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December 7th, 2016
all this pickup and self improvement stuff
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slickrick2131

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Join Date: 08/24/2006 | Posts: 76

with  all these rsd programs,online forums,  then theres all these books  you need to read(eckhard tolle, david deida, etc) movies, other programs etc,,,, does anyone feel like it never ends and you spend all your time doing this stuff  and you dont even have time to put it into place or your micromanaging or it gets you inside your head thinking about what you should be doing. I mean the blueprint takes 2o hours aproximately, thats a whole day of your life and if you watch it a couple of times, then all the books it takes a few hours atleast to go through and all you want is more information. Its almost like a trap you get yourself into, and you get cut off from the real world. I dunno does anyone else feel this way?
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JohnG

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Join Date: 05/06/2009 | Posts: 748

And All these things will make you worse at being a social, cool, fun, attractive guy. I mean RSD is   awesome and most of their advices are spot-on (specially OZZIE's and Tim's.. Tyler is brilliant but so inside his head that he puts me inside my head)

BUT essentially chillin out with people,going out , having fun Will put you in a better headspace to be an attractive person.

And :

Pick-up  IS NOT  self-improvement.
Pick-up IS just about having fun.
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a.morris

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Join Date: 08/17/2009 | Posts: 55

If you merely read all the books then they will make you worse.  But if you apply the principles outlined in the books then you should have no problem being social. 
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Deft

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It all comes down to having fun for me nowdays. If you adopt having fun in your life and GO OUT, then you will get many reference points, for a more advanced understanding and correction on what you could do better theres the blueprint.
All of the other self help stuff is NOT for pick up, It is for your life, to improve it, to live!.

Good luck.
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Jack of Hearts

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for me those things were necessary to get from a level of suck to a level of normal healthy human being. if you're sick you have to take your medicine to get better. once you're better you can just enjoy your life. now I don't look to those books as something that's going to save me anymore. I can make my own decisions now. I still listen to eckhart tolle though every now and then to remind me of the principles, and from time to time I read through way of the superior man, because it will always be a very useful guide to life, no matter what stage you're at.
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WhiteCat

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Oh man, I felt like this for some time about 6 month ago...And I know how to easely escape from this "trap". 
Stop reading, stop watching, cut the shit and GO OUT.  You dont need so much information, bro. Coz if you apply the principles from at least one book or one programm it would be enough for succes.
Pickup is an adventure, times of your life..Not a rocket science you have to study. 
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Dr.Dish

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The Blueprint is so amazing, I really wish there was a TL;DR version, so I could revisit it easily.
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Tyler

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Join Date: 08/20/2006 | Posts: 8738

What you're referring to is sometimes called a "trap of striving".

Also, generally progress will look something like this. First you learn about this stuff and you're all excited. EPIPHANY!!

The first bit of progress comes quickly and easily (getting girls to show a bit of attraction, getting people in general to look to your opinions because you seem sure of yourself, or whatever). This makes you think "DAMN if I stick at this, I could get the full result!!"

So you start to obsess over it, read about it, etc. It becomes a passion and then an obsession.

Eventually you hit a point like where you're at now: time to stop THEORIZING it and start LIVING IT. If you're like most dudes, you'll do this and it will be a sort of "next level". That's because it gets you out of your head, and makes you a more "natural" type of dude. You start enjoying social interactions for the fun of it, rather than trying to "make progress".

From there, if you're like most guys, you'll eventually "fall back into old habits" over a few months. This happens for a number of reasons. First, because all the old social conditioning that you were previously exposed to in your day to day life comes to be more a part of your reality than the new "group think" you were exposing yourself to, and since you haven't learned to "see the world through your own eyes" completely yet, you get sucked back into it.

Beyond that, many guys get into a "frame snapback". What happens here is that they've taken on a new IDENTITY (a guy who people love) and new BEHAVIOURS (more outgoing, confident, assertive, etc), but then they come to believe that they should be able to retain the identity of people loving them, without having to maintain the behaviours. That being the case, they slip back into their old behaviours, and get confused why people (particularly hot women) aren't still confirming their new identity as an awesome guy.

So then this goes on for a while, and if you're like most guys, you first go into denial, where you grumble about how pickup is for losers and all that shit is so try-hard and lame. Then after a while you realize that it was actually benefitting you in a lot of ways, and you get back into it.

Except now, you've hopefully matured a bit and gotten past the guru worship phase, and you're able to work on it from a perspective of how it benefits you, as opposed to being a co-dependent fanboy who looks to other people to teach him how to think. From that point, again if you're like most dudes (at least the ones who succeed--and who happen to take an interest in this area), you'll get to a point where you make this an ASPECT of your life, not your entire life, and you'll continue to make progress with it as time goes on in a healthy way.

All this is a natural and normal line of progress.  Most of the guys I know who are successful went through it.  Most of the guys I know who are UNsuccessful stopped at a certain point, and made it their end point.

Tyler
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Different Cloud

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Quality, top drawer post and answer TD!
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Rich~

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Yep I think Tyler nailed that one...

One more thing that I've noticed  (in myself) is that sometimes we avoid changing what REALLY needs to be addressed, especially if there's a few things that you have focussed on that have been easy for you to implement and that get you results.  You get comfy with that and don't feel like going the last mile, because it's uncomfortable and feels like a step backwards...  or perhaps kid yourself that you need more advanced BP concepts, when really you just need to get your mouth moving for 20 mins at the start of the night consistently, for example embarrassed
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