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December 10th, 2016
The Chronicles of Juicebox
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hexen220

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i gess its never too late to start a Fr journal thing

My weekend

Friday  - morristown

i walk up to dark horse and see kevin talking to this chick, once i roll up shes like eyeing me like im a prospect. This chick starts talking to me and im almost completely freaked out, she starts saying this weird ass shit to me, i swear shes a female poooooooooooooah, kevin thinks otherwise, but i have to disagree.

Arive in dark horse, and see a group with the female pooooah and like her friends, they were a bit odd, they were like outgoing but sort of oddly outgoing, i cant really place my finger on it, but they were cool peeps.

Kevin then helps me out and shit with a few of my sticking points, mostly conversation shit, i gotta become more social or else i will fail in life....jk. Kev tells me to approach this two set thats sitting down and i go, i acually form a pretty good connection with the broad, wasnt THAT strong, but its more of a connection then anyone ive talken to since the st patricks day parade. Why the didnt i get her number right then and there? Becuase i always forget about stupid shit like that. Her friend is probably the only person in morristown that knows what star treck is, i just though that was odd.
Josh and brian arrive in motown and we head to sona

sona is pretty popping like usual, uhhhh i think i approached about maybe 3 or 4  sets in this place, one of them no one was gaming that night, the second one idk she was nuts, she was like all over the place and shit, i dont think she knew her left from right. The best set in this place which was acually really fucking good. She was sort of pre isolated, her group was sort of right behind her we vide and shit what ever, but idk i wanted to eject, but she didnt want me to, again i should have gotten her number, honestly i just dont think of these things, im really not afraid to ask for a number.

head to hopper, sona was getting boring, uhh the only thing i really remember inside hopper was working on some of my dance floor game i tryed dancing with one chick, she "promised" to come back. I fucking straight up pull this chick off her boy friend, she was givining me the sex eyes asi pulled her toward me with her with her boy friend watching. I also danced withher friend a few minets later, she was fucking nuts, i dont know what the fuck she was doing haha i gotta start making out with broads i dance with...well im not really much of a dancing although i got some dance floor game, its really not hard.

the most money interaction of both saturday and friday night......heres how it went down

this random guy i think his name is sonny is trying to get this broads number shes looking at him like wtf, why are you asking me for my number

Me: are you cher?
her: yea i am
Me: you gotta make a music video now of you on a carasell or some shit

i tell her i did some music video thing at a bar mitzvah once and i found out shes jewish, so i give her a nice big hug or what ever. this the money part

me: so where are you from
her: (i forget what she said) but where are you from
Me: fort lee
her: how far is that from here
Me: idk about 40 minets or so
Her: so what are you doing in morristown
Me: im here to meet women, get there phone numbers, and have sex with them

i havent been that direct in a while, she was not ready for that shit, she didnt know what to even say in replay.

Me:hey atleast im honest
Me: (talking to the random guy still trying to get her number.....haha) shes like not now, maybe later

she acually was nodding her head and then and then the random guy trys to like amog me or something, what an idiot.
For some reason  i didnt get her number i gotta start developing that closer mentality like now

the last interaction before i went home, was acually the same chick that i opened at the begging of the night, the one were we acually had a decent connection with. I ran some tight ass game on her, but it was pretty cold, so i wasnt smooth or some bullshit like that, idk but i did ask for her number she gave it but was a flake. If i had gotten her number at the begging of the night it would have been solid as fuck...... next time


Saturday - east bumble fuck, new jersey

hard ass venue called taylors. everyone here approaching, youll even get amoged and shit, people here dont care. For some reason i was under the impression that it was a bunch of social circles which is what made the venue so hard.

there is a sports bar part and the upstares is the club part. The club part is nuts. kevin told me to like run the social train, and like introduce myself to everyone down the bar i got about 1 /4 of the way and just didnt feel like doing it, idk im sorry kevin....lol.

The first broad i introduced myself to acually like reopened me like 2 minets later but i was on the little mission thingy so i walked away, I completely forget what i said to her, but it must have been money, like10 15 minets later she saw me and reopened me again she was with some guy who i later found out was her boyfriend. I say something to her and like walk away for some reason. I see her a third time, this is when i had like about as much intent as humanly possible. She sees me through her little circle thingy, and like reopens me AGAIN, im like fuck this i push my way through her circle thing and go right up to her her friend tryes to talk to me but i want this little sexy spanish chick. I ask her if she can dance and she freaking qualifies herself to me. I try and pull her on the dance floor she tells me her legs are hurting never mentions once that she had a boy friend (maybe she didnt). I tell her and her friend im the vip tonight, this is the bullshit part

Her: so i can get free liquor (can you beleivee that shit?)

Me: ill give you free liquor if you make out with me
Her: she laughs and is like maybe like nodding her head like she wants to

maybe i should have made out with her right there, but i would have rather isolated her and gone in for the kill, try and bounce her some more, no go. i give up.
This is why i couldnt bounce her....she had a boyfriend, she looked very bored with btw. Now looking back i should have just gone for the them digits.

Kevin explains to me about intent and shit, i understand exactly what he means and for the rest of the night. I dont ever remember having this much intent ever through out the whole night consistantly.

the first set of the night was pretty good, she was the first girl since i can remember that told me that something i said was weird but it was like water off a ducks back, but it was still going well i tryed pulling her to the dance floor. There was like a 15 second break of like us not talking and some guy was like staring at us not talking and he pulled her away or something like that just like they were going out, so i walked away for that very reason. I later see this chode dancing with this other (literally). oh well

the last set thats really worth talking about is this one cougar, she randomly tells me shes 29 and then i acually called her a cougar. Shes like taken a back, she thinks im calling her old, maybe i am. i was fine, she hooked pretty hard, she was celebrating her friends brithday, i tryed to pull her to the dance floor but apparently she doesnt dance, atleast i tryed, the intereaction wasnt really going anywhere but at least i tryed.

Things i learned from this weekend

Intent is good, really good
sometimes being completely honest (and direct) helps
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Things i gotta work on so i can get the level of success in which i desire

Become a more social person in general..... something i just dont do, i wanna start connecting with bitches, im not just into one night stands

learn to escalate properly both psycially and verbally - i just dont know the proper way or at least i dont think im doing it properly

learn to lead an interaction to a place where i want it to go - i just dont know how to do that either

Just close, gotta start internalizing what ozzy talkes aboot - for some reason i always forget to do this shit
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Go Jersey crew!!  Where were you guys when I was doing this shit a year ago!? >=(

Anyways, props yo.  Keep pushing those boundaries.
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Let me just give you a brief history about my social life, I guess it’s never too late

Ever since I was in elementary school I was the kid who everyone knew but know one was really friends with, I had a few close friends, other then that I was pretty shy. I had a pretty bad reputation in middle school; people literally hated me for no reason I never understood why.

High school most of my friends where the “popular” kids, but never really talked that much, I was pretty shy (explain that one to me) but I notice in high school I was the kid everyone loved. In high school a lot of women were attracted to me especially once I was introduced to drugs and alcohol and I started parting, and I never really know how to get the women in bed. I though it was because I wasn’t good at making conversation (which was and still is true…haha).

Looking back I could have gotten laid; oh I could have gotten laid a lot. Just to give you an example of how chody i was, there was this one girl named Haily, i cant even begin to tell you how much she wanted to fuck me, all i had to say to her was lets have sex and she would have dropped her pants. We never had sex, the most i got from her was that one time she was sitting on my lap, when i was drunk as fuck, on the verg of passing out, somehow i remember this, she was like telling everyone how much she loved me, and then gave me this like big ass kiss on my cheek sort of french kissed me cheek, something like that, maybe im wrong i was really bad that night....haha I never took the initiative at all with her.

The most Sexual success i really had was that One time this girl once literally throw herself on me and shoved her touge down my throat, she was nuts (i was high as shit, ill tell you the story if you care to ask). I even had this little Asian chick ask me to make out with her, I though my friend put her up to it (she actually told me to make out with her). I had sex a few times, but it was mostly logistical, we were both drunk, at a party what ever you know the deal. I though it was just going to happen, I though nature would take its path. Never really had a real gf in my life, although I almost had one or two, she was fucking obsessed with me, it was annoying, really annoying. Until I was introduced to David D my sex life was minimal I was waiting for the one. I though the one would fall right into my lap

I did a grant total of one or two cold approaches before I joined the community, some really hot chick that was working in my town and went to school with me, she actually gave me her number but I was nervous as fuck, so she was a flake, I must have called her idk 5 times hahaha, atleast I tried. I even apologized I was soo embarrassed….haha

Once i was introduced to david D

i acually found out about this stuff in 2002 sophmore year of high school

i was researching how to pick up women during class when i was supposed to be learning things, the name David kept popping up. I signed up for his newsletter and the information that i really wanted wasnt showing up, it just kept telling me to buy his double your dating shit, though it was completely bullshit, that ends that.

about 4 years later i was reintroduced to David d by friends, who told me to read the mystical magical book, do i even need to say the name of it. One of the guys is a compulsive liar so i didnt believe him. Once my brother explained to me that This stuff is not bullshit, thats when i became an offical member of the seduction community.

i became a complete keyboard jocky, just like everyone else when they first began to learn. David was my god, he was the only thing i would do, listen to him over and over again.

I was under the impression that i had to be a complete douch, so thats what i became, completely, 100% uncalibrated, i tryed talking to girls, but i became an even bigger chode then before i entered the community which doesnt seem possible, for some reason i couldnt grasp the concept of cocky funny.

once i learned that you dont need to be a douch and that MM is a good place to start for begginers, i started doing some MM but this time i wanted to acually get laid, so i did my first cold approach since entering the community, i was nervous as fuck, although i got shit tested by the "leader" of the little group. afterwards i finished my beer, to show them i didnt care. my friend was more embarraed then me. I was just happy i finaly did a cold approach.

my first time i went out for the soul purpose of approaching women was at the male like 20 minets from me. i went out alone. i was walked around like an idiot for a while when i said fuck this. i started approaching some hired guns. i used an opinion opener, the same opener on all of them. it didnt go that badly, infact it went quite well although i ran out of things to say quicker then you can say "that". they all gave me the same response....they were all mesorized i acually found it quite hilarious.

the first time i met other people from the community was from the NJlair.
the first two guys i met at the same mall were acualy really cool, we had a great time oh man we were plotting ways on how to talk to women, it was fuckiing funny, oh man.
later that night i met "them" yes kevin you know who im talking about. they were from the NJlair.

you wanna talk about negetive influences. these guys would actively try and blow me out when i caught a good set, they were constantly dickes to me, the list goes on. i was just getting started basically and i pwned them a few times. i would use mm stuff the whole time i was with them, they never really helped me, infact they tryed to set me back, i think there all insecure, well they were handcore MM.

heres how chody they all were............this one time all of them were standing around hitting on the shot girl who happened to be a personal trainer not to metion pretty frigging hot. they were all like omg your muscles, OMG (like at the same time). i was just standing there, not saying a word.
This one guy wispers in her ear and like points to me. her response: you know what. hands me a free shot. i go..... if you give me that your going to let me feel your muscles(kind of making fun of all of them).....she almost pissed her pants. they were all staring at me like i just pwned them all.

i was acually called out once but i realized afterwards it was only a shit test. heres how it went down

Me: do you prefer direct, or indirect approaches?
her: (she like whispers in my ear) have you seen the mm tv show (practically kissed it, i can feel her lips and her tounge wanting to kiss it)

i though i was acually getting called out so i say a few things and just walk away. The ring leader (head asshole) of the poooooooah group was watching this, and he didnt say a god damn thing to me.

i had a few interactions like that, where if i had known what i know now, they would have been much different.
one cougar acually qualified me to her after i did some bullshit cold read, and she knew it was bullshit, however she goes oh i like that in a guy, someone that will just do anything, plus she kept asking me to buy her a drink.

more interactions along those lines

anyways after that i started RSD, went to ny all the time, with my brother, dont really remember much from that, although the few sets that really stuck for me

i remember some women with nice tits who we brought from the outside kept opening me and would rub her tits against me the whole time when i would walk away, i was a nub leave me alone.

when i had mutton chops, my brother almost pulled this girl (he didnt) but was bouncing her all around the venue. i was just standing there and she like started like touching my face and like gaming me I could have cock blocked him right then and there if he didnt pull her away, and i wasnt even trying.

the only set i remember remember was some little asian, who was like gaming me after i didnt some crazy opener, it was kind of awkward, so i walked away.

after that little stint, i took about a year off, hung out with guys approached maybe once a month, set my game back almost completely and then started the nj crew
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After a night of drinking at my passover sader and this kids gfs mom like staring at me like the wole night, i was trying soo hard not to hit on her mom and that kids gf.

i was pretty pumped for going out and shit but there was one thing which was a pretty big problemo, i was pretty hung over, yes i know this was at night, but i never ever get hang overs, even when i used to drink alot, besides my sleep that day was kind of fucked up

Anyways

hung over sarging (friday night in morristown), what fun....lol

despite me really not even wanting to be there, and wanting to go back to sleep, i went out, out of principle and didnt do all that badly.

nothing really stood out at sona a few pretty good sets, although Josh straight up stoll this chick off me, but its ok hes much better then me (kevin i dont give a shit..lool)

i got into it a little bit when we went to grasshopper the only sets i can remember is this one chick, who i would of had if she didnt have a boy friend, i went direct on her, i said she was sexy, she smiled and then told me her name. I though it was going well but i pulled her toward me a second time and as soon as i did that she said she had a boy friend again. oh well

and the other set, is this shot girl asian chicki met her a few weeks back, she opened me and i clawed whick was like a knee jerk, reaction, i even surprised myself with that. Evertime there was a break in the converation she would reinitiate the conversation, she loves me, im still trying to figure out the look she gave me once i left the bar, i think she just wants to be friends with me, honestly i dont care, shes cool, but i dont really wanna fuck her



Saturday night - NYC

hmm waiting for 2 hours in uncomfortable shoes isnt to much fun, hey at least i met some fucking smoking hot chick waiting for her boy friend to take her away. God she was fucking hot.

went to some place in tribeca fucking cost 30 dollers to get in, a turn off already (im cheaper then you realize). Atleast i got pretty drunk, this place was a straight up dance club, no one is standing around at all, unless your buying drinks. i dont know what is it, dancing environments turn me off, i do it sometimes, but between me dropping 30 and no place to really talk to anyone i wasnt really feeling it.

the first set, some pretty friggin hot chick i tryed talking to but really couldnt hear, so i ejected, later tryed pulling her to the dance floor, but failed misrebly.

next set, like an all asian set like 7 -10 fucking asians, everyone in that set was attracted, but i didnt think my target was realy attracted, maybe she was i wasnt really paying attension for some reason, so i hit the ejection button

other then those sets i pretty much got blown out of every set. I wasnt really talking loud enough, and my eye contact was pretty bad. My wings went bootcamp on my ass, well sort of they were just trying to get me in state which never really happens it worked, i started to feel it. I started to go direct on these bitches

the best set of the weekend by far (including sunday).....I went into this set with maximum fucking intent or idk maximum fucking presence or something, i literally told this chick that she was fucking sexy and this chick was giving me the "triangle" stare the whole time (as made famous by kobe) i could have easily made out her i would get really close to her face and was pretty receptive, almost on the verge of the sex eyes. I  was going to pull her to the dance floor becuase i wanted to work on my dance game, which is something i realize i need help with. Her friend was getting jealous and tryed talking to me, but i wanted the hot one, i think her friend pulled her away honestly becuase she was jealous.
I acually found this out on sunday night, that kevin even tryed to stall the chick that was jealous, but failed misrebly....... she like stormed off, dragging my chick with her all annoyed and shit,......hahah i love it


This last set was acually really good for me becuase it gave me a realization, well sort of proved to myself that i can do what kevin was trying to explain to me. Now im glad i dropped 30 on this place.....just for this one set, sometimes your off nights turn out more rewarding then your good nights!!
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Hexen it seems like we're in pretty similar spots man.  Love what your doing, keep it up.
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You know, I'm sure I make lots of mistakes but I think for me personally it's more about trust.  Trust in myself that I can do this, that I am enough and I have what it takes.  Belief is definitely something I'm trying to work on.
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Haze PUA wrote:
You know, I'm sure I make lots of mistakes but I think for me personally it's more about trust.  Trust in myself that I can do this, that I am enough and I have what it takes.  Belief is definitely something I'm trying to work on.
maybe your right about trust, i think there is something in the back of my telling me i cant do it, but the logical part of my brain says i can
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You know that's really interesting cause I'm the complete opposite.  My core is telling me exactly what it wants but it's my logical mind that puts up barriers and doubts.  I really need to just shut that part of my brain down and let my core carry me forward.

I'm sure in the end our sticking points might not be totally similar but I think in the end its just comforting to know someone is around where I'm at.  Many times you read about these money dudes and there's a bit of an overwhelming feeling.  Having someone on a similar plateau really hammers it home that it's just a skillset and we all go through it.
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sunday night - colorado cafe

mother fucker, no coat check lady, honestly i kind of liked her, but they stopped fucking having a coat check, damn thats what i get for missing last week (she told me she would be there last week)

anyways arrive bullshit with bonor for a while untill kevin and george come back and then bullshit with them. Anthony's girl is there, not even an instructer can game that chick when anthony is around her. We all watch the freaky ass line dancing. who the fuck line dances to disturbed, honestly

there is some party going on, with a bunch of really cute drunk chicks, i tryed talking to them for a while, but there add level was fucking through the roof, plow plow plow nothing at all really, give up.

approach this two set in the corner, one of them goes im a bitch, or something like that, and i forget what i said, but her attitude did a complete 180, she loved me, i eventually got cock blocked by a bunch of her wannabe orbiter chodes or something.

i see this milf, let me tell you, this is probably one of the hotest cougars, ive ever met, she must have been about 45, so frigging hot, she probably wasnt used to being approached, she was non responsive or maybe she just loved her husband, or maybe she was just used to him (cant change the spots on a leapord), she tells me shes been married for 15 years, and she had an 18 year old daughter right there, i dont want her daughter, i want the fucking milf, eh i knew it wouldnt have gone anywhere i eject........maybe i should have plowed more, who knows or maybe i should have hit on the daughter to eventualy get to the mom muahahaha, imagine telling that story to the kids.

the last set of any significance that i can remember. I go up to this one chick, and i say i think your really amazing....she hooked really hard.... shes told me she was a cheap date (i dont remember the whole conversation), but tells me that she doesnt like fast food, go figure....lol. i try and get her number, but tells me she doesnt like to give her number out to people she just met, now explain that one to me, i acually beleive her.
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i gotta post this again, this is great

in my school im in this club, im trying to make friends with both people that run the club. Im trying to make friends with them becuase they have some hot friends plus these two broads are pretty boring.

a few weeks ago i trying to befriend this one shes basically the head organizer of the club and shit. She was all over me, I had no intentions of hitting on her at all.

Her best friend has been giving me these dirty looks a while back and i though she hated my guts. I asked kevin about this and he said shes just jealous

about 1 or 2 weeks ago i realize that this chick is acually jealous of me, for no reason at all. I try and make friends with her, im trying to be nice and shit, helping them out as much as i can but shes acting like a complete around me.

this chick is nuts, she randomly starts hitting on some guy right in front of me just to try and make me jealous. This chick just gives up trying to make me jealous when she realize that i just dont give a shit.
All i try and do is be nice to her. Psycho broads best friend the is like in love with me.

I realize today that all of this is all true. i saw saw these two chicks in the cafeteria, and i cant figure out which one wants me more. The psyho chick is not psycho anymore, and now she wants me

god women are nuts.
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