THE FORUMS

October 16th, 2017
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Turlast

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Thanks a lot for the reply, Matt. I checked out the response you had to the guys PM, and I must say...the advice was on the money. It really resonated with me. I've always had a feeling you couldn't just go out constantly and expect things to happen on its own. You definitely have to be aware of what and how you're doing things in order to keep moving forward. But you're right...you definitely have to start somewhere. I remember trying to get into a 30 day approach exercise a good while back, but that didn't really last long. Like you said, you have to go at your own pace and not focus on the amount of women others are approaching.

The amazing nights I've read about in your journal just seem so far out of my reality at this point, but it just motivates me to start putting the time in and making the changes I need to make in not only this area, but quite a few others in my life as well. Thanks again for the reply, Matt. Keep up the good work!
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Matt281

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Good luck man :)
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Friday

I get out around 11, go meet up with Sunshine. He's at the same bar where I'm supposed to meet up with the girl I went on a date with Saturday.

I see her and lock in. It's really really solid, but she's out with like 9 other girls. I hit it off with her for about 5 minutes, then take off to go hit up other girls at other bars under the pretense meeting up later in the night. Really what I wanted is just to have another meeting with her, since we're going on day 3 tomorrow, I think she'll be more open to having sex now.

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We bounce around a bit. I follow Knoxville into a few and do a couple of my own.

I grab some Ukrainian girl who's walking up the stairs with a guy and stop her for about 2 minutes. I kill it, but it's not quite enough.

After that I do a great job maintaining a positive state and good emotions, but nothing hooks too hard. Knoxville and I spend some time winging two hot girls sitting down. We stay in for about 15 minutes but they are kind of boring.

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We bounce to another bar.

I get eye contact from a hot girl in a group that's walking out the door, and I tap her and stop her.

Me: "are you leaving?"
Her: "yeah we have to go"
Me: "stay for 10 seconds"
Her: "to do what?"
Me: "talk...or something along those lines ;)

We only get to vibe for about 30 seconds before one of the guys comes back to get her. She gives me her number and I text her.

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Back to the original bar. My girl from earlier left just before we got there. I had kind of wanted her to be there so I could "chill" for the rest of the night. I've felt like this a bit in general later, where I just feel like "opting out" and going the easy route. Having a girlfriend seems so simple, even though logically I know there's a whole nother set of issues that comes along with that -- sometimes just feeling like I want to relax.
Funny enough, definitely wouldn't have experience this though ;)



This was perhaps the best set I've ever done.

Brother is hitting up a girl, and her friend is a total stunner. Tall, thin, gorgeous face, and all dressed up.

I go in and introduce myself and she gives me a nasty look.

I keep talking.

She won't tell me her name and will barely respond.

I plow.

She says I'm aggressive and drunk.

I tell her I'm sober.

She starts to turn around a little and her friend leaves Brother and grabs my girls hand to pull her away.

She stays.

I keep going and she slowly but surely starts to open up. She shit tests me and throws some other stuff at me. I pass. I felt like I had to use everything I've learned over years of being in the game... all coming together in this one set.

She "flips", and she starts to really like me.

We dance around, in a ridiculous manner at first, then a little bit more sexual. She turns all girly and starts telling me I'm really funny, even when I'm not being at all funny. She can't believe I'm sober. I eventually convince her that I am. I feel like she needed that to justify being picked up.

This girl is fucking gorgeous. Total stunner.

After about 15 minutes her friends finally come back to take her away. I meet them. They want to leave.

My girl: "I just got a new phone I don't know my number. Here's my card though"
Me: "give me you phone"

I call myself with her phone and she puts in her first and last name. We hug and they leave.

That's about all for tonight.

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1. Like I said, the last one was probably the best set I've ever done. I honestly don't think one in 1000 guys could have pulled that off given the way it started. It's just that glimpse of what's possible with this stuff, how good you can really be. It feels sooo good to completely "flip" a girl, especially a complete stunner like that.

2. What I really want is consistency with stuff like that. It feels amazing to pull that off, but I get outcome dependence almost immediately after because I pushed so far beyond what's normal for me. I can't replicate that. The most important thing is the experience though. Once you know you can pull something like that off, all that's left to do is do it more often.

3. Fuuuuucckkk can't even describe how good that feels. It's literally seeing the physical manifestation of years of work in the game and personal development. So happy right now =)



Cheers
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Saturday

Funny night lol.

Around 8 I meet up for day 3 with the girl I went out with last Saturday. I have her meet me at the bar next to my house, we grab drinks, talk for an hour and a half and then I pull her back to my house.

Start making out, but her sister, who drove her (wtf) is texting her. I know I don't have all that much time, but I have to take it pretty slow with her. I take her jacket off and my shirt off, and get her pressed against the wall halfway to the bed.

Her: "I think you're underestimating how conservative I am... I was surprised when you kissed me on the first date"

lol.

So you can guess where this goes. I keep escalating slowly, but her sister calls her 10 minutes later and she has to go.

This girl's a cutie but I'm not sure if I want to take this to day5 or something, lol.

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I head out and meet up with the guys around 12.

I run into SexyMachine in the basement lounge, and he opens a hottie walking by. She almost immediately just transfers over to me, which I feel kinda bad about because we were just saying some stuff about how game >>> looks/age etc, but then I totally got a freebie here.

Anyway, I charm her socks off and get her number a little later, but she puts it in wrong.

I don't do too much else. It was really hard for me to get the ball rolling when I didn't get out until midnight. I think I do a couple.

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At 2:00 we're standing outside of a bar and this cute girl who I've hit on ~10 different times (and got her number like 5) comes out.

She's super shy and perhaps insecure, but sweet and very hot.

I yell at her and she comes and hugs me, and I spit some game for second.

She asks me to walk with her to her car (she's got 2 girlfriends that she drove with).

We get about a block ahead of them by the time we get to the car, we stop, and -- incredibly shy girl that she is -- grabs me and kisses me out of nowhere.

Hahaha I love this shit.

Her friends catch up and they go home.

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Sunday I went home. I'd texted with the stunner from Friday a little bit on Sat, but still feeling super outcome dependent and wondering about what to text. It's so funny, because with the other 3 or 4 girls I'm seeing I put about as much thought into it as I would texting one of my friends.

Sure enough however, she texts ME. I'm charming (of course), and make plans to grab a drink a the bar next to my place.

Mmmmm, I am already imagining railing this girl :)

Super happy

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1. It'll be interesting to see what happens with the girl from earlier on Sat. I've never blown out from escalating too hard on a date, but you never know.

2. It almost seems inevitable to get a little neverous about girls who are hotter than you're used to. That's okay though. Of course I get a bit outcome dependent, but the important thing to remember is that regardless of what happens with the stunner girl from Friday, I'm still me. I'm still the guy who made lead into gold and picked her up. Whatever happens, I'm still me and I'm still exactly where I'm at... and that's a good place to be :)

Cheers
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Fortunato

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Girls are so fascinating!
Matt281 wrote:


We get about a block ahead of them by the time we get to the car, we stop, and -- incredibly shy girl that she is -- grabs me and kisses me out of nowhere.

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Matt281

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Txt from stunner before our date:

"Hey so I just got home from work and I'm super tired and still have things I need to do for tomorrow. Can we reschedule? I promise it's not cause I don't wanna go, I just need to get caught up."

One thing I've noticed is that my motivation seems be completely tied to whether there are currently any sources of frustration in my life. When things are going really well, I basically feel no need to do anything. When I'm frustrated with something, I feel like I want to dive back in head first.

This phenomenon is often related to my dating life, but sometimes other things. Again, I oscillate between barely even thinking about personal development/success, to the complete opposite end of the spectrum based on this kind of stuff. Totally weird.

I think the problem here is two fold. The first part is that I have virtually no motivation to change when things are going really well. The second is that I'll completely flip the switch based on something external to myself and feel like I've really gotta "get my ass in gear".

The key here is to have an internal source of motivation. I get that. But taking that from in intellectual understanding to internalizing and living it, is quite different. That's the challenge.

Cheers
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Matt281

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Txt from girl:

"Omg fucking dumb assholes... it's like they don't know I could be having sex right now"

LOL.
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Txt from girl:

"Omg fucking dumb assholes... it's like they don't know I could be having sex right now"

LOL.
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Friday

Is it Friday already?

So pretty much none of the regular guys are going out. I drag my civilian friend out and meet up with Big. It's a relatively low key night because apparently it's finals week.

I don't do as many as I should, and stall out of the one or two good ones I have earlier in the night. Not really stall out, but basically just realize that it's not going anywhere after a couple minutes, and then hammer it out until they leave.

One thing the was made really clear tonight is how much setting the frame in the first 10 seconds matters. At the beginning you can take the interaction any way you want, but once you start chasing or talking "friend to friend" it's a hard hole to dig yourself out of.

Furthermore, it's crazy the variation that can happen even with the same girl. A girl I approach in one situation who doesn't like me might have ended up sucking my dick later in the night if I'd approached her 30 seconds later. It's amazing how girls' attraction is completely defined by who you are in that 15 seconds that you first meet them. That's what makes it tough for me to approach instantly sometimes, because I know the exact same girl on the exact same night could fuck me or blow me off just because of the randomness of that first minute.

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Anyway, I step outside around 12:30 and walk up to a hot brunette girl standing on the sidewalk.

I'm super calm and take my time to speak, which sets the frame for the rest of the interaction. She's out with her guy friend, which is kind of a shit show logistically but there's not a lot of hot girls out so I stick with this one.

The guy is somewhat of a cockblock at first because he keeps distracting her attention, but he ends up being really cool. We bounce to a bunch of different spots and finally settle on a dance spot around 1:15.

I give the guy a few bucks and he goes to buy us all drinks, which buys me some one on one time with my girl. We dance a bit and I kiss her. She's probably mid-late 20s but she has a bangin' little body and a really cute face.

Logistics still suck.

We both try to find girls for her guy friend but he's really picky (and to be fair, it's pretty slim pickings).

My friends go home, bars close, and I wait with them outside for a bit. I solidify things a little, swap numbers with my girl and make plans to meet up tomorrow. Fun stuff.

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1. It's funny because on one hand it's so insane to be able to just pick a girl out, spit some game, makeout with her, and get her number. On the other, I still have a long way to go. As I keep getting better and better at this, I'm more and more amazed by how huge the spectrum of having game actually is. You can be so so so so good at this ... or sooooo bad. I'd like to think I'm closer to the former, but I've still got a loooooonng way to go. The sky is definitely the limit with this stuff.

Cheers
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Saturday

Went out. Kind of a blur in some ways.

Big shows up and wants to hit on a group. I tell him no, I am hitting on this hottie sitting down. Come wing.

We do. My girl is a bit aloof and not too playful, but certainly hot and seems cool enough. We stick with this one quite a while and it goes pretty well. We swap numbers, then later in the night I come back to solidify things. I spend another 20 minutes or so with my girl and we talk about grabbing coffee on Monday, but I txt her and nothing.

I do a few more that go reasonably well. Didn't hit it up as hard as I should have.

Txt the girl from Friday. She doesn't get back to me till this morning. Same with the stunner from last Friday.

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It's about 1:00 by now so I go meet up with my cherish, who is out in the same area.

Her friends really like me for some reason. I have barely talked to them.

Anyway, I call it around 1:30 and pull her home. We fuck each others brains out. I love how hard I can make this girl come, and how she's always down for giving head.

My neighbors must fucking hate me ;)

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1. Still coming from the sellers frame too much. Well, maybe not. It's more like I'm the buyer, but I really fucking want a TV really bad and the salespeople can't always be bothered hahaha. Some of these girls just seem to genuinely not care about meeting anyone. If you're cool and you play your cards right, well then maybe they'll fall for you. But in general, they don't really care either way.

2. Right now I'm too happy with things to really kick into gear. Life's good, and I literally just had one of the best nights of my life tonight. Will write up soon.

Cheers
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