You mentioned leaving at a high note from sets to sets, how do you tell if you should continue pushing or leaving on the high note? I.e. You didn't chase the girl with the 'chode' guy dragging her away because you left at the peak of your energy in that set.  

Great video.  You're really nailing your content and hitting the notes.

Tyler

LOVE the video, LOVE the mindset!

Looking forward to your podcast.

 I saw you in Montreal in 2012, love your energy and the way you are putting concept clear in your mind and then in our mind. Thanks a lot. 

BTW: I have the same thoughts about Owen. 


Cya in Miami or Hawaii... will see !

-Mat ;)

its true, even when girls have reject me really hard, it have happen i get her anyway later in the evening or a few weeks later, when she dont remember me,

Thanks!! My ego has always been my biggest enemy (well alot less then months ago). Now I am going to slam the last piece of ego away. Your video's are always so motivating to take action!

Kall55,

I will respond to the videos later as I had chance only to reading. Kal55 I respond to you once again because you nailed very important point. For months I follow 60years of challenge concepts about seduction and it was powerful. Also his easy going approach on opening - opening means nothing - is very much similar to what RSD teaches and helps me open much much more. At the same time I think that in terms in understanding Inner Game and Female Psychology RSD tops everything. They are absolutely the best in the world and believe I am familiar with the game since MASF forum , long before the game.

I understand your concept of seduction game. I would also refer to it as a tension game. When you try to increase tension instead of decrease it. Because you want to keep tension high you should talk less, and be more intimidating by looking into eyes longer that girl and so on. That will induce in women fly or fight response which chemically is very similar to state of sexual arousal.

Yet. I also like Alexander approach which state something different. You decrease tension initially so the girl allow you to spend more time with her. You build comfort and then arousal.

Julien and Tyler style would be pumping intense emotions towards girls, and somehow desensitize her to what you are doing (moving her around, call her dog etc.) so fucking come naturally.

I know that all of that works. There are different styles works in diff rent situations, with diff rent girls.


About mindset that you are higher than girls as opposed to beeing equal. I am not agree. I think that being equal is the healthiest approach any other is just ego feeding and could backfire.

No longer use my critical thinking and stop looking for evidence. Got it. Haha.

This video can be easily misconstrued. I'm sure you're not really discouraging rational skepticism, but it comes off that way.

I get it though. It's about creating Psychological Blind Spots that help you in the long run.

And you getting laid is evidence of that.

Nuff said. 

Funny video... sorry, I got a girlfriend^^
I lol'd hard when Julien punked the pua haters. I never got the point about the looks do matter debate too.
As you said, how is this shit gonna help you? Like there is any kind of magic alternative to game. Like wining this stupid arguement is accomplishing anything good for your life.
I'm a decent looking guy, but I never got the chicks that I always wanted. Maybe that's the reason why I never put too much effort in thinking about this shit, but how is being negative helping you in life in general? If I ever adopted this kind of mindframe I have never acchieved or finished anything in life. That's actually common sense, I already knew that waaay before I stumbled upon game. I guess that's just a way for these guy to justify their self-image and stay passive. Being a victim of life instead of being active and going for your goals. I always wondered why these guys are actually so butthurt about pick-up. If they really hate marketing that much, they should create hate-sites and hate-slogans against pop-ups, webbanners and penis pill ads.^^

 Whether you think you can, or you think you can't. You're right - Henry Ford

Damn Julien, your shit's really been on point lately. Great video. I really like the ideas about self-serving frames and pushing your comfort zone.

http://www.rsdnation.com/node/335269/forum

James Ali Z, 

Being seductive is simple: relax all your movements, speak slowly, maintain seductive eye contact, and get close to her. Build the sexual tension with your eye contact..... anytime you've ever made out with a girl or fucked her, their was massive sexual tension built up prior to those moments, when you socialize with the girl or get her reacting to you by saying unecessary turrets syndrome like insults to her such as: DOG.....SLUT.....you reduce the sexual tension! Sexual tension and being seductive are concepts that RSD loves to leave out (the only two things you need to get laid)...this small fact about RSD is obvious considering YOU didnt know what being seductive even meant!!

Heres a post that you guys would enjoy...I'll let you figure out who he is (btw if your a newbie who gets scared talking to a 110 lb girl and your testicles have not descended yet then close your eyes, this is not for you...yet): 

You don't really need to do or say much of anything.

There is already tension between men and women. By definition that tension is sexual. It's always lurking just beneath the surface. If it was acceptable I believe people everywhere would be having care-free sex with multiple partners all the time. This tension is so dangerous it often leads to complete strangers having sex in less than 10 minutes. This tension is why some men feel the need to cover women head to toe in burkas. It's also why women know it's dangerous to put themselves in a situation where they are alone with you.

Do Less, Not More
Just by showing up, without doing anything, there is already sexual tension between you and women. It is natural and automatic. That means:
1) There is really nothing "special" you need to do or say
2) Most women are already naturally attracted to you

It is my belief that it's not so much as you need to do or say "special" things to CREATE attraction as much as you just need to NOT do the small things that reduce the sexual tension that is already there. And eventually kill it forever.
- talking
- laughing
- reacting
- fidgeting
- bailing her out
- supplicating facial expressions

Most strategies usually focus on what you need to do or say. There is nothing to say. There is nothing to do. Your whole life you have been doing things to lessen tension. You have always tried to make everybody else around you feel more comfortable at your own expense. You do this with your friends, your co-workers and especially the women you like. When things get tense or awkward you're the big clown making everyone laugh and feel comfortable. Even when girls reject you, you are more worried about their comfort level than your own. You don't want her to feel awkward. Aw!

This is bad because doing things to help women feel more comfortable with the sexual tension will be viewed by her as supplication. A woman is never going to be attracted to a man that can handle LESS sexual tension than she can.

In the end it always seems to come down to who wins the little tension battles:
Eye Contact: who is going to look away first
Introduction: who pulls their hand away first
Silence: who gives in and talks first
Resistance: who tries to diffuse the awkward moment first
Who breaks down and needs to have a talk about "what is going on" first

Lets look at a few subtle ways guys reduce the sexual tension in their interactions with women:

Opening & Silence
The reduction of tension starts right away. Most guys will use a social opener or make up an excuse to start the conversation. This may help you and her both feel comfortable, but is that really such a good idea?

Right from the beginning guys are scared of silences. In fact right after you introduce yourself you want to pause for a second and give her a chance to contribute. Instead what guys usually do is just assume it's their job to talk and entertain the whole time. It all comes off as they are trying to qualify themselves instead of the other way around. (The person talking is the person qualifying). When silence happens, as it always will, who feels the pressure to talk first.

Seductive Listening & Facial Expressions
Another way guys break sexual tension is by making supplicating facial expressions when listening. Instead of using this opportunity to bask in the natural tension of the moment guys get wide-eyed, flash goofy smiles and do lots of head nodding. And don't forget the nervous throw away lines like "oh my god that's so funny". Instead you want to keep relatively quiet and use more of a blank stare when listening. Similar to a poker players face. By listening intently but not giving her much feedback she will feel like she needs to qualify herself to you.

Escalation & Resistance
Anytime you get verbal or physical resistance there will be even more tension in the air. This is good news. Resistance is great! But if you react to the resistance verbally (ie. trying to diffuse the awkwardness by making a joke) you will kill that tension. The same thing happens if you look sad and become pouty. If you don't react to her resistance it never becomes real. It's not official. It's like it never happened. Being unreactive and keeping composed lets you be very persistent without coming across needy.

Tests/Asd
Many times it's not just you. When women become aroused they will try to reduce the tension by baiting you to break rapport. Of course you fall for this trap because you think you need to break rapport to create sexual tension. See the problem? The sexual tension is already there.

Even witty comebacks and reframes can reduce tension. As such, tests are best handled this way. Hold seductive eye contact, smile and turn your head away slowly. If her test is due to a legitimate sexual comfort issue then your response can be delivered in a sexual but serious tone. ie.
~ We are not having sex tonight. We're both adults. We will do whatever we are comfortable with.

Bailing Her Out
When you ask women to exchange numbers, meet up or come home with you, you should just ask her and then shut the fuck up. When women start stalling or making excuses guys always seem to bail them out by saying something. They crumble under the pressure.

Instead don't say anything and move slightly closer to her. Let the awkward moment linger. The pressure is on her. Let her feel bad for breaking rapport with you. If you can just keep your mouth shut long enough women will often come around on their own and agree to whatever you were asking for.

A good rule is to always choose the option that produces the most tension. For example if you want to set up a meet it's better to call girls vs. text them. When you text girls you let them off the hook and make it easy for them to say NO. Of course it's even better if you ask her out face to face. Anytime a woman thinks you are doing something because you fear tension (ie. using a bet as an excuse to ask her out) she is going to lose attraction for you.

Risk Creepy
As I have discussed before you want to embrace awkwardness and risk creepy. You want her breathing heavy and get her heart beating faster. That's because these symptoms mimic the signs of her being attracted. This tension is a good thing. You want it to be a bit awkward. You don't want things to feel too comfortable.

How Dare You!
Not breaking the tension can be even harder for new guys with less experience. You will be tested more. Women will look at you like how dare you be so confident. Plus, if you think of yourself as not traditionally "good looking" you will automatically think you need to DO STUFF to make women attracted to you.

Actually it's just the opposite. Guys need to do less. The things you are doing now might be getting reactions, but they are also reducing the tension. It's very subtle but when guys believe they don't have a shot with a woman, they say or do things to sabotage their chances. The funny thing is at the beginning the sexual tension and attraction was there. But because they didn't believe she was attracted, that tension made them feel awkward. So of course they were the ones to break it off first.

The key to assuming attraction is to remember that on some level there is already sexual tension between you and most women. This tension exists naturally. An automatic connection if you will. As such, your focus shouldn't be on what "special things" you need to say or do, but rather just on not breaking the natural tension and attraction that is already present.

DO LESS

Use this and the self development concepts Tyler teaches and your Gold. 

Kal

It wasn't hard to figure who's word you put here. It's obvious for me because 60 years of Challenge aside from his contribution to MASF forum release only 4 PDF's for what I know. This post is very significant and I consider 60y the best expert outside of RSD. I follow his teachings for like two years, already knows RSD. It's great stuff especially for a guys who have problems with swiching from social to seducive. When I initially find this it was really revolutionary for me, because I get preety good social game but wasn't easy for me to show my sexual intent. Right now I have this understanding also due to 60's teachings. I don't think his theory is against RSD - for example his inner game aproach is almost the same - fuck how others perceive you, fuck performance anxiety - just act. I aslo like the whole chill aproach as I like this smooth hip hop tempo as opposed to crazy rock and roll tempo, althought it depends how I feel because sometimes I just want to be social, loud and dominate.

Incorporating his teachings into RSD would be great for me, although I preety much figure out for myself how to use it with all the RSD concepts togheter.

 If she does fuck you, she just wanted to fuck anything that night and you we're the most interresting one that's it but those cases are rare.

I agree that Masculine Polarity is what get you laid, and what is ultimate value  to chick - more than your social smothness or verbal fluency. What I mention in my first post in this topic was only that I believe there exist time for everything. And sometimes going hardcore, very intense ala Julien is the way to go, but beeing intense and having masculine Polarity can coexist. It's almost like martial arts discution, whetever striking, wrestling or jiu jitsu is the best. None of them, because all of them are important. You need basics like strenght, conditioning, stamina, character but then you have to be fluent in all disciplines.
I am not talking from the newbie perspective. Mayby KAL55 is right that teaching that intensive stuff of Julien or Low key aproach of Alexander isn't the best for newbie when what he need is some connection with his sexuality as a man, but for advanced guys it is very usefull to have huge arsenal and be able to go any style.
Also that's obvious that sexual tension is necessery for getting sex at the end. I am not discussing that. I am just telling that diffrent styles to get there can  work, not only beeing super chill, serious guy, who do not talk much, if that would be the only way Julien, Tyler or Alexander would not get any success, and even from infield videos we can see that grils not only are attracted to them, but also sexually receptive.

Kind of paradox isn't it?

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=x--j6J5TB8Q

Honestly it is one of the best videos that i have seen at rsdnation and i have been here for years.
I already bookmarked the whole article + video to see it again in a couple of months.
and again
and again.
like i did with Ozzie's speech on Transformations years ago and It helped me tremendously.
Great content and mindset. I loved it.

Hey bro I really like everything you're saying here -- the ONLY thing I'd change about it is that it's ONE style of going about pickup.

The thing about it being the only style is just silly.

Many of the hottest girls I've slept with were by being social and not hitting on them.

The reason is that YES there is underlying default sexual tension between men and women.  You often have to slow play it.

Other times fast escalation.

Other times being super chill and just amping tension.

Many different ways!

Tyler

Tyler,

Your best bet when getting laid is being seductive and building sexual tension, I know your company name has the word "social" in it but please don't tell me you were purely social with those women you bedded. I am sure you were social with their friends or even with them at times when building comfort but brother, I have seen your hot seat, there was always an underlying presence of  seduction and sexual tension in your interactions and you were a master when creating it. I am sure both you and I know that building sexual tension is a skill just as much as being social is a skill. Therefore, students should focus on being seductive and building sexual tension, this is not ONE style of game...this is the base in which everything should flow, you have not communicated this to students though. A woman wants to be seduced, she wants to be as Tim said in Transformations..."taken". When students are being social with the woman they interact with they are simultaneously reducing the tension, they receive good reactions and they think their doing something right, far from it...the woman does not see him as sex worthy, she enjoys his company but does not envision sleeping with him...I see this happen every night, its sad.

Also, let me clarify, fast escalation is produced by building sexual tension very quickly, you do NOT have to slow play anything, quite the opposite, the reason why complete strangers sleep with eachother within 10 minutes is due to sexual tension, not because the guy was witty, and not because he was a good conversationalist....and NO not because he was congruent. It was his ability to rapidly build sexual tension.  Congruence should not be an issue or even mentioned as a principle, why wouldn't you be congruent when being seductive and building sexual tension doesn't even require you to force anything...something that being social, funny, and witty would. Students are put under huge amounts of pressure thinking they need to solidify all these concepts before they can be good in the field...fuck that! I guess I'm rambling, its probably because I'm one of those naturals you mentioned in the blueprint where you said: "So you can really drink water?" This shit is simple to me and I wish students would let go of all the bullshit and focus on what really matters.

Kal

 I agree with Kali, when your social it should flow through seductively not in a trying to get her reacting frame...which btw Tyler is what 95 % of guys think they need to do

Omg Dictate the Rythym BLABLABLOBLA (random words or statements) girl goes like wtf?? you keep trying she get's weirded out even if she was distracted or in a haze....people don't understand man

If you want to help to shine some light on this and elaborate please do because a simple 6 minute video by Julien saying dont dedicate yourself to One Style isn't enough, people need to know the why in detail so they can understand and start getting results. And I've seen the hotseat and the only two people I've met that have taken Bootcamps suck. So their's a missing piece in your stuff man! If you know what it is let us know cuz you sure as fuck get laid alot and have friends that get laid even more.

Fuck man! My ratio is 1000 approaches for one lay! and trust me i've been in this for a little while now im not the only one

My General manager who's only two years older then me and btw he manages a student painting company in ottawa not that "high status" goes out once a week, approaches a handful of girls during the day and still fucks one knew HOT girl a week, come on man! I ain't complaining that im not taking action...for christ sake its - 30 up here and im still hitting it up 4 nights a week. 

Only since I've been focusing on seduction has my results and oppurtinities with sex increased. (Times 10)

Thats the kind of pain I see students going through, 1000 approaches to 1 lay, theres something wrong there! And please don't bring up the PUA batting average, I can give a fuck less about that and it has no relevance to this proposterous ratio in which getting laid should be a simple straight forward process and should be EASY! I see a lot of students having this problem and its pathetic.

A huge issue I have with one of RSDs concepts is the way you guys play on the biological inclination that its counter intuitive to minimize effort in order to get the maximum output. WRONG! Let me clarify once again for everyone reading: When it comes to interacting with women you MUST minimize effort to get the maximum output. Its PATHETIC to see guys in a haze of confusion with this concept thinking they need to maximize effort in their interactions (trying way too hard and enertaining) in order to get maximum ouput (getting laid). Its the opposite, DO LESS!

***The biggest lie the devil ever told was that getting pussy from the hottest girls is hard***

 Ya but I am also starting to understand the difference between being social and being charismatic.
Ok for the total newbie he might want to learn some socials skills and learn to express him self first. Then he'll need to learn to be seductive in order to get in touch with his masculinity and use polarity aka sexual tension. <
You can ''attract''/ seduce (w/e you want to call) and sleep with a girl simply with polarity. 

How ever learning to express yourself charismaticly which expresses your personnality can create chemistry with women on emotional level. This is true. But to express yourself charmisticly you need to be in touch with your seductive side. You see this in many naturals which seem to come straight out of a romantic comedy they express themlsevles and interact "socially" with alot of charisma! 

"The basis of this method is being "friendly and cool". It's like you said -- there's a DEFAULT underlying sexual tension between men and women. Or at very least, men and women who have a good "energetic match" since there's always certain girls who are hot but I simply don't get attracted for, and vice versa."

You mention very important point. Not with all the women you will have this sexual chemistry, and for good reason - nature don't wont you to have sex with your sister for example. Seduction style is the fastest because is about find girl who is receptive and escalate fast, but there are some girls who are just shy, and they will block themself just to prevent herself to be seduced - in that cases more off radar aproach may work better, esspecially at the begining.

"1) immediate tension, fast escalation, makeout, even finger bang, etc. including fast pulls, but even if it's slower, still using the same method.

2) just having fun while being aloof, so the girl chases you while you diss and ignore her, so she chases and chases

3) social style game where you just walk around the club doing little high 5's and not staying to talk, then the girls re-approach you later in the night

4) friendly and cool style, where you do no escalation at all, but you stand out from other guys by simply being COOL and then allowing the default sexual tension to create chemistry without you consciously doing anything (this only works with really cool guys -- so just chatting to the girl is enough)

5) social circle game, where you don't even "game" at all, but go out with a group of girls and merge the party, then fuck them at the after party

6) daytime approaches, and moving sets"

Very usefull summary of existing styles. What is interesting that all of them works within the rsd concepts.

 Another mighty fine geme. Go out more and be your best self!