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January 20th, 2017
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Saturday

Great night.

Had a day2 with the girl from Friday. Pulled her back here and had some wine but she bailed once it started to get too physical. ("call me tomorrow!"). lol

Big lesson for day2s is to get past wanting it to work well, and convey more sexuality. The girl needs to know we're gonna have sex asap.

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I head out about 10:30 and meet up with Cat and GameAndWatch, who shares a story about anal sex in his work building the night prior. Winning.

We all hit the closest bar and GameAndWatch 30-second games me (must approach in 30 seconds or get a shoulder punch). I walk into one and start spitting. Don't even remember this set at all. Next one some girl ~6 girl gives me the stink eye and I stay in for a good 3 minutes just vommitting words. They are really not having it hahaha.

A few minute later I'm walking through the crowd and a girl is behind me, and I open her with something. She doesn't know she's supposed to stop at first, but I keep talking and she gets drawn in.

It was really cool self-generating momentum in this set. Every sentence is smoother than the last.

After a couple of minutes I get on a ridiculous verbal roll and she's in love with me. I tell her she looks like a Labrador (don't even know how I come up with these things) and she's like "omg that's my favorite kind of dog how did you know??". Just goes to show, once you're really in, anything you say will somehow go your way. I tell her that people think I look like a bulldog because I have a severe underbite and a wrinkly face :)

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After we kiss, I'm just leaning back slowly and intermittently talking nonsense, and she's leaning against me grabbing me. Absolutely crazy how well game works when you're on point.

Her friends are somewhere else and I pull her outside of the bar. Figure out logistics. She lives about a mile away, so we go to a bar about halfway there.

We get there and she has a mini state break (read: from 100% to 90% in love with me), so she's not down to go straight to her place. I say fine. It's after 12:00 and I want to finish out the rest of my night. I take her number and tell her I'll her/meet her later. She complains that I won't and ends up being right haha. She wasn't all that hot and I wanted to get a full night in. #DontFuckTheWarmup

I head back and meet the other guys. Cat's in with a hottie I noticed earlier as is GameAndWatch.

It's funny, when I see this shit now -- the other guys in the crew killing it with the hottest girls in any given bar -- I just think "of course".

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The next hour is great.

I wing with GameAndWatch and we 30-second game each other over and over. It's funny because when it gets below 10 you're not worried about anything but being punched. I open direct on a girl who's obviously with her boyfriend, and do a few other hard ones.

I get enough momentum from this that I start doing hard ones on my own.

Walking down the street once I've built up this kind of momentum is fucking crazy. There literally must be something supernatural about it. Girls sitting in booths with their backs facing me literally turn around and stare. Girls with their boyfriends do the same thing. I have no idea how a change in mood makes this possible, but literally everything changes.

I see a girl I opened earlier, then realize it's not her, and go ask her where GameAndWatch is anyway. "Oh, haha wrong person blah blah blah". This actually works surprisingly well because she's with guys and an overprotective girlfriend. Cat comes out of nowhere and wings like a boss. Her friends are lame and drag her away. I re-open her later and it goes well again but logistics are rough.

Several more that are a lot like that.

It's after 1:00 and Cat is trying to pull a girl he's been seeing and GameAndWatch takes off. The last hour is a bit slower. I'd been running on no sleep and I kind of burnt out I think.

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1. Learned a lot on Saturday. The main thing I want to go over are some thoughts on momentum, state, process, etc.

The analogy I've made before is that momentum/state is like momentum in sports. It's very, very real and important, but you can't try to create it. You just play as well as you can and it will sometimes happen. So the same thing with game: just play as well as you can wherever you're at in the current moment and more often than not you'll gain momentum.

That being said, whether or not I get into state or not, I have to stick to a process that will consistently generate momentum for me (and even when it doesn't, stick to it until it does).

Thinking back to hitting on the girl I almost pulled, there is really nothing more needed. All that's really needed is being completely relaxed and having no filter. I could pull 10s with the same game I spit at her.

So for me, and I suppose for a lot of people, the issue is entirely mental/emotional. Nothing else is really needed for me right now except to be able to feel and act like that in more situations. Part of it is an entitlement thing, which will come more and more with time, but the main thing is the process. I think the biggest step forward that I can take right now is commit to a process that works, rather than letting the night go however it will.

Things like approach the first girl you see when you walk in, 30-second game, not being out of set for X minutes and so on will REALLY help me if I make rules for myself and stick to them. I'm gonna think it over and apply it starting Thursday. It doesn't matter if I get in state every time or not. Every night where I go out and go through the right actions is a good night.

Cheers
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Friday

It's amazing to me what a change in mindset I've had. Early in this journal I remembered entire conversations. Now I have trouble even remembering what happened a few nights ago.

One thing I've thought while reading through other FRs here is that you can basically tell how good someone in by what they focus on in their field reports.

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I went out around 11 and met up with Big, Cat and some of the other guys.

I think the first one I do is a group of 3 girls at a table. Big wings. I get my girl's number but she's leaving the next day so it has to be tonight or nothing. We decide to try to meet them later.

Run into some girl I pulled but didn't fuck a few months ago (seems to be a theme lately hahaha) and she's all over my dick as usual. Too flakey though. I don't have much patience these days for girls who expect too much from me and give too little. When you can pull a new girl of equal calibur on any given night, jumping through hoops seems laughable.

Big and I wing most of the night. Cat finds a girl he's hooked up with before and continues his ridiculous streak -- dude's fucking on fire lately.

Sometimes I forget how awesome it is winging with these guys. When people around you are killing it so hard, you get this "better keep up!" mentality. It's like you all bring each other up constantly and grow together.

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I chase down some hottie on the street. Goes well, but I think I needed Big to leave us 1 on 1 here. Sometimes we'll "double team" girls (which is awesome and something I want to talk about) but in this case it's more of an obstacle. I don't get the number, think I would have if it was just me.

Upstairs in another bar I start pimping a hot burnette (this is probably way out of order in the timeline). Cat comes in and I lose it.

I'm really never bothered by this stuff. First, it's a good learning experience to see what works winging-wise. But maybe more importantly (I think one of the instructors mentioned this recently), if you lose a girl to something like that, you didn't really "have" her in the first place. #nohardfeelings

We do more. Run into ANOTHER girl who I pulled but didn't fuck (this one only because her friend insisted on going home), and we try to meet up later but miss them. What's amazing about this game is that it's all convenience for a lot of these girls. If it's convenient for them to fuck you, they most certainly will. If not, oh well.

I guess it's surprisingly similar for me now to be honest. As much as it sometimes irritates me, I can relate more to hot girl mentality as my abundance continues to rise.

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Big and I make ridiculous gestures from the windows outside a club, and get a group of girls into it. We go in and beast on them.

The one I want is married and the one big was going for gets passed off to me. Not really into it.

The girl who's number I got earlier runs over and hugs me. Funny, didn't seem all that solid before. You never know. I try somewhat halfheartedly to disuade them from going back to their hotel room early and stay with us, but it doesn't fly. She's leaving the next day.

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1. As long as you are improving by 1% each time you go out, it's a good night. That means a year from now -- even if every night was average like this -- I'd be twice as good.

2. I'm trying to start finding excitment in the little things again. Before I started to get results with this, every little success seemed so fucking amazing. I'd get a number and be like OMFG EPIC. I want to bring some of this back. I'm pulling girls back here all the time now (LMR seems to be a sticking point at the moment), and somehow it's like it's not enough. Note to self: CHILL DUDE, BE HAPPY. YOU JUST FOOLED AROUND IN BED WITH A HOTTIE YOU JUST MET. IT'S ALL GOOD. THIS IS FUN.

Cheers
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Sorry if I stepped on your toes.

Love the 5am "AHHHH LMR" text hahaha

Want to hear about that one.

Missin you already babe
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YBP

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Damn, wtf? You, Cat, Dave, and Sooners have some of the sickest journals in the FR section. Almost unreal how you have such a solid crew to hang out and fuck shit up with so frequently.
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Yeah, it kind of becomes a big girly swirl, and a single interaction with a girl is not that importand or is it memorable.

Also, I never judge how good some dude is by reading field reports.  Actions speak louder than words, so I have to see the dudes out in the field approaching and taking action.  I've seen way too many dudes that have good field reports but when they're actually out in the field, they're terrified to approach and too scared to take any action and spend all night just hoping that girls will be nice to them or some bullshit like that.  I've been there, done that bullshit.

Pimpin aint easy.

Matt281 wrote:
Friday

It's amazing to me what a change in mindset I've had. Early in this journal I remembered entire conversations. Now I have trouble even remembering what happened a few nights ago.

One thing I've thought while reading through other FRs here is that you can basically tell how good someone in by what they focus on in their field reports.

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@Cat - nah dude that's why I brought it up. It doesn't even cross my mind to care about that stuff. Hope you got that blonde hottie; she wanted it ;)

@YBP - Thanks man. I don't know how we got so lucky with the crew. Seattle isn't really where you'd expect that to happen lol.

@Sexy - Agreed. I've just noticed a trend in mindset/progress when reading other peoples stuff. It's like analyzing individual interactions -> analysing the theme of the night and sticking points -> emphasis on lays -> stories.

Cheers dudes. I'll put up Sat when I get a chance.
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Yo Matt

I just wanted to thank you.

I've been reading your journal for some time now, and, fuck... Keep going :D

Just reading your posts makes me want to go out and crush it.
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Thanks man. I love it when other guys get inspired by this stuff -- or get anything out of it for that matter. I still can't believe more people don't read the field reports forum. I mean, you literally have guys who have been out and approached thousands and thousands of girls writting about each and every experience... and most people are spending their time on the main forum circle jerking.

Good luck with your own journey dude.

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Saturday

Meet up with Cat and Big, walk to the bar next to Cat's place and hit up the first hotties I see.

Mine is a cute burnette girl with darker skin, brown eyes and a somewhat exotic look. Big wings the blonde friend.

We hit it off a bit and Cat takes over for big. It's really like Tyler used to say about him and Julien hitting it up together -- the guy who is even 1% more out of his head will always get the girl. I think in this case Cat is like 100% more unstiffled than either of us lol.

Big joins my convo which kind of breaks our bubble. Cat is busy proposing to his girl (successfully it seems).

Eventually I get her 1 on 1 again and we bounce them to another bar. I buy her a drink, then she buys me one. We have a good, chill, interesting vibe kind of like what you'd expect early on in a good date, but not the raw fucking crazy attraction that Cat has with his girl.

We head downstairs and I'm still in my head. Cat is on fire. On some level, the contrast between our two interactions is a bigger problem for me than anything. It's like my girl is like "well this is good but LOOK AT THAT. THAT'S WHAT I WANT".

So I start to lose it, and I swap numbers with her and leave about 10 minutes later.

Lesson: STEP THE FUCK UP OR LOSE IT :))

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I find some other guys and hit it up some more. I think. I have no recollection of this.

The next thing I remember is that we're at another crowded bar and Cat is back with me. He tells me he's gonna throw me in, and I see a STUNNER in the middle of her group of like 4 girlfriends.

I walk right up in that shit and kill it. Her friends disapear instantly. Strong eye contact. Funny. Smooth. Icy.

One big thing I have to remember is that the most reliable thing for pumping my own state is taking actions that are right on the edge of my comfort zone. My game lights up like you wake up when you jump into cold water. I need to remember this when I'm feeling out of it and looking for easy ones to validate me and get me talking.

Anyway, she has a boyfriend who she lives with. Cat comes in right as I find this out and says we look like we're in love.

We all talk for another minute or so and then I let her go. I pull her in, tell her it was nice to meet her and "break up with your boyfriend soon :)"

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So now I turn around, walk like 10 paces, and grab a cute redheaded girl walking by.

Boom. In like sin.

I dominate it for a minute, then she says her friends have to approve of me. I turn to them, ask them if they approve and they love me.

Back on my girl. I keep killing it and vomitting self amusing BS which I don't really remember. I see the stunner who I approached right before looking over at me longingly. What's crazy even though most hot girls have experienced being swept off their feet, most girls just don't realize that guys who can do that can do it with just about ANYONE. Girls who fall head over heals for you often don't conciously realize that what just happened can be replicated.

10 minutes later we go back to her group (big ~10 person mixed set at a table) and she sits on my lap. I tell her how guys with girlfriends (like the ones at the table) look so docile. Like as soon as they have a girl, they stop being fun and just sit there.

I chat with her friends a little and then I can hear them a few minutes later telling her she should go home with me. They all go to the bathroom to talk and I chat with some of the other single guys. Cool dudes actually.

They come back and obviously haven't reached a verdict. The friend tells me something like she really likes me but I should take her on a date.

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My translation: get her away from her friends, push harder, take her home now.

So I tell her we're just gonna go to another bar to grab a drink and we'll meet up with them after. So I pull outside and wallslam makeout with her on the street. Then I pull her back to a bar near Cat's house. We build comfort till closing, I tell her I need to show her a youtube video (this excuse to pull is becoming funnier since everyone has smart phones) and walk her to my car.

We get back and she starts acting a bit weird.

I get her into bed, ask her if she wants pajamas (she'll only take the top) and inform her that it's unhealthy to sleep with a bra on (lol I love this).

I feel her up a bit but don't get very far. She has "shut down" LMR which is the hardest to deal with. It's much easier when they're making out with you and letting you finger them, but fucking hard when they just turn over and shut down.

Anyway, I try like 3 more times throughout the night. No luck :(

LMR seems to be somewhat of a sticking point lately hahaha. Guess it could be worse :)

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1. Pumping my own state is all about doing things far outside my comfort zone, not number of sets or validation.

2. Pulling is all about convenience. Just take them one step at a time until it's inconvenient not to come with you.

3. Any tips on shut down LMR? I think this is something I just have to handle earlier on.

Monday was sick too. Will write that up soon too. Trying to get out 4 nights a week again.

Cheers
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roadrally

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Interesting you should ask about lmr.
I know the main forum is full of trash but every once in a while you find a good nugget.
Just read this cool post about lmr today and I found it and linked it for you

http://www.rsdnation.com/node/308673/forum
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"We aren't having sex tonight"

"I can't believe I met someone so fucking cool in such a random way" 

"I think you're beautiful and I'm a man so don't hate me for it" (grab grab grab).

"Sweetie... we haven't even been kissing and I'm hard.. its like just your smell has me going crazy.. I dunno.."

"Don't look at it"

"This is crazy, I feel like I've known you for a long time, I'm excited to go out with you again, I want to go to tea (whatever) next week and steal puppies from the park and make fun of hobos, it will be romantic"

Sounds like she was a "no no matter what" girl so IDK how helpful this is.  Was she into the makeouts majorly?  I would just keep shit super super chilled out and have all the verbals point to like chode boyfriend game with your hard dick rubbing against her stomach, more or less.  

Jelly of Monday, forced contractions BLAH
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