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Saturday

Just me and Rambo tonight.

Things start pretty slow. I get stuck in my head. He rambos into some shit and I follow him in. Goes okay. I'm really becoming more aware of the 10-2 rhythm than before. Girls will respond very differently to the same approach at 10 vs 12.

Anyway, I piggy back for a few. I decide to get a beer and we wing a 2 set at a table for a while, which finally gets me warmed up well by about midnight.

I'm still just amazed by how much my game/personality fluctuates. Other people -- even my wing tonight -- seem to just always be exactly the same person all the time. I tend to fall somewhere between chode and God hahaha.

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We run into a girl I'm seeing. We spend about half an hour with them trying to pawn her friends off to Rambo. She's not that helpful.

At one point we're sitting with them and I'm winging a nearby set for Rambo with my cherish's legs draped over me. I'm talking to this other girl about spreading germs or something.

Me: I chewed on a lot of rocks as a kid. I think I have a good immune system. Let's make out... for our health ;)
Her: ummm not while you're holding onto another girl...

Hahahha. I found this funny.

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We bounce around a bit more and hit on other girls. Still not nearly enough.

Near the end we barge into a group of 3 or 4 and I isolate a cute black girl.

My game muscle is finally on and kill it. We talk about humans with tails, baby's daddy's and falling in love.

Again my luck sucks and she's leaving to go back to school the next morning. I keep trying to explain to her that I am in love with her. She apparently doesn't quite believe me.

Me: "do you believe in love at 2nd sight?"

Anyway, I can't take this anywhere because of logistics so we decide to get out. I hug her friends goodbye and kiss her. That part was actually kind of interesting, because it totally wasn't appropriate, but why not? Kind of felt like an instant makeout feels. They just go along with it cause it's your show.

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We bounce and find the girl I'm seeing at around 2. I pull her home and we have a lot of orgasms.

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1. Haven't been going nearly hard enough lately. I kind of feel like a concert pianist who hasn't practiced in a month. I've got that core muscle memory that never really goes away, but all the stuff that can be rusty, is. What seems to happen to me is that that core is always getting better; in other words, I'm always more and more solid on the pull, and always kill it harder and harder when I "catch fire" or smell blood, so to speak. But the part you can lose and regain really seems to ebb and flow. I'm not hitting it up nearly as hard and I'm having more trouble getting in the swing of things on a given night.

It's actually a weird feeling. It's like the athlete who remembers running a 4.1 second 40, then breaks an ankle and has to rebuild and relearn everything. I still remember all the peak points -- actually last night I saw a 9.5/10 girl who I'd made out with, then almost got in a fight with her boyfriend a while back -- and it's weird knowing I can do that but feeling stifled, or at least out of practice.

I keep expecting that momentum to stick, thinking that maybe I'm over getting AA or getting stuck in my head, but it's always back and forth. In this case, that core is something I am, but that momentum is still something I do. I think once I really internalize that, I'll finally be able to maintain a consistent process.

Cheers
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Monday

Out for about an hour with Knoxville. Trying to be more process oriented.

Funny thing about this journal is I'll oscillate between these crazy pulls on some nights, and hammering it out with the most barebone fundamentals the next.

I think that's why I'll eventually have out of this world success with this. No matter what level of success I reach, I know I'm never above the process.

Cheers
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Friday

Tonight was great.

None of the usual crew is going out, so I head out with my civilian friend, who has been out with us enough times that he knows exactly what's up.

Early on I notice myself choding and I make myself approach 2 fat girls. This is actually quite good for me, because approaching unnactractive girls is much harder for me than hot ones. I make the excuse to leave after about 2 minutes.

Upstairs I open a cute brunette and it hooks really hard. We go outside and I get her number before she has to leave with her friends. I almost wasn't ready for this one to hook as hard as it did -- if I had been on I probably could have done an instant makeout and worked towards the pull. Still good though -- I am essentially solo.

Open a cutie walking up the stairs. She's with her mom.

We go to another bar and I open a hot blonde girl in a big mixed group. Actually goes quite well at first, but I have 2 guys and a girl trying to cockblock me. Honestly it was more that they were making my girl feel uncomfortable because they obviously weren't happy with me picking her up. I just needed to be a step ahead of things to handle the cockblocking better.

I think I do one more.

A hot girl I literally haven't seen in 3 months texts me out of the blue. She's in a different part of town but it seems like she wants to hang out.

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Earlier on I'd been txting with another girl. She finally makes it out and we meet her at the main bar.

Really pretty black girl with an amazing body. God I love tiny waists + ass.

The rest of the night is pretty chill. I spend a good hour charming the fuck out of this girl and slowly but surely moving things forward.

She's with her sister and she drove, so no pull option for tonight.

We have an ongoing joke about how I didn't call her when we first met, and how she'll never forgive me etc etc.

Her: you lost a bunch cool points when you didn't call me the first time
Me: how do I get more?
Her: I can't tell you that! you've gotta figure it out for yourself!
Me: *slowly pull her an inch closer and makeout with her*
Her: You get +100 for that

lol.

She gets girly and starts holding onto me and sitting in my lap. It's closing and the sister says they have to go. It's all good :)

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1. I feel really good, which hasn't happened much the last few weekends. Honestly I think it has a lot more to do with my process than making out with a hot girl. I feel good because I did what I told myself I would. I approached when I didn't want to regardless of how I felt, and the process changed how I felt.

After last weekend I came up with a process for myself and gave myself leverage. I think this works well for me. I'm allowing for having fun and doing things naturally, but forcing myself to hit it hard if I'm being a lil' bitch.

Again, I feel great right now. And I think it's just because I did what I needed to do.

Cheers :)
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Saturday

Cat's Bday party. He's been MIA for a bit -- was really good to kick it again.

I had initially thought we'd all hang out for an hour or two then go out, but we pretty much spend the whole night drinking with around 15 people in his apartment. It was a really nice change of pace. Most of the people there are funny as hell and way too smart for their own good hahaha.

Nevertheless -- true to my nature -- I end up hitting on one of his hot friends (sorry dude I couldn't help it :p). Tall, really pretty, half-mexican girl.

We joke around for a bit, then around 1:00 I rally people and most of us go out. We go to a cool spot just down the street with dancing upstairs.

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Cat's locked in with his girl. They're cute together.

I spend the rest of the night with his hot friend. We chat a bit more, then go dance a bit at the end. Was fun.

We leave at lights on and swap numbers.

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1. Really nice to just have a relaxed night with friends. Sometimes I forget how much I enjoy that stuff.

Sunday

Coffee date with this girl I haven't seen in like 3 months. Goes really well but kinda feels like starting over from scratch.

We catch up for about 2 hours and then part ways. Hopefully we can set something up at night near my place so I can pull her next time.

Cheers :)
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Thursday
Date with the main girl from Friday.

We meet up around 9 at a cool little alley bar a few blocks from my place.

Things go well. Dates have felt so much easier lately.

We talk for a good 2 hours, escalate a little, then start walking back towards my place. This is another one of those where I totally had no expectation of pulling -- sometimes even I'm amazed I can pull this off with girls who seem conservative.

Get in and start making out. She immediately says something like she just wants to kiss tonight. I just roll with it.

I press her up against the wall and we go slowly. The easiest way to tell whether a girl is potentially down is how into making out she gets. In my experience, if a girl will make out more intensely (when you two are alone), she's potentially DTF if you play it well enough. If she's really hesitant and shy about making out -- well let's just say you've probably gotta have better endgame than me :)

This girl gives me enough for me to give it a shot.

I pull her over to the bed and we lay down and dry hump a little bit.

...and by a little bit I mean 3 hours...

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I pass shit tests, try to stay aloof, play stop and go, etc. I guess this comes from pulling same night/on the first date, but I'm honestly amazed at how tough LMR can be. Maybe it's just that I really am getting a lot of girls who literally "never do this", but man, you can play it REALLY solid and still lose it.

We alternate between me fingering her and her grabbing my dick, to full regression. It's 5 steps forward, 5 steps back.

She has quite a body. Very pretty black girl with a tiny waist and of course, ass.

A couple times we get really close, as in "do you have a condom?" close.

Finally like 3 hours in I'm really just having trouble still being into it. I'm literally just kind of tired and honestly... bored...

Around 3 we call it quits and I walk her back to her car. She wants me to visit her like 45 mins away lol.

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1. Interesting how I felt after this one. I'm almost less interested after the giant LMR fest than I was earlier on. Just seems like so much trouble to have sex. It's funny finding myself thinking that, because this was very similar to the date I had with the stunner a few weeks ago (girl from tonight is like 8/10). But rather than feeling estatic from pulling a hottie when I didn't know if I could, I felt... almost a little annoyed. Like, I just had another girl come over the night before, blow me, and go to bed. I don't NEED sex that bad. I don't know, maybe I'm just tired, but after 3 hours of LMR is just feels like I'd rather eat something tasty and go to sleep.

2. Also interesting comparing this one to the last one in terms of how I feel about the girl. As I said, the dates were very, very similar, but a few weeks ago I was like "omg omg best date ever", and this time I'm like "meh". I wonder if that sheds any light on how the girls might feel. Maybe really hot girls who you almost fuck sometimes have a similar feeling to how I did tonight.

3. On the bright side, I had another hands on (very hands on hahaha) 3-hour seminar in LMR tonight. It's quite the interesting balance. Aside from passing shit tests, you have to be detached and let her chase a little, but the second she's actually down you have to snap into gear and make it fucking happen. Recognizing those little fluctuations is the trick.

Cheers <3
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Friday

Can't really remember. Went out. Spent a lot of time talking to people I know. Spent an hour talking to this girl who's flaked me like 5 times. She flaked me again, lol.

Saturday

Went downtown for the first time in quite a while.

Had kind of a tough start. Sat down with this hot Asian girl who was probably DTF. Her frame was stronger than mine so I lost it.

I did like 10 more. Still noticing I give too much of a fuck what happens when a set goes well. Like I'll be worrying about hitting up girls in front of a girl I just had a good interaction with, then go to go back in and she'll be making out with some other dude. Need to worry more about having fun and just see how things unfold.

Near the end I run into a cute co-worker of mine. We dance, get nose to nose and almost end up making out, but I decide it would be a bad idea.

Monday

Date with a cutie -- far from my house. Hopefully fuck her next time.

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1. Harem is going well. Feeling unmotivated to go out. Almost feeling like I need more "me time" as it is. Hard to read and shit with girls over.

2. Feeling like I either need to make game a #1 priority of just relax and take it easy with it. Honestly leaning towards the latter for now. I think I might just need to chill out, go out on weekends, fuck my girls and focus on other things for a little bit. Maybe in a few months I'll be motivated to jump in head first again and really push to the next level.... inspiring, I know, hahaha.

Cheers
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Friday

lol night.

Out with Knoxville, Brother and Big.

Literally the first girl I talk to is DTF. She's out with a big group on a party bus and she's basically the only single one (other girls brought they're boyfriends). They're all getting ready to go back and she invites me along, so I figure this is a done deal.

She likes me, everyone else is getting fucked or vomiting over the toilet, and she's the odd one out.

I get on the bus with them and head across town. Adventure right?

Anyway, we get there, she flips the switch and randomly decides that she no longer wants to get fucked, and they go into the house frat house and close the door on me.

LOL

Funny how I still try not to be a douchebag when girls will pull shit like this haha. I care way too much.

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Anyway, $15 and 15 minutes later, I'm back over on the hill.

It's still only a little after midnight. I hit up more girls and have some decent interactions, but no one who seems down.

I run into the stunner girl who I had the date with a few weeks ago. We talk for a minute -- it's a little bit awkward.

I kind of get thrown in my head afterwards. Really had an amazing time with this girl and she just randomly stopped txting back.

Nevertheless, I make myself do a couple and get back in the swing of things. Still nothing too solid.

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The night wraps up and we're walking back when we see a group of 3 girls and decide to go back and get them.

Mine is a hot dirty blonde girl... who proceeds to tell me how much she loves jesus and that she wants to be a missionary.

Goddamnit.

lol.

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1. There's really no point in getting negative about girls pulling dumb shit. Live and learn.

2. Results have been, let's say, less than optimal lately. My sex life is as good as ever, but nights out have been surprisingly unsuccessful for the most part. Kind of wondering what I'm supposed to learn here. I know that I have a few sticking points, but there are people with a lot more issues that pull way more than I have been.

I feel like a lot of the big sticking points I had a year ago (running out of things to say, dates, pulling) have completely disappeared, but I'm not getting the easy ones like I used to.

It's weird having the mindset I have now, where I keep feeling like getting frustrated, but catching myself and realizing there's no point. Just not quite sure why results haven't been up to par lately, or what the next step is.

Cheers :)
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Saturday

On my way back to visit my parents for the weekend, I stopped by to see the cute black girl I've been hanging out with (her house is on the way). We grabbed food and then went back to her place.
Tried for sex and got bludgeoned by the LMR club again.

Actually got kind of irritated, but played nice. She wanted me to stay over, in which case I might have eventually got it in, but I wanted to see my parents.

Learned a really valuable lesson through something she said though. She asked me why I was so serious when we were getting hot and heavy. Naturally I got a bit more playful with it, but I think the really important lesson here is I HAVE TO BE ENJOYING THIS. That's really big for me.

These days making out with and fingering a girl just seem like obstacles/checkpoints on the way to sex. I need to remember that fooling around with a hot girl is FUN, and it's worth doing within itself.
Really important imo.

Nevertheless, I was a bit annoyed after getting LMR'd twice. Staying level headed, but I'm gonna drop this girl if it happens again. No hard feelings -- just not a good use of my time.

*edit*

Happened again last night lol. She called me from downtown at 11 and asked me to pick her up. We joked around for a little bit, went back to my place and had another 2 hour playful makeout/fingering session with clothes mostly on.

At the end of the night I told her that it seems like we have really different views about sex, and that we should just be friends. Couldn't tell how upset she was -- she hid it pretty well. Oh well, it was the right thing to do. Boundaries.

Cheers
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Wednesday

#1 cherish comes over. This girl is really cool -- I guess it's kind of fucked up that the only reason I wouldn't date her seriously is that she's like 7.5/10. Pretty superficial but w/e.

Probably never consistently had as much fun in bed as with this girl.

She goes down on me, swallows my load, KEEPS GOING until I'm really turned on again, then swallows my jizz AGAIN. Jesus, so good.

Anyway, life is good.

Cheers
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 Friday

Out with Rambo and Brother. Hit it up. Don't remember most of what happened, despite being sober.

Got two numbers from really hot girls. One was a 30 seconds interaction where she told me to take her number right away, not solid though. Should have stayed in longer to solidify it after the number.

Other one was at the very end of the night. Two really hot college girls but we had trouble getting the "bubble of love" thing going because other guys we knew kept coming in and standing around. For most of the time it wasn't even clear who was hitting on who. Eventually though, Brother and I make it a bit more clear that these are "our girls" and the other guys take off. Invite them to an "afterparty" but no go -- actually almost worked, which was surprising cause it was a total longshot. 

We swap numbers at the end. Mine turned out to be solid, Brother's wasn't.

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1. Game really is a wake up call. When you're not going out that much -- even for like 5 days -- you start to get these ideas that if you just focus on your lifestyle, the game will take care of itself. Wishful thinking. The minute you step out and start hitting it up, you realize none of that shit matters.


Saturday

Out with Rambo, Adjunkie and Brother. Told myself I was gonna focus on having fun tonight, but ended up hitting it up really hard.

Adjunkie and I decide the opposite of the "anime eyes" reaction is the "cat face" reaction. We have a competition to see who can get more of those looks:

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Anyway, I had a lot of fun. I think it's really important not to get caught up in pickup being a misson. Nevertheless, results weren't all that great, which is fine. 

At the very end of the night Brother and I both see a stunner at the same time -- probably the hottest girl I'd seen all weekend and we both approach at the same time and fight it out. Was a lot of fun. Turned out she had a boyfriend who was with her, but fun/motivating for sure.

It's definitely true that, while I sometimes have trouble getting myself to approach, when I see a girl who is ridiculously hot, I almost always make a bee line for her. I think that's good.

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1. Really got reminded of how bad I want this. Big thing for tonight that Brother and I talked about during debrief was what it takes to push to the next level. I've kinda been on a plateau lately. Definitely a pretty comfortable, organsm-friendly plateau, but still a plateau. I need to break through to the next level.

That's going to require more effort. What I'm doing now is essentially maintenance. To push to the next level -- really fucking dime pieces and pulling more -- I need to step it up. An appropriate quote would be this one:

"What got you here won't get you there".

Cheers
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