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Full.Metal.0_0

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I don't feel like I have internalized this concept yet. Whats the difference between someone who is present and someone who isn't? Thanks.
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Dick Gallo

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Full.Metal.0_0 wrote:
I don't feel like I have internalized this concept yet. Whats the difference between someone who is present and someone who isn't? Thanks.
It really boils down to feeling good.

You feel good; you're probably present.

You feel worry or constricted; you're probably not present.

We do drugs to feel present. We drink alcohol to feel present. We jump off cliffs to feel present. We play sports to feel present. We watch Jersey Shore to feel present. We have sex to feel present.

We chase presence, but it's always here.

Presence = God

Many religious people struggle mightily with God, because they are trying to "understand" him and "relate" to him, when he's here, there, everywhere.

Think about what isn't presence.........any discomfort that you resist. Any thoughts that cause you suffering. Any feelings of inadequacy or longing to become something.......
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#53
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I wish I could do it but for me it works when I dont  do it on purpose Im a opposite guy lol
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#54
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Bump.

Legendary post.

This shit is so simple yet so powerful.
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I love the concept, and it makes sense but i have a question

Wouldnt consciously doing everything you do on purpse just get you ridiculously stuck in your head, Maybe after time you wouldnt be, but if you are always thinking about doing something at purpose wouldnt you be putting yourself in your head?
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Fred E. Rick

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tspongt wrote:
I love the concept, and it makes sense but i have a question

Wouldnt consciously doing everything you do on purpse just get you ridiculously stuck in your head, Maybe after time you wouldnt be, but if you are always thinking about doing something at purpose wouldnt you be putting yourself in your head?
The reason it doesn't get you stuck in your head, which is a valid thought, is because you are doing each action purposely...

...but you aren't concerned with the 'how'.

You understand that the 'how' will take care of itself.

And it does.

You also internalize this mindset so it's not like an inhibiting thought or anything.

If anyone isn't clear on this concept then watch Tyler Durden in Fight Club.

He literally does everything on purpose, even the way he throws his cigarette onto the ground (he does this multiple times in the movie).

He turns everything into an art form.

He is a spectacle to be witnessed.

Doing everything on purpose creates conviction and certainty AKA no resistance or doubt.

You simply choose to do something, that is to say anything, and DO IT.
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Right action knows no limits.

The only game I have is Candyland.

Arousal begets arousal.

Owen Cook: "Everyone told me I couldn't master the game, they said I couldn't build RSD, they said I couldn't do all sorts of shit. Those were their limitations, not mine. I don't have limitations because I choose to focus on what's possible, not on what supposedly can't be done...Ultimately to be the best you have to be hungrier, more focused, willing to die for the shit. I'm willing to go to that length because I'm disgusted by the experience I had in my first two decades of life and can't stand other people not having a rope to pull themselves up. I've been given more blessings than I ever asked for or deserved and have no reservations to go to any length to cultivate and offer the gifts I feel forming within myself on a daily basis in return for that."

Augustine of Hippo: “Resentment is like taking poison and hoping the other person dies.”

Michael Jordan: "I know what is within me even if you can't see it yet...I have something more important that courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am."

I wear my heart on my dick.

Everything is internal.
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Gunner

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This. Better than I could have said it right there, excellent Fred
Fred E. Rick wrote:

tspongt wrote:
I love the concept, and it makes sense but i have a question

Wouldnt consciously doing everything you do on purpse just get you ridiculously stuck in your head, Maybe after time you wouldnt be, but if you are always thinking about doing something at purpose wouldnt you be putting yourself in your head?
The reason it doesn't get you stuck in your head, which is a valid thought, is because you are doing each action purposely...

...but you aren't concerned with the 'how'.

You understand that the 'how' will take care of itself.

And it does.

You also internalize this mindset so it's not like an inhibiting thought or anything.

If anyone isn't clear on this concept then watch Tyler Durden in Fight Club.

He literally does everything on purpose, even the way he throws his cigarette onto the ground (he does this multiple times in the movie).

He turns everything into an art form.

He is a spectacle to be witnessed.

Doing everything on purpose creates conviction and certainty AKA no resistance or doubt.

You simply choose to do something, that is to say anything, and DO IT.

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Gunner

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ExtraordinaryDump wrote:
Gunner, What do you mean by your post? I want to understand your post, but I haven't GOT IT yet. You probably explain things differently.

This is what hopefully you are trying explain, because this is what ive been doing and to great success.

Tackle through anxiety, by taking action. amplify the anxiety by taking more action, take action in following whatever gives you more anxiety, no? The anxiety drains itself and it fuels your core confidence.

basically just go through the anxiety of the social energy and physical actions you take, and its all a matter of how much anxious energy you can tolerate from others and yourself taking action for what you want.

Hey man, thanks for the question. First of all I gotta admit I don't really post a lot here anymore, and seem to focus my energy more on real life stuff- work ethic (I concentrate on that and not the work), goals, all that stuff. But I check in from time to time. It would be really hard for me to write as I did in some of my old posts. The original was simple enough but the follow up was probably a little extravagant. Going towards anxiety is an interesting take on it. I don't really get anxiety too bad, or maybe I just don't feel it anymore, but most things that tell you "wait, maybe not" are probably a good thing to fight against in the modern world, as well as figuring out the why and when you learned to get anxiety off of such an interaction and charge against it head on.

However I wasn't even thinking about social interactions at all when I wrote this, not specifically. I was lazy and failing at life, unemployed sitting at my computer all day and had to "find" motivation to go out. So, unable to find any I just decided to create it. "I'm turning off the computer on purpose. I'm standing up on purpose. I'm stepping (yes each step) on purpose. I'm grabbing the towel on purpose. I'm getting in the shower on purpose." And so on and so on. And it worked. Amazingly well, in one try. I was shocked and after my shower, pumped full of energy, I quickly typed out that post and went downtown. It was awhile ago, but I'm pretty sure it was a good night :)

Hopefully that clears things up, but there's a short bit from "Atlas Shrugged" that nails it pretty well also. In fact that whole damn half of the 5th chapter does. If you haven't read it and don't really want to read 1300 pages, just go to a bookstore, get a coffee or whatever, and just read pages 89 through 111 or so. Anyway the part I'm thinking about is short enough so I'll copy it down for you here-


"I don't know what sort of motto the d'Anconias have on their family crest" Mrs. Taggart said once, "but I'm pretty sure that Francisco will change it to "What for?' " It was the first question he asked about any activity proposed to him- and nothing would make him act, if he found no valid answer. He flew through the days of his summer month like a rocket, but if one stopped him in mid-flight, he could always name the purpose of his every random moment. Two things were impossible to him: to stand still or to move aimlessly.

edit- ha I already said that Atlas thing. Oh well. It's definitely worth saying again.
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#59
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thumbs up

take responsibility , eventually becomes autopilot, leads to shared value, strongeR leading and pure presence?
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 Isn't this just reiterating RSD's idea of Intent? or acting from your own intentions, to be specific? hmmm...
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