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The definition of a Solid Interaction with a woman
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Fingerman

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From my blog http://daveofglory.com/the-definition-of-a-solid-interaction-with-a-woma...

I think lots of guys don’t understand what a solid interaction is. Since it’s not always possible to get laid with the chick right in the moment or sometimes I guess I just don’t have enough “Game”, the only thing you can have for sure is a Solid Interaction.

The most important thing for me

The energy level of the interaction. If the energy is INSANELY low. Such as you and the chick are talking quietly, about boring stuff, you’re not moving much, you guys talking slowly, etc. That would be very low.

The opposite of that would be called High Energy. Example: being too funny, too attractive, too interesting, talking about sex, the girl laughs, touches you, you push her, you tease her, etc. Basically all the things we are told to do as PUAs? Yes that’s what I think, all those things are crap IMO and should be used very sporadically and in the first few minutes only and not at all if you get the chick to like you without them. Those things Look good because the chick is loving you but really she’s not loving you but the energy and emotion that you bring. The next day I think she would most likely remember her night as amazing, but not you as amazing.

So the plan would be to do all the moves in a low energy. So you open really strong with good body language and a smile, but you keep it really chill. You keep the conversation borderline boring. You touch (claw, hold hands, hugs, etc.) just as usual. You lead just as usual which should be a lot. You go get drinks (waters for me), dance (you dance in a chill way), you go outside for a cigarette (even if you don’t smoke, just to chill), you go explore the bar, you go find your friends (and her friends), you go to the toilet (or she goes, you lead her to it and wait while chilling with other people, make new friends if you have to), you do everything together, never leave her. Of course she will need to hang out with her friends and other guys will hit on her and stuff will happen. Just chill and let her be, but keep an eye on her and whenever you have something to tell her just go get her and you guys can chill again.

It will be REAL for her, and for you

If you do this you should be making out within 20 minutes-1hour and it will be REAL. Why? Because she was in her normal state of mind, and so were you. She was in the same state of mind (almost) that when she wakes up in the morning. Why? Because you didn’t boost it with your crazy energy and fun. There won’t be a point where the energy goes lower and it feels weird for both of you and she leaves because she comes to her senses and realizes that this feeling was ephemeral and not real. Of course it looks good to be making out with a chick in 5 minutes and making her laugh until she jumps on you. But I could never make those high energy interactions work for me.

So is that it? Solid = low energy?

This is what I believe. If you have time to lead, touch, firth and have a good vibe and connection then it will be even more solid. If you extract her out of the bar it will be even more solid. If you sleep with her it will be pretty freaking solid lol.

So I don’t understand, won’t it be boring if I’m being low energy and talking about boring stuff?

There’s 2 scenarios:

1. The chick loves you from the first 5 seconds and you can just chill from start to end.

2.The chick needs some time which then being interesting, fun and high energy is quite good and you should definitely do it. As soon as ou have the chance to chill and lay back I would jump on it though because up to now I don’t think the interaction was real nor solid.

What about after when it’s time to chill? Won’t it be boring?

I’m a pretty freaking cool guy. I have an interesting life, I’m funny, I’m good looking. I will say something funny, sexual and interesting every 5-10-20 minutes for sure. I actually have to tone myself not to be too funny or interesting because it blows myself out. Even if I’m just self amusing the chick thinks I’m trying to be cool and doesn’t work.

Also realize that every time you touch the girl, you move her around, you lead her, every time you don’t react to a comment or an event (friends interrupting, tools stealing the chick, your own friends being retards, etc.) the girl’s energy has a Boost. Every time you tell her she’s beautiful or that you really want to kiss her or that you lead her to the bar. Boost. So in my everyday life there is enough energy boost. Actually too much. I’m sure it’s the same for most guys here actually.

One last thing

I think most guys are so addicted to feedback from women that they can’t do this. Realize that if the interaction is low energy the girl will not be laughing, touching you, telling you you’re funny, intensely qualifying herself, etc. She will be doing some but way less and PUAs just assume it’s not on and peace out. THIS IS NONSENSE. You need to be able to chill with the girl for 20 minutes+, keep your “It’s on” mentality (If you lose it, she loses it), even if she doesn’t give you any intense feedback. My proof is look at couples. They love each other. They f–k each other. Yet do you see them being high energy and teasing each other and giving each others feedback? No. They look bored as hell all the time. Often barely speak. Do you think you have more chance with his chick just because you can roll up to them and make her laugh and makeout with her?

People are boring… if you boost the girl’s energy she’ll feel amazing. She’ll be funny, her best self… But the next day when she just feels normal, or even 2 hours later when it’s time to leave the bar. She’ll just feel like her old boring self. And you can’t just keep boosting the energy and make her laugh. It’s not a long term strategy. The girl finds out at some point. She comes to her senses.

One tip: If you’re comfortable with the girl, always be holding hand or touching (kind of like petting a dog lol). I mean like a constant thing, not always going for the touch and pulling back. I mean always be in physical contact. Make her touch you too. Put her hand on your leg and stuff like that. This will make a low energy interaction very smooth because since you are always touching there is no disconnect. You guys “know” you like each other, so there’s no need to prove it with words and laugh and everything else. You and the girl don’t even have to ping at each other to see if it’s still on because you are touching. It protects you and the girl from doubts about whether it’s on or not (It’s always on).
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thats good shit man. Thank you
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Fingerman

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Thanks. I know I write in a really bad way but whatever lol I'm French.
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One1

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Really simple and natural, I dig it, thanks man.
Just wondering, didn't Ryan or some instructure  post something about low energy gaming and every now and then throw in some high energy stuff or something?
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This post is spot on. It is the transition from dancing monkey guy to sexworthy guy. Chill slowed down vibe with touching and leading is the best way to close.
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Aamir

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 Super solid post. 5*'s. Thanks.

Reminds me of a post I read by Ryan ages ago. I found it here on rsdnation - http://www.rsdnation.com/node/77963. Hope you find it useful.
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Fingerman

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Makes sense, Ryan was my instructor and he pretty much told me all this stuff.
Aamir wrote:
 Super solid post. 5*'s. Thanks.

Reminds me of a post I read by Ryan ages ago. I found it here on rsdnation - http://www.rsdnation.com/node/77963. Hope you find it useful.


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 awesome! great bump.
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Smirnoff

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Gold mate. Solid gold. I don't think most of rsdn understands this at all. The brilliant part is that with this approach, if you don't get the girl the same night it leads to a solid phone number. Not some flaky piece of shit that high energy gets you.

And if the energy is really dropping its EASY to pump it up quickly from the chill. It doesn't work the other way.

Since doing this from bootcamp my game has rocketed. I cannot recommend chilling out enough.

Awesome mate :-)
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Waus

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great stuff, this came up with me and my friends last week, he said that one of the things he had learned in succes with women was not to be all in the picture and high energy but just being cool and relaxed
with the chick. 
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pringles

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you beauty
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