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adjunkie

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LOL.. good seeing you out tonight man
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@matt haha yoo that is awesome, I LOVE LOVE LOVE when crazy shit like that goes down... Okay, also- with shit like that, i find that being VERY firm and even just standing in one place and NOT moving can help a lot. Like stnad where you are and be firm and yell her name, "SARA" then pause and she'll look back and stop in her tracks and then just be like, "Come here, NOW" and just be VERY VERY demanding.

I did this with a girl who was with her bf... granted she still got pulled away but I think that this is a decent way of handling these situations.

Really look forward to keeping track of your journal man. Really cool shit.
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Wish I had seen you out last night man I headed out early, went out to get some reps in.  Missing your face baby.  

I think your goals are solid and your processes are even better.  I like the "start early, follow the gameplan" idea.  Have you experimented with starting your night out later?  Sometimes heading out at 930 where there simply aren't that many girls to approach can fuck with me and get me going way slower than I want to get going.  

Was sick out last night too, fuck me for leaving early, as we took off some five set we stare at hollers at us "ITS MY BIRTHDAY" and this chick is wearing skin tight red dress with a fucking big sexy ass and god, I'm like "why am I leaving this behind" ahhhh!  Sounds like you guys had a blast too man.  

See you soon sexy man, I miss your warm embrace
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 Those black girls be crazy.
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Matt281

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@matt haha yoo that is awesome, I LOVE LOVE LOVE when crazy shit like that goes down... Okay, also- with shit like that, i find that being VERY firm and even just standing in one place and NOT moving can help a lot. Like stnad where you are and be firm and yell her name, "SARA" then pause and she'll look back and stop in her tracks and then just be like, "Come here, NOW" and just be VERY VERY demanding.

I did this with a girl who was with her bf... granted she still got pulled away but I think that this is a decent way of handling these situations.

Really look forward to keeping track of your journal man. Really cool shit.

That stuff works well when there isn't a guy holding onto them, but when she's being pulled away not so much.

Thanks for the comment though man.



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Wish I had seen you out last night man I headed out early, went out to get some reps in.  Missing your face baby.  

I think your goals are solid and your processes are even better.  I like the "start early, follow the gameplan" idea.  Have you experimented with starting your night out later?  Sometimes heading out at 930 where there simply aren't that many girls to approach can fuck with me and get me going way slower than I want to get going.  

Was sick out last night too, fuck me for leaving early, as we took off some five set we stare at hollers at us "ITS MY BIRTHDAY" and this chick is wearing skin tight red dress with a fucking big sexy ass and god, I'm like "why am I leaving this behind" ahhhh!  Sounds like you guys had a blast too man.  

See you soon sexy man, I miss your warm embrace
Yeah man with the "start early" thing I mean start approaching immediately after I get there. I'm all for getting out after 11 these days.

@adjunkie - ditto. lets do it again tonight.

@dave7 - agreed ;)
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Matt281

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Thursday

Funny night. Consider this a guide to how to stay out until 5 am and not get laid :p

I met up with Adjunkie and the rest of the crew at the regular club, hit it up, then head up to the hill at around 1:00. Thursdays have been pretty bad lately. It's surprisingly hard to find hot girls.

Around 2 we end up talking to these 2 girls on the street. The blonde is relatively cute. The other is somewhat hideous. There's some weird hipster guy there too. Adjunkie and Tiger0 leave after a bit and the 4 of us go to a nearby park. The other two sit and talk and the blonde girl and I fuck around on the equipment. I can't seem to slow her down enough to makeout with her. I feel like I'm chasing her around.

This is something I've ran into several times and don't know what to do. I don't particularly like this girl, she's fuckable but not super hot (7 or so) and she's running around wasting my time; aka the situation where there's a decent chance I will get laid if I just hang around but I'm not enjoying myself and she doesn't seem to care much either way. In fact *I* don't care much either way. It really depends on which way you look at it -- is this a learning/plowing experience? or is this a complete fucking waste of my time? Hard to say.

Anyway, I finally stop her on a bench and cant' think of a good transition into a makeout so I just go for it. We makeout for a bit... she does this weird thing where she's trying to tease me with her tongue. It's not as hot as it sounds.

We head back up and meet up with the other two. Her friend -- who is an ugly by the way :) -- puts her on the spot and basically explicitly asks her "are you gonna fuck this guy or can we just go?". And of course, she's not going to go with it in front of the 4 of us. She sort of hesitates like she wants to come with me but is being pressured by her friend being a cunt... sorry, I love women haha, this girl was just a piece of shit.

And yeah, that's that.

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So next thing you know, I'm driving home at 3:00 AM and I get flagged down by these 3 girls. They ask if I'll drive them back home and come smoke with them. One seems cute so I say okay.

/randomadventures

I call Adjunkie to get him to come and wing, and they say they talked to someone with the same name earlier. Turns out Tiger0 and Adjunkie hit them up earlier lol. Adjunkie's already at home though and I don't want to drag him out since the friends aren't hot.

As we're walking back to their place the fat one and the cute one drop behind us a bit and I can hear them wispering about me. Sounds like the cute one likes me and the fat one is egging her on... or it could just be my ego :P

We get back and smoke a little. I mostly just cough and burn my throat. Probably only smoked a dozen times in my life; weed just doesn't really do it for me.

It's about 4:00 by now and we decide to walk to the viewpoint. I walk with the cute girl. She's shy and doesn't seem to have much personality. Nevertheless we talk, get way ahead of the other two and then hit down together for a bit. The viewpoint is pretty cool. We go down below and mess around in the playground.

That's 2 playgrounds after 2 AM in one night. Adventure :)

We get back around 5am. Cute girl walks me to my car.

Me: alright lets do the numbers thing
Her: okay it's ...
*pause*
Me: ... okay we need to get this out of the way too *grab her head for hardcore makeout*

I head home. Probably won't call this girl, but fun night nevertheless.

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1. Like I was saying earlier, I'm trying to sort out when I'm learning/thickening my skin vs when I'm just wasting my time. Like when do you just tell a girl that this is a waste of your time and just leave? Really felt like doing that with the blonde girl a few times. I don't want to "eject" on a possible pull, but when I don't really like her, don't really care, and she's been wishy-washy, I feel like just walking off.

2. I've also been thinking some about getting better at this. Do I just go out and do what I've been doing, be patient, and trust that it will come? Or do I really need to step another level out of my comfort zone, try new shit, and really push myself more? On one hand, I'm enjoying the level I'm at and doing what I'm doing, but on the other hand, if it's not leading to where I want to be, I need to step it up a notch.

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Matt281

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lol 3rd night in a row I've got home at 4:00 or 5:00 am.

Converse and I pulled the last two nights but no dice either time. Definitely getting more consistent with the pulls though... just gotta make sure it's really "on" before you get them back.

Good nights nevertheless. Hitting up hot girls with some awesome friends; what could be better? :)
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Matt281

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Friday

Ended up going out downtown despite it typically not being as good on Fridays. Met up with SexyMachine, Knoxville (muzzi17) and Brother, then ran into some of the other guys later.

Sexy opens a group of 3 at a table. Only one of them is cute but I wing it just to get my social muscle going. We talk for a bit and find out they're all married.

I bounce off to two girls Knoxville is talking to... turns out they're two girls from the street 2 weeks ago when I was on fire. Funny doing follow ups because you really get a better idea of what happened the last time. Turns out Knoxville knew them and I just came out of nowhere last time and beasted on the hot friend lol... I had no idea, but it went awesome :)

Bounced around more, opened more shit. There's literally like 10 community guys out but I mostly go solo. It's actually really hard to do this when you're with too many people.

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I hit it up by myself a bit more then go find Converse, who is owning a 5 person mixed set by himself lol. I say hi, leave him for a bit, then run into one of the girls from that group a little later on the street. Beast, etc.

Converse has convinced everyone that he's gay, despite the fact that he's making out with one of the girls. I play along and say we both are, but they take it really literally and think we're bisexual. This is fine for Converse, but sucks for me cause I haven't made out with my girl yet.

Bars close and we all go outside. Converse runs and gets his car while I make sure they don't leave. The two guys are still there with us. One of them is trying to hook up with my girl and it's weirding her out. I keep having to step between them and shit.

Converse comes back with the car and the guys get in too. At this point I didn't realize they weren't really with the girls -- we should have just yelled at them to get out.

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Drive back to Converse's place. I can't do shit given the situation. My girl is upset about the other guy that came with us, and torn about her friend hooking up with Converse. I decide to just try to wing it and let Converse do his thing.

So it's me, my girl, another girl with a boyfriend, and two random guys. Converse and his girl have disappeared into the office.

I try to calm the girls down and change the subject, but one of the guys has the bright idea to get all confrontational with them about whether to let their friend get fucked or not, and of course they freak out and go bang on the door.

More drama with the guys. I don't really know what's going on. The girls lock close themselves in the office and want us to kick the other two guys out. This takes a good 10 minutes to do.

Girls come out. Mine likes me but nothing's going to happen. Converse will probably fuck his girl later this week.

They leave. I walk home at 4:00 am. The end.

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Matt281

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Yeah man, likewise :)
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Saturday

Cat comes over to my place and we chat a bit, then head out a little before 11.

On the way there Cat stops 3 girls and hugs ones of them. Everyone inciuding me thinks they know each other but he's just been smooth as fuck. Turn's out Cat's girl is engaged but I grab the number from my girl before we leave them. Easy.

Cat hits up a bachelorette party and I piggy back some more. There's a funny exchange about Cat being the social one and me being the shy guy... kind of had to be there lol. I occupy the girl who's getting married for a few minutes while Cat beasts on her friend.

After a minute or two though I start getting distracted by this fucking STUNNING girl in another bachelorette party. I hesitate... fuck, have to do it. I go over and introduce myself, and immediately the bachelorette girl from that group barges in and tries to get me to do something on her list... and I lose the stunner. Man, this girl was one of the hottest girls I've seen out in a looong time.

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We run into Brother and Knoxville (Muzzi17) along with a few of the other guys. We all hit shit up. I go wing one for Brother. Some surprisingly hot girl in her early 30s. I actually do really well and she's into it, but she can't get over the age thing.

I open another hot 28 year old. Get blown out by age again. You've gotta be pretty "on" to blow past that one sometimes.

Cat's heading back up to the hill cause he forgot his ID (we know the staff in the bar we're in but he can't go anywhere else), and Adjunkie and I decide to head up there too since we've basically burned the place to the ground.

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This was the main one for the night.

We get to the first bar on the hill and I immediately approach a cute dirty blonde girl. I tell her she looks familiar because she does. Turns out we went to the same college. Adjunkie wings the friend but they don't get along as well. He leaves after a minute and I talk to both of the. It's solid.

About 5 or 10 minutes in, I find out she just started working at the same place I do like a week ago (lol). Small world.

We stay in that spot and talk for literally another half hour before I decide I really need to move them. I call up Converse and pull them to the bar he's at so he can wing the friend. We go find him downstairs and he's in with the friend in no time. He pulls her over to another part of the bar after a minute or two and we both get some one on one time.

I'm kind of psyched out about escalating too hard because of the whole work situation, but I play it solid nevertheless.

I really didn't think we were going to be able to pull this one, but Converse seeds it and we just go for it. The coolest thing about having a wing and pulling two girls is that it makes pulling way easier. We basically just ask each other if we're going back to his place, agree, then assume the girls agree too and lead them out by the hand.

Also, moving girls around before the pull is so fucking important. Converse does this like clockwork.

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Anyway, we go back to his place and each get one on one with our girls. Converse says he's not really that into his but he's happy to wing it. I explain the work situation and that I'm not going to try to fuck her tonight.

We chat a bit more and try for the makeout at the end. She won't right now because of the work thing, but says that I should call her.

Good night. Hopefully I'll close this one on day2 or day3.

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Sunday

The girl I fucked 3 weeks ago texted me late Saturday night (I'd mostly been ignoring her) because she saw me out on the hill. I have nothing else to do tonight so I had her drive to the city and meet me at a bar next to my house. We grab a drink, walk around some for good measure, then pull back to my place and fuck. This girl really isn't that hot but whatever. Once you no longer attach your identity to any one girl you have sex with, it's not really a big deal.

What's crazy though is that given where she saw me, she must have seen me holding hands with another, hotter girl leaving the bar. It's basically the same thing Cat and I were talking about: girls want THAT GUY. They don't care what else you're doing, although logically they might not like it. I need to give myself permission to do whatever I want to do and trust that girls will be down anyway.

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1. One thing I'm really grappling with lately is the extent to which the difference between fucking stunners and fucking other girls is in my head, vs the extent to which it's real. It would be naive to say there's absolutely no difference, because beautiful girls obviously have a completely different subjective experience of reality. They get cat-called constantly, everyone constantly tells them how hot they are, and they get hit on a lot more. However, many of the percieved differences just come from people not having the entitlement to treat gorgeous girls exactly like anyone else. Like Tyler says, the manifestation of entitlement is basically just how hot of a girl you can act normal around.

Thinking back to some of the hottest girls I've approached, got numbers from, or gone on day 2s with -- it does feel like a different ballgame, but I think most of that is self-constructed. I really wonder, if I acted exactly the same as I do with girls I don't really care about, would the same thing happen? It's quite possible.

The more you do this game thing, the more you realize that everything has to do with YOU rather than anything else. As you change, the world around you changes and your experience will change.

Cheers
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