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Good. They are all essentially one long book.
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Matt281 wrote:
Friday


What's interesting about this is how I naturally fall into the "short term mating strategy" or "long term mating strategy" pattern on each of these different nights. With Converse, I basically just gloss over anything that might fuck with my state so that once we find a 2 set that's down, I can hold up my end of the deal. With the newer guys, or by myself, I'm more focused on the long term stuff, like my entitlement and control over my emotional state. Really interesting.


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realllly interesting man. I find when I am out alone, my emotional state is free to be. But when I am out with others who may be in a bad state, their states becomes super contagious and kinda messes up my state. It'll nice as I figure out my way around that. 
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Saturday

Out with several of the guys. Spent most of the night winging with SexyMachine.

Sexy starts hitting up everything right away, mostly just stopping every girl that walks by. I am slower to start. We go to another club and go on the outside rooftop area. Cuttest girl out there, imo, is a ~6 foot tall girl in a bachelorette party. I am sniping, Sexy has his proverbial Uzi out.

I go tap the tall hot girl. It's surprisingly easy and we just start talking. Turns out she doesn't know most of the girls in the bachelorette party, only the bride. We chat for 5-10 minutes and I get her number. Earlier today we set up a day 2 for tonight, but she rescheduled.

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We bounce around to a bunch of different bars. It takes me a long time to get in the swing of things. There's two girls I was supposed to meet up with up on the hill, one of which I forget to txt. I end up staying downtown though.

Sexy and I basically just go bar to bar, block to block and hit it up.

We end up talking to this fat girl for a while. I only bring it up because she was probably the first fat girl I've talked to who had a cool personality. So many of them seem so butthurt about being fat that they're huge bitches. If this girl was hot, she would have been pretty cool to hang out with.

Anyway, enough about that. There are hot girls to beast on.

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We spend a lot of time roaming the streets. It's funny how your mind works when you do this enough. I literally don't remember most of the girls I opened.

It's not until like 1:30 that I finally start approaching pretty consistently. Just looking for really hot girls at this point.

My last set of the night was probably the hottest girl I opened. Beautiful brunette girl with a small white dress and long skinny legs. I point to her and tell her to stop. She does.

My entitlement isn't there and I'm not feeling good enough to own it. Sexy beasts on the friend but they leave after a minute or two. It's such a letdown when you see such a hot girl stop and give you the chance to fuck her, but you're not quite in the state where can pull it off. Oh well, live an learn.

Sexy drops by my place and we talk about shit.

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1. The main lesson from last night was just to accept things for the way they are and act accordingly. Don't get butthurt that things aren't the way you wished they were, or that people act differently than you'd hoped. Change what you have control over (yourself) and let everything else be. Girls will be girls, reality will be reality. Deal with it, and take the necessary steps to get what you want.
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Momentum is the real deal baby!!!

Just hit it, hit it, hit it.
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I think this is one of the best videos Tyler has put out, especially from 36:00 on. Really relates to a lot of stuff I'm going through right now and have been thinking about.

One thing in particular relates to the struggle, and how someone mentioned how every fucking night I go out and have to push through my own bullshit. Every night I have to wrestle with AA to some extent. Some nights it's really not much of a problem, other nights (like Saturday 10 days ago when I was out solo) it's fucking crippling, but it's super rewarding to push passed it.

The frame of mind I've been having is "WHY DOES THIS KEEP COMING BACK!??!?" Why do I keep having to wrestle with this while other guys seem to have it handled?".

That's what gives me the feeling I get every so often when I'm down about this stuff: "this is the same thing I dealt with 2 years ago. Am I really any better? Is this every going to change?"

For the record, coming from an unemotional perspective (it's wednesday, didn't go out and develop a big high or low), yes I have gotten much better at handling this and not having big off nights. But more importantly is IT DOESN'T MATTER. It doesn't matter if I always have off nights or nights where I struggle to get myself to take action. There's always going to be a comfort zone, it just changes. However, as highlighted beautifully in the above video, pushing passed your negative emotions over and over is what makes you grow, and it's a gift within itself.

Moreover, as mentioned in the video -- and I truly fucking believe this down to my core -- both pickup and life give you exactly what you need at the time, and exactly what you deserve.

The first time I pulled (didn't close) a stunner, I wrote about how happy I was for all the girls in my life who rejected me and all the things in pickup that went wrong BECAUSE IT BROUGHT ME TO THIS POINT.

I fully expect to feel exactly like that in the future. I might get butthurt about how my day 2 with the model/actress girl could have gone a lot better, or how one of my cherishes might be falling off, but this stuff is most likely exactly what I need at this point in my growth.

The key thing to remember is that as long as I keep grinding it out with this stuff, there's no doubt in my mind that I get to where I want to be.

I'll get there.

And once I do, I'm going to look back at this monster of a journal and be happy that things went exactly the way they did.

Cheers
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ha that speech from 36:00 on is from the book The war of Art by steven pressfield.  its so true great book
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Matt281 wrote:


I think this is one of the best videos Tyler has put out, especially from 36:00 on. Really relates to a lot of stuff I'm going through right now and have been thinking about.

One thing in particular relates to the struggle, and how someone mentioned how every fucking night I go out and have to push through my own bullshit. Every night I have to wrestle with AA to some extent. Some nights it's really not much of a problem, other nights (like Saturday 10 days ago when I was out solo) it's fucking crippling, but it's super rewarding to push passed it.

The frame of mind I've been having is "WHY DOES THIS KEEP COMING BACK!??!?" Why do I keep having to wrestle with this while other guys seem to have it handled?".

That's what gives me the feeling I get every so often when I'm down about this stuff: "this is the same thing I dealt with 2 years ago. Am I really any better? Is this every going to change?"

For the record, coming from an unemotional perspective (it's wednesday, didn't go out and develop a big high or low), yes I have gotten much better at handling this and not having big off nights. But more importantly is IT DOESN'T MATTER. It doesn't matter if I always have off nights or nights where I struggle to get myself to take action. There's always going to be a comfort zone, it just changes. However, as highlighted beautifully in the above video, pushing passed your negative emotions over and over is what makes you grow, and it's a gift within itself.

Moreover, as mentioned in the video -- and I truly fucking believe this down to my core -- both pickup and life give you exactly what you need at the time, and exactly what you deserve.

The first time I pulled (didn't close) a stunner, I wrote about how happy I was for all the girls in my life who rejected me and all the things in pickup that went wrong BECAUSE IT BROUGHT ME TO THIS POINT.

I fully expect to feel exactly like that in the future. I might get butthurt about how my day 2 with the model/actress girl could have gone a lot better, or how one of my cherishes might be falling off, but this stuff is most likely exactly what I need at this point in my growth.

The key thing to remember is that as long as I keep grinding it out with this stuff, there's no doubt in my mind that I get to where I want to be.

I'll get there.

And once I do, I'm going to look back at this monster of a journal and be happy that things went exactly the way they did.

Cheers

Watching you at work is pretty crazy man.  You chill back a lot, but when you see a girl that motivates you, you're on it hard with no hesitation.  It's funny for me to even hear you say you get aa.  I wouldn't worry too much about it.  You always take action, so it's all good.  But, after reading your post, and then watching the video, one of the things that stuck out for me was when Tyler was saying that Julien told him, "you could do it if you had a gun to your head." 
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Matt281 wrote:


I think this is one of the best videos Tyler has put out, especially from 36:00 on. Really relates to a lot of stuff I'm going through right now and have been thinking about.

One thing in particular relates to the struggle, and how someone mentioned how every fucking night I go out and have to push through my own bullshit. Every night I have to wrestle with AA to some extent. Some nights it's really not much of a problem, other nights (like Saturday 10 days ago when I was out solo) it's fucking crippling, but it's super rewarding to push passed it.

The frame of mind I've been having is "WHY DOES THIS KEEP COMING BACK!??!?" Why do I keep having to wrestle with this while other guys seem to have it handled?".

That's what gives me the feeling I get every so often when I'm down about this stuff: "this is the same thing I dealt with 2 years ago. Am I really any better? Is this every going to change?"

For the record, coming from an unemotional perspective (it's wednesday, didn't go out and develop a big high or low), yes I have gotten much better at handling this and not having big off nights. But more importantly is IT DOESN'T MATTER. It doesn't matter if I always have off nights or nights where I struggle to get myself to take action. There's always going to be a comfort zone, it just changes. However, as highlighted beautifully in the above video, pushing passed your negative emotions over and over is what makes you grow, and it's a gift within itself.

Moreover, as mentioned in the video -- and I truly fucking believe this down to my core -- both pickup and life give you exactly what you need at the time, and exactly what you deserve.

The first time I pulled (didn't close) a stunner, I wrote about how happy I was for all the girls in my life who rejected me and all the things in pickup that went wrong BECAUSE IT BROUGHT ME TO THIS POINT.

I fully expect to feel exactly like that in the future. I might get butthurt about how my day 2 with the model/actress girl could have gone a lot better, or how one of my cherishes might be falling off, but this stuff is most likely exactly what I need at this point in my growth.

The key thing to remember is that as long as I keep grinding it out with this stuff, there's no doubt in my mind that I get to where I want to be.

I'll get there.

And once I do, I'm going to look back at this monster of a journal and be happy that things went exactly the way they did.

Cheers
Im right there marching along with you on this journey, just like 2000 miles away.
Just watched this video today. I think yeah, its one of tylers better videos.

The game is a funny thing. Like all you can do is keep taking action. Keep approaching and doing your thing.
Tonight I wasnt in a great mood. Just hit it up did like 8 approaches at this like artwalk thing here in Austin.
I wasn't feeling the fun, just excersizing the will power muscle like he talks about in the video.
Did my approaches none were more then like 1 minute interactions..
I feel like a total noobie and its kind of soul destroying a bit. gahhh.
For me Ive been pretty aware of the whole abundance channel relating to game recently. 
When I feel abundant, good results come. Today, feeling negative and in scarcity, but getting out there and talking to the girlies anyway. 

Keep on the journey I guess. Keep at it. In the end its hard work that pays off.
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adjunkie wrote:
Watching you at work is pretty crazy man.  You chill back a lot, but when you see a girl that motivates you, you're on it hard with no hesitation.  It's funny for me to even hear you say you get aa.  I wouldn't worry too much about it.  You always take action, so it's all good.  But, after reading your post, and then watching the video, one of the things that stuck out for me was when Tyler was saying that Julien told him, "you could do it if you had a gun to your head." 
I still let way to many go, and even if I'm approaching the hottest girls, I'm not taking initiative early on the night (sometimes) to get that social muscle going and give myself a good chance at success when I do step to that stunner. I'm happy with myself for generally going after what I want (I feel like a lot of community guys won't approach the hottest girls), but every approach is an opportunity for growth. Can't just be sniping all the time.

@roadrally - yeah man, there's always gonna be ups and downs, but as long as the general trend is progress (always is when you're hitting it up hard), there's nothing to complain about. This stuff is harder than anyone thinks getting into it, but it's so much more rewarding than you think too.

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Thursday

Me, Sunshine and Brother finally head back to the east side, which has the super posh/tough clubs that we were going to a bit last summer but slowed down too much over the winter. Things are switch around a little, but there's still one central club where all the hot socialite girls go on thursdays.

There's a lot of community guys out that we don't normally hang out with, but everyone else is part of that "in crowd".

Seeing as how there's only one venue and not that many potential approaches outside of the VIP area (where there's like 8 stunners all in a group), I just try to have fun dancing and pump my own state a bit. I do this suprisingly well tonight and I'm feeling pretty damn good.

I halfway hook a hot blonde girl who gets opened by one of the other guys and I beckon over to me, but not quite.

Brother and Sunshine want to bounce around a little so we head outside. I stop and talk to these two girls by the door while they check out some other places.

Goes really really well for me. I'm just chilling back and saying shit while they're huddled around me. Good buyers frame. But as it turns out, the cute one is married and the other one is fat. I eventually find out that the cute one got cheated on, split up with her husband and now they're trying to make it work agian, so I *might* have been able to pull something, but she has 2 young kids and my chances aren't too great anyway. Great warmup set though. Girls love me.

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We head back in the club and I only do a couple more. Probably about 5 total tonight (granted there's only about 5 hot girls not in VIP).

One in particular was pretty damn good. Some hot brunette girl. I grab her and stop her while she's walking:

Her: I don't want to dance
Me: I don't either, I just want to talk with you and pretend I'm with a cute girl

Goes well but I lose her after a minute.

Few more outside. I pussy out with the VIP girls and settle for stairing at them lol.

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1. I fucking love this environment because it makes every other bar we go too -- tough or not -- look like a joke. When you go to a spot where the girls are super hot and bitchy, and all the guys have status, money, looks and game, everywhere else seems ridiculously easy.

2. Gotta find some way to step to the hot socialite girls. Most of the time they're in their fenced off little area, but it's not impossible. Might be a steep learning curve though, because it seems like you have about 3 seconds to show her that you're a fucking boss.

Anyway, next 2 nights should be fun :)

Cheers
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Friday

Another tough one. Went to a little get together earlier and didn't get out till like 11:30. Slow start.

Wing a few with Sunshine and Brother on the dance floor but it's not really going anywhere. A few minutes later I open a hot 30 year old girl with pink hair. Goes reasonably well but I feel like I'm not on enough to where she views me as a sexual threat.

Couple more blowouts and choding. I run into some hot girls I went to school with. Too bad it couldn't have been when I was in state :(

I end up talking to a pretty cute girl outside. Seemed to go about as good as I could have hoped for given I'm not feeling that great, but when I txt'd her I think she gave me a wrong number.

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I go back to the first place and hit more stuff up. It's amazing how much of the night is just spent walking around and being a chode. I probably did 10 sets, but over a 2+ hour period, I was probably only in set for 20 minutes. That's a lot of walking around.

Anyway, got a pretty hot girls number at the very end of the side walk. Only seemed somewhat solid.

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1. It's weird because now I feel myself getting into that state where I think I can't do this, but then I know it's mostly just my emotions and I can't really take myself seriously, but I still feel off. It's interesting though, even on my worst nights now I'm never really that "down". I'm still generally having a good time and fucking around with Brother and Sunshine. I guess that's a positive takeaway from the night, since there weren't many. Even on rough nights, I still enjoy myself more than a lot of people, and cool enough I actually grow from this. There's nothing quite like feeling like you're getting better slowly and it's just a matter of time.

That being said, off nights are tough. It's mostly just that I want to believe that since I've gone out and had enough success that I should be able to just aborb all of this by osmosis and it should come flowing out of me naturally when I talk to girls (which seems to be the cases with guys who just grew up with hot girls and status). Nevertheless, I still find myself having to grind it out and try to get my state to the point where I can pull.

2. On the bright side, this area is awesome. I don't know why we've been going after the low-hanging fruit in the other spots on Fridays. Girls here are HOT. Gotta go after what you want :)

Cheers
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