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Matt281

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Been out a few times but nothing really worth writing about.

Today was cool though. I opened this GORGEOUS girl in the gym and it went pretty well, but it was really brief cause she was leaving. She's kind of exotic looking; mocha skin and bright green eyes, amazing body. Just kind of got my foot in the door this time, but I'll push it next time I see her.

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1. The weird thing about this whole pickup game is I feel like I've improved a TON, but when it comes to day game and social circle game, not really at all. It kind of sucks because that's usually where I meet the hottest and coolest girls. I guess it should be obvious that you get better at what you do the most, but I'm a little frustrated with the lack of carry over. I just never seem to get results with the girls I'd really like to date, or at least REALLY like to hook up with.

wish me luck with the stunner...yet again...

2. It would be really cool to get a little feedback on the pull last saturday. I'm trying to figure out what was so different about that then all the times I've pulled but not closed. I know there's not a ton of detail, but any ideas?

Cheers
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Kind of half-heartedly tried to pull one a bartender tonight. She wasn't that cute though, and as I left I kind of found myself thinking "what am I doing?".

See, (and if you've followed this you probably already know this) I'm not really the kind of guy who wants to fuck 100 girls. Personally all I ever wanted out of game was to be able to get the girls I really want, which really haven't been the same girls I've pulled and/or closed. Jeffy's motto has always made a lot of sense to me: "you get better at fucking girls by fucking girls", but at the same time, I really don't feel like I'm making progress in the areas I really want to.

On one hand I really have gotten a lot better at all this. 2 years ago I was basically socially retarded when it came to picking ups girls. Now, even though I haven't had that many tangible results (except for the pull 3 weeks ago) I think I basically know what I'm doing and if I went more gung-ho with this I could probably pull once a month. On the other hand though, I feel like it's really only SNL game that I've gotten better at, and that's not usually where I meet the girls I really like.

I guess it should be self evident: rsd is a cold-approach, same night lay company. Don't get me wrong, I think they're the best and that's why I'm here, but I just don't know if the kind of stuff I'm doing is the best way to accomplish my goals with all of this.

I want to be able to make something happen with that gorgeous girl on the street, those stunners in my social circle, and yeah, that bombshell in the club too. And I don't feel like I've made all that much progress towards that goal. 

You get better at what you practice, so maybe I need to put more effort into getting what I really want and put less faith in cold approach.

Or maybe not...

Cheers 
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I don't see it as just SNL stuff here... I came back a year after studying tons of RSD material and being in field all over the world. Now all my social circle who I was "the friend" with, seem to want to fuck me. I'll let you know the results though. I go back home in May for a few weeks. I was only home for a few days last time. I plan to make the most of it this time. :) <3 life.
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Yeah man definitely let me know how it goes. I notice similar things with my old social circle too, but I don't know how much of that is due to cold approach pickup.
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Funny that this kind of stuff is still a big deal for me, but it is lol.

Over the past week or so I've randomly seen this girl on campus several times. She's not a stunner, but defnitely cute (8 or so I guess) and I'm unusually drawn to her for some reason. Weird how that happens sometimes.

So on wednesday I end up sitting across from her at the tables outside and I figure it really doesn't get any easier than this. But for some reason, as I'm sure some of you have experienced, I have this huge aversion to approaching her. I can't logically reason with my mind about this. Logically I'm okay with being rejected, I'm ok if she has a boyfriend, and I'm cool with crashing and burning however many times it takes. I can't understand why I'm afraid to go.

As usual I wait just a little too long and she gets up, and I start kicking myself wondering if I even deserve this if I'm not gonna try. I get up a few minutes later and I get lucky this time: she's waiting for a bus or something nearby.

Me: hey you were just over there reading right (we had made eye contact a few times)
Her: yeah
Me: This is completely random but I think you're really cute
Her: *half way lights up*
Me: I'm matt
Her: xxxx
Me: do you wanna hang out some time?
Her: possibly....I have a boyfriend
Me: well that might make things weird, unless you want another one =)
Her: haha no, actually he's right there *a guy pops out of nowhere and introduces himself, I think that's what she was waiting for*

I say one or two more things and take off.

The outcome really doesn't matter that much. I feel fucking EXHILARATED as I walk away and I can't understand why I'd ever let an opportunity like that slide. It just makes you feel so alive, whether or not it works out at that particular time.

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1. I've said this before, but I really do love this stuff when I actually man up and do it. Being rejected feels infinitely better than not approaching and I've truly never regretted and approach. Day game feels so real and genuine too, and I literally feel like I'm riding a high every time I do it, whether I kill it or get shot down.

2. Like I said it's really hard to reason with myself when I'm there, because there's no logical reason not it. I think the only key is to just make it a habit. Habit is something I've thought a lot about lately, since I can see how it applies to other parts of my life. Eating healthy and working out aren't something I have to do anymore, their just part of who I am and probably always will be. Same thing with money - I've developed a habit of being smart about spending money, so I don't need to budget, I just don't spend money on shit I don't need.

I really think that's the key to this. You just have to push past it, even though it's incredibly fucking difficult sometimes, and after a while it just becomes who you are.

3. Tyler made some reference to pickup being like playing slot machines when you have infinite coins - why would you not play? Especially with day game, I've really thought about it like scratching loterry tickets. If someone gives you a ticket, it's already decided whether you'll win or lose. The same is true for cold approach pickup: given where you're at now and whether the girl has a boyfriend or not, it's already either going to work or not. It's already decided, and the only thing you've got to do roll the dice and find out...So scratch that motherfucker!

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Went to a ridiculous party last night and had a blast, but I didn't make a lot happen. It was a flipcup tournament and I was just vibing and meeting people early on, but then everyone started leaving after they lost (much to my suprise, since it was pretty much the 150 coolest guys and hottest girls from my school in one place). Anyway, met a lot of people so that'll help in the future.

Cheers!
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Saturday. All my friends bailed and I almost don't go out, but hey, gotta put in the work right? The normal social bar sucks so I go get stamped at the cover bar, leave for 15 minutes and come back to get in for free. This is the closest thing to an anonymous bar because it's not the college crowd - I might come here alone on saturdays on purpose so I don't feel so pressured by social circle stuff.

A pretty cute tall burnette girl is off to the side of her friends for a second so I go in. I go pretty direct and it starts off ok, but I think my vibe may have ruined it. I found myself looking over at her friends almost like I was checking with them if it was okay, and after a minute or two she said she wanted to go back to them. Somethimes its hard to put your finger on what went wrong, but I definitely have a good sense of how the interaction is going.

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I chode around for a while. I'm 100% sober and it's just hard to get myself to go. I find myself trying to analyze things without taking action, like I'll stand there and try to figure out who's together and which girls seem to be blowing guys out really bad. Stupid. It's like I'm trying to figure the girls out without talking to them.

Most of the attractive girls are in the typical one piece dresses and heels, but there's this one stunner with her group of friends and their all dressed like a hip hop dance crew. I chode around a bit then finally go when she's standing apart from her friends for a second.

Me: who are you?
Her: what?
Me: what's your name?
Her: xxxx
Me: I'm matt

The first thing I notice is she has rough hands. Hmm, whatever, she's ridiculous hot.

Me: you look like you can dance
Her: yeah...I would but I can't

We're on the dance floor so I'm pretty physical.

Me: dance with me
Her: I have a girlfriend
Me: I can handle that
Her: haha no really

Her friends come over and introduce themselves. She kisses the other cute girl. I'm still not buying it.

Her: it's her birthday
Me: so are you supervising?
Her; what?
Me: you can't do anything because you've gotta keep her out of trouble?
Her: haha no nothing like that

I plow a bit more because she's really hot and I'm used to girls shit testing by pretending to be lesbian. Then she drops this:

Her: I was with a guy for a few years, but now I'm with her (the birthday girl). we've been together 5 months now
Me: whoa really?
Her: yeah look how I'm dressed haha
Me: you look like a dancer...I didn't get the lesbian vibe
Her: yeah
Me: ...Are you bi then?
Her: no...I really would dance with you I just can't
Me: haha I thought you were just fucking with me. Well, if you ever switch back I hope I run into you.

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So that's that. I really wish I could capture what the interaction was really like, but it's impossible with text. As sets with lesbians go, it actually went really well. Since she'd been straight until recently, I really still got the impression that she was attracted on some level and just couldn't act on it, which was cool because I don't get that a lot from stunners. Moreover, sets don't really get a lot harder than girls-night-out-lesbian-stunner-on-a-loud-dance-floor. What am I afraid of?

I learned some important stuff too.

1. I think I did a great job staying in set here. Usually I'll either just eject prematurely or when I do purposefully try to ride it out I start to get in my head and make it really awkward. This was a solid example of pushing an interaction foreward even if I wasn't going to get anywhere, and I think if she had been more on the fence I'd have had a chance.

2. Don't fucking assume you know what people are like. If I hadn't approached her I'd have pegged her as a kinda bitchy, super-hot, in-group dancer with a strong personality. Really the type to blow you out of the water or just give you the stink eye and turn around. You never fucking know until you try...

...not that her being a legit lesbian was actually any better lol.

Whatever, cheers. I had a good night.
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Cinco de Mayo.

It's really hard to push past the social circle stuff, but hey, it can work in your favor too occassionally. I spend the first half of the night dicking around, talking to people and not approaching. AA really constitutes 90% of my problems - this shit really isn't that hard once I get in there.

Anyway, about half way through the night I switch venues and find a group of my friends at the new bar. One of them is a cute girl (HB8 blonde) who I've ran into a lot while I'm out but she's always with a big group sitting around and it never seems like a decent situation. This time I see her on the dance floor with her friends and it goes something like this:

Me: do you remember my name this time?
Her: matt (sounds like she says it wrong)
Me: no, matt
Her: I said matt
Me: you said mark

I'm being physical throughout this little enchange and she keeps insisting she said it right as I pull her in to dance. We dance facing each other at the start, then I turn her around and grind her from the back for a little. It hasn't been too long at all before she turns back around and we kiss. I turn her around again and we dance in a group with her roommates and my friend (who's dating one of them). I kiss her neck as we dance and it's really sexual, about as sexual as it gets without gropping her tits or whipping my dick out =O

We grind for a bit more and then the three girls decide to go to the bathroom. She turns around and puts her hands on my chest and gives me that sort of puppy dog look, saying she'll be right back. We make out and I let her go.

Then, apparently someone in the group already called a cab (it's like 1:00 by now) and they all have to go. And that's that. Felt like I needed a little more time to close the deal, but it was definitely there. I'm actually not really sure why it happened like this other than the dude I didn't know calling a cab - one of her cute friends kept glancing at me and talking to my girl in that sort of suggestive - "go for it" kind of way, or at least that's what it looked like to me.

They leave and some ~5 girl asks me to dance. I do and for some reason we end up kissing (didn't get a good enough look at her from the front I guess). She thinks I'm funny and wants to fuck me but I bullshit my way out. That whole thing kind of throws me out of state, so I don't really do anything else before I leave.

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1. Weird with the hot blonde girl. I definitely didn't get the "oh that was a fun dance/makeout, bye" kind of vibe. More the dreamy, wishful kind of vibe, hanging onto me and puppy dog eyes. Her friends would have been fine with us hooking up too. I dunno - raped by logistics again? Hopefully won't be weird next time I see her and I can close the deal, but it's hard to say.

2. Like I said, it really is just AA for me. Really. Escalation is cake, physical stuff feels 100% natural, and I'm witty/funny when I don't get in my head. God! if I could just get over the perfectionism bullshit, stop wanting it to work so bad and be willing to fuck things up to make it work, everyting would just come together. AHSGSFGSf!!!!!

Cheers =)
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When her and her friends are leaving just tell her to stay with you a little while, or go back to your place and check your photos, or tell her you want to fuck her brains out. hahah. Just try something right? Lead lead lead.
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Dude, the best way to get rid of AA is to just run around the club shitting the bed and racking up blowouts. Way to go with the blonde man, next time you should knock out the digits before she leaves, that way if you lose sight of her it's not a big deal, I'm learning to do this too. One great idea I saw on the forum is to ask for numbers of all the girls you're into over the course of the night and just throw out a mass text at closing time if you're leaving empty handed.
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@ Kenny - Ya man, it just hit me out of nowhere was the thing. If I had been with her when they decided to leave that would have been a lot easier, but it was right after they got out of the bathroom and the cab was waiting outside. Thanks for the feedback though!

@ Left hand - Yeah, definitely true about AA. Sometimes I feel like I just can't get myself to go (arg!). Tonight was way better for that though. Cool idea about getting all the numbers early. I guess I've really just fallen into jeffy's paradim - it seems like I only go for numbers when the pull is out of the question. Maybe not the best idea before you're pulling a lot though. I'll keep that in mind, thanks!

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Tonight was pretty cool actually but unusual for me. We head to the normal social bar and it's less packed than usual because cinco was yesterday. I see this girl I know/like and shoot the shit with her for a minute, then end up talking with this other girl who my friend knows. We hear about a party but before we leave I run over to the girl I like and get her number (~HB8, dirty blonde hair). Goes really smooth.

We head to the party and I'm really all over the place. I dance with half a dozen different girls and make out with the cutest one, feeling her waist and bra under her shirt. Then she leaves. That one really was more the "k thx for the dance/makeout, bye" kind of thing. I hit on a few other girls and their relatively receptive but I can't seem to escalate on anyone. Girls I don't really like open like nothing on the dance floor, but I really don't get too far with the girls I want.

Cool thing about tonight was it didn't feel at all like pickup. It was just me trying to get laid, I got kinda close a few times.

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1. Seem to be getting more consistent. Pulled a month ago and I've gotten relatively close quite a few times since then. Lots of makeouts - like more this week than the whole first year I was in this.

2. Funny, it really still is about the girl I really like and not all the random 6s and 7s. Best part of tonight was getting the number, even though there were a ton of other girls.

3. Must have done a dozen "sets" tonight or so. Not bad.

Cheers, and thanks again for the comments guys. Really appreciate getting feedback.
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