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Handsome's Story Part I: Dawn
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Handsome

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Handsome's Story Part I: Dawn


Introduction

The following field reports are a collection of my first year infield practicing and applying what lessons I picked up from RSD, life and many, many interactions with women from multiple countries. Over the course of a year I tore down many aspects of my personality and rebuilt myself with core confidence and personal responsibility. This journal presented a solid, accountable tool that helped me to go out and start taking action. I wrote down the highs, lows and everything in between to shed as much ego as possible and humanize myself. I wrote it for me, but you are welcome to take any lessons from it.

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July 18 2009

I approached 10 girls in the day with direct game. I was fucking nervous at points. I remember rehearsing my few lines for the direct approach before, and it seemed so straightforward and easy. However, as soon as I stepped into the mall, there seemed to be no perfect scenario at all. The problem seems to be that everyone is rushing from place to place with an intense look on their face, no one wants to stop. Out of the ten approaches, I got one phone, number from the girl who was probably the second best looking, and was closest to my age. I approached probably 15 women total, but the other 5, I would say “Hey” and they would give me this frightened/intimidated look and turn away. I learned that the more attractive the woman, the more open she was to me talking to her. The three most attractive women were the three I had the best conversation with. The most beautiful woman was probably about 35 or so, but absolutely loved the fact that I had the balls to approach. She was laughing and smiling and almost denying it to herself that this was actually happening. The other attractive woman used the boyfriend excuse, which I played off as “we don’t have to tell him” we laughed, but she was steadfast. Overall, the approaches went well. The successful interaction followed the same approach, but the girl was attractive and close to my age;
Handsome: Hey, you look adorable and I had to meet you
Her: (blushes)
Handsome: What’s your name?
Her: Ashley
Handsome: Nice to meet you Ashley, I’m Handsome. Listen, I only have a minute, are you adventurous
Her: Um, a little I guess
Handsome: Are you spontaneous?
Her: Sometimes
Handsome: Do you want to be more spontaneous?
Her: Yea… I guess so.
Handsome: Good, we should hang out, you have email?
Her: Yea
Handsome: (pulls out wallet and “finds” piece of paper) Here, write it down.
Her: (scrabbles for pen in purse and starts writing)
Handsome: And write down your phone number as your writing.
Her: (finishes writing) Ignore the messy handwriting (giggle)
Handsome: We can work on that, I’ve got to go, see you later Ashley
I learned that I should approach subtly and in a more friendly and personal manner. I learned that the more attractive woman are more open to approaches. I learned I should show impersonal body language and not face head on.

I went out tonight and approached around 20 sets. I started out feeling pretty shitty and tired, and a little beat down from my day game, but I manned up enough to go out. I am fucking glad I did. I was on tonight, really in the flow state. I approached with a pretty friendly opener or situational opener the entire night;
Handsome: (high energy) Hey, are you guys having a good time tonight?
Group: Response
Handsome: Why aren’t you on the dance floor partying it up?
Group: Response
Cut to cocky comment, or random question. I basically asked pretty straight up and normal guy questions and then waited for some bait that could let me launch into cocky comedy, a cold read, or a future projection. I felt a little weird at first, like I might have been back tracking by using this opener, but it went so well that I feel I still learned a lot from my experience. Tonight I really started to plough through. It worked so well. The first girl I opened actually knew about The Game and gave me some tests which I just passed off like they were nothing. The rest of the time, for the majority if the groups, as long as I kept talking, someone was interested. I noticed that for the majority of the people, I could get a fun conversation going about some random topic, but I now additionally need to work on moving to that next step. I got close to a kiss with one of the more attractive girls I approached, (she didn’t resist, but I think she needed more from me, plus isolation from her friends). I learned the importance of ploughing and how it can break through the initial defence. I learned I need to learn how to escalate from the initial conversation. I learned a lot of guys will just look like tools while I game girls and have a good time. I noticed more body language tonight and the way that girls would turn their bodies and lean toward me. I was very aware of the fact that many girls leaned in to hear me or came very close to me. I need to work on locking myself into the group, escalating and approaching groups with hotter girls and more guys. I also started to notice a bit of pupil dilation in a couple of the girls I was talking to. This fact made me notice that I don’t generally consciously focus on eye contact; it just seems to happen, which is great. I also noticed that I occasionally adjust my body posture to a more dominant pose, which is a great sign I’m self monitoring. I learned the importance of infectious emotions; I can override girls’ responses by projecting a positive, fun vibe. I learned that I need to include sexual undertones to make my intent visible, or else I’m all fun, but no real game. I also learned that I need to qualify myself less, I sometimes came off as trying to impress other people. I also had a funny experience testing touch, I talked to a girl about her tattoo for 30 seconds asked her if it hurt then started talking about nerve fibres and how much are in the back of the neck, than told her give me her neck and pulled the back of her hair. I had to go right after, but she absolutely loved it.
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Nice stepping up mate.
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Thanks for encouragement.

July 24 2009

Tonight I went out for about four hours and did about 30 approaches over the course of the night and two different locations. I used a couple general openers: “How’s your night going?” or “What are you celebrating?” From there I would listen to the response and keep plowing waiting for the group to give me material to build attraction with. I think the overall structure was sound but the majority of my sets didn’t seem to ‘hook’. I felt like I was giving a lot of value and the group was giving very little in return. I tended to eject when I had completed my initial opener and talk bit. I would chat for a while, even get the girls or group talking about how they met, what they were out for that night or even laughing at my jokes and teasing, but I seemed to miss the point where I was ‘part of their group’. I know my time constraints need a bit of tidying up. My best set (a three set) looked like this:
Handsome: (high energy) Hey, how’s your night going guys?
Group: Response
Handsome: Why aren’t you on the dance floor?
Group: We just got here
Handsome: I see, (points to drinks) getting some courage before you really throw down out there
Group: (laughter)
Handsome: So how do you guys all know each other?
Group: Response
Handsome: (tease/cold read/thumb war)
Girl 1: What’s your name?
Girl 2: Are you from here?
Handsome: Guess etc.
This was followed by some more routine attraction stuff but then fizzled down to fluff and the conversation stalled after a while followed my ejection. I’m pleased with the length of the interaction (5 minutes) longer than most cold approaches I’ve done so far. However for the majority of the interactions I’ve had I feel I might not be escalating or not escalating fast enough. I was also pleased when I approached a group for the second time with the same opener, got a negative response from the girl (“why are you asking us this again?”) but plowed through had a decent interaction. I learned to push interactions longer. I learned that I need to stay in sets and test my limits before ejecting. I need to learn how to approach with higher status and how to effectively escalate. I need to learn to approach with more sexual intent and not overdo the ‘fun guy’ appearance. I need to self-monitor my body language, voice tone and eye contact more in the field. I need to learn how to quickly transfer into the sexual attraction stage and make it hook. Also most importantly, I need to know where to look at myself and how to improve, I often am confused about what exactly is throwing me off or why I get blown out quickly sometimes.
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July 26 2009

Approximately 20 approaches tonight and this time, and one phone number. I felt especially good tonight because I was able to approach consistently with a high energy level without completely relying on my state. Sets opened and for two or three, the interactions stretched five minutes or more. One of the highlights of the night was when I approached a woman and had a fun vibe going with her. Turns out she was a teacher;
Handsome: You’re a teacher, what grade do you teach?
Teacher: Grade 4, in the Philippines, blah blah
Handsome: You only became a teacher to eye up younger men… like myself
Teacher: (gasp)…(laughter) What’s your name?
Handsome: I’m not answering that question Mrs. M, I know what you want… and I’m not giving you my number either…
On from there, very fun interaction. The other great interaction I had was at the bar and girl nudged up beside me to get a drink. During this process, I got her phone number, but I also discovered a GREAT twist on thumb wrestling ;
Handsome: Whoa whoa whoa, who gave you permission to touch me?
Her: (laughter) I’ll do what I want
Handsome: That’s it. Outside. We are fighting. NOW
Her: (laughter)
Handsome: I tell you what, because I’d kick your ass in a real fight, we’ll have a thumb war, give me your hand.
Her: (sticks out hand) Wait what rules are we playing by?
Handsome: Well, first we bow (thumbs bow), then kiss (thumbs touch)
- at this point I accused her thumb of making out with mine
Handsome: (cheats and wins at the thumb war) you owe me a drink
Her: YOU CHEATED blah blah blah I want a round two
Handsome: ok, but if I win, you owe more than just another drink
Her: (sexy eyes)
- this time when we initiated the thumb war I accused her thumb of sexually advancing on mine an being a sexual predator. I then called her thumb a and teased her because her thumb liked me. I basically used attraction material on her thumb in a fun sexual manner with touch which worked MAGIC.
Overall the night was a success. My approaches went generally well, any rejection I got was easily ignored and my interactions lasted longer on average. I still have a fear of opening up the super attractive girls, but I know I’m making progress bit by bit. I added a little bit more of a sexual edge but I still have a long way to go to get the entire effect I want. I learned that I need to practice approaching groups with hotter girls and get comfortable interacting with the guys who surround them. I need to work on improving my process to get longer interactions with more of my sets. I need to work on qualifying, venue changing and being more sexual physically. I need to escalate faster and be pushing the set.
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July 31 2009

Went out for a couple of hours and approached between 15 and 20 sets. Two went very well, lasted for 4 to 6 minutes with some attraction built in, and noticed some IOIs. The majority of the sets were short, lasting only as long as I kept talking. I’ve noticed that I might have too much energy at points. In order to get out of my head I talk really quickly and with lots of smiling and a high energy. I might have to tone this down a bit to be able to get a sexual vibe across so I don’t look just hyper. Only a bit though.
I also realized that most attractive girls are surrounded by guys (no shit right, but it took me getting used to being in the club to start to notice the social groups around me). It was a blind spot to me previously, I was just opened any set that was nearby, but now I’ve noticed I was unconsciously avoiding the more beautiful woman. I seem to have this ‘level’ of woman that I am comfortable with or feel on par with. I pushed that limit a bit today, but I am sure my insecurity came across.
I was more physical and sexual with one of the better sets. I opened well with a ‘are you checking me out?’ which set the frame for a more sexual interaction. It went well, but I didn’t push it anywhere, partially because I didn’t know where to go and partially because I was nervous about stepping out of my comfort zone.
I learned that I need to conquer my fear of being rejected by my advances. I don’t mind that I sometimes get blown out during the approach, but I need to get comfortable escalating. I also need to hold a more dominant frame. I have trouble trying to balance the two sides of the interaction: the nimbus state and the sexual intent frame. I guess only experience will make me comfortable enough with one or the other to be able to move focus to the next stage.
I learned I need to push interactions longer to get the experience, I can plough, but I need to move to create a vibe and become part of the group. I learned that I need to approach the hottest women in the club, even if surrounded by guys to learn something and to just become comfortable in that situation. I learned I need to tone down my hyperactivity just a bit so people can actually relate to me rather than just be amused by my energy output.
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August 1 2009

Tonight was fucking great.
It was my first night of going out COMPLETELY alone. I was arriving with no one, meeting no one and knew no one. At my house I was out of state and tired but I promised myself I would go out do a minimum of ten approaches (even though it always ends up more).
I hop on the bus and slap myself into state immediately opening the guy beside me who barely spoke English. We chat and I open the three set of girls across from me.
Handsome: Where are you guys off to tonight?
Girls: (gay bar)
Handsome: You would go to (gay bar)
Girls: (laughter)
We chatted for a bit, I got some IOIs, but after some chit chat I actually realized they were lesbians, which is why they laughed when I teased them.
Hop off the bus and walk over to club. This place is pretty ideal for practice, it’s a club linked with a bar and another club so you can hop around and change venues pretty easily. As I enter I realize that I am WAY too early. It’s only 11:15 or so, the place is pretty quiet. I talk to the bouncer; apparently it gets active around 12:30, 1:00. Fuck it. I head in. BOOM. Chat to the bracelet girl, laughter, joking and I’m off.
I toss a couple off drive by ‘heys’ to the groups in booths as I head to the bar (chodely, I know, but I recovered). I grab my drink and return to one of the table I said hey to. BOOM. Open, entertain, joke. It goes well and this time I have the balls to pull up a stool and sit down, even with no false time constraint. We chat; I’m mainly using this group to warm up. No one is asking me to leave, everyone is fairly comfortable, and I’m focusing on one girl in particular as the others carry on conversation. Some kino, some future adventures projection, etc. After a while I sense the group is growing uncomfortable (catch some minor girl code) and so I excuse myself and head to the next booth.
This set was AWESOME. I arrived right at the time the girl was standing up to let someone else out of the booth. I shout at her for purposely blocking my path and pretend to make a big deal out of it. She takes it as a joke and I ask how her night’s going. I do some teasing and some fun stuff. Her group of friends starts staring at me so I introduce myself and continue chatting. The guy friend leans over to me and tells me she has big breasts and I should ‘go for that’. I politely laugh and continue talking to her. I do some kino, which is great, I hadn’t been escalating in the past, and start qualifying her on the fact that she spoke four languages and knew a lot about a location I was traveling to. I sit down with her and get her number. Nice. We chat about shit. Then the guy friend pulls her over. I wait seven seconds. Then I loudly excuse myself and go start chatting to another group.
Over the course of the night I approached about 20 sets. Some of the great things that happened were that I approached some sets with really hot girls, approached more mixed sets, got three phone numbers, escalated and kino’ed a little out of my own comfort zone, I toned dfown my energy for the most part so that I was social, not hyper (still had one or two sets ask if I was loaded or what drugs I was on), I also ploughed my way to a number which was SHOCKING.
Handsome: (tap and girls turn to face) Yo guys, how’s your night going
Girls: (shrug)
Handsome: Are you serious? Where is your energy, what is going on here?
Girls: (look at each other… shrug)
Handsome: You guys are unbelievable, I can’t believe you’re here watching the dancing and not down there yourself.
Girl 1: Why aren’t you dancing?
Handsome: Because my skills would dominate anyone else’s here, I don’t want people to feel bad. Are you guys even 19?
Girl 1: Yessss! I’m 23
Girl 2: How old do I look?
Handsome: We’re not going down that road tonight. Hey (to Girl 1) stop checking out my ass!
Girls: (laughter) whattttt, I’m not doing that [anyone else notice how much girls draggggg words out?]
This continued for a while. A lot of the time I got little or no response or just a shrug but I kept going and ploughing and eventually I just looked at Girl 1 seriously in the eyes.
Handsome: What’s your name?
Girl 1: Tiffany
Handsome: (pulls out cell phone) Tiffany (types in name and hands to her)
Tiffany: (types in number)
Handsome: So anyways…
That interaction shocked the fuck out of me. It was basically the 90/10 upgraded to 99/01 and the girl still gave me number. Bizarre…
Overall, it was a great night; I went out alone, no support system and had a great night. I learned I need to escalate and create more sexual tension. I learned I need to hook stronger or have something that keeps the girls there. I can create initial interest and fun, but I need to learn to have the interaction continue successfully. I am becoming more comfortable in the club atmosphere, I wasn’t so high energy to compensate for my nervousness, and I was able to bring a cooler, more relaxed and fun vibe to the table. I learned that I have made progress. I’ve now done between 100 and 150 approaches since the start of my story…
…The best is yet to come.
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August 2 2009

Today was my second day using direct game during the day. Already I felt the massive confidence change from my very first time. Although I didn’t successfully number close, I was pleased with the fact that I was way more comfortable than before. The first two key lessons I learned was to have a more effective comeback for the ‘I have a boyfriend’ excuse. Second thing was maybe stretch the conversation out longer before I ask for the number. For the majority of the approaches I noticed that what I was saying just seemed too far out of the girl’s reality. This was evident on my last set. I stopped a brunette with ‘Oh my god, you are so adorable, I had to meet you.’ She was so shocked and taken aback that she just started at me, laughed in disbelief and then hurried off with a dazed look.
Since this was my last approach, I circled around top the escalator and by chance, she had circled around the other way and we ended up with her riding down behind me. I reopened:
Handsome: Couldn’t get enough of me the first time eh”
MILF: (blush, laughter)
Handsome: Just had to chase me down and check out my ass again didn’t you.
MILF: (laughter) Of course!
Handsome: Yea, I know girls like you.
MILF: You do, do you?
Handsome: Better than you think (BOOM! sexual tension THROUGH THE ROOF)
MILF: (eye contact, then glance down)
Handsome: Just promise you won’t follow me home
MILF: (laughter) I promise
The escalator ride ends and we go our separate ways. I suppose I should have tried to number close at this point... always be closing…
As I write this, it seems kind of eye opening for me as I re-examine my memory. I learn that I need to somehow communicate my intent and have them come into my reality not just be stuck in utter shock and disbelief. I need to learn to keep a longer conversation going based on a direct opener. Another cool thing I learned was that after I had finished my 10 approaches using direct game, I went to the bus stop and opened the people there, just being social. Now that the pressure was off, I flowed and ploughed and was the center of attention. It was almost like being in state because I wasn’t requiring anything of anyone; I was just glad to be social and relaxed. I can see how this attitude can feed into my real game and improve it.

Tonight was a major stepping stone in my beginner game. This is my third night out in a row, followed by day game approaches. My night had a slow start, I was out with my roommate’s social circle, all who are very friendly towards each other, as much as I tried to capture the leadership of the group, they were just not having it. After a couple hours of that I was DYING to get to the club. We arrive a bit early, just as the club is starting to heat up. I walk in – BOOM. Open the first set.
Handsome: What’s up guys? How’s your night going?
Girls: AWESOME (frenzied energy)
Handsome: Nice! High fives all round!
Girls: (high fives and excited squealing)
Handsome: What are you guys doing here so early, you’re the only ones on the dance floor… but I like your energy
Girls: (laughter) blah blah blah…what’s your name?
Handsome: Guess…no….Handsome, what’s your name?
Girl 1: (Cowgirl) *important
Girl 2: (Cheerleader)
Went into normal game from there and it was fantastic, these girls were in party mode and basically competing over me, at one point, about two minutes after walking into the club, I was teaching them how to hug the proper way (heart to heart) and having them compete for my attention (four in all). It was great and really pumped my own state. I excused myself to walk around the club and open some more sets.
Throughout the night I opened between 20 and 25 sets. Most went pretty well, had a decent interaction, just kind of worked the club and was being social. There were several interactions of particular notice. The first was kino interaction. I’ve been inching myself out of my comfort zone for kino escalation and I was having some great kino building with this girl to the point of hand around the waist, stroking on the arm, fun stuff, girl got distracted, but no problem, I wasn’t particularly interested, just practicing.
Second interaction was my first real ‘confrontation’ with a boyfriend. I was walking and opened a really cute girl standing in the group. I asked her how her night was going, offered value, was having a good time and got an enthusiastic high five back from her etc. I turn to the guy beside her and offer my hand out.
Handsome: Hi, I’m Handsome.
The guy stares at my hand then at me. We lock eyes for about five seconds. I lower my hand.
Handsome: Excuse me, you’re in my way to the bar.
I step past him. What a fucking prick. Luckily I’m in state and un-phased I immediately open a group that just came in from some accountant pub crawl. Goes well, decent long interaction, the girl is shocked and impressed I can keep talking for as long as I do.
I open a few more sets etc. etc. run into old sets, re-open, fun inside jokes, then I see cowgirl and friends again. I swoop in.
I had already bounced back and forth with this set a few times over the night. Cheerleader had actually coming and interrupted me in a set by rubbing up against me and pawing me down as I was talking to some girl about sex ed classes. We also had some sexually charged dancing at one point during the night.
Anyhow, I jump back into set and whip out my phone, I type in Cowgirl’s name and hand her phone: She is impressed.
Cowgirl: Look how smooth you are.
Handsome: Look, do you know how to type?
Cowgirl: My fiancée wouldn’t like this
Handsome: I’m not looking for anything long term either
Cowgirl: (shock and awe)
She types in her number, as she does, some random fucking dude shows up says hi to her and then starts pulling my shirt up from my waist to my chest.
Handsome: Um, what the fuck are you doing?
Random Guy to Cowgirl: He looks nice, but where’s your fiancée?
Fuck, Cowgirl get’s distracted, Random guy dismisses himself. I grab Cowgirl.
Handsome: (grabs hand) Let’s go
Cowgirl: Where?
Handsome: Outside, I need some air
I lead her right out the door
Cowgirl: Where are we going?
Handsome: Follow me (links arms)
We walk together across the street and then up a hill a little while until we reach this small clock tower that is close to the bar, I help her up the stairs and we are at the base of the clock tower. As I walk her over I do some deep cold reading to see if I can cut the fiancée out of the picture.
Handsome: Let me see your hands (grabs hands) interesting, you have rings on both your ring fingers [she is planning on getting married] my friend has a theory about certain rings for certain fingers.
Cowgirl: Really, how does it work?
Handsome: Do you really want to know, it’s pretty deep.
Cowgirl: OMG, tell me!
Handsome: Alright, well the rings on your ring fingers mean mainly this: You generally follow a structured lifestyle and follow rules most of the time. But underneath all of that, you have a lot of spirit and energy waiting to be released. [referencing her upcoming marriage, and that she should be adventurous with me]
Cowgirl: It’s like you know me
Handsome: (lol)
We’re sitting at the base of the clock tower and I’m holding her hands. She’s nervous her fiancée is going to find out where she is. I tell her to relax. I start triangular gazing and talking softly about how we will have to tell other people we met somewhere other than a bar.
Cowgirl: Oh no, no, no, don’t give me those eyes!
Handsome: (triangular gaze)
Cowgirl: My fiancée, we should just be friends
Handsome: (stands up) Thanks, but I have enough friends.
Cowgirl: Nooo, sit down
This kind of interaction continues for a while until I get fed up and tell her I’m taking her back to the bar. We walk back and as we arrive, Random Guy leans out and grabs her arm.
Random Guy: He’s looking for you
Cowgirl disappears inside and I re-enter, open a set or two more and then retire. Disappointing end, but on the positive side, much farther than I’ve gone with any set before. My very first isolation of a girl and also three numbers from the night. I’ve learned to be just a little bit more comfortable with kino (still need to push more, but a good start), I learned that I should either open the guy in the set first, or ignore him while gaming the girl. I need to learn how to push through that kissing resistance. Again, I still need to carry more sexual weight when I communicate and learn how to escalate farther. I can open and build some attraction, get some touch, but I need to do it with a sexual element.
I need to make my intent clear.
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August 8 2009

Just got home from a serious night out. It’s exam time and I’ve been awake since 7:00 AM and studying for my finals which I have every two days, but I still managed to squeeze in some quality time to practice game. Tonight was my first club makeout… with a SMART and GOOD LOOKING GIRL! Back in the day when I got drunk all the time and just went to clubs because I thought I ‘supposed to’ I’d occasionally sloppily meet lips with some other drunk girl who I couldn’t see through my haze of alcohol. This was the first night I’ve opened, attracted, vibed and qualified a girl and then made out with her.
Over the course of the night I opened about 15 to 20 sets. The major growth points were the fact that my sets lasted longer; two or three were 20 minutes or more! I picked up two numbers, one of them who is desperately trying to make come to her hometown with her (I leave for Calgary in a couple of days – so a no-go there). What really is bizarre to me is that I enter into the club, go up to a random group and just say: “Hey, how’s your night going guys?” and I just kind of take it from there. I sometimes get resistance, which I can plough, and I still get blown out occasionally, but I’m feeling very comfortable with my general approach. When I get into the next phase of attraction, it starts to get messy, I am good at projecting a fun vibe, teasing, using FAPs, and some other attraction material that comes to me, but as I get into qualification and vibing, it sometimes tends to fall apart. The girl tends to get distracted when the fun vibe gets too close to ‘rapport mode’. I’m not sure if this is a sign to build more attraction or to escalate more sexually or both. In the future, I will focus on trying both. As with my previous posts, I think I need to make my intent a little more clear.
Another new sticking point I have is what to do after the makeout. My interaction with this girl went along like so:
Handsome: Hey, how’s your night going?
Her: Ummm, it’s okay
Handsome: WHAT? Where is your energy at? Get into the mood!
Her: (glances at friend) We’re going to (she takes shot some random dude bought her and her friend)
Handsome: What are you drinking there?
Her: An apple pie
Handsome: You are such a GIRL
Her: (laughter)
Handsome: You don’t respect guys that buy you drinks do you? Like it’s kind of weird – “may I purchase a beverage for you?”
Her: (laughter) OMG, that is so trueeee
Handsome: (tease, thumb war, make her buy me a drink, high fives, FAP etc.)
I introduced myself to any of her friends that came by, as soon as they entered in I befriended them and dominated the conversation. Her and her friend start getting ready to go dance, so I eject first, telling them I’ll meet them later. I immediately open the group of girls that she said she didn’t like to build a jealously plotline and demonstrate my level of comfort in the environment. I then take off for a while, open more sets, work the club and later I re-open her group. I do some teasing, then I move into some deeper stuff talking about how people have different layers and what she wants to do when she graduates etc. I do some heavier kino, wrap my hand around her waist, give the back of her neck hair a grab and pull and talk about human touch. Her friend shows up and says the girl’s bathroom has flooded so we have to move. I grab her hand and lead her to the closest bathroom, her friend goes in, I look at the girl I’m interested in and take both of her hands. I tell her that she is different from the other people I’ve met that night and that we’ve really connected. I pull her into me and we start to make out.
Now, my question is, what do I do now? We made out, I broke first, we vibed some more, made out again and then chatted. She was never much of talker over the night. I had caught her playing with her hair or cell phone and teased her about liking me and she actually admitted that was the reason for the nervous fiddling. Her friend gets lost and so I give her my arm and we attempt to find her, but no luck. I drop her back where I left her and kiss a bit more, take her number and leave the club. I wasn’t sure how to go about attempting to pull her home. I wasn’t so much nervous about attempting to escalate, I’m just confused about the course of action I should be taking.
Over the course of the night I learned that I can attract good looking girls but I need to focus on my window of opportunity and being able to escalate faster. I learned to stay at the club longer. I became more comfortable entering a club environment alone. I pushed my sets longer than I ever have before. I have to keep my vocal projection loud even later on in the conversation. I need to plant an idea in the conversation to be a reason to return to my house. I need to learn to know when to go for the kiss earlier – I swear there were windows of opportunity before, but I was either too unsure or afraid of rejection to escalate. I had my first hot club makeout, with a smart, pretty and sober girl.
Nice.
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Handsome

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Join Date: 07/17/2009 | Posts: 272

A few things that I forgot mention in my haste that have now occured to me as I think about my night:
The game can feel good, and not just from the ego validation I get with when I use a technique with success (had a great multi-thread scenario tonight). When I kissed the girl, a gigantic and genuinely authentic smile spread across her face. She had been kind of distant for most of the interaction and this brought us so much closer together. It made me happy to see her happy, even though we only shared a fun connection in a loud night club. I also got a rush of alpha dominance as I was leading her around the club and guys leaned in to hit on her, but I pulled her through and close to me brushing off these other guys, some bigger, some better looking and some more well dressed.
When I began this story a little while ago, I was worried that learning this material might take any fun, spark or connection out of my interactions with women and my interactions would be entirely mechanical. Now I've started to realize that game just gives me more times to have those great moments and the better I get, the more chances will come along.
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Join Date: 07/17/2009 | Posts: 272

August 12 2009

Today was my first day 2. I met up TalentGirl, who I had met at [club X] last Saturday. We texted the Sunday after we met, and then today I phoned her and told her to meet me at 4:30 in front of [mall X]. I told her that she would be my shopping companion for me buying new shorts. I arrived yet minutes late, but she wasn’t there so I texted her:
Handsome: Where you at?
TalentGirl: Traffic is bad im almost there
Handsome: You can tell me the truth, I know you’re stalking me from somewhere.
TalentGirl: No im not. A little something you should, I never drive in hali lol I hate it
Handsome: Don’t test while you drive! You might run over a baby!
TalentGirl: ha ha I was stopped, but I did almost hit a biker
Handsome: You are baddd news, I’m not letting you drive me anywhere.
TalentGirl: Ok im on the street now I gotta find parking
Handsome: Don’t get lost
TalentGirl: Ok I just parked I think I know where ya are. Be there in a min!
She was late, but I teased her about being a bad driver and I don’t think I lost value by sticking around. We store hopped between a few nice places. This girl is very passive, I was basically just cracking jokes, teasing her, amusing myself and having a good time. She giggled consistently, but I got very little feedback from her. After shopping, I told her I was hungry and brought her food shopping with me. We walked around the store, same routine, I teased her asked her what she liked, and got something else. We walk to her car, I direct her to my house. When we get there, I start cooking my meal and tell her to pull up her music on the internet, I listen to it, we chat, I tease, we have a bit of deeper connection, I start to flirt a bit more and get more heavy into it. This lasts about 30 or 40 minutes. We move into the bedroom to listen to some music I have on my laptop, I take her and tell her she is tense, I make her roll over and start giving her a massage. Her cell phone is ringing off the hook. I turn it off, she gets mad, I tease her. I do a lot of kino escalation and touch.
Handsome: (takes her hands) Come here.
TalentGirl: Why?
Handsome: Come closer.
TalentGirl: (leans in) What?
Handsome: (leans in 80% of the way)
TalentGirl: (blush, giggle)
We start making out, I split us apart.
Handsome: You are bad news.
TalentGirl: Whattttt?
I lean in and escalate a bit more; she is nervous, giggling and fiddling with her hair. We make out some more and I run my hands over her legs and arms and along her neck. I gently push it a bit farther.
TalentGirl: I have to go
Handsome: I know, go (still making out)
This lasts a little while and then she actually has to go. I’m bummed, I don’t want to look needy and try and get her to stay. So I get up and walk her to the door. Just before she leaves, I try my first ‘wall slam’ and make out with her a bit more. She smiles and engages but is on her way.
Afterwards I’m feeling mixed emotions. I’m disappointed I couldn’t make it farther but I’m pleased with myself for making it this far on first day 2. I’m now actually really bummed I’m leaving Halifax and moving to Calgary because I think this could have pushed this farther. One of the things I noticed was that she as constantly smiling and giggling nervously as we made out. I got the vibe that she as nervous and insecure about herself, whenever I forced silence to build sexual tension, she would ask a silly question (omg, you have twoooo fridges?) or nervously sing under her breath. She had a boyfriend for the past three years. When I told her I was leaving on Friday, she seemed very disappointed, like our relationship wouldn’t be able to go anywhere. I thought this would be good (no social judgement) but, of course, I have more to learn. I learned that I need to escalate faster, again I think there were many windows of opportunity that I could have leapt on much earlier. I also need to learn to deal with girls who are passive, shy and don’t reciprocate very much. I get the feeling I should be more dominant, but I don’t know how to deal with the resistance I get from them. The greatest thing was that I was extremely nervous at the beginning but was able to get comfortable virtually right away and have a good vibe going back and forth (mostly work on my part, but still effective). Hopefully I can be more successful with my next day 2. After she left, I received this text:
TalentGirl: Thanks a lot for today, I had fun :)
Handsome: I know. Don’t be thinking about me all night.
TalentGirl: I won’t :p
Another day…

Tonight I was out again, it’s been 10 days of waking up early for exams and today was the last. I approached between 15 and 20 sets. Tonight my energy level wasn’t quite there. It was obvious in the first couple of sets I opened. I didn’t have the same flow that I usually create when entering a club. I was in state for a little while over the night, I almost got a number in under 30 seconds by accusing a girl of being too drunk but the friends pulled her away. This was a major sticking point for me over the course of the night, I opened sets well, generated some energy and maybe a little bit of attraction but the friends would impatiently pull the girl away. I found that I need to entertain the entire group, which I can do only for brief periods, or to isolate and focus on one girl quickly. Another success of the night was a rapid kino escalation. I saw a girl and her friend FROWNING at the bar so I came in with HUGE positive intent, gave her a high five, then a hug to cheer her up. This girl went from depressed to jumpy and excited. Lo and behold, her friend got state pumped too and dragged her away to dance. I might be missing something critical that is causing this reaction from friends. I noticed a backslide from my previous success, which, after reading George Leonard’s Mastery doesn’t bother me so much. The progress he describes is along the lines of two steps forward, one step back and then plateau, I feel I pushed a limit and I might be settling into a plateau. On the other hand, I think I still have more to gain here. I was exhausted and so might not have been at my best, but I’ve noticed I usually can only be gaming steadily for two to two and half hours. Last Saturday I was out for maybe three hours and that was my most successful night. I need to push the envelope more ands stay in there… or at least bounce to another venue after talking to many of the girls in the club. After a good sleep tonight, I’m out again tomorrow to stay later and push myself a little bit farther.
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Join Date: 03/02/2008 | Posts: 21

Cool dude,

Keep it up! You'r doing good, just remember to use numbers you took and set more day2s.
And the most important thing is which helpedme alot: "as you feel, she feels", I became more sexual with girls in a first few mins.
Talking about turbo girls I quote someone from rsdn:
"Minus some very minor external stuff/ super hot girls are NO DIFFERENT than very average looking girls. The rules of attraction STILL apply. And they are not any more stuck up/ superficial/ bitchy or anything else you might associate with a hot girl if you present yourself as a high value guy. Honestly, if hot girls react to you negatively/ it's because you are not demonstrating enough confidence or high value. Once i realized/ that hot girls are not special/ pedestal worthy/ and generally speaking not even 1% worthy of getting excited/ nervous/ flustered around ---- my game shot up 10,000 percent. Once I realized I was the prize/ and not vice versa everything else self corrected thru some field expereince/ calibration and reference points."

And keep pushing yourself further and further, out of your comfort, success will come.


Domas
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