Julien's Blog
What's up!
I've just successfully finished my very last Free Tour / Hot Seat 2 / Bootcamp with Alexander~ here in Sydney, Australia...
And I really have to say that this part of my tour has been quite a blast.
If you ever have the opportunity to come and visit Australia, then "trust me" you will not regret it! ;]
Here are my next Free Tour / Hot Seat 2 / Bootcamp dates...
June 14 - 16, 2012: Auckland, New Zealand
June 21 - 23, 2012: Buenos Aires, Argentina
June 28 - 30, 2012: Sao Paulo, Brazil
July 5 - 7, 2012: Mexico City, Mexico
www.rsdfreetour.com / www.rsdhotseat.com / www.rsdbootcamp.com
You can also check out all of the cities that I'll be traveling to after this in the "Where I'll be next..." section at the very bottom of this article.
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On that note, what I’m very excited to finally be able to share with you today is a topic that fits into the “grey zone” of success with women in general.
It’s a TOUCHY SUBJECT!
And it’s something that I’ve also hesitated putting out for quite a while as it's something that I knew was going to be misinterpreted in many ways and by a lot of people as you’ve probably already seen here on the RSDNATION forums… ;]
HOW TO CREATE MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF DRAMA TO MAKE WOMEN FALL PSYCHOTICALLY IN LOVE WITH YOU!
So, the very first thing that I would like to start off by saying in this article and that you should constantly be keeping in mind while reading it, is that women get turned on differently than men.
Women are aroused by different things than men!
Women are constantly pinging off of the environment that’s around them and are more focused on external stimulus as opposed to men who are mostly pinging off of themselves and are more focused on internal fulfillment.
I’m sure that you’ve already heard by now that:
"GUYS ARE TURNED ON LIKE A LIGHT-SWITCH AS OPPOSED TO GIRLS ARE TURNED ON GRADUALLY LIKE A VOLUME-KNOB."
(Cf. Tyler in the Blueprint Decoded)
Women are more focused on the general vibe of the interaction than the actual material context that men tend to focus on instead.
They’re more in touch with all of the emotions that they’re feeling all throughout the interaction than the logic behind it.
They’re more concerned about what’s being subcommunicated emotionally than by what’s being communicated logically.
A social interaction is a completely different experience for a woman than it is for a man.
Whenever a man approaches and starts interacting with a woman, she’s ultimately going to be focused on what’s being subcommunicated and is going to base her own judgment on that in order to determine if he's someone who adds value to her current situation or not.
Whenever a man approaches and starts interacting with a woman that is all that she is going to be focused on, at all times.
"Is he a man who offers value or is he a man who takes value?"
So...
WHAT IS VALUE?
Value is ultimately what gets the girl.
It's what causes attraction.
And for the most part, value is a combination of these three things: survival, reproduction and GOOD EMOTIONS.
It's anything that will help you survive.
It's anything that will help you have kids and it's anything that will help your kids survive.
And beyond that, it's anything that will give you GOOD EMOTIONS.
That's it!
In order to really be a man who offers value as opposed to being a man who takes value you have to ultimately have all of the core fundamentals of game dialed down to the queue in order to satisfy the very old school “survival and reproduction” criteria and on top of that, you have to ultimately be able to provide her with any kind of range of emotion, that's positive overall.
And the topic that I would like to introduce to you today is something that goes hand in hand with this third criterion:
GOOD EMOTIONS.
Now before I go any further in this article, what you still have to remember is that this means that you still have to apply all of the core fundamentals of game in order to satisfy the first two criteria, survival and reproduction, in order to replicate this in a way that offers value.
Don’t be coming from the frame of mind of thinking that this is something that you can just use on it’s own as a substitute for everything else.
YOU CAN’T.
You still have to apply all of the other core principles that we advocate here on RSDNATION.
There is no other way around that. ;]
Now when you take the time to think about good emotions, I would like you to think about it more in terms of strong emotions that are positive overall.
That's what offers value to her.
Take a look at the world that’s around you, or even at the way that most human beings interact with each other or behave in general...
Take a look at any type of typical man to woman type of interaction or at the way that most men approach women...
Even take a look at the people that you know who are in relationships...
...from an emotional standpoint, it’s BORING!
The world that's around you is emotionally bland.
And it's actually hard for women to actually experience anything at all!
And this is exactly what I advocate here in this article:
GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE SOMETHING WITH A SELF-ACUALIZED MAN AND WITHOUT ANY REPERCUSSIONS WHATSOEVER.
From a woman’s standpoint, how much more could you ever ask for?
How much better could it ever get for her?
Now, I know that a lot of guys are quickly going to jump to the “relationship” conclusion but that’s completely beside the point.
Making the decision to actually start a relationship with someone is your own personal choice if you feel that the two of you have chemistry together and if you feel that the two of you really get along after a certain period of time.
What I’m advocating here is adding a certain frame to the interaction at hand in order to make her experience much more emotional and enjoyable on all levels.
It's about spicing up the interaction at hand, not using this as an alternative to starting a relationship with her.
What I'm advocating here is offering value by being a SEXWORTHY GUY and then on top of that, offering her an emotionally driven ROLEPLAY that she can fully let herself fall into without any repercussions whatsoever because deep down inside, she knows that you don’t truly mean it as you're someone who's of course FREE FROM ALL OUTCOME.
You’re basically offering her a chance to be the lead in the Disney fantasy that she’s always dreamed of being in.
You're offering her a chance to play the role of the princess that she’s always wanted to play without all of the complications and repercussions that usually tend to come along with it.
And as I previously mentioned here above, the way that you do this by setting a dramatic ROLEPLAY that spikes her emotions in ways that she’s never felt before:
“I felt much in such a little amount of time. He’s fucking with you I reminded myself. He went to europe and teases about coming to see me, being with me, but we only had one actual conversation the whole time he is gone. He says “I love you”…This stings a little. I feel this, but I won’t say it. Like every girl, I’ve been hurt to many times. He calls me insecure over it. This stings a little more. I feel red…Then blue. We fight. He doesn’t see where I’m coming from. Why is it always me to say hello first. I cared to much about wanting to hear his voice, see his face again, but all I ever got was “We’ll talk tomorrow.”
I lay here with no feeling left. I don’t know the right things to say anymore. All I wanted was to know him. Ahh…Listen to me. What am I doing. I let a guy get the best of me. Who jokes with someone they “love” about sleeping with other girls when they are apart.“
Every woman that I interact with experiences more heightened emotions with me than with any other guy that she’s ever met in the past or that she will ever meet in the future.
She laughs harder with me.
She cries harder with me.
She experiences more emotions overall with me and she loves me for it.
Because, ultimately no other man can offer her that!
Take a look around you again...
Everything is so bland!
Everything is so conditioned to fit into the mold of society.
Give her a chance to step out of all of that and give her a chance to actually experience something.
Now, an important thing to understand is that women KNOW that this is a ROLEPLAY and that you don’t truly mean it.
If I approach and start interacting with a woman and after five minutes of meeting her I tell her that I love her, for example.
She KNOWS that I DON'T actually love her.
The expectations are always managed.
No girl is ever going to believe that you’ve just fell in love with her after having only talked to her for a few minutes but she wants to believe in it.
And that’s where the beauty of all of this lies.
You give her the opportunity of letting lose in the romantic fantasy as opposed of it just being another fun one night stand.
It’s the one night stand where she can add all of the emotional drama that she ever dreamed of adding to it and experience all of it risk free!
CLICK ON THIS VIDEO RIGHT NOW THAT I RECORDED IN SYDNEY THAT REVEALS DRAMATIC EXPAMPLES FROM MY VERY OWN LIFE THAT WILL BLOW YOU AWAY AND THAT WILL TEACH YOU EXACTLY HOW TO APPLY THIS ON A PRACTICAL LEVEL AS OF TODAY:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFuMi36mg2k
So to conclude this article, I really want you remember that this is something that you can ONLY do when you’ve gotten all of the core fundamentals of game handled in your life.
It will not work otherwise and trust me, you do not want to set this type of frame if you haven’t yet gotten all of that handled either.
Portraying yourself as the “provider” as opposed to portraying yourself as the “lover” is one of the worst things that you could ever do to yourself if you're not a man who offers value by being self-actualized.
These are the types of situations you hear about where she will make you wait for months before sleeping with you and will never end up respecting you as man.
This is something that you can only do when the first two criteria are met in terms of what defines value.
Offer her value by being a self-actualized man and then offer her even more value by providing her with the emotions that she’s always dreamed of experiencing under the right circumstances that are of course risk-free.
She will love you for it.
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PS: Let me know what you think of the video and if you have any specific topics that you’d like to hear me cover in any future RSDNATION article!
PPS: Don’t forget to check out the Hot Seat 2 event dates over at www.rsdhotseat.com as well!
CLICK ON THIS VIDEO RIGHT NOW IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY SEEN THIS OFFICIAL PREVIEW FOR THE EVENT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlWrFgIR6CU
United States
June 16, 2012: Seattle, WA, USA
June 30, 2012: Philadelphia, PA, USA
July 14, 2012: Denver, CO, USA
August 4, 2012: Honolulu, HI, USA (Julien running day 2)
September 1, 2012: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Europe
September 22, 2012: Frankfurt, Germany
September 29, 2012: Stockholm, Sweden
October 6, 2012: Oslo, Norway
October 13, 2012: Edinburgh, United Kingdom
October 20, 2012: Dublin, Ireland
October 27, 2012: London, United Kingdom
November 17, 2012: Barcelona, Spain
December 1, 2012: Moscow, Russia
December 8, 2012: Athens, Greece
February 23, 2013: Bucharest, Romania
March 2, 2013: Sofia, Bulgaria
March 23, 2013: Gothenburg, Sweden
March 30, 2013: Birmingham, United Kingdom
Australia & New Zealand
June 16, 2012: Auckland, New Zealand
Canada
August 25, 2012: Vancouver, Canada
September 1, 2012: Toronto, Canada
September 8, 2012: Montreal, Canada
Latin America
June 23, 2012: Buenos Aires, Argentina
June 30, 2012: Sao Paulo, Brazil
July 7, 2012: Mexico City, Mexico
Middle East
December 15, 2012: Tel Aviv, Israel
January 5, 2013: Dubai, United Arab Emirates
South Africa
January 12, 2013: Cape Town, South Africa
January 19, 2013: Johannesburg, South Africa
www.rsdhotseat.com
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I've just successfully finished my very last Free Tour / Hot Seat 2 / Bootcamp with Alexander~ here in Sydney, Australia...
And I really have to say that this part of my tour has been quite a blast.
If you ever have the opportunity to come and visit Australia, then "trust me" you will not regret it! ;]
Here are my next Free Tour / Hot Seat 2 / Bootcamp dates...
June 14 - 16, 2012: Auckland, New Zealand
June 21 - 23, 2012: Buenos Aires, Argentina
June 28 - 30, 2012: Sao Paulo, Brazil
July 5 - 7, 2012: Mexico City, Mexico
www.rsdfreetour.com / www.rsdhotseat.com / www.rsdbootcamp.com
You can also check out all of the cities that I'll be traveling to after this in the "Where I'll be next..." section at the very bottom of this article.
<>==========================================<>
On that note, what I’m very excited to finally be able to share with you today is a topic that fits into the “grey zone” of success with women in general.
It’s a TOUCHY SUBJECT!
And it’s something that I’ve also hesitated putting out for quite a while as it's something that I knew was going to be misinterpreted in many ways and by a lot of people as you’ve probably already seen here on the RSDNATION forums… ;]
HOW TO CREATE MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF DRAMA TO MAKE WOMEN FALL PSYCHOTICALLY IN LOVE WITH YOU!
So, the very first thing that I would like to start off by saying in this article and that you should constantly be keeping in mind while reading it, is that women get turned on differently than men.
Women are aroused by different things than men!
Women are constantly pinging off of the environment that’s around them and are more focused on external stimulus as opposed to men who are mostly pinging off of themselves and are more focused on internal fulfillment.
I’m sure that you’ve already heard by now that:
"GUYS ARE TURNED ON LIKE A LIGHT-SWITCH AS OPPOSED TO GIRLS ARE TURNED ON GRADUALLY LIKE A VOLUME-KNOB."
(Cf. Tyler in the Blueprint Decoded)
Women are more focused on the general vibe of the interaction than the actual material context that men tend to focus on instead.
They’re more in touch with all of the emotions that they’re feeling all throughout the interaction than the logic behind it.
They’re more concerned about what’s being subcommunicated emotionally than by what’s being communicated logically.
A social interaction is a completely different experience for a woman than it is for a man.
Whenever a man approaches and starts interacting with a woman, she’s ultimately going to be focused on what’s being subcommunicated and is going to base her own judgment on that in order to determine if he's someone who adds value to her current situation or not.
Whenever a man approaches and starts interacting with a woman that is all that she is going to be focused on, at all times.
"Is he a man who offers value or is he a man who takes value?"
So...
WHAT IS VALUE?
Value is ultimately what gets the girl.
It's what causes attraction.
And for the most part, value is a combination of these three things: survival, reproduction and GOOD EMOTIONS.
It's anything that will help you survive.
It's anything that will help you have kids and it's anything that will help your kids survive.
And beyond that, it's anything that will give you GOOD EMOTIONS.
That's it!
In order to really be a man who offers value as opposed to being a man who takes value you have to ultimately have all of the core fundamentals of game dialed down to the queue in order to satisfy the very old school “survival and reproduction” criteria and on top of that, you have to ultimately be able to provide her with any kind of range of emotion, that's positive overall.
And the topic that I would like to introduce to you today is something that goes hand in hand with this third criterion:
GOOD EMOTIONS.
Now before I go any further in this article, what you still have to remember is that this means that you still have to apply all of the core fundamentals of game in order to satisfy the first two criteria, survival and reproduction, in order to replicate this in a way that offers value.
Don’t be coming from the frame of mind of thinking that this is something that you can just use on it’s own as a substitute for everything else.
YOU CAN’T.
You still have to apply all of the other core principles that we advocate here on RSDNATION.
There is no other way around that. ;]
Now when you take the time to think about good emotions, I would like you to think about it more in terms of strong emotions that are positive overall.
That's what offers value to her.
Take a look at the world that’s around you, or even at the way that most human beings interact with each other or behave in general...
Take a look at any type of typical man to woman type of interaction or at the way that most men approach women...
Even take a look at the people that you know who are in relationships...
...from an emotional standpoint, it’s BORING!
The world that's around you is emotionally bland.
And it's actually hard for women to actually experience anything at all!
And this is exactly what I advocate here in this article:
GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE SOMETHING WITH A SELF-ACUALIZED MAN AND WITHOUT ANY REPERCUSSIONS WHATSOEVER.
From a woman’s standpoint, how much more could you ever ask for?
How much better could it ever get for her?
Now, I know that a lot of guys are quickly going to jump to the “relationship” conclusion but that’s completely beside the point.
Making the decision to actually start a relationship with someone is your own personal choice if you feel that the two of you have chemistry together and if you feel that the two of you really get along after a certain period of time.
What I’m advocating here is adding a certain frame to the interaction at hand in order to make her experience much more emotional and enjoyable on all levels.
It's about spicing up the interaction at hand, not using this as an alternative to starting a relationship with her.
What I'm advocating here is offering value by being a SEXWORTHY GUY and then on top of that, offering her an emotionally driven ROLEPLAY that she can fully let herself fall into without any repercussions whatsoever because deep down inside, she knows that you don’t truly mean it as you're someone who's of course FREE FROM ALL OUTCOME.
You’re basically offering her a chance to be the lead in the Disney fantasy that she’s always dreamed of being in.
You're offering her a chance to play the role of the princess that she’s always wanted to play without all of the complications and repercussions that usually tend to come along with it.
And as I previously mentioned here above, the way that you do this by setting a dramatic ROLEPLAY that spikes her emotions in ways that she’s never felt before:
“I felt much in such a little amount of time. He’s fucking with you I reminded myself. He went to europe and teases about coming to see me, being with me, but we only had one actual conversation the whole time he is gone. He says “I love you”…This stings a little. I feel this, but I won’t say it. Like every girl, I’ve been hurt to many times. He calls me insecure over it. This stings a little more. I feel red…Then blue. We fight. He doesn’t see where I’m coming from. Why is it always me to say hello first. I cared to much about wanting to hear his voice, see his face again, but all I ever got was “We’ll talk tomorrow.”
I lay here with no feeling left. I don’t know the right things to say anymore. All I wanted was to know him. Ahh…Listen to me. What am I doing. I let a guy get the best of me. Who jokes with someone they “love” about sleeping with other girls when they are apart.“
Every woman that I interact with experiences more heightened emotions with me than with any other guy that she’s ever met in the past or that she will ever meet in the future.
She laughs harder with me.
She cries harder with me.
She experiences more emotions overall with me and she loves me for it.
Because, ultimately no other man can offer her that!
Take a look around you again...
Everything is so bland!
Everything is so conditioned to fit into the mold of society.
Give her a chance to step out of all of that and give her a chance to actually experience something.
Now, an important thing to understand is that women KNOW that this is a ROLEPLAY and that you don’t truly mean it.
If I approach and start interacting with a woman and after five minutes of meeting her I tell her that I love her, for example.
She KNOWS that I DON'T actually love her.
The expectations are always managed.
No girl is ever going to believe that you’ve just fell in love with her after having only talked to her for a few minutes but she wants to believe in it.
And that’s where the beauty of all of this lies.
You give her the opportunity of letting lose in the romantic fantasy as opposed of it just being another fun one night stand.
It’s the one night stand where she can add all of the emotional drama that she ever dreamed of adding to it and experience all of it risk free!
CLICK ON THIS VIDEO RIGHT NOW THAT I RECORDED IN SYDNEY THAT REVEALS DRAMATIC EXPAMPLES FROM MY VERY OWN LIFE THAT WILL BLOW YOU AWAY AND THAT WILL TEACH YOU EXACTLY HOW TO APPLY THIS ON A PRACTICAL LEVEL AS OF TODAY:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFuMi36mg2k
So to conclude this article, I really want you remember that this is something that you can ONLY do when you’ve gotten all of the core fundamentals of game handled in your life.
It will not work otherwise and trust me, you do not want to set this type of frame if you haven’t yet gotten all of that handled either.
Portraying yourself as the “provider” as opposed to portraying yourself as the “lover” is one of the worst things that you could ever do to yourself if you're not a man who offers value by being self-actualized.
These are the types of situations you hear about where she will make you wait for months before sleeping with you and will never end up respecting you as man.
This is something that you can only do when the first two criteria are met in terms of what defines value.
Offer her value by being a self-actualized man and then offer her even more value by providing her with the emotions that she’s always dreamed of experiencing under the right circumstances that are of course risk-free.
She will love you for it.
<>=======================================<>
PS: Let me know what you think of the video and if you have any specific topics that you’d like to hear me cover in any future RSDNATION article!
PPS: Don’t forget to check out the Hot Seat 2 event dates over at www.rsdhotseat.com as well!
CLICK ON THIS VIDEO RIGHT NOW IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY SEEN THIS OFFICIAL PREVIEW FOR THE EVENT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlWrFgIR6CU
United States
June 16, 2012: Seattle, WA, USA
June 30, 2012: Philadelphia, PA, USA
July 14, 2012: Denver, CO, USA
August 4, 2012: Honolulu, HI, USA (Julien running day 2)
September 1, 2012: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Europe
September 22, 2012: Frankfurt, Germany
September 29, 2012: Stockholm, Sweden
October 6, 2012: Oslo, Norway
October 13, 2012: Edinburgh, United Kingdom
October 20, 2012: Dublin, Ireland
October 27, 2012: London, United Kingdom
November 17, 2012: Barcelona, Spain
December 1, 2012: Moscow, Russia
December 8, 2012: Athens, Greece
February 23, 2013: Bucharest, Romania
March 2, 2013: Sofia, Bulgaria
March 23, 2013: Gothenburg, Sweden
March 30, 2013: Birmingham, United Kingdom
Australia & New Zealand
June 16, 2012: Auckland, New Zealand
Canada
August 25, 2012: Vancouver, Canada
September 1, 2012: Toronto, Canada
September 8, 2012: Montreal, Canada
Latin America
June 23, 2012: Buenos Aires, Argentina
June 30, 2012: Sao Paulo, Brazil
July 7, 2012: Mexico City, Mexico
Middle East
December 15, 2012: Tel Aviv, Israel
January 5, 2013: Dubai, United Arab Emirates
South Africa
January 12, 2013: Cape Town, South Africa
January 19, 2013: Johannesburg, South Africa
www.rsdhotseat.com
<>=======================================<>
WWW.JULIENLIFE.COM
www.twitter.com/RSDJulien
www.facebook.com/RSDJulien
www.youtube.com/RSDJulien
www.youtube.com/JulienFreeTour
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Jonnyjones
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TheFinisher
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thecrochunter
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TheAnchorMan
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SteveyP
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No really. No one...
No girlfriend. No fiance. No wife. Not even your sister.
Julien - we didn't get to setup the tonight and tomorrow because by the time I got back to the table at Cargo apparantly Ash's drink was spiked and you had to bail. That poor bastard. I hope you didn't rape him.
Tonight is industry night in Sydney which means that all the hotties that work in hospitality will be having their nights off - they'll be going out and getting wasted. Kings is usually the place to go but I have a few other ideas as well. I'll call Ash later to check in.
MrCreepGuy
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(awww yeah, i'm in the top 10)
bangarang4570
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Join Date: 03/01/2012 | Posts: 227
You could use it during the "attraction phase". This would be great before pulling a girl to another location during day game or night game. I need to field test this shit.
taipan
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Join Date: 04/13/2012 | Posts: 273
loving this new insight. and the banner. pimp
peace
archy
Junior Member
Join Date: 08/19/2009 | Posts: 12
sometimes no need to create drama; it's already there, as you said it's kind of drug , girls will always find something to fufill this need...DRAMAAAA !! but how to deal with it has to do with how much centred you're and that lead me to think about slowing the vibe as Alex mentioned in his last video, and that is HUGE so my question is how can we make it part of our daily life even when our state goes up how can we maintain this slow vibe ?
Thanks
HYFR11
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Join Date: 03/13/2012 | Posts: 39
Great Vid Homie! and honestly bro this vid came at the perfect timing for me. Dating this chick, HB10, club chick, bartenter, anyways...
I felt our relationship was getting stagnent, and she was being super shady today/ this weekend, soo I decided to drop some of this on her just to stir some shitt into the fire. I'm not a big drama guy whatsoever.. but I trust you dude and to be honest, I just said fukk it and went with it.. yolo. Lol
It caused massive amounts of drama.. but it worked, very well actually. Its extremely wierd b/c I would never think to stir drama.. it seems... CounterIntuitive?? But its like these type of girls feed off of it. Its an element that they need in their lives.
-Just a lil side note though... once I just got a little drama going, in the beginning I could tell she was like WTF where is this coming from?? (due in part to it being incongruent to who I always am) when in reality this was really just a Shit Test or her just tyring to diffuse the situation.
Her: "why are you being like this, your being so immature and starting drama, were never like this and your acting like an immature boy"
Butttt, as I continued inserting drama she got more and more emotionally invested.
Just thought I'de share a very quick example of me applying this concept.
Keep up the solid insights/ ideas / experiences and knowledge dude!
HYFR11
Member
Join Date: 03/13/2012 | Posts: 39
Asking b/c you said you pulled this with the doctor chick you where dating and it was like the craziest fukked up relationship that you have been in, and it was when you were "younger and immature"
That seems to be congruent to what my girl said when she called me an "immature boy" for throwing drama at her.
But at the same time it worked for me.. and seemed to work with your doctor chick as well lol
Julien
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Join Date: 04/05/2008 | Posts: 479
Being congruent does not necessarily mean being "honest", in the traditional sense of the word...
What all of this really comes down to is having that alignment in all of your thoughts, words and actions while at the same time being free from all of the outcome that's attached to it.
There is a difference between "lying" while not being congruent and having some kind of ulterior motive behind it and "lying" while still being congruent and being free from all of the outcome that's attached to it, for example:
HER: "What do you do?"
ME: "I work at McDonalds."
Or...
HER: "Where do you live?"
ME: "I live in my mother's basement."
In these two particular scenarios you're "lying", but at the same time you're saying what you want to say at that moment in time while being free from all of the outcome that's attached to it.
And as a side note, it's also important to remember that women are not looking at the material context of the interaction as men tend to do, but are looking at what's being subcommunicated instead.
They're not looking at the words that are being said but at the emotions that are being offered instead. ;]
Lancelot
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btw bring the hot seat to helsinki i wanna attend again
Julien
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You should always want to be her emotional anchor amidst all of the drama and emotional chaos that's in the interaction at hand and you achieve this by being centered and grounded in your own reality.
Now, this doesn't necessarily mean slowing down however...
I personally like to view it as "being grounded" or having that nice "center of gravity" to all of your thoughts, words and actions.
sometimes no need to create drama; it's already there, as you said it's kind of drug , girls will always find something to fufill this need...DRAMAAAA !! but how to deal with it has to do with how much centred you're and that lead me to think about slowing the vibe as Alex mentioned in his last video, and that is HUGE so my question is how can we make it part of our daily life even when our state goes up how can we maintain this slow vibe ?
Thanks
Busking for Pussy
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Julien
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However, it also really all depends on you and the types of emotions that you mostly enjoy overall...
I highly recommend that you check out "The Way of the Superior Man" by David Deida if you haven't already.
He talks a lot about this and in great detail. ;]
Asking b/c you said you pulled this with the doctor chick you where dating and it was like the craziest fukked up relationship that you have been in, and it was when you were "younger and immature"
That seems to be congruent to what my girl said when she called me an "immature boy" for throwing drama at her.
But at the same time it worked for me.. and seemed to work with your doctor chick as well lol
archy
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the best way to describe it is "being grounded" or having that nice "center of gravity" to all of your thoughts, words and actions.
what i meant by slowing the vibe is like for me the more my vibe is slow the more i'm relax so i'm drawing state from within it's like being in this nice rythme where everything is aligned ,and that creat what you described as emotional anchor.
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I haven't really applied it to cold approach pick up though. But I certainly see the power in it.
Honestly all growing up I have had cinematic role models for this type of behavior. The biggest influences by far have been Brad Pitt in the movie "Legends of the Fall" and Richard Gere in "An Officer and a Gentleman", both amazing examples for this topic.
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Glad you enjoyed Aus and got to experience the genius of Alf Stewart ;)
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Bitches will show up at your work place
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no homo.
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I guess since no one else is doing it, I feel the need to respond to this from an ethical standpoint - Julien, would really appreciate if you can take a brief moment to respond to this as it will probably help clarify things a lot for your students:
I GREATLY respect your skills, enthusiasm and work ethic man. You and some other RSD guys have inspired me and taught me a lot. One thing is to see the world through your own eyes, which i'm gonna do here.
So again: JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING WORKS SHOULD WE DO IT?
I have no doubt that what you do Julien works amazingly, I have little doubt you have incredible skills with women. But if we take a moment to question WHY this drama idea works, I think we'd agree it works because Women are wired a certain way evolutionarily to respond sexually to certain triggers and that you have found the trigger and are pressing on it at will. Now I will ask you this: is this is any different than McDonalds figuring out our triggers to sugary, fatty salty food and pushing those buttons? These 'triggers' in fast food are meant to INDICATE a nutritious source of food because back in the day, sweet fatty food, would actually indicate this. Now because we have figured out how to refine food, we can deliver the trigger with no nutritional value. These triggers (refined fat, sugar, salt), in the way they are delivered are proving to be extremely harmful to people and society in the long run. I posit you are sort of doing the same thing here.
You have figured out how to trigger her emotional system into indicating that you are a man she would want to have kids with - I am guessing because it indicates you have a strong reality, you have a purpose outside her etc. so she becomes sexually responsive to these characteristics - BUT you are doing it by lying, deceiving, fucking her over. Like, even if she is "addicted to you for years" and keeps coming back for more - it is the same as people who are addicted to smoking for years even though it is not good for them at all. In that way you are kind of pissing in the pool. Like imagine everyone in the world was doing that. Would you want to raise your kids in that environment? Can you imagine a world where everyguy is doing what you are doing? I think it would be FUCKED UP.
Why not use your powers and skills to help create a better more stable world. Give the girl her fantasy WITHOUT being dishonest in your intentions. It is totally possible. Let her know you are not her boyfriend, that she shouldn't expect you to be the one. THEN, do as you will...
Again with all respect to you man - think we can still 'mack the hoes', and not 'fuck with chicks heads'. Like kind of the idea of 'sustainable fishing' if you think of it. You are in a position where you can help create a world where men and women are attracted to each other more and there is more connection, but doesn't involve webs of deceipt and girls not trusting guys anymore.
Not 'nice' guys. Fuck that. But good solid attractive dudes.
Hope to hear back.
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Yeah I know I thought about this many times.
Is it OK for guys to be making money out of stupid people? You can say it's their choice to buy the McDonalds and shit like that
Is it OK for guys to make money selling drugs?
Well I did this once to a girl and during I was like 'How can she actually believe I like her', but guess what she did and then I felt I shouldn't have done that to her. Once I cut her off she kept asking why?! and crying and shit
Then of course she found another guy and it was all good
But you never know, what if the girl is batshit crazy and engages in self-destructive behavior
Maybe that's good, let's kill all the bad weeds. Let's make the idiots fall in love and then destroy them by fucking other girls right in front of them while telling them we hate them, then apologize say we're kidding "I do this cause I really like you" bring them back and then do it again until they reach lunacy from riding a rollercoster that makes them feel a full range of emotions.
Truth is I stopped trying "to show everyone the light". Some people are just fucking monkeys, some are truly conditioned to the bone, you can't bring them back. And some are just lazy and they don't want to change, they stay rolled up in their cocoons of mediocrity. So either we ignore them or we use them for our entertainment. And we feel superior, we cater our ego a little bit more
It's all good in the land of RSDnation
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Got it.
Pimp 1st.
Drug Dealer 2nd.
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It's depressing at first. It's how it is. Get over it. You're living RIGHT NOW. TIC TAC. Create the life you want, or go with the zombies.
It's a miracle that society works. We are all men, free to do anything with our brains and hands. What keeps the thing working is a few ideas propagated like a virus in the minds of everyone, law and shit.
Everyone won't be doing it. That's the thing too. Maybe 1 guy in a few thousands actually. The rest won't do shit.
And hey, Girls like it. They want it. And they know deep down it's not true. THey just rationalise on top of it. It won't hurt them, it's not a fucking deep relationship. Are they better off feeling nothing, living like males?
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I didnt mean that. I wanna take a bootcamp with you.
... nvm fuck off, never wanna see you again.
jk boss video
its also good some of your vids are getting longer and more focused.
side note drama
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Very interresting video indeed.
But Tylers phrase NEWBIE MISINTERPRETATION ALERT comes to mind.
I think thekato has some points here, not blindly following the advice but thinking for himself and his own ethical viewpoint.
That being said, what I took from this was, even if you yourself dont create it, you need not fear the drama or actively avoid it as I have been doing. Like for instance, if I wanna stop seeing a girl I just gradually stop texting her instead of manning up and saying yo I dont wanna do this anymore. Misunderstood politeness, dont wanna hurt their feelings. Or like a belief that girls dont want a "player" if they found out he is. Why do I still think that?
I realize that I have been mistaken being honest to girls for being a dick. Trying to hide that I fuck other girls. Duh. Like last night some girl was all up in my face wanted to make out while I was going to an afterparty with another girl. I told her no, I am going with that girl, she was totally cool with it and said raincheck. So they dont give a shit. But this is easier when you are on fire than when choding about begging for crumbs.
This is perhaps not relevant to others but to where I am right now.
I have this venue I frequent where I get most of my lays and I sort of have a fear that the different girls I bang/have banged/want to bang will be there at the same time and I will "have to answer to the high court of angry bitches" if they find out about eachother. Saw some other guy writing: "I am going to X venue, three girls I am banging/wanna bang will be there, its gonna be fun". Tight, I like that attitude, but find it hard to adopt it.
Back to the topic at hand, also I realize of course that Julien says you gotta have the core fundamentals down and what not, and that the girls realize deep down that you are not serious. But honestly I think dumping a girl and watching the drama as she cries for an hour just to get in state, knowing you will call to get back with her at 4 a.m. after fucking some other broad is treating the girl like shit. Did she deep down realize you were not serious about dumping her? Is there something I am missing here? In that extreme example Julien lets us know how far you can take it and thats interresting knowledge from as game viewpoint but not the kind of person I would want to be. I am not gonna take it this far and there sure isnt any need to take it this far.
Buuut I have some examples where I have been a dick towards chicks to keep them hoes on their toes. (yo)
I am banging this slamming married thai girl, I tell her she is fat. Whenever she asks me if I wanna do something other than having sex I look at her like she is stupid. Expression like "off course not." (Also I dont wanna get shot in the face as her husband owns a shotgun and a pistol.) I tell her she needs to go when we are done. I tell her I bang other chicks so on and so on. These are perhaps not good examples by themselves but the general vibe is that I dont care about her and she fuckin loves it.
Actually this is the most interresting vid in a long time, got me thinking. Good thing it creates some debate too. Sorry for a long post I just ranted for my own sake.
I will become more of an "asshole!" But I will try to balance it.
And I will watch the video again. Cheers Julien.
Peace
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I had couple of girls do this to me. One eluded me for a few weeks then proclaimed undying love for me (that is why she was evasive, she couldn deal with extreme emotions for me, whatever) and than cheated on me in front of me out of vengence for something jekish I did. It fucks you up no question but its gone in couple of days. Never held any grudges against her just didn't want to have anything to do with her because I deemed her as unhealthy for me. I was a chode back then. Now I would endoulge in some drama because I can control my emotions much better than before. If you can produce some drama in responsible way and you can control it, then add it to your game, I believe it will up your results. And the girls will love you for that.
One more example I can think of is when you have a huge drama episode with your long term girlfriend, you make up, have mindblowing sex and love each other deeply again. But emotional high lasts for a few days and than thigs get back to normalcy.
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And now I am finding that I need that edge back - it's a bit confusing actually!
I have this girl at the moment I only just met and a few nights ago I accidentally ran into her at the club and I was in a really down mood and offered no value at all and at the end of the night she shouted at me "what's with the fucking attitutde? Call me when you've snapped out of it" - total drama queen. I just didn't care. Or actually I did and decided to delete her from my life as "I don't need that shit" - but maybe she did that just because she wants drama. An I used to love drama and all my relationships were based on it but I guess you could say they were all fucked up.
And they distract me from making money in my new career which is very important to me or finishing projects asI get addicted to the drama too!
It's quite confusing now.
Damn good videos though Julien.
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I thought this video was really off for some reason. The vibe was a bit incongruent. Maybe it was just that Julien didn't express his ideas clearly, but it seemed really inauthentic. Basically I felt like Julien was promoting being manipulative which totally goes against being authentic. I understand expressing and giving a girl a range of emotions, but blatant lying and purposefully manipulating her emotions to create drama doesn't seem to promote any RSD principles.
I doubt that's what Julien intended since he did mention that on some level a girl doesn't believe it and wants to rationalize it to herself. Still, some clarification would be helpful.
How does creating intentional drama in a girls life align with any RSD principles (especially with being authentic)?
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Julien, your material is usually awesome, but this video brings up some moral issues for me.
You say: "Some of these frames you can set are completely ridiculous...Deep down does she really think that? She'll believe it, because she wants to believe it."
Just because you think it's ridiculous, doesn't mean that all girls will. The idea of having a deep emotional connection with somebody within a short period of time, love at first sight, is a very real concept to many girls. Think about all the social conditioning that feeds into this belief. Deep down, many girls will believe it, and will fall in love with you, because women are more emotionally driven than logically. As an intelligent, self-aware man, you know that this roleplay is ridiculous, but as an emotionally driven, socially conditioned woman this roleplay could easily be believed to be genuine. This is even more likely when you consider your understanding of female psychology and your aptitude for triggering certain responses.
"I don't have to wait years, to build that type of connection with someone, I can just fall into it right now, and there are no repurcussions."
That last bit about there being no repurcussions is bullshit. There may not be any repurcussions for you, but you go on to give a bunch of examples of how upset some of these girls were. You may be emotionally detached from the outcome, but they're obviously not, they are fully involved.
8:00 "She thinks that I'm her boyfriend, because I'm like 'Boyfriend-girlfriend', even though I haven't seen her in 2 months"
Again, just because you don't think you're boyfriend and girlfriend doesn't mean she doesn't, especially if you've communicated to her that you are. You shouldn't cheat on somebody, regardless of how you feel about the situation and your ability to get away with it. Doing so punishes good behaviour (trust, loyalty and fuck, even just hooking up with a guy quickly), and can seriously damage the girl's ability to trust.
Think about it, this is the kind of behaviour that causes girls to put up defensive barriers to developing an emotional connection with a guy they just met, or any guy for that matter, because she's been trained to believe that when a guy tells her this kind of shit that he's just talking smack and is going to fuck her physically and emotionally. It's like what TheKato wrote about fishing sustainably, this kind of behaviour is shitting where you eat.
"I force myself into the provider, then accelerate the love process, and fuck her that night". This is right on the mark, I've done this a few times before, and it works awesome. I don't do that anymore though, because I got sick of watching girls I had grown to care about cry. I'm a very empathetic person, which is useful in understanding social dynamics, and because of that, even if it's a girl that I can't wait to get away from, seeing her genuinely upset hurts me because I don't like seeing people in pain.
This all being said, I know this shit works so goddamn well, and I still laughed through this video and found value in it, you're a funny guy. I just want yourself and others to consider the implications of the behaviours discussed in this video.
Cheers.
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i read in jeffys book that all the girls he burned formed a hate club and fucked up his game at every bar he tried to game at! If we all go around causing drama won't girls hate us and ruin our social lives and futures? O______O
How do you use drama on every girl you meet but not get a hate club like jeffy? >________<####
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Reaon being:
It's fake and it's manipulation.
Yeah that's cool if you just want to bang girls a couple of times (or one time) and you get what you want if you can manage to leave her on a good note without hurting her of emotionally fucking her up.
But if she actually starts to like you or you start to like her, then you're stuck in something that was fake and lies, and not really the person you are.
And when she realizes this, bye bye attraction and relationship.
It's like that dude from "The Game" (forgot his name), but he learned pickup, got some super hottie to fall for him using routines or styles that were not him, they got married and after a year he was miserable and they split up.
And as a dating instructor I'd say you have a responsibility to your students. Yes, maybe with this style you can give them initial results of getting girls and dates and sex, but it could end up fucking them up even more if they don't reailze that not being themselves is swimming upstream against a strong current.
I liked the old RSD styles better where it was about developing yourself, removing limiting beliefs, becoming super confident and getting girls by being you and not through manipulation, lies or versades.
Just my 2 cents. Use it, don't use it.
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Reaon being:
It's fake and it's manipulation.
Yeah that's cool if you just want to bang girls a couple of times (or one time) and you get what you want if you can manage to leave her on a good note without hurting her of emotionally fucking her up.
But if she actually starts to like you or you start to like her, then you're stuck in something that was fake and lies, and not really the person you are.
And when she realizes this, bye bye attraction and relationship.
It's like that dude from "The Game" (forgot his name), but he learned pickup, got some super hottie to fall for him using routines or styles that were not him, they got married and after a year he was miserable and they split up.
And as a dating instructor I'd say you have a responsibility to your students. Yes, maybe with this style you can give them initial results of getting girls and dates and sex, but it could end up fucking them up even more if they don't reailze that not being themselves is swimming upstream against a strong current.
I liked the old RSD styles better where it was about developing yourself, removing limiting beliefs, becoming super confident and getting girls by being you and not through manipulation, lies or versades.
Just my 2 cents. Use it, don't use it.
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