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December 9th, 2016
My adventures in Toronto
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eagles_dare13

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Join Date: 05/03/2009 | Posts: 58

I have been doing salsadancing for quite a while now taking in the advice of the guys here. And it is very easy to pick out the salsa newbie girls , teach them moves and get closer. So far it is good. Grinding becomes very easy when you know the moves better than them.

The problem is this--after around 3 songs of intimate dancing, as soo as i try  for the EC<,she turns her face away. I used to think this was part of her token resistance, but no. no matter ow many times I would try for the EC, if she is sober, she just wont look at me and i am basically making eye contact with her cheeks the whole time.

it's frustrating to know that so many kcloses are slipping away like this. I have read a lot of FRs on dance floor kclose and it seems the other guys dont have thisprob. what am i doing wrong?
Last night i kinda went for the kiss without the EC and lo and behold, I got slapped.

I am taking a BC with Ryan in toronto in sep. For newbies, is there any pre BC homework I should be doing so I dont look like an idiot on the BC?
I do go out 2 - 3 times a week to dance clubs and dance floor game is my only game. I go solo always btw.
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Gunn

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Join Date: 04/28/2009 | Posts: 526

try kissing her on the cheek  a couple times all affectionate and wht not
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eagles_dare13

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I will try that. Thanks.
Also, is there a way you guys can explain the laser EC in words? Do you stare hard? or just look with expectancy? And doing it too early is real impossible for me...i have tried it many times, as soon as she looks back with the 'Why are you staring' look, I laugh under the pressure.
One more thing is that my SOIs always fall flat. I say things like your shoulders are sexy and to that they just laugh. I know SOIs are not meant for reaction seeking, but after they laugh, how do i continue? seems so silly to keep escalating when all you are getting back is a 'That was cute...thanks' laughter.

Help is appreciated superstars.
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Synyster

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b4 u start dancing with them you can open them like this. This is how I'm starting to do it. I grab their hand, lean in close making EC and whisper in their ear that I think they are sexy/cute etc and that they have to come dance with me. It lets her know whats up and will make it easier for you to escalate. When dancing put your hands all over her, have her feel her body and your body. Make it sexual fast.
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eagles_dare13

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Today was Mon..and I checked out a new salsa club. The crowd was ok for a monday..a bit older though. and most faces are known so it is more of a friendly vibe in the club which is nice for socialising but not so great for pickup.
I dance with a few...get annoyingly sexual vibes from a dirty cougar and grind with two cute sisters. and here is the thing. I often notice thatwhen the girls are clsoe to me and they are in my arms and i am staring (laser EC??), they start to fidget and giggle. as soon as i whisper something like 'i am going to kiss you now' they laugh and pull away and keep dancing.it happens all the time.what isa good comeback? try again??? wel, usually after i do this, they wait for the song to end and then politely excuse themselves...

What I am doing wrong.Should I be more dominant?more dominance in a club on a weeknight whre everybody can see everybodyelse is very awkward for me.
What kinda game do you ppl run on weeknighs where the club is not so packed? most FRs here refer to big clubs on weekend nights. I think its a different vibe altogether....

Will post more soon.
The leap from the grind to the kiss is turning out to be very frustrating.

Cheers,
Kaushik
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eagles_dare13

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Oh, btw, the dance floor technique that Brad once mentioned where you put the girls' hands on your chest and start rubbing is a hit. It produces a nice response.And it seems it is almost rude for the girl to reject such an escalation.:) .Although i didnt get a makeout with this yet.
Thanks Brad.
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Fuck it, go for the kiss weather or not she gives you interest. Man up, if you get slapped then fuck it. If she just turns away, go for the kiss again and again and again.
As Ryan told me on BC this weekend the girl is either infront of you or she is not, when she is infront of you do what the fuck you want.



As for preparing for BC, just push every interaction to the fucking fullest.
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Most of my dance floor makeouts happen by; either me stopping what im doing for a few seconds and just sort of staring at her eyes and lips if you get what I mean. Or I just gently grab her chin/cheek and kiss her, no need for some obvious statement, that never seemed to work for me, I got a lot more regections that way as it was almost like I wanted their approval instead of just assuming that they want me to kiss them. Hope that helps :)
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eagles_dare13

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Thanks guys.
I believe I really need to see this in demo to understand the whole 'I do not give a damn what ppl think of me ' thing. How can i not give a damn when everybody is getting weirded out?how do you not give  a damn when another girl sees yougetting slapped?
I hope the BC will provide these answers.

Cheers.
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Don't tell them that you are going to kiss them.  That makes it awkward.  If you do it and your not already moving for the kiss, it also seems as though you are asking.  When I'm dancing with a girl I've found that it is much easier to laser eye them until the tension is too much, then just take what I want (a kiss).  If you go in like you are gonna make out, then only peck and pull back they will maul you.  It's awesome.
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Synyster

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Dude ill see if i can get some infield footage. No promises though. ive been debatin on a while to do something on dancefloor.
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