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May 24th, 2017
Road to Las Vegas
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Lazybones

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So I attended Papa’s free workshop and it got me excited. I decided it was time to commit. So here it is.

I will come to the summit in Las Vegas.

I’ve calculated that I need around 2000 € for tickets, accomodation and whatnot.

Currently I don’t have the money, nor any source of income. I’m leaking like sieve. However I’m hopeful that I will get some work next week when I go on a interview for a firm that gets workforce for others. So ideally I’ll be doing oddjobs this summer.


This is my road to Las Vegas.

Edit:

End of October. The Summit was an amazing experience. Had some crazy adventures leading up to it and will continue doing this stuff now that I've realized what is possible. This thread is now done. My new goal is to bang 30 girls this year.
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LR Thursday 30.4.2009

1st of May is a national holiday in Finland called wappu and everyone is out drinking in the streets on the 30th and the 1st.

Nothing special happened during the day. We we’re just drinking with friends. Everyone has a backpack full of booze and just keeps drinking.

Don’t remember what time it was, but we decide it’s getting cold and it’s time to go to the club where there’s a student party.

We get to the club and there’s a queue about 2 hours long. Lucky for us the club has a patio and the fence is low enough to easily jump over. So we circle the patio to find the best place. Luck is with us once again as there’s an open door in the back. We sneak in with a bunch of other people like a bunch of Mexicans. Some get caught by the doormen and the rest get it. Now on to the sets.

Didn’t do many sets, but the ones I did were good.

1 # Boat Girl

I met this girl a couple weeks ago on a booze cruise for students. Didn’t get anywhere with here then and neither did I this time. I probably spent 2 hours with her chillin. Didn’t escalate enough.

She told me a few times that her friend left so she has no place to stay. DTF? Probably. Anyway eventually she says she has to go to the toilet and I didn’t see her after that. Didn’t mind though, there were plenty of attractive girl out.

2 # Law girl

Coming out of the toilet I see a real stunner. Strong eye contact she’s moving in the opposite direction. I say hi. She stops. We start talking. People are walking between us so I decide to pull her next to me. Continue talking. She wants to go find her friends or something. No problem, claw her in and start moving.

Move around with her a bit until she want to see friends or something. She then proceeds to facebook close me. We’ll see what happens. I actually remember her name and will probably add her on facebook.

3 # Dog girl

On my way somewhere a girl stops in front of me. We hold eye contact. I say hi, claw her in. Physicality is KING. About 1 min into the convo she says “ I saw you when you came in. Would you like to kiss me?” Makeout. 25 yo tight body. She keeps telling me I’m cute so I decide to push it.

I ask her where she lives. I live closer so I tell her. Let’s go to my place. She starts going on about how she has guests staying at her place and a dog. Then she suggest that she could bring the dog to my place. No dice. I will not bring animals into my house. Set is dead and she leaves after awhile.

4 #

At this point it’s around 3 am. The place is starting to empty and I’m out on the balcony with my flatmate who’s smoking. I see a girl. Nothing special but she had mad tits. So I beckon her over with my hand and start talking. Physical and stuff.

It’s cold outside so I tell her let’s go inside. I find us a nice quiet spot to vibe. Then she wants a smoke. Her friend is there with a guy. Friend tells me that she has a boyfriend or some nonsense. I’m fazed for a bit, but since there’s nothing else going on I decide to just chill. Just talk with the guy and relax. Think it was just some random dude and friend was looking out for her girl.

Eventually me and my girl end up dancing. My smooth salsa moves fail, because we’re both drunk and she’s wearing a bag. Last song is a slow one and we go all elementary school disco style lovey dovey dancing. At some point I decide FUCK IT. Go for kiss, Makeout.

Song ends and they start kicking out people. Her friend comes to her and they want to go to eastern Helsinki. Apparently she had some stuff at her friend for a picknick the next day. I won’t have none of that. I live way closer. Eventually me and my flatmate that we met on the outside get a free cab ride off her to our place and glory times ensue.
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Cool. Btw if you use priceline.com for airfare, you can CHOOSE YOUR OWN PRICE and get them for super cheap. Also, expedia.com has really cheap lodgings, such as Imperial Palace's $25/night rate that appears oftentimes.
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FR Saturday 2.5.2009

Well I fell asleep on friday so I didn't go out. I was determined to get something out of today. Alas it was not meant to be.

Apparently May 2nd is the national hangover day in Finland, so nobody was willing to come out.

I eventually find some peeps going out and go to a club to meet them.

I get there earlier than they do and there's not a lot of people there. I figure it's the icehockey match and just keep choding about.

Eventually the peeps arrive as I had just a moment ago opened my first set by bumming a smoke off of them.

I sort of chode about until my friend pushes me into a girl and even pulls her in.

I ended up spendig the rest of the night with her. MISTAKE.

Sure there weren't many sets in the venue, but there were some ok sets there nonetheless.

I was coming from a place of neediness as I didn't want to lose my girl. This lead to me not escalating enough. So despite us holding hands and shit I didn't go for a makeout. Or I did, but it wasn't enough.

Her friends even left earlier and she was their ride. I thought it would go down fo sho.

Got a free ride home from her though.


Lesson learnt.
- Open more sets, even one can lead to glory.
- Escalate more.
- Be willing to burn bridges.
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LR: Chilling out
A tuesday sometime around easter

Thought I’d share a night that was really a learning experience for me a few weeks ago.

This is what I consider a glimpse into the power of shadowlording.

Pretty standard night, were some more people out than normally. Met some cool guys that we hanged with most of the night.

Then I see a girl that raises my interest, not a hottie, just somehow attractive. Let’s call her normal girl. I stop her with the usual ”Hi (long pause, strong eye contact) who are you?”

Fast forward toward the end of the night. Wasn’t really getting anywhere with the girl, but I figured I’d give it one more shot as I see her in the smoke room.

She was hanging with her friends. One of whom became quite hostile to me straight off the bat. Probably the leader of the group. Luckily she became all sweet once it turned out we share the same mothertongue.

The club closes and we leave. I didn’t think it was going anywhere with the girl so I was preparing to leave when the leader tells me I should come with them to an afterparty. I’m initially sceptical, but decide to follow them since they’re going the same way anyways. So we roll out three girls, one guy and me.

As we’re walking to the place the other guy is trying to convince me to come with them. Apparently blueberry shots and afterparties make girls really horny. True story. I decide it’s adventure time and follow them to a hotel room.

What proceeds is me chilling the fuck out on one of the beds in the room and the other guy trying waay too hard to hit on the one girl from the group we both want.

I refrain from any overt on the one chick we both want out of respect to the dude since it was his room. What I do instead is keep making eye contact with the girl and giving her a sly smile. We both know what’s going on.

This eventually leads to one of the girls leaving and two going to the bathroom to take a bath. Other guy is standing at the door asking them to let him in. The girls ignore him. I just lie on the bed watching tv and chill. I suggest that he just opens the bathroom lock. It’s a simple enough mechanism, standard wc lock that you can open with any key from the outside. So I go open the lock for him and he quickly takes his clothes off and rushes in.

He’s doing all the work again as I’m just lying in the bed as he tries to talk the girls into letting him in. He’s literally sitting on the edge of the bath tub, naked, in an awkward position asking to be let in. Girls say ”Noo, you can’t come in unless Mikey comes too.”

What goes trough my mind is ” Fuck it, it’s adventure time”. So i hop into the tub. It’s small and we’re four people in it so it’s cramped now too. I’m sitting next to leader girl opposite to normal girl. Since I’m doing crazy stuff now I decide now would be a suitable moment to start fingerbanging normal girl. So I start reaching out with my arm and try to find her pussy. She start jacking me off.

After some more adventure. I’m alone in the tub. Normal girl comes in and turns off the lights and we get it on in the tub, only to be interrupted moments later by the other guy.

Funny thing is I was actually trying to wing the other guy by getting the other girls to leave with me because I thought he would be more valuable than banging some random chick once.




In short:
Other guy tried too hard. I was just chill and centered, but made sure there was intent there. Kept the tension with the girl whilst the other guy spiked her BT.

Learning:
- Just keeping eye contact and holding that tension is powerful
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Tickets are booked, no going back now.

LAS VEGAS, HERE I COME!
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Quick update.

I now have work of sorts. Signed a contract yesterday and I'll be getting work mostly on weekends.

Quite uncertain as I it's more like doing odd-jobs as they're available.


He who can take the greatest uncertainty shall have the glory. I'm sure this will be a great experience.
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FR: 20.5.2009 Turbos and lezzies

National holiday here today so lots of people were out yesterday.

We went to The Tiger in Helsinki. Cool club, it’s quite large and on the top floor with a nice view of Helsinki from the outdoor areas. Bit upscale, age limit 22. DAMN so many hotties there.

I hang with my friends and at some point we go to get beer. I’m looking around and see a cutie HBsun. Some eye contact, she looks away and I turn back to my friends. Bit later she’s away from her group so I walk up to her.

ME: Hey
Her: Hi!
ME: What’s up with the sunglasses (I claw her and touch the glasses on top of her head)

I got really physical very fast with her. Clawing the shit out of her hugging her and stuff. She reciprocated as well, don’t think I would have escalated so fast otherwise.

After talking to her for like a minute just ramping up the touching I start leading/pushing her towards a wall. I have her pinned against a wall with me holding her waist and her holding her hands around me. Total bubble of love.

Then her friend comes and whatever sexual tension there was is gone. I try to befriend, but doesn’t go over too well as I don’t hear her name and mispronounce it, etc. I leave to find some new sets.

Two set sitting next to a couch. Eye contact from one of the girls and as I go up to them another girl sits next to my target. I sit next to the new girl (Butch, she was manly and a lez).

ME: Hey, you took my seat. (claw) Let’s switch places.

We switch places I say something random to Butch and focus on her friend.

Me: bla bla
Her: What’s your name?
Me: Mikey
Her: Omg, are you blah blah boyfriends cousin blah blah

So she wants to dance and something, but she insist on dragging her friends everywhere with her so I decide she’s not worth my time and leave for new challenges after hanging around for awhile.


Winged my roommate at some point talking about manga and anime with some otaku girl. Was quite textbook. She actually isolated me. Not really any attraction for me though she wasn’t that bad. Later I find out my roommate thought he was winging me. Wing signs, huddle or whatever definetly necessary.


I was to bump into HBsun later on. I saw her flirting with a random asian guy, which bothered me a bit. I was standing a bit to the side chatting with a girlfriend of mine whose friend’s boyfriend the dude was. Looking at how relaxed and alpha he was funny since he had a sort of entourage that included a short white guy as well as the usual gang of other asians. Made the girlfriend very jealous, but she didn’t do anything.


I’m leaving the club and bump into HBsun and friend whilst waiting for the elevator. She becomes very physical with me hugging me all the time. She was very bubbly and happy, bit ADD. This is where PERSISTENCE paid off. I just randomly hanged around with HBsun and friends outside the club. Logistics were against me as she was with a friend, but she wanted my number and even texted me later the same night.


Pros:
- Improved physicality from the get go
- Winging
- Opened sets

Cons:
- Didn’t open that many sets
- Need to open sets that interest me, as it was I ended up with girls attracted to me I didn’t care about.
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I have come to depend on alcohol far too much.

What follows is a retelling of three nights of this week. Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday. I was drinking Tuesday and Frinday.

Tuesday 16.6

Tuesday night my heart was ripped out or alternatively my ego took a serious hit. Being drunk makes it hard to differentiate.

This week I’ve been experementing with honesty and have gotten quite good results. Being honest with my intentions will hopefully save me from the possible ”I have a boyfriend” or ”My friend is sleeping at our place tonight”. Actually did save me some trouble this week.

A two set one tall fit blond with ok face, but nothing special and her friend. I’m attracted to the blond so I stop her and say something. Claw her in and start leading them to find my friends. Find friends and I claw and do something, but she blondie disappears.

Fast forward to later that night Blondie is alone and I stop her. She doesn’t remember me or my name. Testing? Tells me something about her grandmother dying.

We go to dance and she keeps looking elsewhere not making eye contact. Suddenly blondie just leaves, didn’t say anything just walks away whilst we were dancing. This was a total WTF? Situation for me. Since I had no idea what I should do.

My ego took a big hit and I was unable to get anything done the rest of the night. I had two girls that were DTF, but I just couldn’t make myself do anything as I wasn’t really attracted to either.

Just another brick in my castle.



Wednesday

Went sober which is hard for me as I tend not to approach.

Same on Wednesday as I spent most of the night chatting to bar personnel or random aquintances.

Aka not really anything to report.
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Friday
June 19

Great night and epic fail.

I went home with one of the hottest girls from the club. Blonde (ya I like blondes) that works as a bartender at one of the upper scale clubs in Helsinki call her barblonde.

2 set with Barblonde and a hot friend of hers.

I go up to Barblonde and tell her:

”You’re cute I had to meet you, what’s your name?”

She tells me her friend is her wife. Okay... Unfazened due to the alcohol coursing through my veins I tell them that they shall be my girls this night.

Double claw with one girl on each side and we start walking around the club.

Fast forward to later her friend has found a guy and I get barblonde to myself.

From here on it was pretty standard joking around chillin. Until she tells me the club will close soon, which I take as a que to leave. She doesn’t want to go to my place as I have two flatmates and she lives alone. So I decide to let her have her way and we go to her place which is closer to the club anyways.

Once there we chat and drink for an hour or so till I decide to carry her to her bed and we start making out.

I get her pants off, but suddenly she start saying that she’s too drunk to have sex. LMR? I should have just plowed through it, but instead I gave up way too easily and ended up leaving.

Where did I go wrong?

Far as I can tell is I didn’t lead enough and wasn’t dominanting enuff. Should have started to escalate immediately at her place.

Also gave up too easily.
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Saturday
June 20

Well I pulled last night again.

Now this is a girl I've had a strong connection with from before last night when I met we we’re making out about 10 seconds after we met, but logistics messed it up. Almost didn’t work out this time either. She actually go into an argument with her friend because of me. Her friend had decided that she didn’t want to have fun that night. I kinda ignored the friend as well, but a bunch of my friends tried talking to her and she just wasn’t in the mood.

So we’re making out in the club, definetly very sexual. Pull goes smoothly I just tell her we’re leaving. I had earlier told her that she was coming to my place as I was not about to waste a whole night beause of logistics again.

Standard sexy time, but for some reason she doesn’t want to jerk me off. No matter I think and put on the condom and then I repeatedly guide her hand down there and try to get her to jerk me off. Nothing she just won’t do it. After several attempts at sex this was as far as she would go.

She wouldn’t let me take her bra off either. Otherwise fully nude.

I ask her why she doesn’t want to have sex. What I get out of her is ”You’re just so...” Not much help there, though she started crying at one point and was laughing the next so I think I may have fried her circuits. Also her friend said something about her being a virgin, which I doubt. Of course I asked about this as well and her answer was ”I don’t think so.”

Gotta start working on my end game it seems.
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