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January 24th, 2018
I'm done with women and there fucking games (please answer)?
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#31
EhhWhatsUpDoc

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Join Date: 10/26/2009 | Posts: 90

Kal0051 wrote:
Whatever, I'm still done with this. This shit is driving me crazy and I can't concentrate on things I should be concentrating on (ie, school). I'm done with women, and I'm done with this fucking "game". And btw TableDance, I've done exactly what you do and I've been told it scares girls away, that by doing that I'm coming on too strong. That's why I didn't do that with the girl I last went out with. Well, doesn't matter anymore, just gotta find a way to keep my urges in check and not have them distract me anymore.

"A man following his woman was the original sin.Never follow your woman playas.It should always be the other way around." - K-Flex

Judging from your posts, you obviously have been reading a lot, implementing little, and understanding nothing.
You're a newbie with whatever years of experience with lots of information and no knowledge.

Right now you are going from chode to the "dark side". Have lots fun doing it :D Keep telling it the way it is, and let them calibrate to you or smack you in the face.

You haven't pushed yourself hard enough with intensity. It's like you have been going to the gym for months, but kept doing the wrong form (bad information, lack of understanding of things you've read), not pushing hard enough (not sticking to each set until they totally blow you out or leave), going like 4-8 times a week with random shedules (lack of discipline), or just don't have time...

And yeah I recommend taking a bootcamp when you get enough money. The way you view "PUAs" (and how mainstream is still lagging) is as if they are pushing buttons and not being themselves, and you are right. The old PU ways are all about creating impressions on the girls, while recently it has been shifting towards expressing and not impressing until you get to a level where you natural expression causes them to game you.

I have been doing this since '99. Dropped it in one year (there was only so much to learn), took it back up in 2003, dropped it in 2006, took it back up in 2008... If you quit right now, I bet money on it there will be a time in your life where you will set almost everything aside so you can just focus on this.
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#32

Kal0051

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Join Date: 02/09/2009 | Posts: 581

dloux31 wrote:
We are adding to his frustrations (albeit with good intentions) rather really helping him.
 


this is more or less correct. It doesn't help when guys tell me it's so easy to get girls. I finally got my best friend to shut up after years of him telling me how to get girls (basically telling me what I'm trying). But yeah, I'm not gonna try and get any girls for the next couple of months (I'm gonna be busy with work and school anyways).  Maybe in a couple months I'll be feeling better bout things. But the only thing I'm not sure of is if I should do anything with girls at all.
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#33
xGuyx

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Join Date: 08/14/2009 | Posts: 240

so what are you going to do? be gay? suicide?

maybe you should specify more on what exactly you've been doing.....going out? how many sets? how do you approach? what style? use deodarant? use routines?

dont give up!....get some kind of a program if you cant afford a BC....like foundations or whatever and go from there
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Kal0051

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xGuyx: Yes I wear deodarant. And no I don't use routines or canned lines. I don't use those because it would come across weird since I'm not being myself. I usually go out once a week (sometimes twice). Usually I go out with a group of friends to a pub and sometimes a club. I don't count how many "sets", but I usually approach 3-4 different girls at least (some nights I'm more up for meeting new ppl, some nights I prefer to just chill with my friends). I don't know what style I use, I just introduce myself and act like me. And I'm not turning gay, I just don't feel like putting the effort in anymore (since it's just wasted effort anyway).

Newuser: I'm not over weight. I'm 5'10", 175lbs, medium build, short blonde hair, blue eyes. So I'm not a bad looking guy, I've even been told I was attractive (though all the girls who told me this weren't interested). I've never had a "gimmie", I've never had a girl ever express interest in me. And I'm not trolling, I'm telling the honest truth.
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xGuyx

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Kal0051 wrote:
xGuyx: Yes I wear deodarant. And no I don't use routines or canned lines. I don't use those because it would come across weird since I'm not being myself. I usually go out once a week (sometimes twice). Usually I go out with a group of friends to a pub and sometimes a club. I don't count how many "sets", but I usually approach 3-4 different girls at least (some nights I'm more up for meeting new ppl, some nights I prefer to just chill with my friends). I don't know what style I use, I just introduce myself and act like me. And I'm not turning gay, I just don't feel like putting the effort in anymore (since it's just wasted effort anyway).

Newuser: I'm not over weight. I'm 5'10", 175lbs, medium build, short blonde hair, blue eyes. So I'm not a bad looking guy, I've even been told I was attractive (though all the girls who told me this weren't interested). I've never had a "gimmie", I've never had a girl ever express interest in me. And I'm not trolling, I'm telling the honest truth.
I have a feeling that there are guys who come to RSD cause they can "be themselves" ....or more accurately.....not do shit, keep doing the same boring shit they did before, no learning, no steping outside of comfort zones, no challange.....its like you want to build muscle by going to the gym and watch the tv

THIS IS NOT WHAT IT MEANS TO BE YOURSELF

I suggest you pickup somekind of material and work on it.... get a program.....any program like foundations, transformations, or other stuff by other poahhs....stay away from blueprint...will probably just breed more mental mustarbation and wont lead you where you need to go right now...
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#36
Kirra

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xGuyx wrote:

Kal0051 wrote:
xGuyx: Yes I wear deodarant. And no I don't use routines or canned lines. I don't use those because it would come across weird since I'm not being myself. I usually go out once a week (sometimes twice). Usually I go out with a group of friends to a pub and sometimes a club. I don't count how many "sets", but I usually approach 3-4 different girls at least (some nights I'm more up for meeting new ppl, some nights I prefer to just chill with my friends). I don't know what style I use, I just introduce myself and act like me. And I'm not turning gay, I just don't feel like putting the effort in anymore (since it's just wasted effort anyway).

Newuser: I'm not over weight. I'm 5'10", 175lbs, medium build, short blonde hair, blue eyes. So I'm not a bad looking guy, I've even been told I was attractive (though all the girls who told me this weren't interested). I've never had a "gimmie", I've never had a girl ever express interest in me. And I'm not trolling, I'm telling the honest truth.
I have a feeling that there are guys who come to RSD cause they can "be themselves" ....or more accurately.....not do shit, keep doing the same boring shit they did before, no learning, no steping outside of comfort zones, no challange.....its like you want to build muscle by going to the gym and watch the tv

THIS IS NOT WHAT IT MEANS TO BE YOURSELF

I suggest you pickup somekind of material and work on it.... get a program.....any program like foundations, transformations, or other stuff by other poahhs....stay away from blueprint...will probably just breed more mental mustarbation and wont lead you where you need to go right now...



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6 minutes a day man! Foh realz!
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#37
Soco!

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Join Date: 01/18/2008 | Posts: 206

Its pretty tuff.

I recently had a girl that was really into me drop the ball COMPLETELY. Girls are wierd and do strange things.

My guess is that your not meeting enough women. Find some activities to get involved with, make friends and still go out. Dont just rely on cold approach.

Go to meetup.com and find a social group or some activity you like.

Check out some of Papa's articles on social circle game. You need to get that handled before you start hitting the night clubs. It will make it much easier.

Good luck man
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#38

kungfoochicken08

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Join Date: 05/12/2008 | Posts: 16

Well cheers to eating tubs of icecream, listening to Taylor Swift and using your tears as lube to masturbate for the rest of your life.
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#39

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Join Date: 10/26/2009 | Posts: 146

Kal0051 wrote:
I'm not doing a bootcamp. I'm a student and don't have thousands of dollars to give away to some "PUA". I don't live in the US.

I've tried various things to fix this problem. I dress well, am groomed properly, all the basics. I don't have high standards, though I don't like fat girls, I mostly go for average girls. I approach quite a lot, and usually go out once or twice a week (poor student remember). But anytime I approach they just ignore me. Sometimes I get a number (maybe once out of 10 girls) but then they just play their fucking games and I end up deleting it. I have tried online dating, but realized that in my area girls just use it as an ego boost and aren't interested in meeting up (meet 2 girls from POF and then they both got in relationships with guys from outside the internet). As for my female friends, well none of them are interested in setting me up with their friends, I've asked. Of course I have friends, though mostly now I only have male friends because most of my female friends are in relationships and have pushed me out of their lives. This is a fairly major problem because I should be able to get a girl every once in a while. I don't care about being some "PUA", I don't have time for that crap. All I want is to be able to go out with a girl and have fun. Maybe even have a girlfriend.

And someone asked what happened on the date: We went out for drinks and talked for a couple hours. Her body language read that she was into me. No I didn't escalate too much, it was difficult where we were (across a table at a restaurant). And no I didn't close her (I assume you mean kiss her), we did hug when we left though. The date seemed to go well, but afterwards she wouldn't talk to me at all.

I doubt anyone here can help me, I just needed to vent. I've tried to help myself and had no luck so now I'm just gonna give up. If you want to comment go ahead, maybe you'll say something insightful or something that can help someone else in my position.


I think you're being a little hard on yourself. OK, your situation is tough granted. I used to have the same types of problems, it was a really LONG time ago but I remember how much it sucked when girls didn't want to talk to me again or even at all.

But let's look at the facts here, there's nothing physically wrong with you. There are things you are doing to repel the girls, admit that first. Second try to identify what they are and where it happens and keep changing things until you get past that point.

For instance you went on a date with this girl, there are better ways to get girls especially if you're still fairly young. Second if you're going to go on a date sitting across the table from you for 2 hours is probably not that fun for the girl and as you said gives you no way to escalate. And after 2 hours of conversation she was probably ready to sleep and was completely bored.

She might be polite but maybe you could consider meeting her there spend 20 minutes eating and then take her somewhere else? And then another place? Try something fun instead of the standard date stuff. Lead her around, c'mon we're going now. I have a surprise for you, no I'm not telling you what, let's go.

She didn't have fun and it's not because of your looks. Hey women have told me I'm good looking to my face out of the blue and I'll tell you this: it doesn't help at all. I get thrown a few easy ones here and there but that's it. The rest are hard as hell. Worst part is everyone thinks I should have a hot girlfriend - even girls who reject me!

I was trying to pull a threesome in a hotel room with these two old milfs and they got pissed when I told them I was 34 and not married, they turned on me.

It's funny but they don't seem to realize that if they are rejecting me other girls probably are too. You should be married to a beautiful woman! Meanwhile I'm failing at fucking  two desperate, bitter over the hill skanks! You're not the only one with problems. lol

Use your imagination and make things interesting for her, instead of doing the same wrong things over and over try something new.
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MorningWood

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Join Date: 08/20/2009 | Posts: 139

You obviously didn't get physical with her or anything until that awkward-sounding hug at the end. That was probably what did it. Like the other guy said, she probably didn't want to waste her time for months on end waiting for you to try something. Or maybe you said something that turned her off or creeped her out somewhere in the conversation. Who knows? We weren't there.
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