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July 25th, 2017
Alanis Morrissette is offically A FATTY
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Yeah but listen to what she has to SAY. She's spouting Tolle.
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i didnt read this, but i approve 
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Hamlet wrote:
Yeah but listen to what she has to SAY. She's spouting Tolle.
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I'm a big fan of The Book of Pook....where he says women are entirely sexual beings.   So she can talk about personal responsibility....but I don't know if she means being a WOMAN...which is likely where the issue is.  The biggest personal responsibility.    Like being a man is...for a man. 

This fat thing is as much of an addiction as the nice guy cover up ( rage)...rejecting being a man....by covering the rage and being something he's not.    Alanis didn't cover the rage, but I don't know if she learned or not.   Fat shows it's still there.  Wow.

Many people get into meditation to get AROUND the core issue.  

She seems really cool though...and I like her anyway.    The thing about weight and rejecting SELF ( gender is at the core of it) is big.   It's like men are angry that women don't accept them for being non-male ( since it's so hard to be a real man).

And women are angry that men don't accept them for being a real woman ( physically attractive), since in an anger-packed society women eat to stuff feelings ( addiction-shame core-family shit).   Then they stop looking like women.

Here in Chile, like in the States, it would be almost impossible for women to be normal ( thin)...due to a tsunami of refined carbs and virtually no exercise. 

I don't buy this stuff about "taste" so much.   Fit bodies with curves are every man's taste if they're healthy.

Do women say that nice guys can be a woman's taste too?   Bullshit.  No woman in her right mind wants a nice guy.  

Same thing.
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Let's put it this way: by TODAY's standards, Marylin Monroe was a "fatty". Things change.

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By the way, must be hard to lose your man to her:

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I don't know if the only root to resisting her womanhood is stuffing herself with food. There also a lot of desexualized women that are very skinny and resemble the typical desexualized male (nerdy skinny nice guy type). And there are also lots of guys that stuff themselves with food and are chodes.

The point is that sexuality is a part of us and disconnecting from it or being ashamed of it is making people suffer (man or woman).
As for Alanis, I don't know how old these 'fat' pictures were versus the youtube clip, but maybe this whole loosing her man and becoming fat thing was just suffering into awakening for her.
She looks pretty alive and healthy in the video.
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Holland wrote:
I don't know if the only root to resisting her womanhood is stuffing herself with food.
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The point is that sexuality is a part of us and disconnecting from it or being ashamed of it is making people suffer (man or woman).
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As for Alanis, I don't know how old these 'fat' pictures were versus the youtube clip, but maybe this whole loosing her man and becoming fat thing was just suffering into awakening for her.
She looks pretty alive and healthy in the video.

 I'm trying to keep this simple.

GUYS ARE BEING SHAMED for liking what they like....and seeing what they see....and wanting what they want.  That's the Oprah world.

It's none of my business what Alanis went through.   I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT I WANT.   And be proud of it.   So what if  "it's not the only way" for her or any woman ...not to be a woman.  It ceretainly is a very big way.   Yeah...not the only way.

I DON'T LIKE FAT WOMEN or even "plus" size women or ANY of it.  Almost nobody does.  It's settling.   It's lying to yourself.   Should I analyze it?  A fatty is a fatty and it's sexually unattractive to 99% of guys.

"Alive and healthy"?   Huh?  Does that overcome a woman being a fatty and add a"new dimension" to sexuality?  C'mon.

In a guy it  DOES...but not with women.   It's not my issue about what women are.....and why ...or whatever.  The focus is on me.  I don't like fatties...and almost all guys don't.

It's such a bump up in self esteem to fucking tell the truth to myself...and it's a HUGE win for women too.    I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYONE'S DEAL BUT MY OWN.    And I don't have to analyze and ponder and mull through the ashes of women's self esteem issues either.   I thnk you're really crossing the line and lying to yourself.

It sucks the masculinity right out of a guy to lie to himself in this way.  I see no polarity existing after your post.   
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Remco~ wrote:
Oh yeah, the whole 'in the caveman days fat was attractive'.
Agreed.
No fat

With fat

Damn right

Our conceptions of what is fat also changed.
Fat is stored fuel, people who are considered fat are actually obese.
It means they will die from depletion of minerals, protein and spore elements before they die from a energy deficit.
If they starve to death they'd die fat.
Our body's never evolved with THIS much food around.

Obese

freak indeed
Of all the pics in this post...the most alive and "healthy" one is the obese woman.    WHAT HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH MALE SEXUAL ATTRACTION.

Oprah.
Tolle.
"Fairness"
Analysis

Gone in an instant.  All of it.  With one picture.   That's how a man works.   Men are socially conditioned to    QUESTION this.    As if sexual attraction isn't allowed if it isn't tied to Oprah's relationship world. 

I'm a man.   My sexuality doesn't work like a woman's.   Should it?   All of the "times have changed" and "analysis" and "energetic" blah blah.

FATTY.   Is it cruel to be yourself and feel what you feel and tell the truth straight up?   No history lessons and analysis?   Here it is in 5 words.

I love hot fit women.

They don't have to be PERFECT....but fatties are turn-offs.

   
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Uhm, dude, someone in this thread said Alanis lost the weight.
I think it's cool people get their lives handled and be an inspiration to others. Men and women.
I'm not sure whether Alanis did this, but it seems like it.
She still isn't the girl I'd go for, since I'm in my early twenties and she is in her late thirties.
I want hot girls my age.
But that doesn't mean I blind myself to everything expect hot girls my age. I like to acknowledge people for being an inspiration to other people. Not bash them down, because they happen to be unconsciously creating bullshit for themselves.

Besides, you created this thread and the focus of this thread seems to be Alanis, not you...
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