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December 10th, 2016
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AdamVanWildest

AdamVanWildest

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Join Date: 02/28/2009 | Posts: 493

I open a lot of sets, talk to a lot of girls, but because i'm not attracted to most of the ones I talk to, I don't kino escalate 7's and under.  So when I meet a 8+ I do what I always do with the 7 and less... i talk and have a good time, and It takes a while before I turn on the harder kino escalation.

So tonight, I'm in a 4 set, mini isolated with my target and she is totally into me, body language IOI's, puppy dog eyes, but THEN, about 5 minutes into the interaction, a switch was turned, and I lost all IOI's and were replaced with IOD's.  

*What I did wrong - I didn't take it sexual enough, I kept telling stories and entertaining until it turned her off,

* What I will do tonight - Escalate quickly with everyone I talk to, show love, show kino, take every interaction to a near makeout, and every 7+ chick, just make out with them for the hell of it.

She was a 23 year old law student from Kentucky.



I did recover, still had fun, might hit them up tomorrow and go out with them, but i think instead i'll find some new girls and get a little crazier tonight.
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Ozzie

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it is a very common thing. escalate all girls but sleep only with those you want. then you get to your hottie you have built an escalation habit.
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Matt~

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Yeah happens to me a lot too. Once you start going for the hottest women you have to remeber to treat them the same as the 7s.

Last night I had this gorgeous french/italian girl into me, massiv IOIs after 5 mins and I her friends left me with her for around 10 mins but I didn't go for it. Friends come back and poof gone..

For me a lot has to do that I never got these hot women so I'm thrown off when they are massively into me and so quickly. I don't escalate as quickly as with 7s.. They have a lot of value that's why you try to play it safe instead of playing it how you know you can..

I think though that all of this will fall in place with more experience with the hottest girls..
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Hank_Of_Sweden

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Yeah, I think you should escalate on every girl in some way. And don't kiss the girls you don't want but be a man that always has kino. It makes ALL interactions with girls better and more heartfull.

And also don't forget to "play to win" and not "play to not loose" with the hottest girls.
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AdamVanWildest

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Ozzie wrote:
it is a very common thing. escalate all girls but sleep only with those you want. then you get to your hottie you have built an escalation habit.

yeah, very true, it just took me until last night to recognize it.  tonight I will go out and escalate everyone and work on making this skill set a habbit, then i'll post here and talk about the results.
*kino everyone
*smell hair, bite neck, esko kisses, peck on lips, make outs

thanks ozzie
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AdamVanWildest

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Matt~ wrote:
Yeah happens to me a lot too. Once you start going for the hottest women you have to remeber to treat them the same as the 7s.

Last night I had this gorgeous french/italian girl into me, massiv IOIs after 5 mins and I her friends left me with her for around 10 mins but I didn't go for it. Friends come back and poof gone..

For me a lot has to do that I never got these hot women so I'm thrown off when they are massively into me and so quickly. I don't escalate as quickly as with 7s.. They have a lot of value that's why you try to play it safe instead of playing it how you know you can..

I think though that all of this will fall in place with more experience with the hottest girls..

Thanks for your feedback matt, but what is happening to you is pretty much the opposite.  I treat 8's + the same as 7+'s if you didn't read.
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AdamVanWildest

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Hank_Of_Sweden wrote:

Yeah, I think you should escalate on every girl in some way. And don't kiss the girls you don't want but be a man that always has kino. It makes ALL interactions with girls better and more heartfull.

And also don't forget to "play to win" and not "play to not loose" with the hottest girls.


thanks hank,
to win, i think you must have goals...... a lot of times when I go out, I don't really have a goal, so its hard to know when I'm winning.  I made some goals tonight, we'll see how it turns out, i'll do my best to play to win, which I may end up going for a few hail marrys instead of sneaking into field goal range, fuck ties.

PS:  What part of Sweden are you in?  I lived in Karlskoga the last 2 summers, 2007, 2008
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AdamVanWildest

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Chaos A.D. wrote:
Why did you live Jacob with the less atractive girl? Why do you care about IOIs in the first placre? And how come you didn't close that bitch? She is gorgeous. Not closing that seems a little faggy.

Why did you live Jacob with the less atractive girl?
I don't know what you mean your talking about here...please elaborate if you want a serious answer

Why do you care about IOIs in the first placre? It helps me with calibration, always has, way before I knew there was a term for it.

And how come you didn't close that bitch? I needed to show stronger sexual intent and go for the pull.  This was around the 15th set we opened that night and unfortuately we had an opening challenge, with a 3rd guy newbie, and we each had about 5 more sets to open that night.

She is gorgeous. Not closing that seems a little faggy. I live in Vegas, gorgeous girls are every where
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hexen220

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that is acually one of my sticking points right now as well!!
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Matt~

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AdamVanWildest wrote:



Matt~ wrote:
Yeah happens to me a lot too. Once you start going for the hottest women you have to remeber to treat them the same as the 7s.

Last night I had this gorgeous french/italian girl into me, massiv IOIs after 5 mins and I her friends left me with her for around 10 mins but I didn't go for it. Friends come back and poof gone..

For me a lot has to do that I never got these hot women so I'm thrown off when they are massively into me and so quickly. I don't escalate as quickly as with 7s.. They have a lot of value that's why you try to play it safe instead of playing it how you know you can..

I think though that all of this will fall in place with more experience with the hottest girls..

Thanks for your feedback matt, but what is happening to you is pretty much the opposite.  I treat 8's + the same as 7+'s if you didn't read.
The point I was trying to bring across was that the reason you did not escalate on her was not because you didn't do it on 7s but because you felt somewhat hold back to access the imprint of you who goes out and takes what we wants.

If you felt that raw sexual attraction and you were in a high value imprint there is no way that you would not have escalated on her.

I was merely looking at causes for this.. :)
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Hank_Of_Sweden

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Aaah nice! I live in Gothenburg on the westcoast.

Send me a PM if you drop by sometime! :)

Cheers!
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