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Riddim's Guide to Get Fit
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#51

pasinglet

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OK basically what's important is if foods are acid or alkaline forming when they are being digested. You obviously wanna be alkaline. Some foods could be acidic in nature but when they are digested they are alkaline forming or vice versa. So the fruits that are acidic in nature are actually alkaline forming in the body. Turns out most fruits/veggies are alkaline forming and animal products are acid forming - as are most grains. Another reason to increase fruits and veggies and minimize animal products!

Here's a more detailed explanation - http://www.rawfoodexplained.com/acid-and-alkaline-substances/acid-and-al...

And I also recommend that site as a great resource for natural hygiene and raw food.
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Measuring food content and ingredients and what not seems too complicated for my liking.

I just work on, if food comes from the ground or straight from the animal, it's good healthy food. I don't worry about measuring calories or macronutrient ratios or any of that nonsense.

I'm training for a marathon, then doing a few triathlons and hopefully an Ironman by the end of the year. Hopefully. As far as I'm concerned, the more food the better.

I don't go to a gym, or watch my diet, I eat a lot of chocolate, and drink a lot. I'd say I'm in reasonably good shape. I can see my six pack, but I think I'd only really truly care what food I was eating, if I was doing an expidition across the Antarctic or something. All of this dieting is linked with vanity and vanity is a bit gay in my book
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pasinglet wrote:
OK basically what's important is if foods are acid or alkaline forming when they are being digested. You obviously wanna be alkaline. Some foods could be acidic in nature but when they are digested they are alkaline forming or vice versa. So the fruits that are acidic in nature are actually alkaline forming in the body. Turns out most fruits/veggies are alkaline forming and animal products are acid forming - as are most grains. Another reason to increase fruits and veggies and minimize animal products!

Here's a more detailed explanation - http://www.rawfoodexplained.com/acid-and-alkaline-substances/acid-and-al...

And I also recommend that site as a great resource for natural hygiene and raw food.




I would like to see you take on this guy's challenge. 
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jlaix wrote:
I know a vegan bodybuilder and he's pretty big and ripped.

But that might be from all the testosterone and dbols he's taking.

Rofl, yes, probably :P.
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#57

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NastyMick wrote:
Measuring food content and ingredients and what not seems too complicated for my liking.

I just work on, if food comes from the ground or straight from the animal, it's good healthy food. I don't worry about measuring calories or macronutrient ratios or any of that nonsense.


I don't do that either, walking around with (physical or mental) spreadsheets, logs and calculators for eating is a bit too much for me as well.

I use your same formula.   If it's no artificial preservatives, coloring or flavoring, it's good to go. 

Question:
1. My only thing is sucralose occasionaly.  As I restrict myself to one glass of juice a day, sometimes water makes me sick and I'll drink a health drink or vitamin water.  No artificial preservers, coloring or flavors...but with sucralose.   I don't know if sucralose is as bad as aspartame, sodium (from chemicals), etc.

2. Where do you stand on condiments like seasoning for meats, dressing for salad or ketchup?
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#58

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SamtheGladiator wrote:






I would like to see you take on this guy's challenge. 



Its funny that you post that because I actually followed Sean for awhile. I agree with him on a lot of the fundamental stuff. And I've gone through these arguments many times, so yes I'm up for the challenge.

First off lets make it clear that I didn't become a vegan for animal rights. I am not a eco-freak. I am simply interested in the truth. The truth is that humans are not anatomically, digestively, or physiologically designed or evolved to consume meat or animal products.

Now, as for him saying that only small % of people can do a vegetarian diet, he lumping all vegetarian or vegan diets together or he's basing that on his "metabloic typing" principles.  This whole idea about being "biochemically unique" is nonsense. This is exactly why we have EXACT calorie measurements on foods. If two people get different amounts of calories from a food it has to do not with their biochemical uniqueness, but their digestive integrity or health levels, if the foods were eaten with antangonists at the same time, how well the food is chewed, and many other factors. You give me two people who have a very cleaned up diet, and they will digest the same apple or the same piece of broccoli the EXACT same way.

What happens with people of the Metabolic Typing ilk, is that they sell people on this "unique as a snowflake" routine. Which is nonsense, but everyone loves to hear that for some reason. Everyone's fingerprint is "unique as a snowflake" same with everyone's eyeballs. Yet we all have eyes that function the exact same way. Light comes in, it is reflected, sent through the optic nerve to the back of the brain where we "see". Everyone has the same function.

They know that there are "fast" oxidizers and "slow" oxidizers. He thus recommends more protein for the fast ones (because in theory they will run out of "fuel" on too many carbs, lol) and more carbs for the slow oxidizers. This is 100% PURE bunkum. Slow oxidizers are not born that way, and they are not destined to always be that. A slow oxidizer is bascially just a sedentary person, as you could imagine.

Another problem is they say "well it's based on your genes and so on from your ancestors". Fair enough...then why do you have to do a questionnaire/survey to determine my MT? LOL! Why not a GENETIC test, if you are saying it's a genetic thing? And if it is a genetic thing...what genes in particular are the ones you are referring to? Which chromosome? What effect do they have/not have on the digestive 'unqiueness' of my body?

Guess these people never got that far in their prolepsis seminars, HA!

OK next. Every single nutrient, yes including b12 is sufficiently provided by the correct diet.  Our gut bacteria actually produces b12. The big debate now is: Perhaps the gut bacteria do produce b12, but maybe they just don't produce enough. And that's why we might need to get it from outside sources.

However, B12 deficiency is an ABSORBTION issue, not a lack of it fom the diet. It's common across all diets. In fact, vegans tend to not have problems with b12. It is vegetarians who also consume grains and milk that have the most problems. Those vegetarians are probably the most unhealthy "healthy" people around. So the problem is - consuming more grain depletes your stomach of its ability to produce intrinsic factor. Now you have no ability to assimilate b12. Now you have a problem. And now you go to the doctor, they tell you about your deficiency, and also give you the "tisk tisk" look and tell you to "come back down to earth" and have some meat and milk and eggs and cheese and you do and you see your b12 levels rise and you feel great and now you are stuck thinking veganism is a big hoax, or whatever it is you wanna think.

The more I talk to people about Natural Hygiene and a fruit based, veggie complemented diet they just give me arguments which compare this diet with a grain-based vegan, or a malnourished raw fooder or whatever else they can find.  It's like me telling someone who is advocating the Weston A Price approach ( high animal meat, milk (raw), and veggies etc ) that their diet is the same as someone who eats hotdogs, milkshakes from wendys and freezer microwave veggie bowls. It is like taking a cheap shot. It's just so stupid. I get so sick of it.

Anyway, fruits are very high in vitamins including vitamin A. If somehow you are deficient, you're just not eating enough, in which you'll be deficient in a lot of things.  Vitamin D you get from the sun. Soy is not part of this diet and neither is textured vegetable protein (TVP). Lol. Natural hygiene would obviously be against processed foods.

That's about it. If you got any questions, let me know. Peace.
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#59

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pasinglet wrote:

The truth is that humans are not anatomically, digestively, or physiologically designed or evolved to consume meat or animal products.

That's about it. If you got any questions, let me know. Peace.



Why do I have canine and incisor teeth? For all those tough skinned vegetables...? Riiiight. We are omnivores, get over it.

Both samthegladiator and pasinglet are missing the point. No one on this board wants to read page after page of research. People want simple tips they can follow TODAY and give them better habits for tomorrow. This thread is not about who is right or wrong, or who is smart and who is dumb.

It is about measurable results in the REAL WORLD
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Riddim wrote:

 No one on this board wants to read page after page of research. People want simple tips they can follow TODAY and give them better habits for tomorrow. This thread is not about who is right or wrong, or who is smart and who is dumb.

It is about measurable results in the REAL WORLD

I want to, so obviously SOMEONE does. 

This discussion is getting the right basis for the simple tips TO BE effective and give measurable, real world results. 


PS. Sorry for hijacking your thread
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