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January 24th, 2017
What do you do if your wingman is better than you?
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#41
MasterSword

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Join Date: 08/06/2009 | Posts: 207

You can learn from him. Girls don't give a fuck about what you look like. If there is a little voice inside screaming "I'm a chode, i'm short, oh no oh shit" than she will FEEL that. Best thing you can do is go out and fail more, but learn from your blow outs.
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#42
Threat

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Join Date: 04/18/2008 | Posts: 110

As an AFC at the age of 35, you have the odds stacked against you....not because of weight, looks, etc, but because of ingrained mindsets. The older you get, the more you've run various lines of code over and over again in your head. If you've been running bad thoughts through your brain over the course of 35 years...it will take a lot longer to undo the damage than if a 20 year old stumbles upon this stuff.

This is not a physical game we play. This is a mental game. Strongest reality wins. Enforce your reality. If you think the woman is not interested before you even approach, you have no shot.

I wish you well freezy, you have a long way back, but the only thing stopping you is in your head. If your reality was strong enough you could be getting girls to inaudibly mumble to you that they love your skinny arms and your big gut while their mouths were chock full of your cock.
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#43
Electric

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Join Date: 07/24/2008 | Posts: 700

FreezeTime wrote:

What do you do if your wingman is better than you?
1. Learn from him
2. Don't be a bitch.
3. Read number 1 & 2 again.
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#44
Stockholm

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Join Date: 03/16/2009 | Posts: 175

I'v had girls call me skinny, back when I was skinny. And not as in "wow that's hot" but more of a "your to skinny to fuck me". Yet I fucked those girls and eventually they said that the fact that I was skinny was hot: after the great sex we had.

It's all in your head, back in school I wasn't the most popular guy - Now I am, what difference has been made? I was a loser back then: why? CAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS A LOSER, ding dong.

If you think your ugly: Hit the gym for THREE(3) months, you can gain about ½ a kilo in muscleweight if it's your first REAL year of training in that time. Start taking supplements like creatine which will add volume to ur body(as a sideeffect by absorbing water) and increase ur results in the gym.

Start getting into "fashion", honestly. People in the states(if thats where ur from) or from most countries, the guys have NO IDEA what's good looking. People have like baggy pants, bad sitting shirts open all the way and fucking crocodile shoes in certain countries  - wtf is up with that?

Get a haircut, get a tan. I can PROMISE you, if you commit to doing all that while at the same time talk to women - you'll see amazing results.

You just have to put in the fucking effort. It's just like personal fitness, people want a magic pill. THE ANSWER IS OUT THERE:
LIFT HEAVY WEIGHTS, EAT ALOT, SLEEP ALOT. But nobody has the "energi", it's the same with pickup: Approach alot, get calibrated, social circle.
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#45

shankar

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Join Date: 08/25/2008 | Posts: 464

FreezeTime wrote:
Sorry for the length of this post.....

1.  My wingman is my best friend.  And where I live, I couldnt find another wingman to come out with me.  He's all I got and he's got a lot of great qualities:  his knowledge of women is unprecedented to me. His ability to hook up would likely rival anybody on this board.  Or anybody's friend on this board.  I'm serious, he's beyond good.  He's beyond great.  If I had to bet, I'd put my money on him everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. 

He recently had the film crew that films the soap opera Days of Our Lives at a recent batchelor party because he's trying to sell it to a television production company  (I would think there is little chance of this making it, but who knows).  He has got so good with women, and he loves sex so much, that about 7 years ago he started his own batchelor party service.  Some of the hottest women you've ever seen in your life work for him and he puts on awesome parties (anyone in NJ-NYC need a batchelor party, let me know, I get *incentives*, if I get him parties!).  He's friends with the girls, fucks all of them, and they all make a ton of money in up and down the NJ coast every single weekend.

I could go on and on about his exploits:  his threesomes, bringing girls to Adult Video Stores and renting movies and watching them with girls while he fucks them, meeting girls at malls and getting them to blow him in a dressing room, taking Vanilla Ice's girlfriend, football player's Willie McGinest's GF, meeting & fucking former(?) pornstar Barbie Brooks, blow jobs from probably I dunno a hundred or so girls with the great majority of them swallowing, it goes on and on....

2.  He's never heard of RSD or any of this other stuff.  He's never needed anything like this.  He is an nPUA.  One of his awesome traits is that he is completely humble, and very sympathic and helpful to my plight.  Knowing him for 15 years, I know he'd rather get all of us reading this laid with him, then just getting laid himself. 

3.  And then there's me.  The opposite of him.  He is 6 ft tall, blue eyes, tan, built and girls love him.  I am 5'5 140 lbs, short, skinny, with a fat gut and women are not interested in me.  They just aren't.  I don't want to argue this with people here, let's just leave it at this, they're not interested in short guys like me. 

Issue:
I've heard too many people (mostly guys over 5'8 or so with no problems with women, of course!) tell me I can have an abundant life too, if I applied.  I really don't believe it yet I'm curious.   While I dont think boards like this are a scam, I believe they are really well-intentioned, and valuable to the guys with the physical traits that women are attracted to,  but I read here as if this was inspirational fiction....a "getaway" from real life, if you will.  I know this stuff doesn't really apply to a 5'5 short and skinny guy that girls go out of their way to avoid eye contact with.  But yet I remain curious in this unobtainable fantasy.

And when I've gone out, I go out with him.  He wants to help me along the way and I know he WANTS TO PROVE TO ME THAT HE IS RIGHT and girls can be attracted to me...but the same_thing_happens_every_single_time.  The girls show him 100% of the attention, ignore me completely before I can even get a chance to keep them from ignoring me and despite his good intentions, all going out with him ever does is prove even further that all of this stuff simply isnt applicable to guys like me.  It DOES NOT WORK.  Girls ARE NOT ATTRACTED to short, skinny average guys.  Not when they have my friend to compare me to.  Are you kidding me?  I dont even blame the girls, either.  I would too if I were in there place.  I would ignore me too.  It gets annoying actually and eventually I start internally getting pissed off AT the girls who are ignoring me.

The problem with his opinion, despite the fact that he YELLS at me that I don't know anything about women is his opinion is coming from the eyes of a 6ft guy that girls physically look up to and are instantly attracted to.  He's right that I may not know what women want...but after 35 years I at least know a little about what they DONT want:  short skinny guys like me.  We are like fat girls to guys.  We are the ultimate turnoff to women. 

If there is any chance of reversal of fortune, do I need to find a different wingman....one who is shorter/closer to me or stick with my buddy?  With him, I have the chance of at least being in the company of beutiful girls and I fear if I change anything, I remove that possibility.  But with him, it just seems to cement what I already know:  girls have absolutely no interest in me. 



Dude STFU and get your mindset right man !!



Watch this guy. He is well known in community. He bangs 10's. I am not kidding. Ask anyone in the community about him. He is hardly 3 feet tall and in the wheel chair. If he can pull then thier is no fucking excuse that you cant. I am 5.3 myself.  I bang bitches that are way hotter . Its all in ur beliefs man, Change your fucking beliefs now.

Love

Shankar
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#46
GreyMatter

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Join Date: 12/17/2008 | Posts: 408

Stockholm wrote:
I'v had girls call me skinny, back when I was skinny. And not as in "wow that's hot" but more of a "your to skinny to fuck me". Yet I fucked those girls and eventually they said that the fact that I was skinny was hot: after the great sex we had.

I've had 2 girls telling me I'm skinny and I've fucked them.

I'd hang with OP's wingman anyday of the week, he seems like a great guy who knows his shit. I'm sure he is a lot better looking than I am aswell, but if he really is that humble and willing to help, that is something I appreciate a lot more than a little bit of competition.
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#47
TimothyObryan

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Join Date: 10/07/2009 | Posts: 5

Hi there.

Personally, I think FreezeTime just put this post out there to see how hard we would try to make him see the error of his ways. I honestly think this guy has no real problem, he is just janking our chain.

If, however, you are being sincere Freeze, I have a suggestion for you. You seem to be of the oppinion that the material presented here is more of an idealized take on reality, a fantasy if you will. Whatever your attitude is, I am about to make things very real for you. Here it is: If I were to put a loaded gun to your head with the intent of blowing your brains out, if you didn't do what I told you to, I guarantee you that you would see things differently. I don't mean it in a metaphorical sense, I would without flinching end your life then and there. I would then use the threat of death to make you approach and talk to 100 chicks per day for 2 months. Being able to approach and talk to girls doesn't necessary get you laid, but that's where you start. How different would you be after those 2 months? A lot different.

I can make arrangements for a 2 month project, so just tell me where you live. I'll come by, free of charge. And here is the upside: If you fail, you won't have anything to worry about anymore. Great, isin't it?
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#48
sinan

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Join Date: 07/11/2007 | Posts: 1909

this is completee bullshit

its all in your head.

1) you want to believe this because you enjoy feeliong sorry for yourself you get a nice feeling of self pity to compensate you for putting your balls out there and actually just being yourself and going out.

2) I have tons of friends who are about 5 foot 8 and get tons of girls..Its all about how much belief you have and how much of a man you are and how well dressed you are, and the social skills you have.

3) Ive always been good looking but not always as strong mentally as I am now.. I used to get some attention but thats it..In fact they could usually tell I was a shy boy who had no self belief maybe a bit cute..not the "I dont give a fuck" Loving bad boy I can be considered now. and Im still nowhere near being complete in my transformation.

4) Look for evidence that people your height can get laid..believe me they can.
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#49
Entrepreneur

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Join Date: 11/04/2008 | Posts: 278

Hey I had this problem once,

If theres any way you can stop focusing on it that would be helpful.


Maybe try to see it from the chicks point of view.

If you are hanging with 2 chicks your going to be more attracted to one.

Same with if 2 chicks are hanging with you and your buddy, each one will be more attracted to one or the other.

So if 4 people are hanging out, have good time and Isolate.

If she finds you attractive, yall can hook up.
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#50
Brisken

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Posts like these grow tiresome.
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