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October 23rd, 2018
MEGAPOST: Happiness is your default state
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#81
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Join Date: 01/13/2012 | Posts: 67

 I came to yhe realization that the point of life is to just HAVE FUUN FUN FUN FUN FUN a year ago . i was 17. its after watching all that david and echarttolle .. i just realized it on my own

I'm mad and happy at the same time that other dude has the same thoughts 
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#82

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Fagottry:

The beast lived then and is now stronger than ever.  A new revolution has begun.


 [=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, 'Bitstream Vera Sans', sans-serif]i actually had a basically identical epiphany about 8 months ago. mine came about not because of any tranquil experience, but actually a traumatic one. i was intent on self-improvement to the point where it was making me miserable. there was really no joy in what i was doing. it was actually something i read by Sam Harris at the time that flicked the switch at the time and made me realize "happiness is our default state", and constantly chasing one ephemeral goal or pleasure after another was inferior to just enjoying your life in the present. [/]

[=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, 'Bitstream Vera Sans', sans-serif]when i internalized this it was like a huge weight had been lifted off my shoulders and i basically did nothing for about a month. i just chilled out, and truly legitimately enjoyed life, vowing to never again chase after success in that way again. well the funny thing that happened after about a month of really living with this mindset was that i started working harder than ever. only this time, i was actually enjoying and loving the work because i TRULY was not outcome dependant, having realized and lived the fact that one could be happy as a default state (this also helped me internaliae the zen concept of focusing on the process, not the outcome, although that I am still struggling with that completely). i was working not because i wanted fame or skill or money, but because i loved doing it and it was just a natural extension of who i was (when i say working i refer to my art/freelance work, going to the gym, etc).[/]
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#83

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MOST AMAZING ARTICLE I N THE WORLD

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thanks Ham bro
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#84

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 Great post man, It's eery how when we do this shit right, we ALL hit this happiness default state. I hit it about 6 months ago. Freakin' nuts!

Forgetting the self... I'm n ot sure about that. We shouldnt lose our moral compass man.
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#85

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#86

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#88
MatthewFreeman

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Thank You Thank You Thank You!

You just summarized so much of my experience over the last 6 months or so. I've been on the edge of this realization 3 or 4 times so far, and every time it felt so good at first, but I always ended up running back to "working on myself" for fear of slipping back. Worrying that the epiphany I kept having over and over was really just my inner chode trying to find an excuse to stop trying. I've been struggling to reconcile the fact that learning game changed my life in so many positive ways with the fact that I don't need game. 

Just a few days ago I wrote this post: Purpose Doesn't Need to Be SO Lofty - Find Purpose Without a Goal

You can tell by the tone of it that I'm just starting to see it but I was still having trouble knowing what to do with it. I was toying with the idea that "maybe I don't need goals" but I wasn't really certain. Your post has really reinforced this for me and clarified a lot of what I've been struggling with so THANK YOU so much. 
 
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#90
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This is a fucking amazing post, wow.

I was completely on the same page with OP until this:
The reason you exist is so that you may ENJOY the play with forms that constitute the material world around you. Development, core confidence, reaching your potential, are NOT end goals. They are a means to creating a richer life experience! Confidence is useless unless you APPLY it in your life to have bigger adventures! It all comes back to your subjective experience. Not some concept that you carry around, such as "pimp" or "confident" or even "happy" (in its conceptual form). It's all about the concept-free experience.
OP perhaps failed to see the irony in his argument for concept-free experience.
Let me make a more nuanced point.

There is no "reason I exist". That's not a thing in the universe--there is no collection of atoms or pattern of neural activity in my brain that constitutes an objective "reason I exist."
I can, however, say what the "reason I exist" is--that's because it's a verbal/cognitive construct, and all of our brains are built to make those. In this same way, there is no "self."

For me, it's not all about enjoyment. It's not all about concept-free experience. And I've had them both. I know what that's like. It's great.

My purpose is bigger than me. My goals are bigger than me. I am trying to become something that I am not right now. I am willing to sacrifice happiness and adventure in the present moment in order to achieve all this--to some extent. You can and will judge me however you want. I don't care.







 
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