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January 18th, 2018
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 Went out tonight.  First night out after taking 2 off, really makes me feel like I just need to go out 7 days a week.  Today during the day I wasn't nearly on point as I had been with my wit and just overall clarity of mind, and then tonight I was just trying to do too much and forgetting the real reason that I'm going out for a short period of time on a Tuesday, and that's just to get into state.

Anyways, night wasn't too bad, I'm definitely starting to be remember out.  The bouncer greeted me warmly and asked how my weekend was, the bartender gave me a free beer, and the first set I opened, every girl in it confirmed that they'd met me before.  LOL not sure exactly what this means, but I can't let it affect what I do and make me afraid to take action, if anything its probably a good thing since if girls have met you several times before they'd be a lot more likely to go home with you or something since they're more comfortable around you.

Actually I think that this could be a really good thing, since I remember a hot blonde waving high to me and smiling from across the set, as if we were old pals.  Not that I remember this girl at all, but I should just assume that I know them and say 'how've you been' and whatnot.  Shit half the girls I open think that they know me anyways just because I already open them as such.  I think I could be onto something here.

Anyways, a couple more sets in the night, one longer one that just kept stalling out on me even though I think one of the girls was really interested.  Practicing getting into state becomes a lot harder if you just recently woke up from a nap.  Again tho, I need to remember that that's all these nights are, practicing getting into state, and apparently also networking with hot girls that remember me.  

I'm actually not suprised that these girls remember me since a lot of times when I open them low key early on they are very attracted and interested but they don't want to make the first move, and its generally still too early in the night for me to.  I dunno.  I'm prolly over thinking it at this point so I'll just stop and continue to go out :P  Rock on.
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 Went out tonight.  Was feeling a little bit of 'why am I doing this' angst before I went out, largely because of having a day job and not being able to really go out hard til the end of the night during the week.  Then I kind of realized that during the week is just practice getting into state and interacting, and for pulling phone numbers.  Weekends will be for pulling same night ass.

Anyways I went out and just acted congruent to my blah half asleep state and actually talked about how I'm worried that having a day job will affect my going out.  Lol just literaly be how you're feeling and talk about whats on your mind and that will work.

Found a cute 2 set sitting on the couches and approached.  Going pretty well.  Friend leaves and I sit down.  We chat for awhile and its fun and all that.  Go for a makeout, no go, also I started to feel anxious right before I did this because I thought that I probably should go for the makeout...perhaps not the best way to go into it but I still think its good to try.

Took the number and she programmed her name in my phone and then put my name in hers.  Good sign I suppose, but I've learned not to get too excited about numbers.  And also they'll just only get in my way of going out which further lessens their importance.

I had no movement in my dong tho, as Jeffy would talk about.  That's definitely something that I want to work on, is allowing myself to feel sexual and then acting from there unapologetically.  I think that without that when I try to go sexual it comes off as slightly incongruent.  

Like when I went in for the makeout tonight, its not because there was a huge amount of sexual tension or anything, it was more that I wanted to make out with her 1.) to validate myself and feel better about the interaction, and 2.) so that she would know that this was a sexual man-to-woman thing.  This last one should already be well established tho.  Something to work on.  Rock on.
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i dunno, movement in your dong when you're meeting, i'm deciding this is not necessary.  

not a concept aligned w social momentum.  to me momentum is more key.  thats why you talk to not only dongdastic girlz.  
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UtopiaFive wrote:
i dunno, movement in your dong when you're meeting, i'm deciding this is not necessary.  

not a concept aligned w social momentum.  to me momentum is more key.  thats why you talk to not only dongdastic girlz.  


I think movement in the dong is not only absolutely helpful, whatever you feel they feel, etc., but I think that its also a progression along the way to greatness because you are then allowing yourself to feel sexual around hotter and hotter girls, as opposed to just approval seeking.  Allowing yourself to feel sexual around hot girls is proof of higher status.

You also must be continually raising your standards.  I don't even approach girls below a certain level anymore as the interaction never goes well because they put up their auto-reject shield on me, they blow me out as a self-defense mechanism.  Its kind of a good barometer of where you're at and also forces you to keep moving up, and IMO if anyone is not experiencing this after having been in the game for a while, and taking a step back to look at the bigger picture may be necessary.

EDIT: I suppose my last point there is somewhat state dependent, since if you're in just kind of a blahh state then the less attractive girls wouldn't be so likely to auto-reject you and yea I'll use those to help myself get into state too.  I guess my only point was that when you're not in a blahh state, you should be seeing these girls autoreject you, and you should be getting into a clearer and clearer headspace over time, and hence raising standards.
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 Went out tonight.  Exhausted and almost didnt, I didn't get my nap today, but I just couldn't let up on my goal of every day until I go home for christmas.  Did a few sets, nothing special really, or maybe there was and I'm just too tired to think about them lol.  Every night out is a good night.
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Went out.  Blahhh. Good learning night.  Kind of realized that often I wasn't being physical enough, so I tried to be more physical tonight, and my calibration is definitely somthing I need to work on.

I was still also getting a lot of 'nice to meet you's' tonight (and just overall I've probably been getting far more than I should).  Just need to work on physicality and calibration and pushing the set as far as it will go.

I talk a lot about raising standards, and I know that I should, but sometimes when you're out its just hard because you want a girl to respond well to you at some point, and so you start lowering your standards.  Just keeping going out and keep raising everythin up. 
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 Went out with the intention of being more physical and dominant from the get go.  I can have pretty solid verbals at times, and is probably my strongest point, and I've come to learn that I rely on it wayy too much.  I'm at my best usually in a more low key setting versus a super high energy night club.  TIME TO GET PHYSICAL.

Its crazy how much better of responses I got tonight versus last, just going in being dominant and confident and PHYSICAL right from the get go.  Girls definetly respond to that being a man shit and escalation a lot more than trying to talk your way into their pants.

One set I tried to pull a girl within the first few minutes, and she wouldn't go but she absolutely loved the fact that I tried.  In Ozzie's physical game book he talks about how he went an entire month going out and every single girl he approached he tried to pull.  He pulled a lot and also learned a lot in the process.  Something to keep in mind.

Calibration wasn't always there and sometimes I would still go in kind of half assed and not really believing in myself and what I was doing, and it showed.  I need to calibrate it and I just need to continue to get more and more comfortable being out approaching.  The day that I can consistently feel as comfortable in the club as I do in my living room is the day that I really start pulling a lot of ass.

Going physical, also a great screening mechanism for those who aren't down, rather than chatting for a while only to realize she's in a serious relationship.  You get right to the meat of what you want, you put it out there without trying to pick them up under false pretenses.  You're not wasting their time nor yours and you're being a MAN.

I still got a few nice to meet you's, which is lame, and only tells me that I need to push shit harder, I think it will all come with calibration and working on the claw.  Shaking hand with a girl and holding her hand for as long as possible.  Keeping that body contact.  That physicality.  

I was going to say that then I also need something to talk about, but I think that's irrelevant.  I think just be physical and be comfortable and present enough to just let the words flow and that is BY FAR the best way to go about it.  Definitely got up close with a ton more girls tonight than last night, and definitely had some dong movement going on.  This is what its about.  I just feel so much better tonight.
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 Holy shit.  Going out repeatedly and just taking emotional blow after emotional blow can be incredibly hard to work through, but it's also one of the most beneficial things for you in the long run.

For much of the day today I just had this really weird feeling in my body just from having my reality and my sense of self broken down so much over the past days.  It's like you take that weak personality along with the ego structures around it and just mercilessly beat it into the ground.  And when you're feeling like this is when you resist all urges to slow down, but rather just keep pummeling this part of yourself so far into oblivion for so long that it dare not rear its ugly head again for fear of being struck down.

Definitely realized after watching that chodes night out video that I've been taking the whole social world wayy too seriously, but I'm not really sure what else to do about it besides just keep going out and trying to kill that part of me.  Tyler says in BP that eventually you reach a point of indifference, I guess thats a good ephemeral goal to shoot for.

Anyways, out tonight and I'm really realizing that the best way to be is, 1.) physical, and 2.) complete and total lack of censor.  When you can just let your mouth run and say whatever even if it doesn't make sense, that is how fun interactions and coversation happen.  Furthermore, just the lack of censor and lack of self-consciousness IS MUCH HIGHER VALUE.

So much of tonight was hard just because I was still feeling the effects of breaking down my sense of self, and I even remember gulping as I tried to pull a girl in.  I remember my first set with the look of practically begging her to get off the couch to come say hi to me.  

And then I remember approaching a 2 set and just saying whatever and doing this weird shit with my hands and having it working...at least for longer than my previous two sets.  

My last set of the night was a blonde where I jsut started talking nonsense from 10 feet away and then approached still talking nonsense.  She said something about honesty, and I whispered in her ear and we were pressed up against each other that 'honesty would be simply telling her that I wanted to take her home and fuck her..but we couldn't be that honest now could we?'  She loved it.

Reading Radical Honesty right now, and its actually incredibly good, just being honest about everything...people genuinely respect it and its also sooo much easier and requires less effort from you because you don't need to go in your head to think of what to say, you just say exactly whatever you are thinking.  It's also pretty impossible then to get something you don't want to since you are always being honest about what you do want.

Anyways, keep up the storm.
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 Alright went out tonight.  Didn't go out the past couple nights due to job crisis and whatnot.  Tis all good tho.

Opened a couple sets and really realized that there is no middle ground.  If you want to be physical but think its weird but still try it comes off as this gay ass halfway shit.  No worky.

What also sucks is not feeling comfortable jsut standing and chatting but rather feeling like you need to be physical in order to be comfortable.

Anyways, super excited to start trying this new line of "I just want to fuck you [and never talk to you again]"...legitimately.  I think when said congruently and not flinching or retreating into your mind after they laugh and potentially shit test you, this could be gold.

My roommate has a hot whorish friend and she said that she's fucked many guys after they said this.  Of course usually you'd still need to stay and chat for at least a little bit afterwards, but I think that the line said with confidence just says sooo much about you and its being HONEST with the girl and stating your intention and not feeling like you need to do all this gamey shit just to earn the right to sleep with her.  Super low status behavior.

I think that going out and saying this could be gold and would far beat what I'm currently doing, and in addition it would keep me centered and feeling sexual, rather than running around overexerting myself and putting myself in that third space (so to speak).

Girls just wanna be fucked and everyone respects honesty.  If you just go up as a cool dude and don't feel the need to do all this other shit which only conveys lower value then I think this should really work.

Really excited to try this becuase I think its going to make up a missing piece in my game since often I fall into the 'this would be a great guy to date' role and hence a girl is much less likely to fuck on the first night. It would also just save me from doing a bunch of bullshit.  Lol alright, enough excitement about this, time to go do it.  Peace.
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 Went out tonight.  Don't chase, replace.  If you get split off from a girl for some reason, trying to get her back is just scarcity mindset: that there would be a dearth of other girls in the bar that would find you attractive.

I think a lot of my better nights are when I'm tired, and largely because then I really don't put forth too much effort or energy, and definitely stay more centered.

I read some of Wild Nights by David Deida before going out, if you haven't read it then do so.  My set that I pulled tonight, very early on I asked her 'When was the last time you got fucked', like REALLY FUCKED.  Lol the girl loved it and was more just in shock that I said that.  From there lead her around the bar a little bit.  Talked about phish which is super easy for me to get passionate about.  then pulled her home.  Didn't fuck but just fooled around for a while.

My other sets of the night were overall very good, very chill.  I went up largely with the mindset of 'trying to open these girls to god by fucking them'...or something like that.  But really just being chill and holding strong eye contact and saying hi, this type of approach is so money, that I wonder why I ever get away from it sometimes at all.  Its all just about holding your center.

And SCREEN.  When you're in state don't waste your time talking to unattractive girls or girls without a good vibe.  I opened a couple of these by accident and then just ejected pretty quickly.  Continuous raising of standards.

Rock on, good night: held my center very well and interacted from there = BEING GENUINE and being honest.  Held strong eye contact, when combined with authenticity will make any girl attracted to you, and if you are able to hold your center and not overexert yourself, your interactions will always go well.  Fuck yea.
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