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2/28/2009 - A trip to Baton Rouge, capital of Louisiana and a collection of country bumpkins. Lessons learned.

On Friday of last week I decided to go visit Mike in Baton Rouge, just to see what's up post-bootcamp. And, it's his birthday!. Baton Rouge, if you've never been, is kinda like the Baton Rouge as depicted in Adam Sandler's "Waterboy". There are people wearing cowboy hats in the bar, in a completely serious way, yep.

My intentions are to stay 2 nights and just tear up Baton Rouge for a bit. I pack up and am full excited to see what Baton Rouge is like, it's got the largest public university in Louisiana (LSU) and that means that a ton of hot chicks go to school here.

I meet up with Mike and regale stories of bootcamp and important lessons learned . Since it's birthday times, off to the nearest restaurant, Chimes, which is actually also a pretty cool and populated place. Here we have a lot of fun flirting with hostesses (highlight : Oi! C'mere as I call over the hot waitress (who isn't even serving us) and after goofing off with her for a bit manage to get her to sing at least a couple of lines of happy birthday. Then we get our assigned waitress to do the same. I nearly choke on some ketchup-laden fries and it's all good, a fantastic start to the night as we just hang with some of the cute female staff for a bit.

Now it's off to Reggie's, a bar, which is supposed to be the hottest place in Baton Rouge/LSU area. Also the same place where I found cowboy hat wearing guys there, which was absolutely hilarious to me. All they needed were the pitchforks and homemade torches.

Nevertheless, there are a ton of hot girls there. Immediately it's "bootcamp orders" again as I force Mike into sets and he does the same for me.

Here we keep bouncing off of sets, none particularly hook. One of my favorite interactions early on was opening a girl with "Hi, my cock hurts" under a dare, surprise! I actually manage to verbally hook her but her friends notice she's gone and quickly call her off.  Haha, 9 or 10 more approaches and I'm still feeling very good (positivity and a big smile work wonders!). That leads me to my favorite interaction of the night, this short blonde hottie who I keep physically persisting on, despite her "don't touch me" blahblahblah,  until her stupid cockblock friend pulls her away. Who knows where it would have gone if she hadn't!

That's really it for the night so far, Mike and I go to a local tavern and get one approach in here but it goes no where. This is a funny place because of all the hipsters here, I've never been to a hipster hangout before.

Oh! and the final fun times. It's getting very late at night and we decide to go get something to eat at a local restaurant. Lo and behold, opportunity arrives to those who are ready. 2 girls, walking down the street in the distance, the street was totally quiet. Yes...you guessed it! I pick up a full sprint behind them and since the street is so quiet, one girl hears me coming a couple of seconds before I get to them but didnt have time to react, so her face had this sheer look of terror on it, it was hilarious. A second later it is double claw ON!

But they did not MACE me or call the cops, which was awesome. You can get away with murder if you're smiling. One of the girls, the cute one, is still shocked and breathless (more like amazed!) but we actually manage to talk for a bit and vibe, she gives me mad love for running up just like that and saying they were cute, but it was late and they were on their way to their car anyway, I had only interrupted them.

So that was the end of a damn fun night, maybe 12-14 approaches which I liked because I actually gave each one an effort instead of just doing it for the sake of it.

Still, there were a lot of things to improve here
- I manage to persist in set a lot longer than before, but when I run out of things to say, the end is definitely not far away. Definitely need to add some roleplaying, verbal escalation, etc.
- Physical escalation for the most part was not up to par, definitely need to work on getting ridiculously physical from the beginning itself. That might help the conversational problem too. Physicality isn't a "tool" that can be deployed only on "hot girls", I have to make this jsut a part of me and who I am.
- Remember the Ultimate Mindset in sets and remember to follow the Ultimate Roadmap. PUSH FOR CLOSES! 

Positive points
- Opener
- Initiative
- Managing to incorporate a lot more physicality (hug and kiss on the cheek is now fully natural for me. But I've gotta give myself permission to do alot more to get the more awesome results).

Events of 3/5/2009 to the early hours of 3/8/2009



Wow, mindblowing weekend that ran the full range of emotions. Bootcamp-level intensity, yo!

I'm also going to try to make these reports just a little shorter :)

3/5/2009 - Hornets game

Thursday night was a Hornets game which was organized as an event with coworkers. It's been a looong time since I've been to either a Hornets or Saints game, which is amazing considering I've lived in the city for 12 years! So I'm pretty excited to get a chance to attend again, because somehow watching these games live is simply an uncomparable experience to watching it on TV.

Since most of the time we're bouncing around in bars and clubs anyway, here's an awesome opportunity to get practice in just plain vibing and digging in for a  long time interaction with people. And a great time to implement some of the new, life changing concepts I learned in bootcamp....

Get in and greet everybody warmly, I'm already in a great mood because I'm genuinely excited for the experience. Be the "I'll have what he's having" guy! I'm fully into the game the whole time, standing up and cheering and dancing around while the 'resident alphas' just sit there. before I would have never done this - but it's very much a part of not pinging and being super positive, which are always right. And what do you know, the cute girl coworkers next to me get into it too, and suddenly I'm getting all this love and respect from the same 'alphas' that where looking down on it just minutes ago! ahahah.

#-close one of the cute coworkers, by just handing her the phone and not making it a big deal. I have no intention of pursuing it, I love my job and it is as much a part of me as the rest of this stuff is. But she can definitely hook me up with some cute friends! It was actually kind of funny, it went like Hey, you should hook me up with some of your cute single friends But I'm single! I just kind of look at her in amazement that she would be that direct and instantly she gets all embarassed like awkward....... HAHA, but we work together. I love you anyway *claw and kiss on the cheek*. The whole time all of us are just talking about random stuff and having a good time, excellent skills to build for conversation and just being cool with people without grabbing them by the waist and kissing their neck...

Other cool stuff...I also run up and approach this one very cute "Hornets girl" that runs around interviewing people for the big arena screen. We talk for a short time, cool interaction. And while walking outside the girls I'm with recognize an actor from a show called the "The Game". They and this other guy are too scared to approach but I just turn, recognize and walk straight over and say hi - no looking back, no pinging. THe actor is a very cool guy, we're just hanging out talking about random stuff and we're taking pictures and all of a sudden the same girls from the group piggyback my approach and want to get in on the picture too. HAHAH, very cool to see a celebrity just randomly outside the arena.

3/6/2009 - Reality broken night. Wing is awesome, FIRST MAKEOUT EVER!

Ahh very cool night. I meet up with a wing I found from my post on RSDN a long ways back searching for wings in New Orleans, and he's a very cool guy. His skills are SOLID! I can definitely see us lording New Orleans in a very short time. Very motivated guy and committed to going out and improving hardcore. This is the kind of stuff that's gonna make us known in a VERY SHORT TIME.

I suggest a local university party, and Brent (my wing) and I are very excited for our "big debut". We set down some ground rules

- Always do what your wing tells you to do
- No discussing game theory in field
- Always be positive

Hmm....I think there were more, but I forgot them. Either way, these are the most important.

Brent has some cool ideas he's been getting from the Blueprint, such as the "animal game", pretending to be an animal or whatever your wing tells you to be, good for unstifling. We do it a couple of times, but honestly, I don't even think we need it - our states and moods are always high even at baseline. The importance of positivity.

Get to near the venue for tonight and instantly I send Brent into action with 'GO!' to these group of girls. Set the tone of the night early and begin pushing that giant snowball down the hill. I greet all my old acquaintances from college warmly, hugs and kisses. One girl remarks - wow, you've really GROWN UP. YEP!.

Get in and the place is still very scarce but Brent goes immediately into a group of 3 girls seated and I'm off to the left to get some free food and chat up what I can see, a fatty? Fine, keep the momentum going. Brent, like I said, has very solid skills and he's handling all of this in stride, even with this being his first "official night out'.

Brent's chatting up a girl with short black hair and taking her around, spinning her on the dance floor and #closing her, etc. he was in there for a good 15 minutes or so. Meanwhile, the ambience of the venue has shifted and the music turns up and the lights go down, club time. I'm absolutely horrible at dancing, , so I'm feeling very uncomfortable, and I managed to find a girl seated in the corner, open her, and just sit down next to her like nothing and she keeps re-initiating convo, haha cool we small talk a lot more and I'm clawing and pulling her in close but that's the limit of the kino, just being cool and chill while mainitning at least a light physical presence. She's a high 7 (can't really tell because it's so dark!) and after just hanging out with her for 5-10 min I kiss her on the cheek and go off the floor.

Meanwhile, Brent's still on with this short hair girl, but notices me choding out a little so he head motions me into the girl next to him, haha cool. I open her and instantly we're right next to each other up close, I'm spinning and pushing her away and her hair smells damn good!. So after about a minute or so I'm kissing her neck and she's giggling (BUT STAYING RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME THE WHOLE TIME), but her friend sees this rapid escalation and pulls her off to the bathroom, AWWWW. OK, now i'm on the dancefloor again alone so that awkwardness is returning, gotta find the next!

I spy the high 7 in the corner again and tell her she needs to stop being all lonely and come dance. But I can't dance HAHA me too, you have no idea, let's go. Pulling her arm the whole time, I plow through her resistance in no time at all and we're on the dance floor getting super physical. - I don't know about you guys, but I get bored of us grinding quick, so I force her to grind at first face to face, then I turn her around, then face to face again. Already I feel myself getting bored and I say "Let's eskimo kiss"...haha, we do so and she says while giggling You're insane... Yeah, but you love it..... A couple of seconds pass and I simply say We should make out and before I even finish the sentence she jumps up and we're full on making out. My thought at this point is "Oh, this is what making out feels like. Hm." hahah, cool.

I grab her ass and she jumps a little and we keep making out for a little more, and all of a sudden she draws back - ooh wow, guess I got greedy and triggered ASD too fast. HAHA I couldn't help it though, I wanted to fully experience this for the first time. I pull her back and make her put her phone number in This is for me....and she finishes it, she's almost leaving and I pull her back and say And this is for you and pull her in for a quick makeout again. Ahh, greedy I know, but now I know what it's like and I'm eager to tone it down and control it so it leads to a lay.

Brent meanwhile has #-closed the short hair girl and is now flawlessly gaming this hot blonde, and almost gets to close before she gets pulled away by cockblock. Damn, that girl was hot.

At this point, we're trying to keep out momentum but the environment is too scarce. We bounce to Bourbon, good training ground for quick street approaching and desensitization for Brent, who wants to try out a few self-amusing things on the unsuspecting girls there.

Gems such as
- Who would you rather date? Garfield or Spongebob. This one actually hooked 2 strippers on me, hands on chest and everything, but suddenly I ran out of things to say and they left.
- What's better, watermelons or eagles?

All in all we made more than 15 approaches each that night, and most actually stayed longer than usual so time was flying, the power of persistence and just being cool. We were having an awesome time, but there's only so much you can expect out of stopping girls on the street - i.e., it's not really often going out to pan out to anything more than a cool interaction and some physicality.

So we decide to go to Pat O'Briens, the environment is so much more chill now than during Mardi Gras! Everyone is seated, Brent spies this group of 5 girls and goes for it, and within seconds this one hot blonde has her arms all over him! She's fully all over him. I go and talk to her friends and try to set up a plot Hey, I like the way your friend and my friend look together...let's hook them up Umm yeah actually she's happily married so... WOW! UHHHH....yeah. But Brent is still persisting, he takes her over to the side bar to escalate and I go outside and do 1 or 2 approaches, then come back and try to occupy the friends from cockblocking. 

A whole lot of conspiratorial and spy work later, my wing manages to get the kiss and the #-close, awesome. Gotta love the social secret agent. We head back after a VERY awesome first night

3/7/2009 Day - First attempts at day-gaming

Brent also wanted to try day-gaming today, so we meet up and head down to the French Quarter. I'm amazed that this place is buzzing with people nonstop , even on this random Saturday afternoon. I'm also kinda nervous,come to think of it, never done day game before! So this is gonna be eye-opening.

Walking around and I'm instantly seeing how solid Brent's skills are - he's got no problem going up to girls and usually manages to have them eye-fucking him within seconds. hahah awesome, I'm feeling pretty stifled but remember the rules of the wings set in stone above! Do what your wing says - Brent manages to guilt me into approaching and it actually winds up going pretty well, but the conversation dies down often within a few minutes.

Even still, we're getting mad love from everybody. Highlights

- Seeing the same people over and over and getting eye-fucked relentlessly
- I played a game against a chess master and actually did pretty well (until I lost )
- A group of black ladies saying to both of us, (to Brent) "You are the whitest white boy ever, and (to me) You are the darkest, most handsome, uhhhhhhh....what are you?" Upon which they managed to deduce I was Indian. These ladies actually started gaming us and trying to bring us alone with them, HAHAHAH
- Brent gets called gorgeous by some gay dude and some other (cute!) girl says the same, CHEERS!
- Brent approaches and is literally walking with these 2 girls for what had to have been a quarter of a mile, and manages to #-close the very hot one. props dude, that was sick!

3/7/2009 Night - Learning night. Fury, and DST sucks!

After being thoroughly exhausted by earlier day game walking around, lack of sleep from the previous night. But we're troopers, and I've committed to 3 times a week at least! Brent's made a similar committment, I made sure of it, so this MUST happen.

We head out to Bourbon in very good moods because of how well the past 2 times have gone so far. The opener for tonight - Tim's "I'm sad", since we felt it was time to take the next step and start getting out of comfort zones.

WOW, what proceeded after this was definitely the exact opposite of the successful times of earlier that day and last night. Blowout After Blowout, comparision - we never got blown out within the first 15 seconds last night, here it happened multiple times! We're like...wtf is going on, what are we doing differently. I can't tell anything different in Brent, Brent can't see anything different in me, we're all still positive and smiling.

But even so, "I'm sad" didnt work even once - amazing! I used it on a stripper and even after plowing and remaining unreactive (she actually started investing and building rapport a bit, lol), it was still going nowhere. Then later I tried it on this one girl, and the other one was like OH UH-UHHHH GIRL HE AIN"T NOTHING IGNORE HIM. I ignore it and keep plowing, my target is actually getting into it but after a bit I leave because it's getting ridiculous. More sets that don't even go past the hook later, we head to Razzoo's (HORRIBLE male-female ratio damn! hahah) and I chat up a girl who's watching over her friend's bachelorette party, but it's purely social times and no escalation, only kiss on the cheek.

We go after more, keep the momentum and postivity up! There's no such thing as a bad night, only a learning night. Brent's actual best set were these 2 girls who were getting approached no less than 15 times within a period of 30 minutes, hahah woooooow. But he manages to hook and stay in there for a good amount of time, awesome.

Later we meet up with 2 other guys, who came down from the northshore, Vernon and Jamie. They are cool guys, still inexperienced though but I see a good improvement in them since last time I say him. Vernon, keep smiling! We send them into a few sets which is good for them to desensitize, but being in a group of 4 guys is severly diminishing our ability to constantly be in set (there are just too few targets for 4 people to be continuously approaching!) So we split up and Vernon and Jamie head down one way, I give them the order to tell each other to approach and play the rock-paper-scissors game,  and Brent and I continue the other way. A couple of more sets later but still nothing's really hooking like it was just last night or even earlier today!

And thanks to DST, it's now 3:00 AM. We head down to Felipe's for some damn cheap and damn good tacos. Favorite eating place, for sure. That was some good food.

And as we're walking out ready to walk back to the car, this absolutely gorgeous girl in a black dress makes eye contact with me and I'm lovestruck. Only problem? The super butch lesbian girlfriend arm-in-arm with her, DAMN. I literally cannot resist going up and literally saying exactly what was on my mind, the girl is receptive but the butch gets all threatening HAHAHAHAH. Definitely fury because I would have pounded that girl into oblivion and yet did not know how to get rid of this interloping dyke.

And on that note, it was the end of Saturday night. For sure very different than our last 2 outings, but hey, we enjoy sunshine because we know what rain is. Always be positively reframing things. I still can't figure out what we were doing differently Sat night, if anything at all, but I have a feeling it was just luck of the draw that night. But we made the best of it, at least 15 or so approaches between us and attempting to plow through each and every one.

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Here's to the newly founded "New Orleans crew". Can't wait for the free workshop in May!. From here on out, we're going to try to phase out Bourbon street and start hitting up specific venues, with the intention of long-lasting interactions and not short-lived street approaches. We did fantastic on Friday night and that was the same thing. So here's to what should be an even better next weekend!