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January 22nd, 2017
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Dr Destruction

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SexyMachine wrote:
Tiger Woods got his ass kicked and lost $500 million dollars to his ex wife, all because of texting rookie mistake.  And, this was before snapchat and other sexting tools.  Turn the phone off or put it on silent, check it every few minutes when the girl's not looking.  

Even if the girl is cool to open lifestyle, they don't want that kind of bs thrown at their face.  


Man Tiger shoulda been up on these field reports lmao. Honestly nosy ass females can mind their own business, I got that toaster oven "ding" on my phone. Fresh off the oven.
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Matt281

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 Just went through and fixed all my txting/facebook/snapchat shit. I'm a regular pro polygamist now :)

Thursday

Kinda got my mind blown tonight. Some of the experiences I'm having lately... just feels like I'm hitting a new level with this stuff.

I txt the stunner girl from last week and she comes over again and we grab a drink. It's funny because while my "girlfriend" is basically exactly what I want in a girl personality wise, this girl is exactly what I want in a girl sexually. I literally get a boner just hugging this girl. 

We head back to my place, joke around a little and start making out. I'm realizing this more on SNLs too... just chill. No need to push it hard. Just relax, lead and assume it'll happen.

Her: so... it's shark week...

Takes a minute to register in my brain. She's on the rag. 

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She's supposed to go hang out and drink with her friends, but she sticks around and we literally roll around on the floor for a couple hours. 

It's fun. She's fun to hang out with once she loosens up a little.

Around midnight we end up getting hot and heavy and I strip down and pull her over to the bed. She has this ridiculous jean shorts/leotard/tights combo that's beyond impossible to get off. She might as well have a chastity belt. 

She gives me handjob for a bit, then finally moves down and starts blowing me. She's so so so so good. 

2 minutes in I'm reading to come and she pulls her mouth off and keeps going with her hand. She points my dick way up and I COME ON MY OWN FUCKING FACE. LOL. So bad.

I almost forget about how good it feels because I'm laughing so hard. I make a bee line for the shower. I have cum all fucking over me.

#notaproudmoment 

Funny enough, she feels insecure about all this because she "messed up". I'm surprised. Girls this hot don't normally act like this.

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It gets weirder. Read on.

As she's getting ready to leave, she stops me.

Her: so... I've been meaning to ask you this... umm... like, I dunno I can't figure you out at all. Like usually when I hang out with guys they really want to be my boyfriend and they start acting really weird and I'm the one running away.... but now I'm acting like that. I just don't know what to think... like, ummm what is this [between us]?

I tell her that I don't really have any expectations and I usually just like to let things unfold naturally. "Let's just keep hanging out and see where it goes". 

This settles her a bit, but she goes on to say how she never has sex with guys this quickly and hints that she's always worried that I might never talk to her again because I'm so relaxed about everything. I tell her I like her and I want to see her again. She feels better. She says now she feels stupid for bringing this up, because that's what guys do to her, and she never talks to them again. 

This is somewhat hard to get down in writing, but you get the idea. Keep in mind that this girl is probably the hottest girl I've ever fucked. I literally want to just stay in bed all day and fuck her over and over again. She's got a million guys that are in love with her... and she's getting needy and insecure in week two...

Crazy. 

Anyway, big relearned lesson about being "that guy". Even these girls with hundreds of guys ready to lick the ground behind their feet will fall hard for that one guy who's really on top of his shit. 

Abundance is a hell of a drug.

:)
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 ^That was pretty mindblowing to read. Just goes to show that you've really put in the time and effort to become the guy the hot woman really wants rather than being similar to the (chasers) guy who does his best to win the woman over. Something like that seems so unreal to someone like me, but whenever I read your posts, it doesn't seem so impossible. Everytime I read your journal, it just seems like you're constantly breaking down new walls and constantly getting better. Pretty damn awesome, Matt!
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This sounds almost exactly like the story Owen tells in his two hours from chaos emerges order video.
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 I can't relate to you Matt281, cuz I never had that "hottest girl" in my life. I don't know what it's like to be in the situation. Based on your FR, you seem like you are doing really good, relaxed, n chill.
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 Friday

So apparently my "girlfriend" is now NOT cool with me fucking other girls. That was quick.

Basically I went over there to her place to hang out for an hour, which turned into a ~6 hour talk. Apparently at first it wasn't clear to her exactly what I was doing, then when she got a better idea of what's happened already she got pretty upset. It was really weird because she's been cool with it 2 or 3 different times, then flipped back an hour or two later. I thought I sorted it out for good this morning, but then she talked to her friends/family and it got bad again.

Anyway, we've been txting all day. I don't really know what's going to happen. Definitely learning a lot. I'm starting to lean towards the "be really fucking clear up front" method. It's hard to know how to handle this kind of stuff. 

We're kind of at a standstill right now, because she REALLY doesn't want to lose me, but she's also not down okay with me fucking other girls. And I'm obviously not cool with being monogomous right now. 

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I'm not really sure how to feel. I feel like I should be more upset than I am. Maybe it just hasn't hit me yet that this could all completely end. I feel like I should really bothered by this, cause she's a fucking badass girl and I like spending time with her a lot. But I'm kind of okay right now. 

So yeah, not really sure where this is all gonna go. I know that if I go monogomous I'm gonna get frustrated like 3 weeks in so that's not an option right. But I may lose her if I don't. I don't really think there's an inbetween here. 

Guess I'm trying to have my cake and eat it too. Doesn't really work for me to do anything else at the moment though.

Cheers
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LULzzz, this girl's got youby the ballz dude, laugh at yourself, ridicule yourself.  Respect to the girl, she's playing her girl game well.  Didn't you write few months ago, how you couldn't get into a relationship with this girl because she wasn't hot enough?  Now, she's your "girlfriend"? Worst part, you spent 6 hours "talking" to this chick and you didn't even get laid?  First, she's got you hooked and spending all the time with her.  Then, she has the "talk" and makes you call her your "girlfriend".  Now, she's demanding you go "exclusive".  What the fuck do you think will happen next?  This chick has you on a compliance ladder and she's doing a great job of getting you to comply to her bullshit.

I don't like giving "advice" because that's not my thing.  But, as your DAD, what the fuck are you doing?  How can you take this shit seriously?  You're just starting to get consistent and fucking hotter girls and you're gonna give that up because why?  It's your life dude, do what you want.  But, I'll say this, if there's even a sliver of doubt about this chick, and you've got enough game down to pull hotter girls, what the fuck are you doing taking this shit seriously?

You're a cool dude, but I will laugh at your face and ridicule your ass if you give into this chick's demands and fall into her compliance ladder.  I'll chalk it up to another casualty in "the game".  And, I'll laugh even harder when I see you back out in the field couple of years from now, all broken up and shit.  

Rant over.  I think you'll make the "right" decision.

P. S. 

The biggest lesson is NEVER say shit to girls about your business.  She doesn't need to know. Let girls dwell in their fantasy about the kind of relationship they have. And, disregard the "talk". Nothing good ever comes from having the "talk".
Matt281 wrote:
 Friday

So apparently my "girlfriend" is now NOT cool with me fucking other girls. That was quick.

Basically I went over there to her place to hang out for an hour, which turned into a ~6 hour talk. Apparently at first it wasn't clear to her exactly what I was doing, then when she got a better idea of what's happened already she got pretty upset. It was really weird because she's been cool with it 2 or 3 different times, then flipped back an hour or two later. I thought I sorted it out for good this morning, but then she talked to her friends/family and it got bad again.

Anyway, we've been txting all day. I don't really know what's going to happen. Definitely learning a lot. I'm starting to lean towards the "be really fucking clear up front" method. It's hard to know how to handle this kind of stuff. 

We're kind of at a standstill right now, because she REALLY doesn't want to lose me, but she's also not down okay with me fucking other girls. And I'm obviously not cool with being monogomous right now. 

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I'm not really sure how to feel. I feel like I should be more upset than I am. Maybe it just hasn't hit me yet that this could all completely end. I feel like I should really bothered by this, cause she's a fucking badass girl and I like spending time with her a lot. But I'm kind of okay right now. 

So yeah, not really sure where this is all gonna go. I know that if I go monogomous I'm gonna get frustrated like 3 weeks in so that's not an option right. But I may lose her if I don't. I don't really think there's an inbetween here. 

Guess I'm trying to have my cake and eat it too. Doesn't really work for me to do anything else at the moment though.

Cheers

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SexyMachine wrote:
LULzzz, this girl's got youby the ballz dude, laugh at yourself, ridicule yourself.  Respect to the girl, she's playing her girl game well.  Didn't you write few months ago, how you couldn't get into a relationship with this girl because she wasn't hot enough?  Now, she's your "girlfriend"? Worst part, you spent 6 hours "talking" to this chick and you didn't even get laid?  First, she's got you hooked and spending all the time with her.  Then, she has the "talk" and makes you call her your "girlfriend".  Now, she's demanding you go "exclusive".  What the fuck do you think will happen next?  This chick has you on a compliance ladder and she's doing a great job of getting you to comply to her bullshit.

I don't like giving "advice" because that's not my thing.  But, as your DAD, what the fuck are you doing?  How can you take this shit seriously?  You're just starting to get consistent and fucking hotter girls and you're gonna give that up because why?  It's your life dude, do what you want.  But, I'll say this, if there's even a sliver of doubt about this chick, and you've got enough game down to pull hotter girls, what the fuck are you doing taking this shit seriously?

You're a cool dude, but I will laugh at your face and ridicule your ass if you give into this chick's demands and fall into her compliance ladder.  I'll chalk it up to another casualty in "the game".  And, I'll laugh even harder when I see you back out in the field couple of years from now, all broken up and shit.  

Rant over.  I think you'll make the "right" decision.

P. S. 

The biggest lesson is NEVER say shit to girls about your business.  She doesn't need to know. Let girls dwell in their fantasy about the kind of relationship they have. And, disregard the "talk". Nothing good ever comes from having the "talk".
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She has me by the balls? No, who has me by the balls is the stunner who was cupping them while I came into her mouth last night. 

I get it man. This community is full of guys who get jaded with pickup and just want something to cling onto. Believe me, I've seen it a million times. But this isn't at all what's going on here. I LIKE this girl as a PERSON. Not enough to drop the game and stop fucking other girls, but enough that I genuinely care about her and enjoy spending time with her, even outside of having sex.

I mean look at this: Worst part, you spent 6 hours "talking" to this chick and you didn't even get laid? 

Do you realize how fucked up that mindset is? I mean, to each his own I guess. But if girls are just warm holes to you, I don't think that's a good place to be. 

I care about this girl in the same way I care about my friends, and I'd sure as hell be willing to sit down for a couple hours to talk about shit with one of my good friends if it came up. Yes, even if I wasn't going to get laid. 

I'm not going to be exclusive with this girl; I think that was pretty clear from my last post. But it's still going to bother me a lot if we end it because of this. Again, it's not about the sex. For fucks sake, the girl I think about when I jack off and the girl I fucked last night ARE THE SAME GIRL. Sex is not an issue.

But this girl is a badass chick and I fucking love spending time with her. 

Maybe you can't relate. That's cool. But that's where I'm at.

Cheers
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Good for you Matt. Real alpha males decide their own destinies.
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I think about this in the exact same way. I'd encourage you to think of women as people and of men as people. This is a people game.

Nothing wrong with giving a shit about other people. Your friends, your family, you're loved ones.

I think you are buying too much into the pickup mysogyny, sexy machine. But whatever works for you. I'd just say there is a far more ...human response / way of thinking that Matt281 is articulating here really well.

Like these types of "mini discussions".
-Cat

Matt281 wrote:

SexyMachine wrote:
LULzzz, this girl's got youby the ballz dude, laugh at yourself, ridicule yourself.  Respect to the girl, she's playing her girl game well.  Didn't you write few months ago, how you couldn't get into a relationship with this girl because she wasn't hot enough?  Now, she's your "girlfriend"? Worst part, you spent 6 hours "talking" to this chick and you didn't even get laid?  First, she's got you hooked and spending all the time with her.  Then, she has the "talk" and makes you call her your "girlfriend".  Now, she's demanding you go "exclusive".  What the fuck do you think will happen next?  This chick has you on a compliance ladder and she's doing a great job of getting you to comply to her bullshit.

I don't like giving "advice" because that's not my thing.  But, as your DAD, what the fuck are you doing?  How can you take this shit seriously?  You're just starting to get consistent and fucking hotter girls and you're gonna give that up because why?  It's your life dude, do what you want.  But, I'll say this, if there's even a sliver of doubt about this chick, and you've got enough game down to pull hotter girls, what the fuck are you doing taking this shit seriously?

You're a cool dude, but I will laugh at your face and ridicule your ass if you give into this chick's demands and fall into her compliance ladder.  I'll chalk it up to another casualty in "the game".  And, I'll laugh even harder when I see you back out in the field couple of years from now, all broken up and shit.  

Rant over.  I think you'll make the "right" decision.

P. S. 

The biggest lesson is NEVER say shit to girls about your business.  She doesn't need to know. Let girls dwell in their fantasy about the kind of relationship they have. And, disregard the "talk". Nothing good ever comes from having the "talk".
Matt281 wrote:



She has me by the balls? No, who has me by the balls is the stunner who was cupping them while I came into her mouth last night. 

I get it man. This community is full of guys who get jaded with pickup and just want something to cling onto. Believe me, I've seen it a million times. But this isn't at all what's going on here. I LIKE this girl as a PERSON. Not enough to drop the game and stop fucking other girls, but enough that I genuinely care about her and enjoy spending time with her, even outside of having sex.

I mean look at this: Worst part, you spent 6 hours "talking" to this chick and you didn't even get laid? 

Do you realize how fucked up that mindset is? I mean, to each his own I guess. But if girls are just warm holes to you, I don't think that's a good place to be. 

I care about this girl in the same way I care about my friends, and I'd sure as hell be willing to sit down for a couple hours to talk about shit with one of my good friends if it came up. Yes, even if I wasn't going to get laid. 

I'm not going to be exclusive with this girl; I think that was pretty clear from my last post. But it's still going to bother me a lot if we end it because of this. Again, it's not about the sex. For fucks sake, the girl I think about when I jack off and the girl I fucked last night ARE THE SAME GIRL. Sex is not an issue.

But this girl is a badass chick and I fucking love spending time with her. 

Maybe you can't relate. That's cool. But that's where I'm at.

Cheers

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