculine physical traits, but also in setting patterns in the brain characteristic of male behavior.

Pediatricians are noticing greater numbers of boys whose physical maturation is delayed, or does not occur at all, including lack of development of the sexual organs. Learning disabilities, especially in male children, have reached epidemic proportions
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Phytoestrogens & Male Health[/][/FONT]

"For the males, decreased sperm count and enlarged prostates. The treatment altered virtually every aspect of the reproductive system. The place next to the testes, the duct system called the epididymis where the sperm are stored prior to being ejaculated -- it was abnormally small, which could account also for lowered sperm count in the ejaculate. But we know also the testis is making fewer sperm. We see changes in growth rate as well. One of the interesting things is that these very low doses of estrogen increase rates of growth. The animals were actually growing larger than they would have normally. It was really quite a dramatic effect. The females went into puberty early. And we saw changes in behavior, changes in reactivity to the presence of other animals in the environment. Essentially the animals looked to be somewhat hyper-reactive to stimuli. We have, in other words, effects on brain and behavior. We're also seeing changes in liver enzyme activity which determines the way we respond to external chemicals, how fast we clear drugs, how we metabolize drugs.

In other words, in every aspect of physiology that we look for, we see effects. And they're permanent. And the important thing about what I'm talking about is we are only exposing babies to these chemicals for very, very short periods of time in development and the consequences are for the rest of the life of that individual. Once you change the development of an organ there is no way to undo that effect. It's a life sentence -- that's a lifetime consequence. Medical science can't undo the development of organs." Fredrick Vom Saal, Professor of Biological Sciences, University of Missouri in an interview on estrogenic chemicals in the environment conducted in February 1998 by Doug Hamilton, producer of FRONTLINE's "Fooling With Nature."

From simple laboratory mice to the unusual case of the phytoestrogen sensitive captive cheetahs, there is ample evidence that dietary phytoestrogens cause infertility in a variety of animals. Why would this be? Like the other toxins in soybeans, the phytoestrogens are present in the soybean to ensure its survival. What better way to discourage predators than to make sure they aren't able to reproduce?

But what about humans? Some, such as Richard Sharpe and Theo Colborn, have suggested that the trend toward lower male fertility is due to environmental estrogens, including the soy phytoestrogens. But is there any evidence that phytoestrogens may place males at risk of reduced fertility? Also see quotes from Food Safety - a 21st Century Issue, by Professor Shaw in the New Zealand Science Review. The human sperm count decrease over the past five decades might relate to the introduction of soya to the western diet and the increasing popularity of vegetarianism - a sting in the tail for apparently healthy eating. More information is available from an article published in The Dominion, Wellington September 3 2001.

Nagata and colleagues have reported an inverse association between soy product intake and serum hormone concentrations in Japanese men. Research has demonstrated that chemical compounds can have a number of other effects on male health including decreasing prostate gland weight, lower testosterone levels, along with inducing significant testicular cell death and necrosis.

There is also strong evidence that soy phytoestrogens such as genistein can inhibit 17-b-hydroxysteroid oxidoreductase, an enzyme which is required for the synthesis of testosterone and the development of the CNS-gonadal axis. There is also evidence that the soy isoflavones genistein and daidzein are genotoxic to human sperm. It is quite possible, therefore, that phytoestrogens, along with other endocrine disrupting compounds such as DDT, may contribute to the worldwide decrease in male fertility.

The human sperm count decrease over the past five decades might relate to the introduction of soya to the western diet and the increasing popularity of vegetarianism - a sting in the tail for apparently healthy eating. More information is available from an article published in The Dominion, Wellington September 3 2001.

Congenital abnormalities of the male genital tract are also increasing, and once again soy phytoestrogens may be implicated, according to a study that found a higher incidence of birth defects in male offspring of vegetarian, soy-consuming mothers. There are also links between high soy diets during pregnancy and nursing and eventual developmental changes in children.
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 That's probably why China has a small population problem.
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yea i was talking to this guy about health and shit the other day. Soy produces estrogen which give u BOOBIES!
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Interesting.

When I was a baby the only milk i would drink was soy and my parents told that I refused to drink anything else.
Didn't hit puberty till 17 years old, was very short, had ADD, and had people tell me i was kind of effeminate.
My parents even took me to the hospital to get testosterone shots and were thinking about getting me on hgh because they were scared I would never grow over 5 ft.

Luckily,  I did grow to 5'9, I go to the gym everyday, and am pretty good looking so its all good ;)
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 I think that flaxseeds have simmilar effect but not so dramatic effect on estrogen.

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I know a kid who drinks nothing but milk. He is tired and thirsty, he drinks milk. He wakes up in the middle of the night and drinks milk. He goes to the gym and has milk in his bottle.

Needless to say, he is very effeminate, and acts like a scared cat. When someone he doesn't know walks into the room, he slinks out with a scared look on his face. He is quite a pansy. Coincidence? I think not.
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So we shouldn't drink milk? Because I have it with my cereal.
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That's why I RARELY eat tofu anymore.  Sucks cause its so good.
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ChinaBoy: I haven't heard about flax and high estrogen. But I have read about flax (ALA the fatty acid in flax) and an increased risk in prostate cancer. The studies range from no effect to causes prostate cancer to an actual decrease in prostate cancer cell. Bottomline: more research needs to be done...

Everyone should be consuming raw, organic milk and diary-based products. If its hard to find raw milk, try unpasturized, organic rice milk or coconut milk - they taste great and is less expensive. You should also avoid any food pasturized (diary or not).

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