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May 23rd, 2017
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Matt281

Matt281

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Haha I had the feeling I'd get ripped a new asshole as soon as I saw your name come up. I seem to go into chode mode with girls I really like still. Probably just scarcity mentality. It'll be much better next time though ;)

Thanks man, cheers and good luck with the website
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Matt281

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Went out last night. Met a really cute friend of a friend and talked to her for a bit. About to go out again tonight.

What I'm really realizing more than anything is that the only real issue is that I'm not trying. Most times I really express interest it goes well. I need to get out of the frame where I'm waiting to learn enough that I'll reach the magical world of pickup stardom and hot girls will just throw themselves at me. I can already do this shit - and I'm not just saying that as some self affirmation bullshit. I can. All I've gotta do is try, and when I inevitably get interest, escalate and close.

I've got to stop learning how to pick up girls and just go out and pick them up.

Cheers
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Matt281

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Went out for my friend's bday tonight. Got really drunk. Some guy bought us all like $200 in drinks then ended up on the sidewalk getting picked up by the ambulance.

First real set was these two girls sitting and talking. I grab a chair and sit down with them. They're 5 and 3 years older than me respectively, both 7s. The one I'm interested in (the 25 year old) is standoffish at first but I'm persistent and when I see them at the next bar I keep pressing. All I can get out of her is a kiss on the cheek though.

I grab one or two other girls I know though. Wait...haha I'm drunk. Ok there was this girl I approached a few months ago and it was awkward because she was getting over her boyfriend and he was there. But I see her again and dance with her. 7 also. Can't get anything more than dancing out of her though. No kisses or intimacy =(

Then I randomly walk up to this girl and it turns out she knows me from soccer. I'm really physical and we almost kiss a few times, but she tells me she's "committed". Turns out her boyfriend is there. We dance a bit anyway. 7 also, blonde.

Then near the end of the night there's these two other blonde 7s sitting have an intimate conversation. Of course I sit down with them randomly and ruin it, but I end up going back to their appartment building with them. An hour and a half later I'm in some guys room doing pretty well with one of them, but them her friend wants to go to sleep in her room in the same building and she decide's she's gonna sleep over at her friend's. Oh well.

Went ok, not too disapointed. Unfortunately none of the 9s I know were out and I couldn't hit on them. Had a good time anyway. Maybe tomorrow.

cheers
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Matt281

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Went out 4 nights in a row this week. Thursday and Friday are above.

Saturday - Went to two house parties that were across the street from each other. Neither was that great, but not bad. Some girl was all over me at one of them, basically throwing herself at me all night. Not hot though. Pretty face but that's it. I wish it was that easy with hot girls because I get this from average girls relatively often.

Sunday - Surprisingly there was a ton of hot girls out at the club, I guess cause it's president's day weekend. I got blown out a few times early and pretty much didn't get good reactions all around, so my state plummeted and I couldn't get myself to push some sets forward that I could have. Namely there was this one girl who was sitting with like 3 guy who I bumped into but I waited too long to go back in and missed my chance. Plus there was this one gorgeous burnette girl (9 easy) who I met through a friend but that's it. I was pretty drunk but didn't feel good like I did on friday.

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1. Sunday was pretty rough. I still feel like some girls just really don't want to be approached. Maybe it's the vibe I'm putting off though.

2. It's really annoying still the disjuncture I feel between average girls and really hot girls. Average girls make it really easy and it's not uncommon for them to just throw themselves at me.

3. i guess rough nights are part of this, but man, sometimes it's hard to tell if i'm actually getting better at this.
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There's usually a lot of people out on thursdays but it snowed so I guess more people stayed in. We go bar hopping a bit (I'm sober, my friend isn't) and the first place we really stay for more than a couple minutes is the main club. It's pretty empy though.

I run into this guy I know but haven't seen in like 6 months, and then when my friend that I came with goes to the bathroom, he introduces me to this blonde girl he's with - it looked like she asked him to be introduced because I wasn't in their group or anything and she went up and said something to him. She's about a 7. My friend comes back out of the bathroom and we have kind of a chodey 3 way conversation. Then this guy who knows her tries to cockblock me and screen us out. I don't really care enough to deal with it.

We wait around another few minutes because my friend wants to talk to this cute looking burnette at the bar (only other decent looking girl there) but he never does.

We go back to the regular socializing bar where approaching sucks but it's good for hanging out with friends. Not much later the brunette girl from the last bar shows up with her friends and one of my friends introduces us.

Another 3 way conversation. I qualify the hell out of her - mostly just because that's the turn the conversation takes - and it seems to be working pretty well. I just state an opinion and she tries to live up to it. I guess it's all genuine but it does feel a little "gamey" or like I'm trying to "win" a social interaction or something.

Funny though: as a qualify her I actually start to lose interest. She agrees with me on everything but she just doesn't seem very cool.

We all go out for some food, and by this point it's like she's checking with me every time she does something to make sure it's ok. I decide I don't really like her that much though, and she's only a 7 or so anyway. She seems to like me but she's pretty drunk and really tired, and at this point I don't really want to do anything with her anyway.

The girls leave and it's just us 3 guys. I'm sure I could have got her number and it would have been solid, but I just didn't want to. Oh well.

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1. Talking to girls when you approach them is such a different dynamic from talking with girls that are just there. Whenever I approach I feel like I have to hang on to something or I'll blow out, whereas with the two girls here it was immediately like "ok, we're talking...so let's talk". I don't know if it's just pressure I put on myself or what, but it's way easier this way.

2. Even when I'm doing well I keep going back to what people who are better keep saying: "how the fuck is this leading to you fucking her tonight?" Like ok yeah I'm getting attraction/investment or whatever. Cool, but it's gotta be way different if I'm going to be closing. I just don't really know how to take it there quickly. I guess I should just be more outrageous/sexual earlier, but my mind doesn't seem to work that way. If I don't go direct it usually takes me a while to get sexual.

3. There's still this disjuncture for me around really hot girls and me around kind of hot girls. It's getting a lot better, but with the 9s it's harder for me because I get in my head more. I just want it too much.

Cheers guys.
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Back with a vengeance bitches! Read up, this is a good one.

I haven't been out as much lately because my time at college is wrapping up and I've got a lot of other stuff going on, but I made it out to the city last night for my friend's birthday.

It's the same house I've been to and wrote about a few times. The place where I blew it with that short ballet dancer over xmas break and the place where I got cockblocked just as I was putting my dick in a year ago. Good spot for sure though.

The night starts off pretty normal with the small group of good friends there first and other people pouring in by 11 or 11:30. I vibe with everyone for the first hour or so and meet a lot of people; the atmosphere is so much better than college house parties. By the time everyone gets there there's 3 cute girls: a fucking sexy mixed-race girl with long black hair and an amazing body, the ~7 ballet dancer who I hit on last time I was at the house, and another ~7.5 girl with black hair and an ethnicity I couldn't really put my finger on.

Naturally I decide not to put all my eggs in one basket.

I meet the really hot mixed-race girl relatively early on. She actually introduces herself to me and the guy I'm talking to, I don't think she knew many people there. I try to talk to her a few times and she tells me she's "awkward" which I guess could explain why she's really hard to talk to. She seems to take off really quick whenever I start talking to her, but I don't end up pushing it that hard because after a little while I get caught up with the other girls more. Would have loved to get this girl naked though. She had that look where you literally get really turned on when you see her.

I talk with the short ballet dancer from last time too. She acts somewhat interested but a little standoffish. She seems like the type that likes the attention but really isn't DTF.

Mostly though, I talk to the third girl. She's a little hotter than short ballet girl and she's a dancer too, as are her two friends. I think just introduce myself to her and her friend on the porch by the fire out back and we start talking a little. It's a costume party and she doesn't have one, so I rag on her a little about that. She tells me she's dressed up as my fantasy girl. I'm wearing a raggedy half-assed santa costume and but I become "fantasy santa" nevertheless haha. It's funny how just a little suggestive exchange changes the whole dynamic between you and the girl.

At this point I'm still bouncing back and forth a little trying to keep my options open. Not much luck with the ~9 mixed-race girl and I'm thinking of just going direct with her and hoping for the best, but everyone knows everyone and I don't want to burn bridges. Things are going just well enough with the HBshortballet that I'm still trying, but not any better than that.

I push it more with HBdancer and things start heating up. We dance and make out, not necessarily in that order. I'm getting pretty damn drunk at this point. It's going really well but then I lose her and I'm speed walking around the house for a few minutes trying to find her before she leaves or something. I find her out front with her friends and she starts giving me shit about hitting on the ballet girl. She didn't see me but I think the other girl told her or something...wtf. This is the first time hitting on multiple girls has really bit me in the ass.

Anyway, I disarm all that after half an hour or so and we're back to making out. Then dancing, dancing and more dancing. She's the hip-hop type.



Either I'm getting a little better at all this or karma is finally giving me a break after getting ass fucked by logistics and shit everytime I pull. I get shit organized, grab the birthday boy to make sure he goes home with her friend and we all get in a taxi. Plan's to go back to her friend's place but her place is close and I have the bright idea that we'll just get dropped off there (smooooooth right?!).

Karma still owes me for fucking me over in the past, so her roommate is a baller and goes and sleeps on the couch without saying a word (they share a bedroom).

Clothes come off but I'm fucking smashed and can't get it up. I tell her to use her mouth a little but she doesn't want to, so I go down on her for a bit but she still doesn't want to give me head. Long story short, wait an hour or two so sober up a little then fuck the shit out of her. She has trouble getting really wet again and I really have to force it in. When she gets on top of me it actually hurts like hell and I actually almost have to stop her before she gets a little more wet. Nevertheless, sex is great after we get going.

I wait 20 minutes, roll her over and fuck her again. Then again an hour later. Leave in the morning running on an hour of sleep and being cheap like I am, walk/jog 4 miles back to my car. My dick still hurts.

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1. Fucking finally things go my way. I just had to say that.

2. Logistics are fucking huge, but not in the way everyone talks about them like the location of your house, who's driving, etc. What I mean is just the dynamics of the party. I'm basically 2 for 3 the last two parties at this place and it's really just the way the dynamics of it are set up. That's why I get so frustrated with the parties and bars at my school, they just fucking suck for pulling compared to parties like this and good bars.

3. First time I've really ran into problems hitting on more than one girl. Gotta be careful about that stuff.

4. I really have to be more careful. It's really easy to get caught up in the moment, but I fucked this girl without a condom without asking any questions. She was on BC and I think I'll be fine, but just sort of a wake up call. It's pretty easy to slip up when you're really drunk, but it only takes once to fuck up your life. Really not worth it - but hey, I don't have room for 3 condoms in my wallet so shit.

Cheers!!
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Good to see karma helping for once. I have a problem with the condoms lately... but just a word of advice... if you don't use them, at least spill the seed outside haha. My friend got owned by this when his one night stand lied about being on birth control. Now they have a kid. Without a condom is kinda bad already (i mean fucking awesome) but busting inside not the best of ideas. (unless it's oprah obv.)
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Yeah I'm with you 100% there. Guess we all slip up sometimes. I have friends who got fucked as well, even with a condom or when the girl actually was on birth control. Just gotta be as careful as you can I guess.

Cheers man, thanks for the comment.
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Been out a few times but nothing really worth writing about.

Today was cool though. I opened this GORGEOUS girl in the gym and it went pretty well, but it was really brief cause she was leaving. She's kind of exotic looking; mocha skin and bright green eyes, amazing body. Just kind of got my foot in the door this time, but I'll push it next time I see her.

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1. The weird thing about this whole pickup game is I feel like I've improved a TON, but when it comes to day game and social circle game, not really at all. It kind of sucks because that's usually where I meet the hottest and coolest girls. I guess it should be obvious that you get better at what you do the most, but I'm a little frustrated with the lack of carry over. I just never seem to get results with the girls I'd really like to date, or at least REALLY like to hook up with.

wish me luck with the stunner...yet again...

2. It would be really cool to get a little feedback on the pull last saturday. I'm trying to figure out what was so different about that then all the times I've pulled but not closed. I know there's not a ton of detail, but any ideas?

Cheers
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Kind of half-heartedly tried to pull one a bartender tonight. She wasn't that cute though, and as I left I kind of found myself thinking "what am I doing?".

See, (and if you've followed this you probably already know this) I'm not really the kind of guy who wants to fuck 100 girls. Personally all I ever wanted out of game was to be able to get the girls I really want, which really haven't been the same girls I've pulled and/or closed. Jeffy's motto has always made a lot of sense to me: "you get better at fucking girls by fucking girls", but at the same time, I really don't feel like I'm making progress in the areas I really want to.

On one hand I really have gotten a lot better at all this. 2 years ago I was basically socially retarded when it came to picking ups girls. Now, even though I haven't had that many tangible results (except for the pull 3 weeks ago) I think I basically know what I'm doing and if I went more gung-ho with this I could probably pull once a month. On the other hand though, I feel like it's really only SNL game that I've gotten better at, and that's not usually where I meet the girls I really like.

I guess it should be self evident: rsd is a cold-approach, same night lay company. Don't get me wrong, I think they're the best and that's why I'm here, but I just don't know if the kind of stuff I'm doing is the best way to accomplish my goals with all of this.

I want to be able to make something happen with that gorgeous girl on the street, those stunners in my social circle, and yeah, that bombshell in the club too. And I don't feel like I've made all that much progress towards that goal. 

You get better at what you practice, so maybe I need to put more effort into getting what I really want and put less faith in cold approach.

Or maybe not...

Cheers 
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