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Hey RJ,
Cool post. I'm almost done with school and you know that means crazy times a head.
Anyways...
So I think this internal validation you are describing is great. But I also think it sounds like a spike of internal validation. Any emotion you found within yourself. Those mental clicks were you automatically believe "it doesn't matter" and can access that emotionally in your brain are fantastic and should be enjoyed. But that emotion do not last forever.
Obviously it should be enjoyed while you have it.
I think its more effective to persue having that beleif long term like you mentioned a lot of instructors realize it doesnt matter.
I think they come to this conclusion by experiencing it, being validated and devalidated by it until it has not emotional influence on them. They do this so much that nothing in the game can validate or devalidate them. They no longer identify with "what happens" and therefore it doesn't matter.
Occassionaly while inbetween validation and devalidation you can experience this feeling as well, but it is never as long lasting as when you reach a point when you can no longer be validated, or devalidated by social and sexual interactions
my 2 cents
you rollin to bliss for kev's bday?? i cant hit kat tomm, but perhaps next week...
Cool post. I'm almost done with school and you know that means crazy times a head.
Anyways...
So I think this internal validation you are describing is great. But I also think it sounds like a spike of internal validation. Any emotion you found within yourself. Those mental clicks were you automatically believe "it doesn't matter" and can access that emotionally in your brain are fantastic and should be enjoyed. But that emotion do not last forever.
Obviously it should be enjoyed while you have it.
I think its more effective to persue having that beleif long term like you mentioned a lot of instructors realize it doesnt matter.
I think they come to this conclusion by experiencing it, being validated and devalidated by it until it has not emotional influence on them. They do this so much that nothing in the game can validate or devalidate them. They no longer identify with "what happens" and therefore it doesn't matter.
Occassionaly while inbetween validation and devalidation you can experience this feeling as well, but it is never as long lasting as when you reach a point when you can no longer be validated, or devalidated by social and sexual interactions
my 2 cents
you rollin to bliss for kev's bday?? i cant hit kat tomm, but perhaps next week...
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great post. i feel all tingly :)
great post. i feel all tingly :)
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"Whatever you feel, they feel. The golden rule can not be escaped. When you define your reality - who you are - in terms of what you are - your core, your nature - you feel REALLY FUCKING GOOD all the time. People around you feel good also, men and women. This is the deeper secret of giving value. Who you are is what you phisically are - present, assertive with a smile and a man who takes action - everything else is just a mental concept. You say if makes you feel good? Awesome, cause this game is all about feelings. commit to be positive dominant to everyone, just because you want to have a positive influence in the world." - ivanperez
"Whatever you feel, they feel. The golden rule can not be escaped. When you define your reality - who you are - in terms of what you are - your core, your nature - you feel REALLY FUCKING GOOD all the time. People around you feel good also, men and women. This is the deeper secret of giving value. Who you are is what you phisically are - present, assertive with a smile and a man who takes action - everything else is just a mental concept. You say if makes you feel good? Awesome, cause this game is all about feelings. commit to be positive dominant to everyone, just because you want to have a positive influence in the world." - ivanperez
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Great post Vic - And this is something that I often consider in order to defuse negative feelings I have about past issues and stuff.
But to turn this around, if it all truly doesn't matter then . . . why bother?
Why are we all here trying to improve our skills and chances of picking up chicks because . . . well . .. it really doesn't matter does it?
I don't have the answer for this.
Candyman
But to turn this around, if it all truly doesn't matter then . . . why bother?
Why are we all here trying to improve our skills and chances of picking up chicks because . . . well . .. it really doesn't matter does it?
I don't have the answer for this.
Candyman
A very profound post indeed.
Call it the "soul" or whatever, there is a part of you that develops the more you live life. Relationships are all about communicating with another human with her own unique soul. That is an experience that will lead to tons of growth.
-Caligula
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The same reason you don't commit suicide right now: you want to experience things that will lead to growth.Great post Vic - And this is something that I often consider in order to defuse negative feelings I have about past issues and stuff.
But to turn this around, if it all truly doesn't matter then . . . why bother?
Why are we all here trying to improve our skills and chances of picking up chicks because . . . well . .. it really doesn't matter does it?
I don't have the answer for this.
Candyman
Call it the "soul" or whatever, there is a part of you that develops the more you live life. Relationships are all about communicating with another human with her own unique soul. That is an experience that will lead to tons of growth.
-Caligula
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Funny thing is that I've been thinking this way fo quite some time. And it feels weird, like I'm on drugs... disconnected. Or maybe it's just low-carb diet.
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Funny thing is that I've been thinking this way fo quite some time. And it feels weird, like I'm on drugs... disconnected. Or maybe it's just low-carb diet.
Work out more. Testosterone = Motivator.
Funny thing is that I've been thinking this way fo quite some time. And it feels weird, like I'm on drugs... disconnected. Or maybe it's just low-carb diet.
Work out more. Testosterone = Motivator.
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We can get into the whys, hows & Wherefores of how I came upon this idea later, I'm tired & I still have big plans to whack it before bed. So this is a realization of what I believe is the BIGGEST PIECE of the puzzle that anyone who assembles mighty ho-trains with throngs of pussy eventually gets, understands & embraces. In my experience, especially with the instructors here @RSD, everyone who creates an abundant sex life for themselves -- indeed, everyone who masters their life in any and every way -- comes to this realization at some point.
You want to know what it schwas?
Alright baby, I'll tell you what it schwas. Here's the BIG SECRET:
It doesn't matter & it has no meaning. (See title & smack your own forehead!)
Let's you & I rap about this for a time & get into explaining WTF I'm talking about.
It has been said by some that you were born with two ultimate purposes, to survive and to replicate. Raise your hand if you heard this shit.
NO.
The universe is indifferent to whether or not you fulfill either of those purposes, as I think we can all attest from personal experience. If the universe, or God, or Brahma, or whatever omnipotent third-party you call Creator DID care enough to take a personal interest of its own accord, it would make sure you'd be getting hooked up regularly.
Once you are born into this world, what is the ONE inevitable purpose which the universe will COMPEL you to fulfill more powerfully than any reptilian drive to fuck and eat?
Of course I know some of you are immediately responding,
and I'm all like, "HOLY SHIT that doesn't even make sense WTF kinda engrish bullshit are you saying?"
But hear me out anyway. Come away with me and follow this train of thought.
You gonna die. You aren't 100% sure of ANYTHING else, but you fuckin' KNOW you gonna die. Maybe most of you younger guys here have 100-120 tops. Maybe you got less than 12 hours. Who knows?
Then I'd say sometime within the coming 150 or so years, everyone who will have personally known you during your lifetime will also have died off, barring any freaky shit like that X-Files episode where the dude uploaded his consciousness to the fucking internet. Let's assume that won't happen b/c it's a GODDAMN TV SHOW.
So that's one and one half centuries, a PALTRY 150 or so years, before you, all of your childhood friends you didn't even think about before you read this sentence, any and all ex-wives, ex-girlfriends, ex-fuckbuddies, brothers, sisters, sons, daughters, EVERYONE YOU EVER INTERACTED WITH EVEN FOR A MOMENT -- dead and gone.
Fast forward to maybe AD2309 & we can probably assume that, if any record of your time on this planet still exists, it will no longer be viewed by anyone because you're dead and they're not and you are therefore irrelevant to them.
IDFKWTF will happen after that, except that we know the Sun's got another 5 billion years left in her before she erupts into a red giant and engulfs this planet. And after that happens, we can assume sometime off into the even more unfathomably-distant aeons of the future, the universe itself will end, and it will be EXACTLY NO DIFFERENT than if nothing had ever existed in the first place.
I don't care how badly you want to make your mark and leave a sign that says, "Yeah...I was here!" it's not gonna survive that shit.
And so ultimately, inherently, NOTHING HAS ANY INTRINSIC MEANING OF ITS OWN.
One more time.
NOTHING HAS ANY INTRINSIC MEANING OF ITS OWN.
Now of course you have been assigning meaning to shit all your life. This is your opportunity to start becoming conscious of yourself doing that, and realizing that whatever meaning you're assigning to this thing or that thing DOES NOT ACTUALLY EXIST.
EXAMPLES!
You go out and have a great night, push yourself, make some great progress, and are feeling pretty fuckin' good about yourself. You can imagine yourself being under the impression that this means you're a pimp, or that this means you are capable of pushing yourself when you need to, or that this means you aren't hopelessly chode for the rest of your life.
IT HAS NO MEANING. IT DOESN'T MATTER.
(btw somebody do a lolcatz thing for this so I can post it up top.)
How about if you go out and have a shitty night? "Fuck," you think to yourself, "what if I never get it? What if I never get laid again?" You have that kind of night where at the end, you feel as though you are a sorriest, chodiest sack of pussy this side of San Francisco and you may even question your sexuality. It doesn't mean that, because in fact
IT HAS NO MEANING. IT DOESN'T MATTER.
Furthermore -- what if you actually DON'T ever get it? What if you actually DON'T ever get laid again? Guess what gentlemen?
IT LITERALLY DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER.
It makes absolutely no difference in the grand scheme of things if you become good at getting hotties all up on your jock; conversely, it doesn't make any difference if you NEVER become good. Because ultimately, neither option will have ANY FUCKING IMPACT WHATSOEVER.
It doesn't matter if you're sad and lonely and depressed, and it EQUALLY doesn't matter if you're whistling zippidy-doodah out your ass and having the hap-hap-happiest Christmas since Bing Crosby tapdanced with Danny FUCKIN' Kaye.
When I used to come upon ideas like this and contemplate shit like this, I would hear, "It doesn't matter if you're sad, the universe does not care," but I would INTERPRET that as, "The universe is harsh, cruel and unforgiving, & it sure as shit doesn't care about YOU, so just take your shitty day and your shitty circumstances and deal with it, because it doesn't matter if you're sad."
What I was missing is that other half of shit -- "It doesn't matter if you're happy, the universe does not care." Holy fuck when that hit me, it's such a gigantic fucking element of freedom.
It's DETACHMENT.
It's a removal of the emotional component from the decision-making process. It doesn't matter what you choose, in any situation, and once you get this, you immediately become internally-validated, because this rabbit hole goes on FOREVER.
Let's use a typical situation in which I'd find myself when I would routinely roll with the Jersey Crew.
We're at the bar. I'm too chickenshit to approach a hot set -- not like I have a choice, my body is overwhelmed with fear and hormones and chemicals and shit and it's like a goddamn panic attack. I go out for a smo, strike up some conversations out there, see Anthony and/or Kev coming out and smowing w/ me or continuing to hit sets, repeat repeat repeat until I go home miserable as shit and depressed as all mother-lovin' get-out.
RECAP, BLOW BY BLOW
What meanings was I imposing onto that situation? Let's get into my head, gather 'round!
1.) I'm at the bar with the J-Crew, which means it's GO TIME! Time to shine, fucker! Time to nimbus up! Kick the tires n' light the fires! Go big or go home, git er done, FUCK THAT PUSSY.
No, it has no meaning. It doesn't matter.
2.) I never open sets, and I go out and smo instead, that means I'm a piss-poor pussified excuse for the kind of REAL MAN chicks get wet for.
No, it has no meaning & it doesn't matter.
3.) I don't know how to control my emotions in this kind of situation, and it means I may possibly never figure this shit out and could quite possibly remain pussified for the rest of my life!
No, it has no meaning & it doesn't matter.
Like I said earlier, it was already late when I started typing & I need some sleep, but we could hit level after level after level with this shit.
Bottom line -- if you're out and you want to approach a hottie, it doesn't matter. If you go ahead and open her, it doesn't matter. If you don't, it doesn't matter. Just strip away all the emotional bullshit -- it's not, "Yeah, I know I don't HAVE to approach her, but I really kinda DO b/c I'm afraid if I don't, I may have missed an opportunity..." No, it doesn't matter. It LITERALLY DOES NOT MATTER.
It doesn't matter if you're afraid of her, it doesn't matter if you're NOT afraid of her.
Well, what if you let your fear overcome you and don't approach?
IT DOESN'T MATTER SON.
One of my big "boundary" issues was always about like AMOGs and shit, to the point where I'd feel threatened by the guys in my own crew and I'd be freaking out, like, "Oh, he's talking to her, I don't want to seem like a dick. What if I go in and start running attraction shit and steal her away from him? Better just keep to myself or try and find some lonely girl not talking to anybody."
NO. It doesn't matter.
If you want to be nice, be nice. You don't have to avoid being a dick in any situation for fear of pissing somebody off, because it has no meaning and it doesn't matter.
DO YOU SEE IT IN REAL TIME YET?
I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone, and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world ... without you. A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you.
--V
Alternate Titles Proposed (by Me)
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How to Kill your Ego
Ego Killer, Qu'est-ce que C'est?
The Biggest Piece (Dick Joke!)
The Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson Thread
The Dwayne "The Rock" Lobster Thread
The "The Rock IS Lobster Johnson!" Thread
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*Author's Note -- in the event that you guys need to wrap your head around this shit & this becomes a sort of Q&A thing, I'll keep an updated FAQ section included in this first post. I am also not averse to keeping a running list of alternate names proposed for this thread, because, in theory, I can.
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