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Matt281 wrote:

It seems so up in the air right now that  I could easily be fucking her if I'm "on" on thursday, and I could easily get absolutely nowhere if I act like a chode.
No. You will fuck her or I'll be upset. Now you can't act like a chode :)
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Probably too drunk to write this. Almost threw up at the club.

The night didn't really go how I'd hoped. I had fun, but didn't really get anywhere. I met up with HB9lawyer but it was more like "yeah we're gonna be down at the bars" me "ok probably see you there" than anything else. I talked with her for 10 or 15 minutes when I saw her, but she went home at 11:30 so fuck my life. I sorta get the feeling that she's not really that interested, which is annoying because that's happened way too many times. I mean, our interactions are good but I don't feel like she's riding the "we're gonna end up fucking" vibe with me.

Had fun and hit on some other hot girls afterwards. I didn't isolate/escalate enough though and one of us got distracted.

Stayed late and made myself throw up a little in the club bathroom. It's actually pretty hard to make yourself throw up.

Cheers. Maybe I'll give some insights into how I'm feeling in the morning.
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Been kinda slow for the last week. I went out and had a pretty good time but nothing worth writing about. Hopefully it'll be better tonight, although I'm just getting over being sick (I never get sick!). I just finished all my midterms this week so I'm feeling good and relaxed.

Other random stuff:
-Not looking great with HB9lawyer girl (sorry Drama =/). I can just tell she's not really interested, so I kind of just let it go. Weird because it seemed good at the start and I played it pretty well - not needy at all, not weird, pretty good interactions - but just kind of lost it (if she actually was interested initially). If there's one thing to take away though, it's that it's not some way I'm playing it wrong or some technique that's lacking -  I just can't expect every gorgeous girl to like me. It's still a numbers game.

-Been working on indirect/natural stuff in my classes a bit (the kind of stuff normal guys who are good do). I met the only cute girl in my second class (HB7hippie), got her number and we've talked/studied together a bit. I haven't really pushed it at all because i was in the middle of things with the girl above, so it's kind of platonic though.

Also met the only other "hot" (besides hb9lawyer) girl in my classes today, HB8. She seems nice.

-One of my friends picked up a copy of The Game and wants to go out and try that stuff. He doesn't know I'm community.

Anyway, like I said nothing much going on. Hopefully some big updates tonight.
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Pretty good night.

Went over to a friends, which turns out to be a party of about 15 people. Mostly drinking games and beerpong. Hottest girl there is a 7. We have staring contests and I go from there. She sits on my lap, holds my hand and all that. It's pretty much on. Unfortunately there's some social circle/other pressures that I don't really want to explain. My roommate convinces me not to push it.

Takeaways
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1. Don't leave set when you have it ...I know this already, dunnno why I do it
2. Small parties/get togethers are by far the easiest place to pull someone
3. Fuck social circle pressures/bullshit. This girl wanted it.

Cheers
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Another night quite a bit like the last one. I like this group of people: cool guys, a couple staple cool girls and a few new girls every time.

I get picked up around 10 by one of my girlfriends and her roommates. She's a 7.5 or so but I wouldn't hook up with her. Her roommate is about equally hot. I think to myself as we're driving over there that there's at least gonna be one hot girl there (the roommate) so I know I'll have something to work with.

We get there though, and there's this other girl. Skinny, black tights, brown hair and a gorgeous face. Arguably a 9; I'd give her the benefit of the doubt.

Anyway, I spend the next 3 hours doing the regular social circle game on her. It goes well, but definitely not smoothly or easily. Every guy there obviously wants to fuck her and she seems inseperable from her friend. Younger girls seem so much harder to isolate (I think she's 18) because their such arousal junkies. If there's anything fun going on, it's really hard to get them alone and sit them down. She seemed to like me, but I didn't feel like I could get anywhere without talking to her alone for a bit.

Things start to calm down a little bit around 1:00, but my ride leaves and I start wondering how I'm gonna get home. Right when I decide I'm going to have to push things foward with this girl, my friend yells that he found us a ride and they're almost here.

I weigh my options and decide I don't have a good enough chance of hooking up with this girl to warrant having to walk 3 miles home in the rain.

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1. I feel like I don't really know how to push the envelope in this kind of situation. I mean in a bar you can just escalate hard and find out pretty quick whether you're going to be able to pull the girl or whether you're wasting your time. When there's just a dozen people sitting around playing drinking games and beer pong, it's harder to know where you stand.

2. I still feel like this kind of situation is the easiest/best place to pull hot girls. However, it's frustrating because standing out from other guys can be harder. In a bar, just the fact that you're cold approaching sets you apart from most other guys and you can figure out pretty quick whether the girl likes you or not. Not so much in this kind of situation.

Well, good night anyway. One of these days I'll pull one of the 9s and it'll be awesome =)

Cheers
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Loving your FRs. Especially relate to this: "The annoying part is I always feel like I have it, then I lose it. Like the girl likes me and somewhere along the way I fuck it up." Often I'll meet a girl when I'm "on" and she'll be interested then I fail to take action or act chodely in 1 or 2 interactions with her and the whole vibe changes, now I'm just some guy she knows - yet another guy who liked her but didn't do anything about it and now it's too late.
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Yeah man, that's pretty much been my experience all the way through college trying to date girls. I can see improvement though; getting further along with some extremely hot girls.

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So tonight kinda sucked. Went to my friends' place who usually have a few hot girls over but since it snowed a shitload tonight (doesn't snow much here) I don't think a lot of people were out. Should have gone down to the bars.

One thing I've really been thinking about though is how hugely underestimated logistics are in college. I know a lot of cool guys, but this group is the first I've found that seem to get layed A LOT. It's not that they're any cooler than anyone else or have better game. It's just that they get groups of girls to come over every weekend and play drinking games with 15-20 people there.

I can't describe how much easier it seems to get layed in this situation than at a big party or at a bar. Like that girl 2 weeks ago was totally DTF (she actually stayed when her friends left, I'm pretty sure because she wanted to fuck me). It was just easy: not because my game was good or because she was a slut; the situation is just perfect for that.

Cheers.
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I'm back home for thanksgiving weekend, so I went out with my friend to the closest good bars about 45 minute to an hour away. My friend, by the way, is the one who's reading The Game and just found out about the community.

Anyway, we go to the first of 2 good bars to meet a girl we both know but it turns out she's at another one. However, we run into two other girls my friend knows (HB7redhead and HB6glasses), so we sit down and talk to them for a bit.

We have to pull up chairs and I end up sitting next to HBglasses and my friend next to HBredhead. There's a little talking as a group and then we sort of branch off into seperate conversations with our respective girls. His is cute, mine would be fine is I was drunk, but I'm sober. She's not bad looking but I wouldn't hook up with her.

After a few minutes he gets distracted by another guy he knows and we end up switching girls we're talking to. Here's the gist of my conversation with HBredhead:

Me: so you're an education major?
Her: yeah, what are you?
Me: sociology
Her: the last guy I met who was a sociology major was a communist
Me: well I'm actually a facist
Her: well that's not so bad...
Me: I'm actually going to take over a country and become a dictator
Her: is that right?
Me: Yeah, I'll even let you run the education system if you want

We have fun but I really don't talk to her for long and she doesn't seem particularly interested. HBglasses on the other hand, does. I tease her about her obligations to the guy who keeps buying them drinks and some other stuff. Not really interested though.

Not much later my friend and I take off and go to a few other bars. I run into some people I know, including HB8zoolander, but there's really not anyone to approach. Sort of layed back group-of-friends bars with no hot girls.

Around 1:00 I finally get my friend to get to the one solid bar in the area. Actually it's more of a club, the only one around. The girls are a step up from the other places but don't seem to be as hot as usual. No 9s, tons of 5s and 6s. My friend seems perfectly content with having a lower key night and doing more tomorrow when we have better options for bars, but I have that nagging feeling that I really need to do SOMETHING. We sit at a table and talk for a few minutes but I feel like I need to get something done.

There's only one really hot girl there. She's an 8.5 for so; maybe an 8 - it's dark. Unquestionably very hot though. I only caught a glimpse of her before we sat down but I tell my friend (who's ready to leave) that we should just walk though a few more times and see if we see anything. I see the hot girl dancing, wait 30 seconds or so then go grab her.

Me: *claw* hey, who are you?
Her: I'm good, you?
Me: *grab her head and pull her in* no, WHO are you?
Her: who are you?
Me: I'm matt
Her: ______
Me: ____?
Her: no, _____ (I didn't think of this at the time, but this was my dog's name. Oh the opportunties you miss!)
Me: oh like ______
Her: yeah

At this point in the interaction my physical game is very good, actually to the point where I'm impressed with myself, and the set is WIDE open. However, again I don't really know where to go from here so I just ask her to dance, and she says she's dancing with her friend. There's no doubt in my mind that I was in, but I just didn't really know where to go with it. Could have gone back in but didn't...still didn't know what to say/do.

It's pretty much closing  time so we take off. My friend tells me about how he want to approach her friend but didn't. That would have made things a lot easier for me. I drop my friend off and get pulled over by a cop about 3 AM for going like 12 over. I've been pulled over like half a dozen times and always talked my way out of a ticket. Seems like my perfect driving record is self-perpetuating lol.

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1. Despite stalling out and not really doing that much, I actually feel pretty good. Again I'm reminded that I don't have to drink to approach girls or talk to them, I just have to do it, and my momentum inevitably builds. I don't know if I've ever  gone in that physical/direct in a loud place without drinking. It's definitely doable.

2. From talking with my friend and reading some exerpts from The Game (I'm gonna read the full thing when he has it over winter break) I feel a little differently about this all than I have before. In a good way. See, it doesn't have to be some big stressful thing, I just have to figure out what works. Like with that last set, I didn't really know what to do, but if I go out and grab 10 different girls like that, boom, I'll have a much better idea. And the next time there's a really cute girl who reacts reasonably well (most seem to) it'll be no problem.

It doesn't have to be some big stressful thing. I've just gotta figure out what works and what doesn't.

Cheers guys, hope everyone's having a good thanksgiving break
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Well, haven't been out on a Tuesday for a while. I'm going to go out Thur-Sat from now on though, hopefully some tues/weds also.

Anyway, I head out with my roommate around 11. Most of the bars are pretty empty and/or suck. It's tuesday of dead week after all. We go to 3 or 4 and settle on one with pool tables and play for a bit. I don't feel like drinking, but my roommate has a few.

After 2 rounds of pool we head down to another bar to play darts. There's actually a decent number of people. My roommate has about 6 more drinks in the next half hour. The bartender wants to card me because he doesn't believe my roommate could drink all of it so fast by himself.

...Ok enough random BS. I recognize the waitress and she's cute. I have no idea how I remember, but it's this girl from the report last year:



Quote:
#36 - The city

As
I'm sitting watching the band with my friends, however, we all notice
the waitress. She's really cute. I think about approaching, but again I
try to wait for the perfect opportunity and my friends want to leave.
We go to another bar that's open later (it's like 1:25) and it sucks. I
tell them I'm going back to the first one for a bit. Just a few minutes
left when I get there. I see the waitress picking up cups when I get
back and go over and tap her.

Me: hey, what's your name?
HB8: _____
Me: I'm matt. *smirK*
Me: I just think you're kinda cute so I want to meet you
HB8: *smiles*
Me: is that wierd?
HB8: haha no
Me: when do you get off?
HB8: well it closes at 1:40 but I'm here until 2:30
Me:
well I guess I can't stick around here lol, my friends are at a
bar a few blocks away so I'll probably be there I guess
HB8: where are they?? (almost like she's interested in stopping by later)
Me: at a bar a few blocks down the road
HB8: oh

She smiles and walks by me and gets back to work. It's about 10 minutes to closing so I decide
to hang around until lights on to talk to her again. I sit down in the
other part of the bar and just wait around. I feel the social pressure to look like I'm doing something, but I decide
I don't care. After a minute or two HB8 chases a customer over right
next to me to get him to sign a reciept or something. I look up at her
and smile. She smiles back and scruffs my hair up a little
with her hand - not sexually, but not really playfully either.

The bar closes and I make
my way to the back of the eating area to talk to her. Bouncers tell me
to leave and I tell them just a sec. They give me weird looks. I make
my way over to her again.

Me: hey, I guess they're kicking everyone out. so you're here until 2:30?
Her: yeah
Me: well, I can't stick around. you wanna give me your number?
Her: haha I don't know you
Me: well I didn't have time to get to know you, you were busy
Her: well I guess you'll have to come in again then
Me: I probably won't, I don't live around here.

I feel the bouncer pressure and leave.


When we're getting close to leaving I walk over to her when she's at the front counter.

Me: did you used to work at a bar in [big city an hour and a half away]? you look really familiar.
Her: yeah, I saw you and thought you looked really familiar too. I used to work at _____
Me: ah, yeah I went there a few times with my friends. I think I tried to pick you up haha
Her: Oh haha. blah blah blah blah

We talk for a few minutes but I can't stay because she's at work and my roommate is stumbling around and I have to get him home. I don't go for the number because it sort of felt weird after reminding her how I tried to pick her up last time we met. I'll get it next time though. Or maybe if she's off earlier I'll just have her meet me for drinks. Couldn't really tell exactly how interested she was. Sometimes it's hard to tell when people are really friendly.

We stop by one more bar on our way back and my friend gets his 7th or 8th drink...then informs me that he drank a 6 pack before we left...

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1. Funny, it's a small world. It's actually kind of cool how if you know enough people you'll end up running into people everywhere, even though there's like 10 million people in the state.

2. I'm kinda bad at indirect. I feel like sometimes I have trouble getting girls laughing early and creating a fun vibe. Maybe it's because I usually just go in with "Hi, I'm Matt" or "who are you?", but it could also be just nervousness. I have trouble getting myself to do ridiculous openers that might get a laugh.

Anyway, cheers.
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Met the last cute girl in my classes today (HB8). I could only show up for the first 5 minutes so I had her turn in my paper at the end. I've actually talked to her a few times just waiting out in the lobby but we'd never actually met. Probably can't make anything happen this quarter because she's sits with HB9lawyer every day but I'll see her around.

On the bright side, I'm hanging out with HB9lawyer a bit which has been fun. Honestly I'm not really sure it's gonna go anywhere but whatever.

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1. All hot girls in classes met: CHECK.
2. Having sex with them: FAIL

Cheers
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