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May 29th, 2017
RSD Book Club: Think and Grow Rich
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Caligula

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Collatio wrote:
Lol that's not the secret. But I'm not going to tell you the secret either.
If you read it again, and again, and again.. it'll become clear to you.

Is it that your thoughts are what give you power?

-Caligula
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Collatio wrote:
Think the RSD instructors' stories to gloryness. They all reached a certain point where they got enough leverage to become good.
Now they had the leverage.. they...
Used it?

-Caligula
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Collatio wrote:
No.
Stop ego-tripping dude. Just say what you think it is and be done with it.
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Collatio, just say what you think it is.  Given the large number of interpretations on the web, your interpretation may very well not even be correct.

From http://thinkandgrowballs.com/carnegiesecret.html
"the Carnegie Secret is that you have the ability to choose your own destiny... and achieve it through the use of your willpower."

From http://www.ryanwhiteside.com/what-is-the-carnegie-secret.html
"So what is the Carnegie Secret? It is, in fact, mentioned frequently. It’s even mentioned in the title. Think And Grow Rich.

The Carnegie Secret is thought!"

From http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/The_Secret_-_Andrew_Carnegie_Taught_I...
"1. Have A Definite Major Purpose.
2.  Be Willing To Stake Your Entire Existence On Achieving It.
3.  Keep Intensifying Your Desire.
4.  Have Bulldog Determination And Perseverance That Will Eventually Mow Down All Opposition.

From http://www.therealmikegriffin.com/2008/12/think-and-grow-rich-the-carnag...
"Something that you can easily pick up in every chapter, and the answer most given as to what the Carnegie Wealth Secret is: “see yourself,” or “visualize. ” See yourself where you want to be even before you are physically there. Napoleon Hill didn’t make it easy, and yet it is there in plain sight."

-Caligula
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PART 1
I read Think and Grow Rich when I was like 19 now 31. I've been going through some hard times at the moment. I work in the entertainment industry in Hollywood and the industry is really slow right now. I re-read the Laws of Success chapter on Failure at the book store the other day. The chapter felt like a wisdom hammer was hitting me in the head. Hill called it faith's hand gently pushing him in another direction. He decided on the day WWI ending to create Hill's Gold Rule Magazine. It was the first self-help magazine in the world. Hill chased, "the rainbow of riches", and every time he got close to pot of gold, he'd have to start all over again, penniless. He said the most satisfy thing he did in his life, was to help other people become successful. I really needed to re-elevate my goals and priorities. My last movie didn't sell too well, but it I had the best time of my life making it happen. Now, I’m focusing on my next movie project, which will be bigger and better. I love bringing entertainment to world, so people can forget their problems for a few hours.

PART 2
Sometimes, I have inner-conflicts because, I read a book titled Autobiography of a Yogi. It’s about Paramahamsa Yogananda a saint from India, which came to America inthe 1930's to teach about self-realization. The book has amazing stories of mystical Yogis from Indian. One of my favorite stories is about the Tiger Swami. He was massive man, who used to fight tigers in a cage and hit the tigers in the head and knock them unconscious. Until, he became self-realized and used his fighting desire and strength to connect with God. Material possessions has giving me only temporary enjoyment. I’ve mediated and felt bliss all through my body. The closest feeling I can describe is doing the drug ecstasy. Ecstasy is part heroin and speed. After, the heroin part wears off, you’re on the speed for the rest of the night. The heroin feels really good, but then you spending the next 2 days recovering from how bad the chemicals fuck you up. I’ve only done ecstasy maybe 5 times in my life. Everybody has to work and make a living, but is there more to life than banging hot chicks and being rich, and/or getting married and having children. The bliss I feel is like having a 20 minute+ ejaculation and through-out  my entire body. It is hard to keep your mind free from restlessness. With all the day-to-day actives and bullshit.

Back to Think and Grow Rich this why I have inner-conflicts between focusing on desiring money or focusing my desiring to become self-realized. Maybe, I can do both. I’m a great PUA and can get girls whenever I want out in the clubs or bars. After, awhile that gets old too. Please help me with some wisdom! Thanks.
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Collatio wrote:
Alright man if you wish. You're right and I may have been a fucktwat by not telling the secret straight up.
Sorry about that.

The Carnegie secret is in my opinion, decision.

In EVERY chapter I've read about it. The think that makes men succesful is too make the right decision and stick with it.
The one most important thing is decision. Decide what you want, decide you want success and you will not settle for anything less.

Decision is choosing a path to follow, the rest of the things are just ways of attaining it.


This is pretty money, even if it is not the exact secret Hill had in mind.

Thinking back to times I have failed to achieve something, it was usually because I didn't align myself 100% with that path.  I had not made the decision to go with it.

Scottie_pimpn wrote:
I read Think and Grow Rich when I was like 19 now 31. I've been going through some hard times at the moment. I work in the entertainment industry in Hollywood and the industry is really slow right now. I re-read the Laws of Success chapter on Failure at the book store the other day. The chapter felt like a wisdom hammer was hitting me in the head. Hill called it faith's hand gently pushing him in another direction. He decided on the day WWI ending to create Hill's Gold Rule Magazine. It was the first self-help magazine in the world. Hill chased, "the rainbow of riches", and every time he got close to pot of gold, he'd have to start all over again, penniless. He said the most satisfy thing he did in his life, was to help other people become successful. I really needed to re-elevate my goals and priorities. My last movie didn't sell too well, but it I had the best time of my life making it happen. Now, I’m focusing on my next movie project, which will be bigger and better. I love bringing entertainment to world, so people can forget their problems for a few hours.


Good stuff.  Keep us posted on how that project goes.

scottie_pimpn wrote:
Back to Think and Grow Rich this why I have inner-conflicts between focusing on desiring money or focusing my desiring to become self-realized. Maybe, I can do both. I’m a great PUA and can get girls whenever I want out in the clubs or bars. After, awhile that gets old too. Please help me with some wisdom! Thanks.


I don't think the two goals are mutually exclusive at all.

In fact, you need to do things in your life in order to self-realize.

I think life is all about having experiences.  Those experiences allow you to grow. 

To me, growth is all about strengthening your sense of self.

When we are kids, we are slaves to those chemical reactions we call emotions.  Our entire lives are spent running away from bad emotions and towards good emotions.  Our sense of self is dictated entirely by what is going on around us.

As we grow, we gain independence from our instincts.  Instead of our instincts controlling our lives, they become references for us to interpret and use at will.  Our bodies and minds are used as tools. 

At the same time, we develop and stronger and stronger sense of self independent of external pressures.

The only way for us to realize this, however, is to actually go out and experience shit.  It is said that the monk who sits in a cave for many years has reached the pinnacle of growth, I say bullshit.  If you were to stick that monk in a social situation, I bet that monk's sense of self would collapse in a heartbeat.

When you do things in life like travel, dating, relationships, making money, meeting new people, etc your sense of self is tested.  Like a muscle, it will grow when pressured like this. 

So long as you constantly push your comfort zone externally and feed your mind with ideas that point you in this direction, it is inevitable that you will have constant growth until the day you die.

Hopefully, then, you can smile when on your deathbed.

-Caligula
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Halffull

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I think the secret is that there is no secret, success requires hard work.

Napoleon you dog...
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Collatio wrote:
I just heard in the Law of Success audiobook that Napoleon Hill placed particular importance on stylish clothing.
An interesting fact as well that he went into debt to buy a few new suits at that time.

I'll post something up about the Scientology of Clothing, as he prefered to call it, later on.
That's... odd.

-Caligula
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Bump.

Come on guys, a lot more of you said you were gonna read this book than the ones who have posted on this thread.

-Caligula
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