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January 23rd, 2018
Matt281
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Cat

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Hahaha

Ahhh dude and yeah when we grabbed those two girls back later in the night my girl goes "I think my girlfriend wants to hookup with your friend".

I look over and she's fucking SALIVATING just staring at you.  

I laugh hard and am like "Um.. YEAH.  Yeah I think that's right".

I like that you take credit for us pulling them downstairs when in reality she was walking up the stairs, saw you and SQUEALS LIKE A PIG and is like "We're going back downstairs for drinks!!!" and grabs your arm.  She was fucking all over you dude, jesus.  

My girl and I are just like.. rolling our eyes laughing at the "horny kids having fun".  

How far we've come man.. look at how far we've come.

Can't believe we aren't spending Valentines day together...
-Cat
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LethalLex

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My wing and I have been doing full on stealing eachothers girls like Tyler / Julien in hotseat.

It's SUPER good for your game cause you might have hooked a girl and you're feeling all good about yourself and he just steps up and she's like BAM onto him. You really get a sense of how little a girl actually LIKING YOU plays a part in this. Kind of used to think when tyler said if he's just 1% more on he'll get the girl was him just making a point... But that'sreally how it is.
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BerlinCity

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How true.
Matt281 wrote:

1. Crazy how random it all is. Sure game makes a world of difference, but the same approach one girl will roll her eyes and backturn you and the next will practically jump on your dick.
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Matt281

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Friday

Met up with a bunch of the guys and BROTHER (out again after like 5 months lol -- love this dude). Adjunkie is also out kicking it with us despite the serious relationship.

Right after I get there, Cat walks straight into the hottest set and I follow him in. They are really not having it. What was funny to see though is it seemed like they were just pinging off each other. I think if either of them had been into it, the other would have gone along. Anyway, we plow really hard and basically get politely told to leave for a while. Good stuff.

Bounce to the next bar.

I immediately grab Cat by the arm and drag him to a table where a hottie is sitting with her friend. We get up close and personal immediatelly and I own that shit. About a minute in we're making out.

We pretty much fall in love, but Cat has to pull some other girl and I can't get anyone to wing the friend fast enough. I end up swapping numbers with her and telling her we'll meet her at the next bar... I should know better. She calls me a little later but I can't hear her. Then I can't get a hold of her again for the rest of the night.

I've really gotta stick in these, because the followup is never certain no matter how on it seems.

Rest of the night is pretty slow.

Saturday

Walk into the usual basement lounge with Big and a civilian friend and hit up the hottest girl there. Tall, thin dirty blonde girl.

We square up and she screens me on some shit. Turns out she's an NFL cheerleader. We talk for 5 minutes or so and she asks me to take her number. #winning

Rest of the night is just one big downward spiral. Lol. Actually wasn't all that bad. Just got blown out of a ton of them and basically couldn't get girls hooked in too well. I'd get in, feel like it was going alright, then they'd just leave with their friends or take off random.

Sunshine kills it all night. Big seemed to be doing pretty well.

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1. Whenever I'm feeling relatively good I decide I'm just gonna have fun and let things happen. Problem is, if things don't go the right way (if I miss some approaches or get thrown out of state) I'm no longer having fun. While there's nothing wrong with taking it easy, I think it works beter for me to commit to the process beforehand. If I hit it up and get the ball rolling, I always have more fun than if I just "chill", and then eventually get a little frustrated.

2. I keep trying to adopt an identity based on exactly how "good" I am. Am I the guy who gets 30 second makeouts turning into solid sets and picks up NFL cheerleaders, or am I the guy who girls ignore and get bored with? I think I need to stop trying to do this. I think there's more cons than pros to identifying as either good OR bad at game. It is what it is. I'm just out doing what I do and getting the results I"m going to get. I'm always trying to get better, but where I am exactly doesn't matter all that much. I'm certainly having a lot of fun being here, wherever "here" is.
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Matt281

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Sunday

Went out with a guy I've known for a while but haven't been out with much. We go to a new college bar that I didn't know about and it's a pretty cool spot. Not quite crowded enough at the moment, but still plenty of people. I wing some asian girl while he picks up a blonde girl.

We bounce around to a bunch of other spots. He is hammered out of his mind.

I do well with some German girl but don't really want to fuck her. My friend is doing well in general. I open a pretty hot brunette girl and it goes well for a couple of minutes, then my friend comes over and I pull him in and he starts spewing off drunk nonsense... and she starts talking to him instead of me lol.

This was a really cool lesson to see in action tonight. Girls don't really give a fuck if you're "cool" or smooth. They only care if you're fun to talk to and that you keep your mouth moving. The bar I'm setting for myself is way too high. Just need to learn not to filter myself and not to try so hard.

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Anyway, near the end I open these two girls sitting down. Mine is the hottest girl of the night; her friend is okay. My friend eats all their food and talks gibberish while I hit on my girl . Probably way too reserved, but I get her number before we leave. I'll call that a win :)

Cheers
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Matt281

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I wanna get this out while it's fresh in my mind.

Despite having a lot of success with this, it's pretty common for me to get frustrated about not quite "being there" yet. You can see from this journal that I've put a lot of effort into this stuff (which has certainly been rewarded if I might add), but I often find myself getting a bit frustrated about never crossing the proverbial finish line. Still no land of milk and honey, lol.

Thing is, the journey is the best part. It's supposed to be.

As much as I can fantasize about waking up in bed next to 2 stunners, in reality that event -- while it would certainly be amazing -- pales in comparison to the experiences I've had, the things I've done and the things I've learned throughout this extended process.

If you're so caught up in the end point that you're not enjoying the process, you're doing it wrong.

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Matt281 wrote:

I wanna get this out while it's fresh in my mind.

Despite having a lot of success with this, it's pretty common for me to get frustrated about not quite "being there" yet. You can see from this journal that I've put a lot of effort into this stuff (which has certainly been rewarded if I might add), but I often find myself getting a bit frustrated about never crossing the proverbial finish line. Still no land of milk and honey, lol.

Thing is, the journey is the best part. It's supposed to be.

As much as I can fantasize about waking up in bed next to 2 stunners, in reality that event -- while it would certainly be amazing -- pales in comparison to the experiences I've had, the things I've done and the things I've learned throughout this extended process.

If you're so caught up in the end point that you're not enjoying the process, you're doing it wrong.

Cheers
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Matt281

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.I hit the same fork in the road where I had to decide to either commit harder or give myself slack and I actually went the other way (you probably saw me posting about it on topbeasts). I found that by being totally non-deliberate about approaching, going for numbers and pulls I'd still approach often times over 20 girls a night, go for enough numbers and I actually pull more now. I started to feel like the cost to my mood in terms of pressure felt to "do shit" and negative emotions experiened from lapses in willpower far outweighed the lottery benefit of approaching every girl and beating down every set until the fact that it's a losing ticket is blatant. I actually think that minimizing time between sets early and approaching all is an amazing tool because you actually can go into your head by standing around and there are plenty of sets where your perception of the success likelihood is off. But if I can't figure out how to use it without creating shitty emotions compulsively (ie. not be free will or conscious choice) then I figure that's gotta be learned as a baseline from which the rest proceeds, otherwise the "going into my head" from being mad at myself or trying to perform a stressful degree of action will blow away the same effect I'll get from being a little bored or nervous from not doing enough.


Yeah man I've definitely struggled a lot with this. If you look back earlier in my journal, I had some really big problems with AA and still to this day the amount I hit it up is really dependent on my momentum.

Like you, I absolutely love to be able to just chill and enjoy the night and have things unfold naturally, then bang some hottie at the end. This kind of thing happens just often enough that I keep flip flopping back and forth, but on the other hand, it's really common that it'll go the other way too.

I definitely feel like the ideal is to just chill out and get into it without any stress or pressure (I hate the notion that you can't have fun without approaching hard), but right now it stil feels too out of my control to be useful. I mean, taking it a couple steps further, you could also just chill back and not approach at all. That could certainly be fun and easy, and once in a blue moon you'd pull a hottie, but the game is about consistency. So at this point in my development, I think consistency requires a process. Maybe at some point it'll become a non-issue and I won't have to worry about it, but for now it seems to take some conscious effort.

Cheers, thanks for the reply.
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Matt281

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I can totally relate 100% to almost everything you're saying. I think we're dealing with the exact same thing and thinking about it in a lot of similar ways, but both still experimenting with different strategies to make things run more smoothly.

It's totally different for everyone.

I've had the privilege of winging with several guys who (especially recently) are absolutely destroying it. While I learn new things from being out with them every night, the biggest constant reminder is that no one thing works for everyone.

Personally I'm constantly cycling through a million realizations and trying to use them in ways that'll be useful, but a lot of them are just different sides to the same coin. Wanting it too bad, caring too much, defining myself by results, etc. Other people have different sticking points, but the commonality is that you've just gotta keep putting one foot in front of the other, trying new things and tasting the pudding as you go.

Cheers -- and yeah, feel free to stop by Seattle sometime too :)
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Wednesday

Went out with the same guy from Sunday to a club just down the street. The ratio sucks but there's about 10 relatively cute girls, which is pretty damn good for a Wednesday.

First girl I talk to hooks pretty hard. We vibe one on one over by the bar for a good 15 minutes, then she buys me a shot and we go to dance. I escalate a bit physically but don't kiss her (wasn't sure whether to here, since she totally seemed down but we were surrounded by all her friends).

I'm pretty relaxed, and pretty sure I'm gonna fuck this girl tonight.

A few minutes later we go back to the bar and I buy her a drink to return the favor, then she runs back to her friends and dances around with some of the guys. I don't want to be clingy, so I go hit up a few other girls with my wing. Opening seems surprisingly easy.

I go back to get my girl back and she's not having it. Cool. I turn around and go hit up more other girls.

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I hit up one really hot girl who turns out to be one of the owner's girlfriends. We both hit up some short girls sitting down, and a few other two sets that go okay.

My wing wants to talk to this asian girl with two guys.

Me: "dude, he's her gay brother. Go talk to her"

lol.

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Funny but it's not till we exhaust most of the other hot girls that my state takes a hit from losing the first girl I was going to pull. I bounced back from it really well (the goal for tonight was no outcome dependence), but then as it wore on for another 20 or so minutes, I started running over it in my head again.

More than anything I was just confused as shit about what happened. Totally thought we were gonna fuck. Maybe I didn't escalate is hard enough, or maybe it was just a stroke of girl randomness, or who knows. Not really bothered by losing it (get to get a full night's sleep, fuck yeah!), but totally baffled.

Anyway, I've hit up pretty much every cute girl there so I leave a little after midnight. Not bad for a Wednesday :)

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1. Even having been out hundreds of times, I still need way more reference experiences to start to get a better idea of why girls do certain things. It seems like I have to re-aquire some of those experiences at each stage of the game. It's cool though. This stuff is fun, I'm learning, and I get to stick my dick in warm holes relatively often =)

Cheers
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