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January 23rd, 2017
"Breaking Rapport"-is this what it sounds like?
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PillowFire

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I've been working on my tonality. It's kind of weird, because my mom and other's who are friends of my parents tell me that I sound just like my father over the phone, and my father has a deep enough, authoritative tone. Yet, it just feels weird when I speak or try to project. In my experience, it's become clear that you usually sound weird to yourself because you are hearing your voice from within, and that it actually comes out somewhat differently.

However, I am still not entirely sure how breaking rapport tonality sounds like, so I want to get this nailed down. Here is a video of commander Shepard from Mass Effect for 360 whom I feel has a breaking rapport tonality. I'd like some feed back guiding me in the right direction or maybe just a video or two that have someone speaking in the proper tonality so I can study it.


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PillowFire

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I don't follow.
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Im no expert in this, as ive never hung out with or been instructed by anyone in the community. I would, however,go as far to say that i have an understanding of breaking rapport tonality, and i naturally do it now for the most part when the situation calls for it.

I wouldnt try to project a tone of a badass or a "jerk" like the commander in this video does. That could be counter productive. You dont want to over-use B/R because you will shut off any real "comfort" or 'conection' when the girl is ready. You will naturally not be calibrated when you try to consciously apply it, so just go out there and see what works and fine tune it as you go. You will internalize it and it will become 2nd nature.

 I use it naturally when i meet new people, or when i first get in the convo. Because i dont know them, and im not trying to live up to anything they think about me. So naturally im not seeking anything. But at the same time im a fun guy who smiles and is there for a good time. Once you practice it, it will start comming without thinking. There is just a really fine line, a subtle difference that girls will pick up on sub-consciously, but probebly never consciously realize.

Basically, you know how when you ask a question..and your tone goes up?..ya B/R is the opposite of that. Make everything statement, not approval seeking questioning tonality. Not in a jerk tone..just in a cool tone that isnt seeking anything. You already do this naturally without knowing, when you are in a situation that your subconscious mind allows you to access the right "blueprit".

As far as example, listen to how any RSD instructors talk on any programs they do.  Think Tyler Durden from fight club. Im sure alota other people on here can think of some good examples.,.
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PillowFire

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Anywho, the video is a compilation of funny/badass moments in the game if you chose to go renegade (get the job done at all costs) vs Paragon (do the right thing at the right time). Don't pay attention to that though, unless you want a good laugh. I am just wondering if Commander Shepard is using BR tonality. 
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Here's some heavy duty breaking rapport tonality, use at your own risk. ;)
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PillowFire

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Hahaha good old Gunny Hartman.

Do you have an example of normal, non-drill sergeant conversation breaking rapport tonality? What I'm looking for?
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I know what you want. You come off too rapport seeking right? There's an awesome explanation on Flawless Natural though I think you have to learn that with a teacher (I mean someone who knows how it's done) or just find it out by yourself which is harder.

The difficulty is that you could easily scare away girls if they are not that bitchy, high self-esteem and so on. Give it a try.
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PillowFire

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Yeah ok, but no one has actually posted some video's of someone demonstrating the right tonality (drill sergeant doesn't count). I feel as if it's not that hard, but if I knew what to shoot for, I'd probably pull it off.
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Watch Tim in Transformations. 
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I will let an expert hand the subject.
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