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Going out for drinks with her this next week. One big realization I had today is that, while I've rationalized it as not liking to chase, I've let a lot of solid numbers go because I'm still afraid of rejection on some level. I've passed it off as living in abundance, but I've literally stopped texting several very hot girls because they didn't respond once.
Girls will either like you or they won't. But you need to find out reality either way. Put yourself out there and don't be afraid of what you might experience.
Cheers
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Dude, I gotta say that you are fuckin killing it and that ironically your friday sounds waaay better, results wise, than mine, but again that isn't really the point. I think that we're both at this place where we're having moderate success and we're really reaching for that consistency at that level, fighting to assume that new stage (and also fighting to sustain that "new identity" in terms of results --> imo this is probably fucking us both up independently).
The problem is that we're literally just not there yet, still getting reference experiences to make that shit litearlly NORMAL. My point is simply that you gotta realize how far you've gone to change your life in terms of what is normal. I read maybe the first 3 or 4 pages of your thread. Compare that normal to this normal. INSANE. Simply insane.
The other thing that I've been TRYING to do is to look at this shit in a WAY larger perspective.. like.. 6 months to a year. How is my year going? How does this year stack up to last year? Etc. Helps me realize that the improve is enormous even though its inching along day by day.
And man, finally, and I'll keep saying this, you HAVE TO MOVE HERE fuuuuuuck. You would be SWIMMING IN IT dude. Seriously you have MAD SKILLS, like, blow my mind spectator mode skills. Straight up you are getting cockblocked by your own logistics. Then again I think it's that whole seedling that reaches the surface of the earth, where the farmer throws more soil on top to make it stronger: you have a more challenging logistical setup to handle but as a result you are playing at a higher difficulty.. and when that shit becomes normal.. fuckin jesus man. Like.. that's the shit --> getting consistent at pulling to some girls house means you can travel the world and get laid like a rockstar. That sounds rad to me. So I guess it's all how you see it ;)
Either way dude it sounds like you're doing real fucking well. I'd be interested in hearing more about a specific gameplan you have in terms of your actual nights out. I find having two or three "process" things to focus on makes the "outcomes" of my night fuckin sick because I hit my goals and feel good, let go of needing it to go anywhere past that, lose that outcome dependence ("Well I hit my goals so all this is extra awesomeness") and end up having really fun nights.
And also one last thing: it's crazy but it seems like state isn't even required to do well, at least I'm reading that in your posts and I've had some recent experiences like that myself. That's a trip and frankly I think it goes to show that when you hit a certain level of BEING and sorta .. "natural congruence / calibration" you can actually be in a weird / not quite 120% state but still fucking WRECK.
Ping me about the day2 stuff man, more than happy to help with ideas and shit.
Stay classy baby ;)
I really can't tell you have helpful your feedback is. You're pretty much right on with everything. The problem is that we're literally just not there yet, still getting reference experiences to make that shit litearlly NORMAL. My point is simply that you gotta realize how far you've gone to change your life in terms of what is normal. I read maybe the first 3 or 4 pages of your thread. Compare that normal to this normal. INSANE. Simply insane.
The other thing that I've been TRYING to do is to look at this shit in a WAY larger perspective.. like.. 6 months to a year. How is my year going? How does this year stack up to last year? Etc. Helps me realize that the improve is enormous even though its inching along day by day.
And man, finally, and I'll keep saying this, you HAVE TO MOVE HERE fuuuuuuck. You would be SWIMMING IN IT dude. Seriously you have MAD SKILLS, like, blow my mind spectator mode skills. Straight up you are getting cockblocked by your own logistics. Then again I think it's that whole seedling that reaches the surface of the earth, where the farmer throws more soil on top to make it stronger: you have a more challenging logistical setup to handle but as a result you are playing at a higher difficulty.. and when that shit becomes normal.. fuckin jesus man. Like.. that's the shit --> getting consistent at pulling to some girls house means you can travel the world and get laid like a rockstar. That sounds rad to me. So I guess it's all how you see it ;)
Either way dude it sounds like you're doing real fucking well. I'd be interested in hearing more about a specific gameplan you have in terms of your actual nights out. I find having two or three "process" things to focus on makes the "outcomes" of my night fuckin sick because I hit my goals and feel good, let go of needing it to go anywhere past that, lose that outcome dependence ("Well I hit my goals so all this is extra awesomeness") and end up having really fun nights.
And also one last thing: it's crazy but it seems like state isn't even required to do well, at least I'm reading that in your posts and I've had some recent experiences like that myself. That's a trip and frankly I think it goes to show that when you hit a certain level of BEING and sorta .. "natural congruence / calibration" you can actually be in a weird / not quite 120% state but still fucking WRECK.
Ping me about the day2 stuff man, more than happy to help with ideas and shit.
Stay classy baby ;)
As far as process oriented stuff when I go out, it's usually just as simple as "approach a lot, push your comfort zone, have fun". I think these are the most important things to begin with, and it's harder for me to focus on anything else because I'm still trying to solidify the habit of ALWAYS approaching. I've had some big issues with AA, and I don't think anything more complicated is relevant until that shit is sorted out.
Also, the issue of "being" rather than doing is something I need to work on more. Yeah I've fundementally changed as a person to a huge degree, but I often still feel like this is something I do. Although I love hanging out and joking with friends and I love going out, I've never been an extrovert. Furthermore, I'm still working on BEING that guy who sees a hot girl, wants her and goes in hard, rather than haven't to work myself up to DOING that.
But yeah, I have a lot of good results when I'm not in state. I feel like the more I can stop worrying about what people think, the less of an issue state will become. State for me is essentially just feeling so awesome and internally validated that all the "what if" bullshit disapears. I think as I keep pushing my comfort zone and experssing freely, state will become far less of an issue.
And most importantly dude, you are absolutely fucking dominating and you need to give YOURSELF credit for that. At times I can get frustrated that my progress has been a little slower, but the important thing is that I'm enjoying where I'm at along the way. Every moment of this journey is a reward to be enjoyed, and regardless of where anyone else is at, my dating/sex life is already better than I'd ever imagined it would be. I'm still chasing that dream, and I will be until I get it, but shit, I've got 2 dates this week with really hot girls. Boo hoo. Life is good and getting better.
See ya this weekend playa
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Wednesday
Sex
Thursday
Felt super out of it. Went to the local college bars. Didn't feel like doing shit. Brother pushed me to do 2. I think they both had boyfriends. I need to be more fun.
Tonight will be much better.
Sex
Thursday
Felt super out of it. Went to the local college bars. Didn't feel like doing shit. Brother pushed me to do 2. I think they both had boyfriends. I need to be more fun.
Tonight will be much better.
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Friday
Good night.
Set up a day 2 with the hot bisexual black girl from last saturday. Wanted to go at like 8:00 but she didn't get off work till then, so I picked her up at 9:30. Went to go get drinks.
She's cool. Super confident. We talk about some normal stuff, then somehow transition to talking about floppy labias and clitori (sp?).
My entitlement isn't quite there yet. She's 29, really hot, and works as a coporate manger for a multinational company. She reminds me of the main character from Atlas Shrugged. For the most part I do really well, but I get sort of in my head when it comes to escalating. I get physical with her but not nearly as much as I should have.
She has to work at 6:00 am the next day so we head back around 11:30. I don't try anything. Intimidated I guess. Oh well, I had a great time with her.
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Night time.
I book it down to the bars and meet Sunshine, Brother and Knoxville.
It's hard jumping right into a crowded club at midnight. Takes me a few minutes to get the balls to approach. Finally get myself to grab some tall blonde in a suit. I hold onto her for a second then lose her. I think she was there with a guy. Same thing with some other girl. I open one or two others too.
Some guy tries to start shit with me. I mock him and laugh it off.
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This was one of the funniest/coolest sets I've done.
I see this super-hot mixed race girl walking towards me and walk up to grab her...and Brother, who was right next to me (unknown to me) tries to open her at the same time. She's like WHOA.
I push Brother out of the way and go in hard on her. He comes back in and tries to push past me. We're both laughing. I screen him out while he keep trying to get to her and I keep trying to hook her.
Brother: forget him! he's married with 3 kids!
Me: ignore him! *still screening him off with my body*
Brother: he has 3 little girls!
Me: they're not born yet it doesn't count!
Girl: OMG
Me: what's your name?
Her: xxxxx
And we lose her. Hahaha I didn't even care. It was so much fun. I really need to man up and take girls from other guys more often.
I go in on probably the hottest girl there and get blown out. She seemed drunk. Funny, I need to stop worrying about blowing out with the hottest girls. I could easily open her again next week. No harm, no foul.
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Knoxville has hooked a blonde girl with a really nice body. Apparently they had met a few weeks earlier.
I go open the friend and sit down next to her to wing. Some guy she was apparently with wanders in front of us looking at his phone for about a minute, then says he's going and that they should get breakfast (lol owned).
I chit chat then pull her over to dance. She has really nice tits but her face is average and she's a few pounds overweight. I debate whether I'd fuck her. I kiss her neck, wait a little too long, then spin her around, move her to the side of the dance floor and makeout with her.
It's on with Knoxville and his girl so I play wingman. I seed the pull, telling my girl that we can drive them back home. Tell Knoxville, walk everyone to the car, leave. They live relatively near his place.
I remember they know one of his roommates. Me: "oh shit lets see if xxxx is still up!" I pull into Knoxville's place and we all go inside. I isolate my girl over on the couch. She's really not very hot. I don't want to do anything.
It's on between Knoxville and his girl though. I try to seed the pull FOR them a few times but he doesn't pull her up to his room. I txt him. He doesn't get it. I call him so he gets his txt. He still doesn't pull her upstairs.
Eventually he takes her around the corner in the kitchen and escalates there while I occupy my girl. We can hear her moaning haha. It doesn't go through though because by the time he tries to pull her up to the room it's obviously for her to get fucked and she doesn't want to look like a slut in front of her friend.
Oh well, he'll fuck her next time.
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1. Good experience just going through the motions of a pull. Didn't really want to fuck my girl, but it was good practice.
2. It's a lot easier for me to pull and escalate when I don't care what happens. When the girl is really hot or otherwise intimidating, however, I'm not pulling the trigger (like with the girl from the date). Oh well, one more reference experience.
Cheers
Good night.
Set up a day 2 with the hot bisexual black girl from last saturday. Wanted to go at like 8:00 but she didn't get off work till then, so I picked her up at 9:30. Went to go get drinks.
She's cool. Super confident. We talk about some normal stuff, then somehow transition to talking about floppy labias and clitori (sp?).
My entitlement isn't quite there yet. She's 29, really hot, and works as a coporate manger for a multinational company. She reminds me of the main character from Atlas Shrugged. For the most part I do really well, but I get sort of in my head when it comes to escalating. I get physical with her but not nearly as much as I should have.
She has to work at 6:00 am the next day so we head back around 11:30. I don't try anything. Intimidated I guess. Oh well, I had a great time with her.
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Night time.
I book it down to the bars and meet Sunshine, Brother and Knoxville.
It's hard jumping right into a crowded club at midnight. Takes me a few minutes to get the balls to approach. Finally get myself to grab some tall blonde in a suit. I hold onto her for a second then lose her. I think she was there with a guy. Same thing with some other girl. I open one or two others too.
Some guy tries to start shit with me. I mock him and laugh it off.
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This was one of the funniest/coolest sets I've done.
I see this super-hot mixed race girl walking towards me and walk up to grab her...and Brother, who was right next to me (unknown to me) tries to open her at the same time. She's like WHOA.
I push Brother out of the way and go in hard on her. He comes back in and tries to push past me. We're both laughing. I screen him out while he keep trying to get to her and I keep trying to hook her.
Brother: forget him! he's married with 3 kids!
Me: ignore him! *still screening him off with my body*
Brother: he has 3 little girls!
Me: they're not born yet it doesn't count!
Girl: OMG
Me: what's your name?
Her: xxxxx
And we lose her. Hahaha I didn't even care. It was so much fun. I really need to man up and take girls from other guys more often.
I go in on probably the hottest girl there and get blown out. She seemed drunk. Funny, I need to stop worrying about blowing out with the hottest girls. I could easily open her again next week. No harm, no foul.
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Knoxville has hooked a blonde girl with a really nice body. Apparently they had met a few weeks earlier.
I go open the friend and sit down next to her to wing. Some guy she was apparently with wanders in front of us looking at his phone for about a minute, then says he's going and that they should get breakfast (lol owned).
I chit chat then pull her over to dance. She has really nice tits but her face is average and she's a few pounds overweight. I debate whether I'd fuck her. I kiss her neck, wait a little too long, then spin her around, move her to the side of the dance floor and makeout with her.
It's on with Knoxville and his girl so I play wingman. I seed the pull, telling my girl that we can drive them back home. Tell Knoxville, walk everyone to the car, leave. They live relatively near his place.
I remember they know one of his roommates. Me: "oh shit lets see if xxxx is still up!" I pull into Knoxville's place and we all go inside. I isolate my girl over on the couch. She's really not very hot. I don't want to do anything.
It's on between Knoxville and his girl though. I try to seed the pull FOR them a few times but he doesn't pull her up to his room. I txt him. He doesn't get it. I call him so he gets his txt. He still doesn't pull her upstairs.
Eventually he takes her around the corner in the kitchen and escalates there while I occupy my girl. We can hear her moaning haha. It doesn't go through though because by the time he tries to pull her up to the room it's obviously for her to get fucked and she doesn't want to look like a slut in front of her friend.
Oh well, he'll fuck her next time.
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1. Good experience just going through the motions of a pull. Didn't really want to fuck my girl, but it was good practice.
2. It's a lot easier for me to pull and escalate when I don't care what happens. When the girl is really hot or otherwise intimidating, however, I'm not pulling the trigger (like with the girl from the date). Oh well, one more reference experience.
Cheers
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Saturday
Met up with Cat during the day. Talked a lot about game, girls, realationships and so on. He's a really smart dude. Oftentimes when I talk to people I'm just listening for their sake, but Cat really has some good insights about all this stuff. He also helped me a bit more with my internet marketing stuff. Finally seems like a full passive income is within my reach. Making $300-400 a month now.
Night.
Whew, odd one tonight.
Me, Knoxville and Brother. We bring one of our girlfriends with us so we end up getting out a bit late and only getting stamped at 1 spot, so only 2 bars tonight.
Knoxville starts beasting right away. The girl with us is super chill about us doing our thing so me and Brother fuck around with this bachelorette party. Knoxville wants me to approach unattactive girls and I get cold feet.
4 of us circle up and chat again. I open this tall half asian girl. Turns out she just wanted a drink. +1 more bad reference experience with half-asians :)
I open a hot russian girl who's (imo) the only other hot girl there. I use the russian I learned last week. She cracks up. Talk for a minute but I'm still a little stiffled. She seems into it but her friend pulls her away after a few minutes.
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Next bar. I think I do one or two, then start walking circles.
I see a stunning blonde who just came in and stop her. A big lesson for tonight is that I generally just need to be more chill. I'll often psych myself up so it's easier to approach girls, but this is counterproductive once I hook. I'll often approach harder than I have to also, which usually doesn't pan out. I just need to approach hard enough that I have her full attention.
This one goes well though. I'm able to stay calm, and her friends leave her to talk to me. She's born here but mostly german. Beautiful light blue eyes and blonde hair, about 5'10. She's one of the prettiest girls I've opened.
We talk for 5 or 10 minutes and her friends come over and I meet them. A gay guy and a girl. They seem to approve of us. She sees a friend from college though and I tell her I'll find her in a few minutes.
10 minutes later I see her again and I bring our girlfriend over with me to introduce her because I forgot the blonde girl's name. Chat for a little more, although I start to stall out more this time. She asks what I'm doing later and says they're going to another spot. Cat's up there so I say I might be able to head there later. I get her number.
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I open another girl or two, then head to another spot with Brother. Blonde girl is there and I notice she reacts kind of weird when she sees me. I don't look at her at first because I'm trying to figure out why she did that and what I should do about it. I go over and re-open her a few minutes later. We dance around a bit but something is off. Turns out they're leaving too. Hmm.
Brother and I open two girls dancing. Felt like it almost worked.
I open the only other relatively cute girl there and her boyfriend comes over, so I leave.
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Back to the other bar...man, I forgot how much I did tonight!
Few more sets, open some brazzilian girl and stay a few minutes but can't get past the language barrier. Some older black lady is (somewhat) playfully trying to fuck me. I open some cute cambodian girl under the pretense of getting away from my harasser. Stall out.
Downstairs, some older dude claws me and tries to pass me off to his cute-but-30-something friend. Her: "I'm really into tall guys". Her: "Are you a good guy?" Me: "no". This goes off incredibly poorly and she leaves. No sense of humor I guess. Her girl friend tries talks to me about it later, and that goes equally poorly. I'm somewhat thrown off by this. Even though I wasn't that attracted to her in the first place, which is why I said what I said, I find myself feeling needy about it.
I wing two hot half-asian girls with Brother. Goes okay for me but I start to stall out again. Brother loses his and she pulls mine away.
I open another hot girl who's leaving and letting her friend get pulled by a black guy. She says she's leaving. I tell her to stay. She won't. I tell her she's going to break my heart. She says it's probably happened plenty of times before. Me: "I can't tell if that's a compliment or an insult". She laughs but won't stay.
At least I'm doing a good job of being calm in set. I think this is really important for me.
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I open a hot mixed race girl while she's walking but can't stop her.
I see her sitting down a few minutes later and go back in.
Me: alright going for attempt number 2
Her: :)
Me: it's like that song, dust yourself off and try again
Her: hahaha
The guy at the table behind her is the same guy who's girlfriend I opened earlier in the night. He gets up and starts talking shit to me. Full white knight shit. I stay calm but he won't back off and keeps talking shit and telling me to fuck off. Normally if a guy knows the girl I'll just leave, or ignore him if he's a chode. But he doesn't know the girl and I'm not really sure how to react. He tells me he's going to hit me if I don't leave and the girl gets up and pulls me away.
It's strange, I don't have a tempter at all and I don't lose my shit over stuff like this, but this one REALLY threw me. I just had this sinking feeling in my chest. It was like anti-state. I've actually never had this type of confrontation before in all the time I've been doing pickup. I've had a few drunk guys talk shit, or random people be asshole-ish, or chodes get annoyed when I blow them out, but never this kind of serious shit. Reall odd.
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We go back to the other spot and I somehow pull myself out of it for a minute and open this hot ~30 year old. Million dollar mouthpiece. I say some really random ass shit and it just happens to be exactly the right thing to say to her. I start to get really phsical and kind of have her pressed up against the wall.
Her: we had blah blah blah to eat because my boyfriend is korean
Me: had to work that in somewhere huh?
Her: no I wasn't trying to
Me: how long have you been together?
Her: 9 months
Me: that's long enough for you to have a little korean baby
I still have her pressed against the wall.
Me; where is he now
Her: new york
Me: that's pretty far, some people say if you're in a different state it doesn't count
She gets kind of quiet and I keep wispering shit into her ear, kind of like you'd do with someone you're dacing with who you already make out with. I can feel the wheels in her head turning, like she's deciding whether to cheat or not.
She lightly pushes me away. "I can't...you're really cute though".
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1. I learn a lot tonight, not all of which I'll be able to remember. Maybe the most important thing is just being calm. Like I said earlier, I go through this process of psyching myself up to approach, and then sometimes I come off like I'm high on something or really nervous. I did a much better job being chill.
2. It was really a great night, but I found myself getting a little bit frustrated at how hard this shit actually is sometimes. I suppose I am going for hotter girls than a lot of guys do, but it's not like they don't want to be pulled too. Process wise and game wise, this was a great night, but it's still frustrating not getting any real results.
3. I got really, really, really phased by that confrontation with the guy. So much of this game is having control over your own emotions.
Met up with Cat during the day. Talked a lot about game, girls, realationships and so on. He's a really smart dude. Oftentimes when I talk to people I'm just listening for their sake, but Cat really has some good insights about all this stuff. He also helped me a bit more with my internet marketing stuff. Finally seems like a full passive income is within my reach. Making $300-400 a month now.
Night.
Whew, odd one tonight.
Me, Knoxville and Brother. We bring one of our girlfriends with us so we end up getting out a bit late and only getting stamped at 1 spot, so only 2 bars tonight.
Knoxville starts beasting right away. The girl with us is super chill about us doing our thing so me and Brother fuck around with this bachelorette party. Knoxville wants me to approach unattactive girls and I get cold feet.
4 of us circle up and chat again. I open this tall half asian girl. Turns out she just wanted a drink. +1 more bad reference experience with half-asians :)
I open a hot russian girl who's (imo) the only other hot girl there. I use the russian I learned last week. She cracks up. Talk for a minute but I'm still a little stiffled. She seems into it but her friend pulls her away after a few minutes.
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Next bar. I think I do one or two, then start walking circles.
I see a stunning blonde who just came in and stop her. A big lesson for tonight is that I generally just need to be more chill. I'll often psych myself up so it's easier to approach girls, but this is counterproductive once I hook. I'll often approach harder than I have to also, which usually doesn't pan out. I just need to approach hard enough that I have her full attention.
This one goes well though. I'm able to stay calm, and her friends leave her to talk to me. She's born here but mostly german. Beautiful light blue eyes and blonde hair, about 5'10. She's one of the prettiest girls I've opened.
We talk for 5 or 10 minutes and her friends come over and I meet them. A gay guy and a girl. They seem to approve of us. She sees a friend from college though and I tell her I'll find her in a few minutes.
10 minutes later I see her again and I bring our girlfriend over with me to introduce her because I forgot the blonde girl's name. Chat for a little more, although I start to stall out more this time. She asks what I'm doing later and says they're going to another spot. Cat's up there so I say I might be able to head there later. I get her number.
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I open another girl or two, then head to another spot with Brother. Blonde girl is there and I notice she reacts kind of weird when she sees me. I don't look at her at first because I'm trying to figure out why she did that and what I should do about it. I go over and re-open her a few minutes later. We dance around a bit but something is off. Turns out they're leaving too. Hmm.
Brother and I open two girls dancing. Felt like it almost worked.
I open the only other relatively cute girl there and her boyfriend comes over, so I leave.
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Back to the other bar...man, I forgot how much I did tonight!
Few more sets, open some brazzilian girl and stay a few minutes but can't get past the language barrier. Some older black lady is (somewhat) playfully trying to fuck me. I open some cute cambodian girl under the pretense of getting away from my harasser. Stall out.
Downstairs, some older dude claws me and tries to pass me off to his cute-but-30-something friend. Her: "I'm really into tall guys". Her: "Are you a good guy?" Me: "no". This goes off incredibly poorly and she leaves. No sense of humor I guess. Her girl friend tries talks to me about it later, and that goes equally poorly. I'm somewhat thrown off by this. Even though I wasn't that attracted to her in the first place, which is why I said what I said, I find myself feeling needy about it.
I wing two hot half-asian girls with Brother. Goes okay for me but I start to stall out again. Brother loses his and she pulls mine away.
I open another hot girl who's leaving and letting her friend get pulled by a black guy. She says she's leaving. I tell her to stay. She won't. I tell her she's going to break my heart. She says it's probably happened plenty of times before. Me: "I can't tell if that's a compliment or an insult". She laughs but won't stay.
At least I'm doing a good job of being calm in set. I think this is really important for me.
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I open a hot mixed race girl while she's walking but can't stop her.
I see her sitting down a few minutes later and go back in.
Me: alright going for attempt number 2
Her: :)
Me: it's like that song, dust yourself off and try again
Her: hahaha
The guy at the table behind her is the same guy who's girlfriend I opened earlier in the night. He gets up and starts talking shit to me. Full white knight shit. I stay calm but he won't back off and keeps talking shit and telling me to fuck off. Normally if a guy knows the girl I'll just leave, or ignore him if he's a chode. But he doesn't know the girl and I'm not really sure how to react. He tells me he's going to hit me if I don't leave and the girl gets up and pulls me away.
It's strange, I don't have a tempter at all and I don't lose my shit over stuff like this, but this one REALLY threw me. I just had this sinking feeling in my chest. It was like anti-state. I've actually never had this type of confrontation before in all the time I've been doing pickup. I've had a few drunk guys talk shit, or random people be asshole-ish, or chodes get annoyed when I blow them out, but never this kind of serious shit. Reall odd.
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We go back to the other spot and I somehow pull myself out of it for a minute and open this hot ~30 year old. Million dollar mouthpiece. I say some really random ass shit and it just happens to be exactly the right thing to say to her. I start to get really phsical and kind of have her pressed up against the wall.
Her: we had blah blah blah to eat because my boyfriend is korean
Me: had to work that in somewhere huh?
Her: no I wasn't trying to
Me: how long have you been together?
Her: 9 months
Me: that's long enough for you to have a little korean baby
I still have her pressed against the wall.
Me; where is he now
Her: new york
Me: that's pretty far, some people say if you're in a different state it doesn't count
She gets kind of quiet and I keep wispering shit into her ear, kind of like you'd do with someone you're dacing with who you already make out with. I can feel the wheels in her head turning, like she's deciding whether to cheat or not.
She lightly pushes me away. "I can't...you're really cute though".
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1. I learn a lot tonight, not all of which I'll be able to remember. Maybe the most important thing is just being calm. Like I said earlier, I go through this process of psyching myself up to approach, and then sometimes I come off like I'm high on something or really nervous. I did a much better job being chill.
2. It was really a great night, but I found myself getting a little bit frustrated at how hard this shit actually is sometimes. I suppose I am going for hotter girls than a lot of guys do, but it's not like they don't want to be pulled too. Process wise and game wise, this was a great night, but it's still frustrating not getting any real results.
3. I got really, really, really phased by that confrontation with the guy. So much of this game is having control over your own emotions.
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Just got a job. Moving to the city within the next month! Glory times await!!
Seriously fucking stoked. This is pretty much the best entry level job anyone could ask for, starting out at $2500 a month and goes up pretty quickly. Did I mention the job was awesome? Hahaha so excited.
Oh and I had lots of sex last night. That was nice :)
Seriously fucking stoked. This is pretty much the best entry level job anyone could ask for, starting out at $2500 a month and goes up pretty quickly. Did I mention the job was awesome? Hahaha so excited.
Oh and I had lots of sex last night. That was nice :)
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HAHAHAHAHAH!!!
No more 3 hour commute for pussy!!! Congrats man.
Also, no more logistics excuse for you now!!! PULL BITCHES!!!
No more 3 hour commute for pussy!!! Congrats man.
Also, no more logistics excuse for you now!!! PULL BITCHES!!!
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Proactive Action
" also focus on the STEPS, all this talk about "i feel this way" and "i FEEL that way" who gives a shit how you fucking FEEL. Focus on EXECUTION"--jlaix
"Self improvement is masturbation, now self destruction ..." - Tyler Durden (Fight Club)
" also focus on the STEPS, all this talk about "i feel this way" and "i FEEL that way" who gives a shit how you fucking FEEL. Focus on EXECUTION"--jlaix
"Self improvement is masturbation, now self destruction ..." - Tyler Durden (Fight Club)
Also, you shouldn't tell the fuck buddy girl about the job or moving to seattle.
She''ll start asking silly questions about relationships and other girly bullshit.
She''ll start asking silly questions about relationships and other girly bullshit.
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Proactive Action
" also focus on the STEPS, all this talk about "i feel this way" and "i FEEL that way" who gives a shit how you fucking FEEL. Focus on EXECUTION"--jlaix
"Self improvement is masturbation, now self destruction ..." - Tyler Durden (Fight Club)
" also focus on the STEPS, all this talk about "i feel this way" and "i FEEL that way" who gives a shit how you fucking FEEL. Focus on EXECUTION"--jlaix
"Self improvement is masturbation, now self destruction ..." - Tyler Durden (Fight Club)
Enjoyable read. Makes me want to step up harder =)
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"Man is a political animal" -Aristotle
The blog: youcangetthatgirl.blogspot.com
"Man is a political animal" -Aristotle
Cat
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Join Date: 12/03/2010 | Posts: 1954
The problem is that we're literally just not there yet, still getting reference experiences to make that shit litearlly NORMAL. My point is simply that you gotta realize how far you've gone to change your life in terms of what is normal. I read maybe the first 3 or 4 pages of your thread. Compare that normal to this normal. INSANE. Simply insane.
The other thing that I've been TRYING to do is to look at this shit in a WAY larger perspective.. like.. 6 months to a year. How is my year going? How does this year stack up to last year? Etc. Helps me realize that the improve is enormous even though its inching along day by day.
And man, finally, and I'll keep saying this, you HAVE TO MOVE HERE fuuuuuuck. You would be SWIMMING IN IT dude. Seriously you have MAD SKILLS, like, blow my mind spectator mode skills. Straight up you are getting cockblocked by your own logistics. Then again I think it's that whole seedling that reaches the surface of the earth, where the farmer throws more soil on top to make it stronger: you have a more challenging logistical setup to handle but as a result you are playing at a higher difficulty.. and when that shit becomes normal.. fuckin jesus man. Like.. that's the shit --> getting consistent at pulling to some girls house means you can travel the world and get laid like a rockstar. That sounds rad to me. So I guess it's all how you see it ;)
Either way dude it sounds like you're doing real fucking well. I'd be interested in hearing more about a specific gameplan you have in terms of your actual nights out. I find having two or three "process" things to focus on makes the "outcomes" of my night fuckin sick because I hit my goals and feel good, let go of needing it to go anywhere past that, lose that outcome dependence ("Well I hit my goals so all this is extra awesomeness") and end up having really fun nights.
And also one last thing: it's crazy but it seems like state isn't even required to do well, at least I'm reading that in your posts and I've had some recent experiences like that myself. That's a trip and frankly I think it goes to show that when you hit a certain level of BEING and sorta .. "natural congruence / calibration" you can actually be in a weird / not quite 120% state but still fucking WRECK.
Ping me about the day2 stuff man, more than happy to help with ideas and shit.
Stay classy baby ;)