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December 6th, 2016
PRIDE: On my way to Mastery
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LR: Don’t you mind that I am taller than you?

Target: stunning asian HB9. She is taller than me (easy as I am only 5’4’) and has one of the most beautiful body I have ever seen. I will learn later that she is a dance professor (belly dancer, pool dancer, lapdance dancer etc).

Pre-Opening: At my local salsa club. I have been dancing salsa for 4 years but unlike most dancer I am able to dance with anyone from beginner to expert because it took me many years to filter through all the bullshit moves to just keep the ones useful to make any girl I dance with to have fun and to look good when dancing with me even if she is a total beginner. And HB9 was a total salsa beginner. Other guys invited her but they could only do complicated moves which she could not, so they had to keep doing basic salsa steps which are boring for both of them.

Opening: So I see her surrounded by old guys chatting her. I tell my AFC friend: “Look at these old men. They will soon die and they only realize now that what they want most in life is the company of a beautiful woman. So they gather the courage they did not have when they were young to come to her now, which I respect, but it is too late because they are fucking old and fat. You, my friend, I don’t want you to be afraid to approach, don’t waste your youth or you’ll become like these desperate old men.” Then I just go, extend my hand, look at her eyes, she grabs my hand and we start dancing.

Gaming: From there on it is all about my vibe [fun, my own reality].
After a second dance, I soflty clean the sweat on the forehead with my salsa towel.
During our conversation, one of the old guys comes to our table and say to her, you have my business card, call me. I was laughing like a mad man in my head at his lame #close tentative. HB (to me): I don’t know why these old men approach me, I don’t like to dance with them but I don’t know how to say no.

Day2: Venue changes: I go get her at her place. We go together to get my laundry. We drop it at my place where we stay 5min. We go for lunch at a nearby restaurant. We go to my place 5min to drop her bag. We go to central park where we boat row for one hour. We go back to my place where I F-close her. Then we go for ice cream.

HB: What are your goals in life?
Me: I want to travel the world, I want to retire in 10-15 years and I want to learn more about spirituality and philosophy.

My game: I use the fact that we are both dressed with blue jeans and red top as the universe has decided to connect us. I just keep the conversation flowing with a natural fun vibe. Note: I complimented: “I like to dance with you” instead of “you dance very well”, much more genuine.

Congruence tests:
HB: Don’t you mind that I am taller than you?
Me: I think I am taller than you [I am only 5’4, she’s about 5’7’]
HB: You’re right I think you are so much stronger than me.

HB: Are you a good boyfriend?
Me: I am not perfect. [not qualifying myself]
[few hours later] HB: You said you are not perfect but I think you are a good guy.

LMR:
Me (trying to kiss close): So you thought I was gay because usually salsa guy are gay? I will prove you that I am not gay.
I leaning in for the kiss, she turns away, so I give a kiss on the cheek. Do you want to kiss me?
HB: No (shyly)
Me: [I don’t care what Misteri says, and I still go for the kiss] It works.

HB: I am sure you have many girlfriends!
Me: I used to have many girlfriends 6 months ago but now I am single. 6 Months ago I decided to become a monk and went to the mountain to meditate so I told all my girlfriends that I cannot be with them anymore. They were very sad but I had to go to the mountain. But now I decided to come back to civilization.
HB: I don’t think you can ever be a monk (I was fingering her at that point)

HB: But I don’t know if you are a good guy or not.
Me: I wanted to be a monk, so I think I am a good guy. I love the mindset of a monk: always wanting peace and happiness for others, not wanting anything from life.

HB: You are so brave [referring to me cavemaning]. Why are you so brave? It is the first time I meet a man like you.
Me: I used to be very shy when I was a kid. But I realized that it was a real handicap in life, so I decided to not be shy anymore. But I kept being shy all the time, it is difficult to change. But one day I realized that we all have a short life, some people live until 70 or 80 but others leave this planet earlier because of an accident or sickness. So really all that we have is the present moment. So there are no reason to be afraid anymore, I realized there is no one else I want to be than myself, so I lost my shyness.

HB: I read in magazines that if I am too easy you will disappear tomorrow.
Me: I like to dance with you, I like to talk with you, so why would I punish myself and dissapear out of your life?
HB: LOL
Me: You know, society conditions us to think that if a girl gives it up too early, she is a bad girl. But I don’t think like society, I am not judging girls. I have had great relationship that started on the first night or after 3 months, and I both equally loved the girls. If you ever wanted me to dissappear from your life, I would go. But if you want me in your life, I will not dissappear and stay in your life to give you love and happiness.

Debriefing: HB: I am very convervative, I don’t even understand myself why I am intimate so fast with you. I have never let any guys doing that to me. Guys used to send me flowers and all kind of gifts but I won’t even allow them to hold my hand. But you do absolutely nothing and I let you do everything to me. You are special! I am so happy.
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2009.06.26 – the interaction that unleashed my fury

Me: Hey, we haven’t met yet.
Her: You should go talk to the guys over there.
Me: You are really weird (then ignored her).

I found a sticking point, why did I even let her affect my state for the rest of the night. I should never attach meaning to rejection (credit Ozzie). Thinking back I could have handled her rude behavior much better with: “Wow, did you have a bad day or something?”

2009.06.27– mission for the night: to get rejected 10 times. Mission failed.

So I decided to get rejected 10 times on Saturday and be totally immune about it. Me and my friend were on a mission for that night, the winner is the first one who gets 10 rejections. So we both opened as much as we could left and right. Damn none of us could get any rejection, I was amazed because my friend usually got rejected like 80% of the time. I think this mindset really helped his game. I got zero rejection during the whole night. It was awesome. By the end of the night, to beat me at the contest, my friend went to a group of girls and started busting some stupid dancing moves without saying a word, the girls rejected him. He did it twice to be sure he beat me. Ahah, motherfucker, he really did not give a shit anymore. It was beautiful to see.

A few lessons I learned:
1. Being a bit drunk, boosted my game, I become a fearless machine, delivering fun interactions after fun interactions. How can I get in this state without alcohol? So I want to record my mindset when I am drunk to be able to tap into it whenever I want. From what I recall, here is how I felt: “I am the coolest motherfucker on this planet (Tim’s mindset but I really felt that way). Every girls love me. I don’t give a shit about anything. I am totally focused in the present and nothing else matters.”

2.
HB: blah blah
Me: What? How much do I cost per night?
Her friends started laughing at her
HB: Come on I did not ask that
Me: I am too expensive for you, you can’t afford me
HB: LOL
Me: OK, because we have so much in common, for you it is going to be free.

I had to leave earlier so number closed her, she punched her number in my cell phone and called herself. She was such a cutie, I hope she won’t flake, I did not reach the rapport phase properly. Another lesson: Don’t listen to your female friend who complains about how boring the venue is and want to leave to some other place while you are having a good interaction.

3. There are so many cute girls who are friendly. Don't let any rude girls bother me.

Any comments are welcomed, they will motivate me to keep writing my FR.
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Monday, 2009.06.29

I went to a social networking event in a bar and saw guys chatting up girls non-stop. I observed that most of their approaches are interview style telegraphing hidden interest or very sleazy style. As a result, every girls in the bar legitmately assumed that if you talked to them, you are hitting on them. So I just sat at the bar with my drink. Several girls approached me and I talked to them. I observed that the more I put FTC, fake takeway, BR tonality, they felt more comfortable and kept the conversation rolling. But this place was so packed with guys trying to game them, that I got interrupted constantly and lost the 2 first girls who approached me. Instead of trying to get her attention back, I decided to listen to the guys who stole their attention for my own curiosity, but they also lose them, the girl ejected due to their interviewing or sleazy style. I also wanted to punish the girls for going to the next shining thing by letting them having that horrible conversation with the chodes. Even when she begged me with her eye contact to talk to her again and save her, I did not. The last girl, she isolated me far from the crowd, I let her game me, and let her ask me for my phone #.

Lessons learned:
- Girls attention is very volatile, they constantly go for the next things like a buttefly. I need a solution against interruption.
- I must get rid of my egotic need to punish them.
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loved the LR mate, you handled the congruence tests like a true champ. Keep writing your FR's are good!
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I like to think that nothing can really discourage me and that rejections are my fuel. I wear all my scars, failures and rejections with pride. That is why I named myself Pride . So when I feel discouraged because I think I am ugly, I remind myself that I am Pride.

2009.07.03 to 2009.07.05

I had a day2 but I realize I don’t like the girl anymore. I used to think that it is good to spend time with girls to improve my game but that is no longer true. There is no point spending time with girls I am not attracted to. My time is precious and I have much better things to do. It feels lonely to live alone far from my family but I need to learn to appreciate being alone more than being with girls or friends. I can go to the gym, practice my music instrument or work on my career. Though I live in NYC, I have never met any other PUA nor have I taken a bootcamp.

Got several flake numbers. I realize that when the girl chased and gamed me, the number is always solid but when I am the one who ask for the number they are mostly flaky. So I want to focus my game on making them chase me, so Brad-‘s last article should help: http://www.rsdnation.com/brad/blog/get-huge-returns-how-get-girl-invest

2 girls were DTF with me on Saturday night, but I was not interested. My friend told me “Damn, you are so fucking picky with girls. They are hot!” I play this game to get the cute and hot ones that I like, I don’t care if I don’t get as much sex as I could.

So here is why I think she chose me:

Her: Guys, do you want to go smoke hukas?
Me: How does it work?
Her: It is easy, you just have to suck and blow the smoke
Me: Are you more of a blower or a sucker?
Her: (talking to others) Is he always like that? (to me) What about you?
Me: I get sucked and blown
Her: LOL

At the end of the night:
Me: So what is your relationship status? Do you have a boyfriend? Do you have one lover or many lovers? …
Her (Interrupting me): I am single!
Me: … OR are you just into hardcore sex?
Her (she claws me): I love you Pride!
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awesome journal  
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We all know that the number 1 rule is not to give a fuck about what anyone thinks of you. However there is a rule that is more important and comes before rule number 1, I will call it rule #ZERO: GET OUT OF THE FUCKING HOUSE!

If more guys followed rule #0, there would be less KJ (Keyboard Jockey or Knowledge Junkie). I truly believe that simply following this rule would have lead me to meet more girls than spending so much time reading the theory. I don't regret having read more than 20000 page of theory (720 days * 30 page per day on everage) in the past 2 years. Going through my old notes, I realize I forgot most of it, all my knowledge is stored in the hard drive compartment of my brain unaccessible to my conscious mind. Ideally, I want to transfer this knowledge to the RAM memory part of my brain so that it is immediately accessible to me whenever I need it. This process should take me at least 3 months while practicing in the field. We will see how it goes.
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2009.07.10

I twisted my ankle at 7pm and I could barely walk, let's not even talk about dancing. So what the fuck did I do on friday night, yes you are right, dance floor game! Approaching on the dance floor as a cripple.
I got blown out left and right! Fuck that! The only cool thing in that short night is that I got a girl to pay me a free jack and coke. Fucking chode friend, telling me I am aggressive and desperate, while he stand in the corner the whole night not evern trying once. I am not going out with him again.
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2009.07.11 to 2009.07.16

I tried to go through all my old notes but it is way too much information as I have been reading non-stop for 2 years. The amount of PU knowledge is overwhelming, there is no way I can put all of this knowledge in my ready-to-use memory. But I think it is not necessary to know everything. I will leave all this knowledge in my subconscious memory and hopefully it will come out magically when I need it. If I try to study too much materials, I will be too much inside my head. So I want to start all over again with a blank page, resetting my game, learning everything as a newbie again. So my only rule for now is to get out of the fucking house and have fun vibing with everyone.

Authenticity made her chase me
I tried to be authentic with this really beautiful korean girl.
Her: So do you dance salsa?
Me: Yes, I have been dancing for 4 years.
Her: I don’t like salsa. I think the movements are really weird and gay.
Me: Salsa is very fun! [I am not going to please you and agree with you – I will show you I am an authentic motherfucker and that is why you’d better chase me quick]
Her: [keeps engaging me in the conversation and as I left the venue, she walked by me to talk to me]
 Haha! This hot one has started chasing me!

AMOG 1
A tall guy is talking to 2 of my friends. I came in the set with extreme BR tonality and smoking my cigar. Me: “Yeah… I am a gangster…and I am going to shoot you.” The guy took 10 steps back. Me: “Hey, come back I was joking.” But the guy never came back he ran away.

AMOG 2
Amog: You should buy her a drink, it is her birthday.
Me: I don’t buy drink for people I don’t know well. You are the male of the group you should be paying drinks to all the girls in your group!
Amog: I paid the first round already!
Me: Yes, but you should also pay second and third rounds for the whole night. That is what a real man does.
[Talking in front of the girls]
Amog: [silent]
With hindsight, I think I lost an opportunity to be cool and meet the girls of his group.
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2008.07.17

It was midnight and it was raining earlier, so I did not want to go out expecting that very few people would be out. But I force myself to go out because we never know who I may meet tonight. I go to my favorite local bar with a friend and big surprise! The place is only half full but the ratio girl to guy is like 4 to 1. Never seen such a good ratio.

I decided to limit myself to one drink, as a result I lack courage and could not push myself to open HBs. So I decide to do a warm up and go to a 2 set of UGs. “Are you guys having fun?” UGs: Yes! When I tried to continue with the conversation, they moved away gesturing they did not want to talk. I always have the worst reactions from UGs, they should be happy that an awesome guy like me talk to them.

I asked my friend to open a 2 set (one HB8 and one UG) . He is very shy and usually never approach or just do one approach per night and get blown off right away. But this time, he did well. He told me he opened this way: He goes from behind and say ‘Hi!”, HB8: “Hi!”. Him: “Nice dress!” . I saw from far away through body language that conversation is about to die, so I jump in. Hey guys what is the occasion for going out? HB8: Just hanging out. Me: Same here, we live in the neighboorhood and just came here to relax. [I think this helps build trust that we are not only here to pick up girls].

I am vibing with HB8, she is kinoing me and I kino her. I vibe with her about travelling and her fashion career. Then suddenly this tall and good looking dude interrupt my conversation. (Damn I wish I was taller and better looking). She turns to him so I ignore them and turn to my friend and UG. I knew that she would come back as she won’t leave UG. So I hear her conversation with the Amog. Amog: What is your name? HB8: HB8 Amog: Where are you from? HB8: Minessota. After 5 min with amog, HB8 came back to talk to me. HB8: “You are the most interesting guy I met all day” I keep the vibe rolling mixing attraction and rapport, she is loving it. I realize all the canned material I use are specific questions I need to ask but the rest which is my spontaneous natural self is so much more powerful and relevant. HB8: “I like you!” I make her chase me for my number. I don’t even ask for her number, she take her phone out and ask for my number, she call me so I have hers.

Lessons learned
- Get out of the fucking house even when I don’t want to.
- The weakest link in my game is forcing myself to open – I will work on this seriously.
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Hey Pride, cool stuff. 

About going out when you don't want to, check out http://www.rsdnation.com/node/125518 , see if it helps.

Keep on writing.
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