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October 21st, 2017
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PUA of the Future

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 Went out tonight.  Starting think that this counting sets thing is probably not a good idea, since if you're just firing them off boom boom boom getting excited and just having fun, to stop and count how many you just did definitely pulls you out of state.  I wanted a quantifiable standard of how much I put into this (and something to hold myself accountable), but it looks like the best thing may be just to go out 3-4 nights a week and open a minimum of 10 sets per night.  Maybe count in the beginning just to remind yourself that you need to be approaching, but after that just flow with it.

So anyways after tonight Im really thinking that I just need to start gaming the hotter girls.  The slightly overweight 6 is just such easy game for me, and I kind of enjoy it because it's easy and that within 20 seconds of approaching she's all over me giving me validation and keeping my state up.  With the hotter girls this isn't the case and you must continue to draw state from within and actually run game, not just stand there at look at her till she's ready to go home.  You don't get better playing in the amateurs forever.

So yea there was a 6 or so tonight who was super into me and definitely seeming down.  Pulled her to another bar.  Pulled her to my truck, she even verbally acknowledged that we were going home for sex.  She freaked out about her car and she needed to get it or she'd get another ticket.  OK.  We chatted and she still seemed to be deciding whether or not to come home with me.

She gets in her car and follows me to my place.  We lie down in my bed and she's barely kissing me.  I get on top and start kissing her neck and shit.  Then she's all 'omg I'm seeing someone' and like freaks out and needs to leave.  wtf.  alright whatever.  I really didn't even care cuz she wasn't that hot and I did get laid the previous night so its all good.

Whatever.  Time to start working on the hotter girls consistently so that I can actually improve my game.  Pulling these 6's is too easy and it really takes nothing on my part, I know exactly how its gonna go down every time (...well almost lol).  Rock on.
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 Still sounds like a fun night! 
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dave7 wrote:
 Still sounds like a fun night! 
Lol yea man no complaints here, any night out where you're pushing your comfort zone and trying/learning new things is a good night.  It was good meetin up with you tonight tho brief as it was, and hopefully I can see ya again round christmas time and we can rage.  NO EXCUSES.

Anyways my night out was pretty good.  Before going out I was kind of apprehensive and was considering rationalizing myself out of going out, but its like wtf else would I do.  And then after 30 mins of being out I was literally laughing out loud that I was ever nervous about going there, I mean wtf is there to be nervous about?  They're just girls and they're all cute and silly and cuddly (well at least some of them).

Definitely realized how much tonight I just want to go for the hotter girls, and for a number of reasons.  Me being who I am, it just feels so weird and unnatural to be mackin on a six or some shit, 7 is definitely the lowest I'll like actually go from here on out, but even with that I plan to be gaming the hottest girls in the venue every night because THAT is what feels natural, not to try and fake attraction for some ugly chick.  I'm also realizing how few hot girls there are in Denver lol.

Danced closely with some super cutie from LA for a bit and this is what kind of cemented that in, I fucking love the hot girls and thats also the most natural way for me to do it because they are ALWAYS attracted to me when I open as I am them.  When I open the lesser girls they're either confused and don't know how to handle it or just auto-reject.

I think another reason I had been having trouble progressing forward, because when I open these lesser girls and they auto-reject me, I would just see it as rejection and just think 'man well if these girls won't even talk to me how could I possibly step to the dime piece'.  LOL after taking some time off I apparently was able to get the proper perspective.  Looking forward to continuing to game and bang the hotties.

Anyways after meeting up with Dave and chatting for a minute we approached this 3 set, mexican girls, and the rest of my night was spoken in Spanish.  Kind of fun really since I havent spoken Spanish in a while and its a good way to keep from losing it.

Lead her around and she was super into me, make out, lead, whatever.  At a certain point I try to pull and she's not having it.  I try again, still not having it.  Lol its tough for me to keep my state and just go about business as it was after shit like this happens, but I guess that's where drawing state from within comes in.

Stuck with her anyways though and I feel like at a certain point she was just using me because her friends were with guys and she didn't want to be by herself.  Not a good feeling, but I stuck anyways and ended up feeling like constricted or some shit like you can feel when you have a girlfriend lol.

There's only so much you can do though after you've already lead her around, danced, made out, laughed, tried to pull and failed...I mean to go back to anything else is like moving backwards and its just weird.  Not sure what the best thing to do would have been.  Probably just tell her peace and try to find another especially since a phone number where I need to communicate in Spanish likely won't go anywhere, not that I should be relying on phone numbers anyways.  

Anyways all I know is I won't let a girl pull me out of state by keeping me in set anymore, which is kind of a weird concept to begin with lol and perhaps also a testament to my rising star, that these girls want something from me.  

Anyways looking forward to continuing this shit and to continue progressing.  Probably gonna go out tmrw at least for a little bit if I don't have a date, the seven nights a week thing even if only for 20 mins sounds appealing.  Rock on.
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PUA of the Future wrote:

dave7 wrote:
 Still sounds like a fun night! 
Lol yea man no complaints here, any night out where you're pushing your comfort zone and trying/learning new things is a good night.  It was good meetin up with you tonight tho brief as it was, and hopefully I can see ya again round christmas time and we can rage.  NO EXCUSES.


Yes sir. Denver seems fun man. No excuses for 7 nights a week? 
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PUA of the Future wrote:

dave7 wrote:
 Still sounds like a fun night! 
Lol yea man no complaints here, any night out where you're pushing your comfort zone and trying/learning new things is a good night.  It was good meetin up with you tonight tho brief as it was, and hopefully I can see ya again round christmas time and we can rage.  NO EXCUSES.


Yes sir. Denver seems fun man. No excuses for 7 nights a week? 
Mehhh yes no excuses lol.  I was definitely on the fence about going out tonight but legitmately just you saying this and holding me accountable helped me to go out.  That and my options were either go out or sit at home...so kind of easy choice while I'm still unemployed.  We'll see what happens when I start my new job on thurs...but still no excuses right?

Anyways I went out downtown. Christ sundays are dead.  Shag Lounge at about 10 pm had no one in it.  Front porch had a couple people but I hate approaching in bars with no one in them.  Alright now Im just choding and I know it. 

Walk into this pool hall that I've actually never been in before and I see three girls in the corner just chillin.  I grab a beer and approach.  Medium attractive girl of the 3 welcomes me in.  We're chilling and whatever.  

I had my one beer but I'm trying not to drink too much because i want to generate that state from within rather than from alcohol.  My vibe and my verbals are suffering as a result.  Well its something I got to work on.

This girls sister's purse ends up getting stolen and so theres all kinds of drama.  I got the phone number after that and given the circumstances of getting it I feel like its pretty solid.  We'll see though.

Just drives me crazy though, a lack of being able to feel good and just chill without the constant validation.  Sunday night pool hall is different from Saturday night club because its soo much quieter and you can't just up and pull a girl to the dancefloor whenever you feel like it.  You're more stuck with whatever's there.  O well. I'll get more comfortable over time.  Rock on.
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 Bahh went out tonight.  Frustrating cuz I really got it on with this chick but then she didn't even want to come home with me.  I thought her little sister was going to be an obstacle but then at the end of the night when I'm pulling out all the stops her lil sis is actually supportive of me going and fucking her sister.  But then her sister points at me and says 'you're not going to win'.  Fuck.  Cuz it really did feel like losing.  And it also felt like losing when just 10 minutes before I took her number.  DAMMIT!  Lol o well.. I guess there could be worse problems.

Anyways, I watched this video:



before going out and I reallyyy didn't want to go out based on being tired and based on the fact that I hate going out when no one is out just because there are so few people in the bar and if you fuck up it looks bad.  Lol what my mind hasn't caught onto yet is that most people perceive me as a really cool guy and so why wouldn't they want to talk to me so long as I'm congruent.

Which leads me into discussing the topic of the above video, which is freakin phenomenal.  I was exhausted before going out and would have felt awful about not going out, plus I wanted to put these new concepts I learned into practice since you pretty much need to before you try to learn anything else or else you're really not doing yourself any favors.

Anyways, exhausted from soccer and didn't want to go out, but I decided I would and just be congruent to being tired and not really feeling like doing much and see if this shit would work.  Looks like it did lol.

Open the one 2 set in the bar and it went the whole night.  My congruence was a probably a 9 or 10 to begin with but my charisma not nearly as high.  But of course as the interaction goes on your charisma goes up as well.  Just vibe and enjoy the night and don't be apologetic of your desires as a man.  Sure you're there and you're having fun and there's nothing overtly sexual, but the girls know that the reason you're talking to them is looking for a potential mate, so don't try to deny this.

Anyways turns out I have a lot in common with this girl, which imo is what ended up killing me at the end of the night when going for the pull.  I was strong and definitely a bit of an ass at times, but I still portrayed myself so much as being a guy this girl would love to date.  Its just hard to turn this shit off, and when we have so many things like that in common of course we're going to talk about them.

I remember Brad writing a post saying that he used to go on a lot of dates that went super well and fairly romantic, but then the girl didn't want to sleep with him right away because she looked at him as total boyfriend material.  Probably what happened here since at the end of the night we were super close and making out and she was definitely very turned on, but then didn't want to go home with me.

I should probably find that article and read it again, but hey so long as I'm getting these types of nights out AND banging the girls later on then I guess there's not too much to be concerned about.  I remember Jeffy saying that he definitely gets more lays off day 2s than he does same night pulls.  I guess just for my current short-term mating strategy I'd rather not take two nights to do what I could potentially be doing in one.

Which brings me to my next topic of discussion which is that I finally just really had the epiphany of why I dont want to have a girlfriend right now.  I mean I'm starting my new job soon, and the day to day work itself may not be the best, but at least I will be seriously working towards something in terms of pick-up and overall self-development.

Pick-up is so good for me its rediculous.  Since getting back into this I have been voraciously reading and watching self-development videos and journaling a ton more.  I know that this is so good for me for so many reasons in terms of overall self-development and actualization, let alone what it would do for my sex life.  Without this right now (aka with a girlfriend) I'd probably just rescind a whole lot more back into passivity and complacency.  

Anyways, very glad I went out tonight, just not sure what I'm going to do once I start work at 8:30 am 5 days a week since going out for only 20 minutes seems like its going to be incredibly tough if my sets keep hooking this hard.  Rock on and looking forward to seeing what the future will bring.

EDIT:  The reason I didn't get laid tonight is because when all the cards were being sorted out at the end of the night and I was trying to pull her home I gave a fuck whether or not she came home with me, and therefore she did not want to.  You can't even give a little bit of a fuck.
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 That's why 7 nights a week is awesome, b/c you have cool nights like that on a monday. On my lower level, I can relate to that problem with the girls who I have a lot in common with. I tend to get excited and then I get "attached" to the girl b/c I think we have a connection, and girls seem to really not like that kind of "attached-connection". But that's a great shit test in a way, where the universe is really testing you hard, to see if you can keep it cool and outcome dependent when you meet girls you have lots in common with. 
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dave7 wrote:
 That's why 7 nights a week is awesome, b/c you have cool nights like that on a monday. On my lower level, I can relate to that problem with the girls who I have a lot in common with. I tend to get excited and then I get "attached" to the girl b/c I think we have a connection, and girls seem to really not like that kind of "attached-connection". But that's a great shit test in a way, where the universe is really testing you hard, to see if you can keep it cool and outcome dependent when you meet girls you have lots in common with. 


For me its not even that we have a connection because I purposefully block out any thoughts like that if they pop in (and they still do from time to time).  Watch the above video.  For me its just that I want to fuck them, but really its just that I'll get something more from the sex than just sex, I'll get a slightly increased sense of self and accopmlishment, and that's whats unattractive because it shows a certain level of scarcity. 

"Girls want the guy that's already oversexed and can either take or leave another lay" - paraphrased from TD

Definitely learned this lesson from a run I went on last summer during a 30dc where I legitimately stopped caring whether or not I kept having sex and ended up getting lays off just that feeling.  Time to bring that shit back son.
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You can't not give even a little bit of a fuck
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I id write mote but droid is fail. And im watching people ice skate. But imp for a Monday night that seems pretty legit. When you start working. You can realisticly stay out till 1 3 or 4 mid week nights and still be alive at work. Granted im not one to talk as I never go out midweek but im positive if u want to keep the momentium up while u work u can . If anything work will help since u will be social all day. Not that gibson isn't social but still :)I its only a matter of time till I wake up to the sounds of chicks screaming nightly. Do work son. Ill try todrink less andbe more helpful on the weekends too :)I love playmate.no homo. And fuck droid txt errors
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 Yeah you're on a whole other level from my "attachment" issues lol. I can get the disney connection shit so I have to get rid of that. It's awesome that you purposefully block out thoughts about connection. That's what I need to work on I think. 

I watched that video again, it's one of my favorites, and some reason it really resonated with me this time, especially the "ice" part. Seriously I had a pretty sweet night. 


"Girls want the guy that's already oversexed and can either take or leave another lay" - paraphrased from TD

Definitely learned this lesson from a run I went on last summer during a 30dc where I legitimately stopped caring whether or not I kept having sex and ended up getting lays off just that feeling. Time to bring that shit back son."


Bring that shit back! Dude if you go out every day like you're doing, you will rage shit to the max! Like 12 lays a month!
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