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July 20th, 2017
What do you do if your wingman is better than you?
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#11

BloodmoneySWE

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Join Date: 06/07/2009 | Posts: 799

Ive seen guys with superficial shortcomings who could get alot of girls...

ive known a small asian guy who fucked five chicks in a weekend (no kidding.) Most of them where from different countries as well. He was the real alpha male above the other alpha males of his circle (he always talked to EVERYONE. he was this outgoing extreeemly social type.) and a complete natural, so there was no doubt he could do something like that.

In that example i think he also had alot of social proof to his advantage, but he also consistently fucked other chicks.

About your wingman, i think the answer to the forum topic question is... LEARN FROM HIM. Dont be jealous, LEARN. Se it as opportunity!

I also known a skinny skeletton guy who Im sure could get chicks. More of a aggressive type guy (even tho he calmed down with age lol) but he had some alpha traits.
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#12

Bones

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Join Date: 08/18/2008 | Posts: 250

FreezeTime wrote:





Ryan® wrote:
How many cold approaches have you done in the past month?

None...but let me ask you.....how many times do you need to try to add 1+1 to get an answer different than 2?   You know the answer is two.  I know what the answer is.  This isnt rocket science and I think we all may be overthinking what women are attracted to a little bit.  Look at your picture.  I dont look like you.  If I'm a woman, I see me and I see the typical guy on the street, Im going for the typical guy.  Much bigger, stronger, better looking.  Thats what I want, not the shrimp.  Cmon. lets be honest here.

And how much time have you spent wallowing in self-doubt?

It's frustrating but its reality not negativity.  I simply wasnt blessed with what women want.
I'm old(er), short, skinny, average to below average looking, a gut, and I live an hour and a half from my friends now.  None of that is NEGATIVE thoughts.  All of it is REALITY.




Are you blaming the world for being skinny and having a gut? Fuck you man thats your fault not the worlds. You only think Ryan is goodlooking cause he gets women if he couldnt get women you would probably be like eh hes okay looking. Seems like you want us to confirm that you will fail at this to protect your "im not good enough" reality cause honestly i think your just scared of trying to change.
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#13

Bones

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FreezeTime wrote:





Ryan® wrote:
How many cold approaches have you done in the past month?

None...but let me ask you.....how many times do you need to try to add 1+1 to get an answer different than 2?   You know the answer is two.  I know what the answer is.  This isnt rocket science and I think we all may be overthinking what women are attracted to a little bit.  Look at your picture.  I dont look like you.  If I'm a woman, I see me and I see the typical guy on the street, Im going for the typical guy.  Much bigger, stronger, better looking.  Thats what I want, not the shrimp.  Cmon. lets be honest here.

And how much time have you spent wallowing in self-doubt?

It's frustrating but its reality not negativity.  I simply wasnt blessed with what women want.
I'm old(er), short, skinny, average to below average looking, a gut, and I live an hour and a half from my friends now.  None of that is NEGATIVE thoughts.  All of it is REALITY.




Are you blaming the world for being skinny and having a gut? Fuck you man thats your fault not the worlds. You only think Ryan is goodlooking cause he gets women if he couldnt get women you would probably be like eh hes okay looking. Seems like you want us to confirm that you will fail at this to protect your "im not good enough" reality cause honestly i think your just scared of trying to change.
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#14

Van Damme

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w-w-wait, you think a different wingman is where to start a change? Whats that going to do for you, you can get a homeless person as your wingman. Is that supposed to make you look better?

You are skinny with a belly?? Then hit the fuckin gym, theres your place to start a change.

Then watch this video and hopefully it all becomes clear to you. You can better yourself. Or you can keep searching for the perfect wingman instead of the perfect women, cus once you find the right wingman he will help you get laid a shitload.
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BONER

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Join Date: 10/09/2009 | Posts: 11

 My friend mike seaver used to get all the girls whie i was a laughing stock. Now who's laughing bitch, now he's a born again christian asshole and I'm getting the pussy. That's right, BONERs finally getting some love. Just give it time OP
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#16
BONER

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 Just look what that chump Mikey is up to these days... fucking chump time yo... BONERs on the case, the case for real pussy, while this homo suckin bananas in the ass holle.

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#17
besserwisser

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Join Date: 07/28/2008 | Posts: 3090

I would really reread Ryans answer because it sounds honest and real to me.

Maybe the frustration you feel is much harder because you go out with a fucking good looking, strong man. Do you ever split up when you go out? Of course if you approach with that guy in set he will get the looks and the attention.

The guys here have a good intention and tell you that you must step up. It's hard to compete against someone with good looks and some game. But you can be better! Read Ryans answer.

Also you can work on your body, join a gym and talk to a trainer about how to gain weight/ muscles. Tom Cruise is short as well btw. And did he care when he wanted to become an actor?
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#18
Powerhouse

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Join Date: 06/22/2009 | Posts: 1711

 dude, you're straight trippin, have you seen dudes like johnny soporno, steve P, even the tall skinny magician himself, they're all fucking weird looking dudes, seriously take a good look at tyler, he's not a bad looking guy but you're not gonna see him modeling for Calvin Klein anytime soon, he's just an average looking dude that's comfortable with who he is

one of the things that really vibed with me in the blueprint was when tyler says (paraphrasing) "i'm not cut from any different cloth that you" we're all the same, we just like to think we're different because it makes it easier to rationalize our situation instead of just being present and accepting the way things are. Once you can value yourself someone else is going to value you as well. Everything you've talked about is addressed in an article or two on this site.

Seriously man, I'm a college student and I spent a month in rehab recently and my first day out I saw a cute girl in starbucks, talked to her for 2 minutes and got her number, texted her later that day since it was thursday (drinking day) to see if she wanted to chill. We hung out for 2 hours and she blew me in my car when I dropped her off at her place. What did I talk about? I talked about the most interesting stuff that I'd gone through recently, rehab. Meeting people that committed heinous crimes due to their addictions, talking about the horrible consequences I'd seen people relive while I was there, talking about the brotherhood that got built from bonding over these stories. She saw the passion in my eyes from what I was talking about. Did it concern her that I was in rehab for a month? Fuck no. Did it concern her that I looked like a junky (I'd gotten my arms torn up by needles from being hospitalized after going into shock from dehydration)? No. Did it matter that I'm overweight, was unshaven, had unkempt hair and the only furniture in my room was a mattress? No. What sucked her in was the complete and honest passion I exerted when I told these stories. The fact that I didn't give a fuck whether or not she judged me because I was in rehab, that I was comfortable with the choices I made (one of them being a conscious decision to change my life) let her feel comfortable around me.

I'm annecdoting too much. In short, love yourself, because if you don't, why should anyone else?
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#19

Manolara

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Join Date: 06/06/2009 | Posts: 128

 The OP had that 25 page long thread where everyone kept giving him all this great advice and he just downplayed everything and acted the same way as he is now. 

Freezetime: You do not need to tell us that this stuff does not work, we have used it, experienced it, and made our own conclusions. Your belief of this fantasy land is our reality, and whether you want to see it or not is up to you. You've had so many people give you advice and try to help you. Not only do you have to do this for yourself but do it for them who where in a similar situation but with the help of others improved their lives and in turn help others like yourself. 

You say 2+2 will always equal 4 and compare it to what people say and how things are.
Richard Bransons teachers said he would not amount to anything and would most likely end up in jail. Abaraham Lincoln constantly was bankrupt and lost elections for a seat in the senate. Michael Jordan was cut from his high school basketball team and was the 3rd picked in the NBA draft. Nick Vujicic who was born without arms or legs was told by doctors that he would not be able to do anything let alone stand up, though he did. 

Ask yourself, who is really prohibiting you from doing anything. Everyone here is saying you can do it and the only one that says otherwise is you. Till you realize that nothing will change. 

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#20
FreezeTime

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Join Date: 05/16/2009 | Posts: 196

xGuyx wrote:
But girls dont like you cuse you are a beta chode, not cuse how you look. You can change that.

Ok, see there is several pages of pick-me-up advice in this thread and a different one that I started recently.  But its all on the internet.  I would love for anyone of you to walk around a mall or a bar or anywhere WITH me and watch what happens.  On the internet, everything sounds good.  But in real life, i'm telling you, I see how girls look at me and guys like me.


Let me ask you this then. if you think it all comes down to looks, then why did i, a good looking guy, never got till i got into game?

Ive said here before I do think this material makes good sense.  In fact, I'd say it makes great sense.  I stumbled upon this whole community by the way about a year ago by complete accident after I was actually searching for porn and found some link to The Game somewhere and it spidered-webbed from there.   I believe in the concepts very much as long as they get applied by the men women can be physically attracted to.

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