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L0renz0~

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Join Date: 05/26/2008 | Posts: 192

So I took a bootcamp with Ozzie in London (june 26-28, report on bootcamp => http://www.rsdnation.com/node/124447)

I made a commitment to myself and Ozzie to go out 5 times a week for the next 3 months.

Every night I go out I must approach at least 5 sets (so that's 25 sets a week, 100 sets a month).

I always went out a lot before bootcamp + I have 3 months of holiday now so this should be no problem!

In this thread i'll keep you guys posted how I am doing in this adventure!

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MONDAY, JUNE 29

Actually I planned to go out 28th of june aswell (night that I returned from bootcamp) but my train had a delay + I was exhausted (maybe an excuse)...so I didn't

Monday I went to a party organised by a fraternity (it's different than in the usa, it's like a regular club night here). It was in a place called "Club Cabane", I went there with 12 friends (most of them we're really wasted because they had been drinking hours before). This club was really small and there we're some people I already knew. My anxiety level to approach was kinda high because everyone knew eachother and the place was really small, so if I was rejected I couldn't "hide", these are all excuses to not approach, I know but that's how I felt back then. I talked with guys and girls I already knew, danced, had fun.

Friends kept texting me to come to this other party in a much bigger club "Red&blue" so around 1.30am I went to the other club, 2 friends from Club Cabana came with me (one of them was alex, who took the bootcamp with me).

I started to get a bit stressed cause I still haven't approached by now! In the other club the party was on big time and I liked it (although I have a long way to go to be a masterpimp, I'm already a party guy 100%). I see this girl biting her nail and I open her, I told her to stop doing it because it's really addictive...I introduce myself, she does the same, we have some small talk then a friend drags her away.

I walk around, open a second girl. She had a waver (like this japanse girls, or women with a corset back in the days) because it was really hot in the club. Had some small talk, ran out to thing to say and left while saying something that made no fucking sense at all...I can't even remember what.

I was glad I opened sets, matter the fact that I was 100% sober (I never did that before bootcamp). By the way I only open "fuckable chicks" and a valuable girl/set = opening + introducing + small talk, if these ingredients are included it's valuable.

I thought it was time to step it up a bit and I saw this hot blond dancing on stage. went to her, made eye contact and said "You look really amazing", introduced myself, talked for a while about different topics, she was really responsive and asked a lot of questions too, I did some kino like the claw, she did some kino on me too. After 15 mins a guy comes up and she kisses her, I'm like WTF, she's like "oh this is my boyfriend". Why was she so receptive and touchy when she had a boyfriend, and he was in the club?! I politely ejected her by saying "You have fun tonight".

Oke whatever, next set, Small cute blond dacing with her friends, I go in by telling her she looks really adorable and I just had to meet her. She is really shy I think, maybe she just found it weird I don't know...I introduced myself, she did the same, had some smalltalk, I think she didn't really know what to say. Then her friends gives her the look like "is this guy oke or do I have to rescue you?" she nodds it's oke and i told her I find it funny, "it's like girls have this code between eacother when an unknown guy talks to her"... she thinks it's funny I noticed that. It get's boring, she doesn't live nearby anyway so I eject.

That was it for the night, 4 sets not 5... I was still happy I approached though because I really pushed myself! I still have this belief that it's easier to game in english or in an other country, but by pushing myself over and over again it will dissapear.

Postive things about the night:
- I managed to really push myself and finally approach.
- I'm a more social guy, if I met a friend and there was a girl (or even guy) with him I would often ignore them now I introduce myself to everyone and a lot of people open up if you do that I noticed.
- I was 100% sober all the time.

Tuesday and wednesdays are my "pick up days off" because Antwerp (city I live in) is dead on these 2 days!
From thursday night on I will be in Copenhagen, Denmark but I bring my laptop with me so I keep you guys posted!

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THURSDAY (JULY 2)  - SATURDAY (JULY 4)

Past few days have been kinda FUCKED UP!

Thursday I left at 5 am to Copenhagen (1050 KM drive) with 3 friends. Last time I was in Copenhagen I loved it, full of hot blondes etc.
Now the city was DEAD because of a festival Roskilde (30km from Copenhagen). I asked people in the street and they said all the "young people" were over there.
I thought it couldn't be that bad so we walked around in the city  and we only saw old people, so thursday night was a massive fail.

I thought friday would be a lot better, so I checked out australian bar which was empty (except some guys playing pool and 1 group of fat chicks). I left and went to another club that normally you would have to pay to get in but now it was free (because the city's nightlife was dead because of the festival), so I went in. there were 14 people and 5 of them were girls.

I talked to some people (guys and girls) but nothing special happened.

I couldn't believe this, this city was really EMPTY, it was the worst fucking time in the year to go to Copenhagen. So saturday I went to the parking lot were my car is, I lost the ticket and the guard was a frustrated asshole who wouldn't let me out. I called to cops who said to the guard to let me out, so finally I had my car (I wasted 3 hours on this bullshit with the guard). I went back home (again 1050km drive) and then went out to a club with some friends, but I was pist off because my wing (guy I took bootcamp with) bailed once again. It made me fucking angry, it still does actually cause I thought we were in this together, but he keep making excuses.

So apparantly I'm in this stuff alone, I have a lot of friends but in this stuff i'm really alone, and this was a hard lesson that I learnt today. It really ruined my night, I didn't even approach tonight. I felt like shit because my Copenhagen trip was crap + I can't count on my "wingman", so i'm really alone in this stuff.

Oke enough negativity and excuses written down.

Tomorrow will be a new day and I'll just keep going.

The past few days and tonight might be bad but that doesn't mean the future can't be glorious, so let's start by making it glorious tomorrow!

I'll keep you guys posted!

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 Hey bro, I read your review it was great...

And these posts are good to, its good to see that you are going at it even tho you didnt have the best situations on your side...

One peace of advice, Never rely on your wingman that hes going to come out with you, especially at the begining of your journey, just like O said its a bad idea, Im glad youre still going out by yourself!

I started out by myself aswell, Its the best like that, I was on a mission and I was gonna acomplish it, if someone asked to come along, sure thing, no problem, but I never invited people as I knew shit might go wrong, and if im there bymyself, I know I can pull through without distractions...

To this day, when Im not on BC with O, I will go out by myself! and if not bymyself, I dissapear for like an hour and do my own thing at some point of the night!

Keep at it man!

Peace

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I've been really busy the past week (going out & working a bit), normally from now on I should be less busy so more detailed reports should follow

SUNDAY, JULY 5

I went to the toughest, hardest, most exclusive club in my country. It's called "Carré" and it's really nice. It has the hottest girls, the richest people, it's really overwhelming. Sunday is RNB sundays, I went there with a friend (he's in this stuff too).  Music was great but my night sucked cause I didn't approached, I was so overwhelmed.

MONDAY, JULY 6

I was kinda pissed at myself because I didn't approached so monday I went back to the same club "carré", monday is funky mondays. Again very overwhelming, music very loud, but this time we managed to open 1 big set. Girls were nice, and we talked a lot, in fact we talked too much. We stayed the whole night with this set, we talked for a very long time but nothing happened. At least something more happened than the night before.
Tuesday & wednesday are dead here so nothing to say about that.
THURSDAY, JULY 9

I went to a club called Red&Blue with approx 10 friends. I approached 1 girl, I can't even remember what we talked about although I still remember her name (I'm always 100% sober !!!). Then I saw this girl and she knows who I am, and I know who she is but we never actually talked (yes 3 words 2 months a go). So I went to her,  we talked, some kino, went away, got back, talked, kino... this went on the whole night I got her number and I'm pretty sure she's really in to me. So told me 10 times that we had to meet when she's back from holiday. Anyway she's hot so we'll meet when she's back.

FRIDAY, JULY 10

I went to a club called "Noxx" with some friends. Actually I really hate this club. This club has no soul, I don't feel this club. Normally I don't have a problem to "make a party" but in this club I really have to put some effort in it. Anyway, this friday there was a big party in this club and some friend said it was really good so whatever. I really have more trouble to appraoch when I'm with a lot of friends. We're always standing in group and I'm starting to hate it. So I decide to go for a walk in the club. In the vip section (I'm not vip) I see this girl, really cut, with a really shiny dress. I know who this girl is and she knows who I am (although we never talked to eachother, not even 3 words). 15 minutes later I see her standing in the Non vip section. Oke go, I talk with her, it goes really well. I still have that fucked up approach anxiety but when I'm talking to a girl bootcamp experience starts working. I don't impress her anymore, I'm non validation seeking, non outcome dependent and I'm really able to connect  with the girl and keep good conversations.

So I got her number after good convo and kino. My wing comes in the club (my wing is the same guy from sunday and monday, not the friend who I took bootcamp with). I have this fucked up mindset "I have a hot girls number I don't need to approach anymore". My wing get's frustrated too because we don't approach enough. So I decide to do something to remind ourselves what's at stake here. I leave with my wing and another friend (he knows the community too, but doesn't really care, but he's not a chode). I drive to a strip club with really hot strippers, we go in and everywhere hot naked women. My wing is like "damn I want to fuck this one and that one".

We stayed for 1 hour, good reminder for what's at stake... HOT WOMEN!

SATURDAY (JULY 11) - SUNDAY (JULY 12)

I prefere to go out but sometimes I have to work or else I would be broke. So saturday and sunday I worked in  bar where I work from time to time.

Oke, so 1 week more went by and what did I realised.

- I'm still so fucking scared to approach, I keep avoiding.
- When i'm talking to a girl (if I finally have the balls to approach or by some other coincidence) I do very well.
- All by all bootcamp improved my skills with girls but it didn't delete my approach anxiety and sometimes it's still hard for me to understand that there is no magic pill for this.

Anyway, I'm not giving up, I'll keep going!

I'll keep you guys posted!
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MONDAY, JULY 13

I went back with my wing to that club that scares me. The one called "Carré", actually it doesn't scare me but I feel so small, so not important in that club. It seems like everyone is rich and has a lot of succes. I know it's 100% in my head but it fucks me up a bit.
I talked with some people, including women but it were not really approaches. I'm will keep going back to that club until I feel as comfortable over there as in my bedroom.

THURSDAY, JULY 16

I went with some friends to a club, Red&Blue. It was so fucking hot in there, the airco was broken. We left, went to another club (clubs are free on thursday so we don't really care). We went to Noxx, the line was HUGE. 

You remember the girl I number closed sunday in that same club. We kept texting during the week and she begged the bouncer (who she really knows well) to let me & my friends in but the bouncer said he couldn't because he would get into problems. So we returned to red&blue but it was still way too hot. By the way, the girl left that club and went to red&blue too. She texted me to know where I was but I had already left again. My friends were not in the mood anymore so they went home. I was driving with them so they drove me to my car.

I refused to end an evening like this. The girl texted me she was again in Noxx, so I took my car and went there, she got me in, she even got me a free VIP pass which was really nice.
I chilled with her and her friends (girls) in the vip, we had fun, I'm pretty sure she's into me (duh lol). I'll see her again saturday, then I really have to isolate her.

I had to work this evening (friday) so nothing really happened although I talked to a girl, introduced myself (she was a friend of a friend) and she said to add me on facebook.

SOME THOUGHTS

Some postive things are happening
I still don't approach enough, but I have this kind of master pimp image in my mind. I think it's impossible to live up to it. It's like I have this image in my head how I would like to be but I guess it's a bit over exaggerated, or at least exaggerated in this time frame.
Now I have succes with this 1 girl (actually 2 but the other one is on vacation right now) but I still want to approach and meet other girls. I'm curious how she is going to respond to that when she sees that. Tomorrow I will see her and yes i will be with her but not all the time. This club (Club Local) rocks, I love it there. Girls are so hot on saturday, it's amazing.

i'm going with my wing and probably some other friends too (they are always welcome to join if they want).

One thing I noticed, I just talked about random stuff with this girls, no games, no impressive stuff, just myself... and it seems to work fine lol. That was such a great thing I learned in bootcamp, you don't have to impress girls. I start to realise this more and more.

I'll keep you posted!

L0renz0
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REST OF JULY

Although I don't post enough field reports I still go out a lot and when I'm not going out I work in a bar. During the day I sleep and I work out.

I quit my job at the bar (tuesday is my last day). It's not fun for me anymore, clients are whining all the time, my boss is aggressive when he's drunk and he's drunk A LOT. This all put me in a bad mood and negative state so I just quit. It was for fun anyways, I don't really need the extra cash.

About game,

I fucked up with a girl, I had a real good connection with her but I don't take it further. I have problems to close, or to make it sexual. This happened with several girls and it's so frustrating.
so, first sticking point: to make it sexual & escalate!

At a certain point in the interaction I know I should do something, but I'm always holding back because her friends are there or I just don't know how to make it sexual. After a while I can see the attraction/ interest fade away, I really see it. Boom, game over. This happened several times to me now so I really need to do something about it.

Also I still need to approach more, it's better now than before bootcamp but I'm still not the approach machine I would like to be.

Now, something nice happened when I was working in the bar. The 2 girls & 2 guys come in. The go sit and I make eye contact with the blonde one she looks back, she keeps looking, I smile she looks away, kinda shy I think. Her friend comes to me after a while and asks:

girl: how old are you?
me: What do you think?
girl: 20
me: You' re right!

I go back to work because a lot of people want to order. When the bar is less crowded I ask her why she wants to know, the blonde (she's so fuckable) says she wanted to know and asks me if she can give her number to me. She tells me she's 24!

i'm like sure.

I'm so glad this happened, this crushed my limiting belief that I can't have girls that are older then me!

So I called her yesterday evening (day after she gave me her number) and we'll meet wednesday.

In august my life will be 1 big party because I have no job then.

I'll keep you guys posted
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