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September 7th, 2010
More Social Skills Tips from ROBOTB0NER
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#31

SleepingIn

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Join Date: 04/10/2009 | Posts: 123

great post
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#32

Waus

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Join Date: 07/07/2008 | Posts: 37

thanks for this post.

I could understand this is a great way to connect to people, especially new people. However with people I know better I do like to discuss things at times, not for the sake of winning but experiencing new thoughts, reevaluating my own beliefs, and helping them if I can. If they want it I'll give advice (I see it would be a good point to not do this all the time). I'll state my point but if they don't agree I don't really care, its just my view. If they can convince me of there beliefs I'll agree. If I disagree with someone I don't really know I'll let it slide, don't try to convince them because this will kill the vibe. I can see this does need a  calibration to see if someone generally wants to discuss things of get advice or just wan't to share his thoughts, emotions,(male vs. female?)

am I somewhat correct on the above, RB?
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#33

PdZ75

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Join Date: 07/13/2009 | Posts: 208

Great article, very interesting. I have a question though...

Sometimes, a dude says something that is not true, or even offending. If you focus on the vibe and not try to correct him, he will continue to impose his reality. And continue. And continue. Sometimes he will even ask your opinion to check if you will repeat what he said. You're getting messed with and you both know it, basically. Now, I do agree that this basically reflects my own inability to handle such situations, but it is really hard to let go of the truth without a better 'defense' in place there. Is something like that a waste of time in general (i.e. some people are just assholes, let them be)? What would any of you suggest?
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#34

namrobmal~

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Join Date: 06/30/2008 | Posts: 412

awesome post robot. srsly best I've seen in ages...
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#35
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Join Date: 08/15/2007 | Posts: 1407

Thanks guys.

Waus, I totally agree. Once I get to know someone better, we can start putting our stronger opinions in there because we are now more familiar with each other. Usually when you are best friends with someone, its much easier to not have a craving to "show your value" to him, so giving advice usually comes from a place of love, and not a place of "i am your teacher." Be aware of the difference inside of you and you'll be fine.

PdZ75, great question. This is something that will happen from time to time, though usually if you are coming from a genuine place, it's rare. But from time to time there are those people. What I'm thinking you're talking about is if someone is saying something like, "I think you are gay... you're gay aren't you?" If you respond, "No," he will say, "You're in the closet! Come out and show yourself!" If you say, "Yes," he will speak real loud and go, "This guy is gay! I knew it!"

I find when I am feeling cornered in like this, it's usually that I'm the problem, not him.  He is simply proving that I am the problem.  There's a lot of ways to go about this.  If you refer to my post again, I say that most people just are looking to be liked.  That's all.  By him saying, "You're gay!", he's not trying to make you look dumb, he's trying to make himself look cool.  Laugh with him, it's funny!  Maybe you really do act gay, he might be onto something.

How would you respond to this if your girlfriend ragged on you like this, or your best friend?  I'd probably laugh and say something like, "Well, I do have flamboyant hands, and I used to have a lisp as a kid.  I like this smarty pants side of you, what other things can you tell about me?"  

Just because you care about people doesn't mean you can't be cheeky right back to them.  I believe that guys teasing each other is our way of "dude flirting".  

Here's something I do back to people if they say something I don't like.  I'll look at them with a pissed off face, strong body language, and go, "What the fuck did you just say to me?"  Scare them a bit, then pat them on the back and go, "Just messin' with ya, bro!"

One time I was at a bar with fake thick rimmed glasses.  I looked dorky as hell, and I loved it.  I was walking around slowly, pass this girl and she goes, "You don't look cool in those glasses, they look bad on you."  She said it in a rude way, not teasing or joking.  I was so in nimbus that night, that I didn't even register into my reality.  Seriously, I didn't care what she said so much that I acted as if she wasn't even sitting there.  I didn't do this in a rude way, or a way where it was like, "Fuck you bitch," as that shows a subtle reaction.  I seriously just didn't give a shit so much.  As I kept standing there, she turned to her friend and said, "Did he just totally ignore me?" she goes, "Yeah I think so."

A minute later I hit on that girls friend who said, "Yeah I think so," and she was like, "and by the way, I don't think your glasses are stupid, I think they're hot."  Her friend came up to me later and was like, "Sorry I said that to you, I was in a bad mood."

Every now and then, if someone is just FUCKING ANNOYING THE SHIT OUT OF YOU.  Someone that is relentless, you'll have to be stern and tell him to get the fuck away.  Not in negative way, in a neutral way where you are totally calm.  There's hardly ever a time to do that, as you can easily just walk away from a bro.  No situation is ever that important that you gotta get into a fight.  

Hope this answered your question.
 
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#36

Desmond

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Join Date: 08/11/2008 | Posts: 174

Awesome post robotboner!




Waus Wrote:
thanks for this post.

I could understand this is a great way to connect to people, especially new people. However with people I know better I do like to discuss things at times, not for the sake of winning but experiencing new thoughts, reevaluating my own beliefs, and helping them if I can. If they want it I'll give advice (I see it would be a good point to not do this all the time). I'll state my point but if they don't agree I don't really care, its just my view. If they can convince me of there beliefs I'll agree. If I disagree with someone I don't really know I'll let it slide, don't try to convince them because this will kill the vibe. I can see this does need a  calibration to see if someone generally wants to discuss things of get advice or just wan't to share his thoughts, emotions,(male vs. female?)

am I somewhat correct on the above, RB?

I see it as two separate things... Intellectual discussion and vibing. Both has its time and place, vibing is just more important for pick-up.
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#37
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Join Date: 08/06/2009 | Posts: 16

 That article was mindblowingly awesome! It was one of those articles that fully shifted my perspective.

Thanks!
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