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I Decline To Accept The End Of Man-Fear, Faulkner and a Pebble
William Faulkner’s nobel prize acceptance speech, given on December 10th, 1950 is an astute and honest attack on fear. That being said, it is less of an attack on fear and more of an honest look at people- who we are, what makes us tick and why we are so out of touch with our own emotions and desires.
“Our tragedy today is a general and universal physical fear so long sustained by now that we can even bear it. There are no longer problems of the spirit. There is only one question: When will I be blown up?”
It’s not just that we are afraid- it’s that we are so used to beign afraid, it is such a baseline, for all of us to be afraid, that we don’t even recognize it anymore- it is so long sustained by now that we can bear it. Imagine being born with a pebble sewn into the bottom of your foot and you walked around with it your whole life- that’s just the way your life was. It is easy to see how one could get used to this pebble- probably, at a certain point, even forget that the pebble exists at all.
This is the case with fear. The moment we are born, we are taught to be afraid- we are taught to fear the future, regret the past and numb the present. And in this cocktail of emotional suppression, nowhere does anyone ask the question why. Why would we? Imagine that not only do you have this pebble sewn into your foot- but everybody else that you ever were to meet, also had a small pebble sewn into their foot. Sure, some were smaller or larger than others- but without fail, every single person you ever met in your life had some sort of pebble sewn into their foot— My question to you, is simply, if this were the case, would YOU ask why? More importantly than asking why, would you take any actual action to remove that pebble?
From my experience, it probably depends.
If you’re one of the people on this planet whose pebble is pretty small, maybe it’s sort of nestled into a weird nook or cranny in your foot that doesn’t really have pressure applied to it when you walk, if this is the case, then the answer is probably no.
On the other side of the spectrum, while I don’t have experience with this, I could imagine that if you were one of the people on this planet whose pebble is incredibly big and simaltaneously directly located in the center of your foot- there’s a good chance that the answer for you, oddly enough, is probably no.
In both cases, there are always exceptions- there are always people that will notice the pebble, that will ask why- and there are even fewer people who will take action to remove it- or maybe more accurately- to accept it.
Back to fear though. What I think is so interesting about what Faulkner is saying, is that it’s like, we have this fear that we don’t even notice anymore- and it is this fear, which we don’t notice, which is entirely denying us the ability to even have meaningful problems, meaningful issues- we are stuck wrtiing and talkign about the glands, while entirely ignoring the heart. We are living this life, constantly worried about the future, and in the context of when Faulkner was writing this piece, that meant asking ourselves, “When will the bomb go off?”… “When am I going to die?”…”When am I going to be blown up?” …
“Because of this, the young man or woman writing today has forgotten the problems of the human heart in conflict with itself which alone can make good writing because only that is worth writing about, worth the agony and the sweat. He must learn them again.”
We are so entirely consumed by this invisible fear that we have literally forgotten who we are. We have forgotten that we have emotions that go beyond the superficial ones like anger and fear- these are such superficial emotions, and yet they are the ones that it seems like the majority of us spend our time dealing with- never able to go below the surface and see what’s really down there. Faulkner is talking about writing, but what he’s really talking about is lfie. Writing and life are really just one and the same.
The superficial emotions which we deal with on a daily basis are truly not worth the agony and sweat that are put into them. What is worth the agony and sweat? Well, I can only speak for myself- but I have spent the past 2.5 years of my life going below the surface, taking a peek at what’s down there. Sometimes it’s horrifying, other times it’s truly majestic and other times, well other times, it’s entirely uneventful.
For me, Love is worth the agony and tears- not a love governed by jealousy, anger or fear- but a universal love- a love which is a slow burning coal, not really directed at anything in particular, but rather just kind of there. A love whose natural, and only, livable habitat, is emotional tranquility and mental calm.
And it is this love which I believe is, at least in part, what Faulkner was saying we need to learn again. And truthfully, fuck it, who gives a shit if that’s what Faulkner was saying we need to learn again- It’s what I had to learn again, and will continue to learn for the rest of my life. The thing is it really doesn’t matter what Faulkner meant or intended when he wrote that- all that matters for me, is what I got out of it.
I used to wonder why Faulkner, when giving lessons about his own books at The University of Virginia, would lie to his students and year after year, purposely give entirely different interpretatinos of his work to each subsequent group of eager students. But I think I kind of get it- It doesn’t fucking matter what Faulkner meant- Faulkner wasn’t James Joyce, he wasn’t trying to intelectualize his world, his writing or his heart- he was just expressing truth, the way he saw it. And to ask Faulkner to interpret his work is entirely missing the point. Asking Faulkner to interpret his own work is like trying to find words for the ineffible.
So we’re sitting here, literally, so fucking afraid that we have completely forgotten everything that we knew, the moment we were born. We have forgotten that we are enough, we have forgotten what love is, we have forgotten what our heart even is. And we have forgotten all of this because we have been taught to be afraid. We have been taught to fear the future, regret the past and numb the present. And whatever it is that we have forgotten, that’s exactly what we have to learn again- no matter how hard, no matter how many tears, no matter what the cost- that’s what we have to learn again- because nothing that we currently know is going to ever help us- because all we currently know is fear.
“He must teach himself that the basest of all things is to be afraid: and, teaching himself that, forget it forever, leaving no room in his workshop for anything but the old verities and truths of the heart, the universal truths lacking which any story is ephemeral and doomed”
We have to, at some point, accept that the fear is there- and like Faulkner, so beautifully says, we must then forget it forever. But he doesn’t just say to forget it- it’s forgetting it and at the same time, leaving no room for it in your workshop. Accept the fear, let it run through you. Really feel it for the first time, just let it consume you. Cry, scream, have a fucking nervous break down- fuck, have a couple. But for fuck’s sake, experience what fear is and accept it. Accept it and then at that moment, begin for the first time in your life, to look past it and see what else is there.
I’ll be the first to admit- going down into this cave can be overwhelming, so if you do this and you feel yourself getting sucked in, crawl back out- take a breather, take some baby steps and when you’re ready- go back in- even if it’s just one step further. Keep going down and eventually you start to hit upon the universal truths, the old verities and truths of the heart. But first, you have to get past the fundamental stories of who you are- the shit that you have told yourself since the time you were two years old. That’s the first stuff we see when we head down into the cave- but at some point, even if it’s just for a moment, we can begin to see the universal truths of the heart. And without these, our lives are doomed- doomed to be controlled by shit that you don’t even understand or know is controlling you- I’m talking about stories which you have internalized your entire life- stories that you are a certain kind of person, stories that you don’t deserve love, or don’t deserve to belong, stories that you’re stupid or a failure- All of this shit is down there for all of us, it’s just a matter of whether or not you are willing to look it in the face and accept what’s there and in doing so move past it.
“Until he does so, he labors under a curse. He writes not of love but of lust, of defeats in which nobody loses anything of value, and victories without hope and worst of all, without pity or compassion.”
What I think is great about what Faulkner wrote is that, in what is still the shortest nobel prize acceptance speech ever written, he basically wrote the beginning chapter in a “How To” book about life. And rightfully so, it’s main theme is fear. Until we are able to identify, recognize, accept and look past our fears we will be constantly laboring under a curse, as another great author would say- we will be forever stuck, constantly coming and going- talking of Michelangelo. That which we win and lose in our lives will be meaningless and lack all value- for it will simply be composed of the material of the glands- lacking any real value- devoid of all hope… And- as Faulkner says- Worst of all, we will be unable to grasp the greatest gift of all- the gift of compassion. True compassion- devoid of ego, left untouched by the constant roller coaster of our lives and emotions.
William Faulkner’s nobel prize acceptance speech, given on December 10th, 1950 is an astute and honest attack on fear. That being said, it is less of an attack on fear and more of an honest look at people- who we are, what makes us tick and why we are so out of touch with our own emotions and desires.
“Our tragedy today is a general and universal physical fear so long sustained by now that we can even bear it. There are no longer problems of the spirit. There is only one question: When will I be blown up?”
It’s not just that we are afraid- it’s that we are so used to beign afraid, it is such a baseline, for all of us to be afraid, that we don’t even recognize it anymore- it is so long sustained by now that we can bear it. Imagine being born with a pebble sewn into the bottom of your foot and you walked around with it your whole life- that’s just the way your life was. It is easy to see how one could get used to this pebble- probably, at a certain point, even forget that the pebble exists at all.
This is the case with fear. The moment we are born, we are taught to be afraid- we are taught to fear the future, regret the past and numb the present. And in this cocktail of emotional suppression, nowhere does anyone ask the question why. Why would we? Imagine that not only do you have this pebble sewn into your foot- but everybody else that you ever were to meet, also had a small pebble sewn into their foot. Sure, some were smaller or larger than others- but without fail, every single person you ever met in your life had some sort of pebble sewn into their foot— My question to you, is simply, if this were the case, would YOU ask why? More importantly than asking why, would you take any actual action to remove that pebble?
From my experience, it probably depends.
If you’re one of the people on this planet whose pebble is pretty small, maybe it’s sort of nestled into a weird nook or cranny in your foot that doesn’t really have pressure applied to it when you walk, if this is the case, then the answer is probably no.
On the other side of the spectrum, while I don’t have experience with this, I could imagine that if you were one of the people on this planet whose pebble is incredibly big and simaltaneously directly located in the center of your foot- there’s a good chance that the answer for you, oddly enough, is probably no.
In both cases, there are always exceptions- there are always people that will notice the pebble, that will ask why- and there are even fewer people who will take action to remove it- or maybe more accurately- to accept it.
Back to fear though. What I think is so interesting about what Faulkner is saying, is that it’s like, we have this fear that we don’t even notice anymore- and it is this fear, which we don’t notice, which is entirely denying us the ability to even have meaningful problems, meaningful issues- we are stuck wrtiing and talkign about the glands, while entirely ignoring the heart. We are living this life, constantly worried about the future, and in the context of when Faulkner was writing this piece, that meant asking ourselves, “When will the bomb go off?”… “When am I going to die?”…”When am I going to be blown up?” …
“Because of this, the young man or woman writing today has forgotten the problems of the human heart in conflict with itself which alone can make good writing because only that is worth writing about, worth the agony and the sweat. He must learn them again.”
We are so entirely consumed by this invisible fear that we have literally forgotten who we are. We have forgotten that we have emotions that go beyond the superficial ones like anger and fear- these are such superficial emotions, and yet they are the ones that it seems like the majority of us spend our time dealing with- never able to go below the surface and see what’s really down there. Faulkner is talking about writing, but what he’s really talking about is lfie. Writing and life are really just one and the same.
The superficial emotions which we deal with on a daily basis are truly not worth the agony and sweat that are put into them. What is worth the agony and sweat? Well, I can only speak for myself- but I have spent the past 2.5 years of my life going below the surface, taking a peek at what’s down there. Sometimes it’s horrifying, other times it’s truly majestic and other times, well other times, it’s entirely uneventful.
For me, Love is worth the agony and tears- not a love governed by jealousy, anger or fear- but a universal love- a love which is a slow burning coal, not really directed at anything in particular, but rather just kind of there. A love whose natural, and only, livable habitat, is emotional tranquility and mental calm.
And it is this love which I believe is, at least in part, what Faulkner was saying we need to learn again. And truthfully, fuck it, who gives a shit if that’s what Faulkner was saying we need to learn again- It’s what I had to learn again, and will continue to learn for the rest of my life. The thing is it really doesn’t matter what Faulkner meant or intended when he wrote that- all that matters for me, is what I got out of it.
I used to wonder why Faulkner, when giving lessons about his own books at The University of Virginia, would lie to his students and year after year, purposely give entirely different interpretatinos of his work to each subsequent group of eager students. But I think I kind of get it- It doesn’t fucking matter what Faulkner meant- Faulkner wasn’t James Joyce, he wasn’t trying to intelectualize his world, his writing or his heart- he was just expressing truth, the way he saw it. And to ask Faulkner to interpret his work is entirely missing the point. Asking Faulkner to interpret his own work is like trying to find words for the ineffible.
So we’re sitting here, literally, so fucking afraid that we have completely forgotten everything that we knew, the moment we were born. We have forgotten that we are enough, we have forgotten what love is, we have forgotten what our heart even is. And we have forgotten all of this because we have been taught to be afraid. We have been taught to fear the future, regret the past and numb the present. And whatever it is that we have forgotten, that’s exactly what we have to learn again- no matter how hard, no matter how many tears, no matter what the cost- that’s what we have to learn again- because nothing that we currently know is going to ever help us- because all we currently know is fear.
“He must teach himself that the basest of all things is to be afraid: and, teaching himself that, forget it forever, leaving no room in his workshop for anything but the old verities and truths of the heart, the universal truths lacking which any story is ephemeral and doomed”
We have to, at some point, accept that the fear is there- and like Faulkner, so beautifully says, we must then forget it forever. But he doesn’t just say to forget it- it’s forgetting it and at the same time, leaving no room for it in your workshop. Accept the fear, let it run through you. Really feel it for the first time, just let it consume you. Cry, scream, have a fucking nervous break down- fuck, have a couple. But for fuck’s sake, experience what fear is and accept it. Accept it and then at that moment, begin for the first time in your life, to look past it and see what else is there.
I’ll be the first to admit- going down into this cave can be overwhelming, so if you do this and you feel yourself getting sucked in, crawl back out- take a breather, take some baby steps and when you’re ready- go back in- even if it’s just one step further. Keep going down and eventually you start to hit upon the universal truths, the old verities and truths of the heart. But first, you have to get past the fundamental stories of who you are- the shit that you have told yourself since the time you were two years old. That’s the first stuff we see when we head down into the cave- but at some point, even if it’s just for a moment, we can begin to see the universal truths of the heart. And without these, our lives are doomed- doomed to be controlled by shit that you don’t even understand or know is controlling you- I’m talking about stories which you have internalized your entire life- stories that you are a certain kind of person, stories that you don’t deserve love, or don’t deserve to belong, stories that you’re stupid or a failure- All of this shit is down there for all of us, it’s just a matter of whether or not you are willing to look it in the face and accept what’s there and in doing so move past it.
“Until he does so, he labors under a curse. He writes not of love but of lust, of defeats in which nobody loses anything of value, and victories without hope and worst of all, without pity or compassion.”
What I think is great about what Faulkner wrote is that, in what is still the shortest nobel prize acceptance speech ever written, he basically wrote the beginning chapter in a “How To” book about life. And rightfully so, it’s main theme is fear. Until we are able to identify, recognize, accept and look past our fears we will be constantly laboring under a curse, as another great author would say- we will be forever stuck, constantly coming and going- talking of Michelangelo. That which we win and lose in our lives will be meaningless and lack all value- for it will simply be composed of the material of the glands- lacking any real value- devoid of all hope… And- as Faulkner says- Worst of all, we will be unable to grasp the greatest gift of all- the gift of compassion. True compassion- devoid of ego, left untouched by the constant roller coaster of our lives and emotions.
PHONE GAME BY MR. MADISON. LEGIT AS FUCK.
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Phone Game like a BOSS
Prince charming asked me to share my phone game rules, so I decided to write this up. I also should be giving a few RSD lair talks across Canada so I will be able to spew my personalized brand of gansterism to all open ears – joy.
Mofo’s can deny me now.
What im about to share here came as a byproduct of me getting flaked on 10 times in 2 weeks in August. I had to tighten up my phone game, and as a result developed some principle and tips that allow me to get 4-5 Day2s a week now. Good times indeed.
1> There is no Phone game, just inner game displayed – Whatever message you send, how frequent you need to send messages, and the insecure feeling that you feel the need to “always re-spark attraction” is inner game related. Most of your number die out because of inner game issues. Stop gaming, start making connections. Share feelings.
2> You don’t want your number in her phone, you want you in her mind - Credit Fingerman: The goal is not to get her phone number, the goal is to have her thinking about you from the initial meet, all the way through your phone calls. I personally will do 1 week a month where I don’t collect numbers and just give my number out. This forces me to remember to make emotional connections, because if I don’t, there is no way the chick will call me back.
3> The number exchange – I tend to mention a few things when I exchange numbers. This is actually the most import thing I have noticed. Cause when I don’t do this I notice my numbers are not as strong. At the number exchange I will say “ Hey listen, im only gonna call you and invite you out 2 times. Its just my little rule, im not one of those guys that’s gonna call you 10,000 times. I just invite a girl out 2 times, I figure if shes interested she can invite a guy out to right?” – then she responds. I DON’T say it in a angry or bitter way, just very casually. I find this gets some compliance and helps to show my BOUNDARIES.
4> Fuck texting – I know some people have success with it. But I also know that the instructors Todd and Ryan are not really for texting. My thoughts are CALL Always. I will even tell girls that I hate texting and set it as a boundary for them to respect. You can do sooooo much more on a real phone call, connection, voice warmth, seductive pauses, jokes are not taken the wrong way, you can talk about dreams, desires, and you can teach her things. Calling is so much better. When you do this, you will find she will always pick up your calls. Or call you back. Always!
5> It is never too soon to call. – If I get a number from a tipsy chick at 2am. I don’t give her my number, and I am calling her number at 3:15 am. She will most likely pick up because she is curious who is calling her from a number she doesn’t recognize. We will have a nice 10 or 20 min conversation to ground my identity, and so she can re-feel the good emotions with me again before she goes to sleep.
If she dosent pick up, its no big deal. I will just recall the next day and do the same thing.
Most guys are worried about calling the number right away, they feel it will seem needy or desperate. But it all comes down to your initial pickup with the girl and the impression you left. If you were able to get the girl excited about you she should be genuinely happy to hear your voice wishing her a good night and to get home safe. In my experience phone number are only HOT for about 36 hours. So you got 36 hours or so to cement the emotional connection before you get added to the list random guys who call her.
6> The first real call – maybe 7pm or 9pm I will give her a call the next day.
I might reach her, and maybe she has my number save. Maybe not.
If she says “ummmm who is this”
I might be like “Oh is the 300lbs Chinese man will a small penis you had sex with last night”
She will be like “what, shut up”
And I might be like” It was the best 30 seconds of my life… hahahah .. naw im just kidding its Madison you silly girl”… boom… then the awkward “it’s the guy you met at the bar, I had a red shirt on, remember” moment is avoided for me. Get her laughing abit and we are off to happy conversation land.
7> Be busy when you call - When I call im always doing some other shit at the moment. So I will intentionally put her on hold, or tell her to check something on google for me, or be ordering food at mcdonalds ect. But I never ask for the date on the first call. And I always get off the phone first.
Anyways that’s all for now…. I cant say anymore, I gotta hoard some gems for myself. Peace.
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Phone Game like a BOSS
Prince charming asked me to share my phone game rules, so I decided to write this up. I also should be giving a few RSD lair talks across Canada so I will be able to spew my personalized brand of gansterism to all open ears – joy.
Mofo’s can deny me now.
What im about to share here came as a byproduct of me getting flaked on 10 times in 2 weeks in August. I had to tighten up my phone game, and as a result developed some principle and tips that allow me to get 4-5 Day2s a week now. Good times indeed.
1> There is no Phone game, just inner game displayed – Whatever message you send, how frequent you need to send messages, and the insecure feeling that you feel the need to “always re-spark attraction” is inner game related. Most of your number die out because of inner game issues. Stop gaming, start making connections. Share feelings.
2> You don’t want your number in her phone, you want you in her mind - Credit Fingerman: The goal is not to get her phone number, the goal is to have her thinking about you from the initial meet, all the way through your phone calls. I personally will do 1 week a month where I don’t collect numbers and just give my number out. This forces me to remember to make emotional connections, because if I don’t, there is no way the chick will call me back.
3> The number exchange – I tend to mention a few things when I exchange numbers. This is actually the most import thing I have noticed. Cause when I don’t do this I notice my numbers are not as strong. At the number exchange I will say “ Hey listen, im only gonna call you and invite you out 2 times. Its just my little rule, im not one of those guys that’s gonna call you 10,000 times. I just invite a girl out 2 times, I figure if shes interested she can invite a guy out to right?” – then she responds. I DON’T say it in a angry or bitter way, just very casually. I find this gets some compliance and helps to show my BOUNDARIES.
4> Fuck texting – I know some people have success with it. But I also know that the instructors Todd and Ryan are not really for texting. My thoughts are CALL Always. I will even tell girls that I hate texting and set it as a boundary for them to respect. You can do sooooo much more on a real phone call, connection, voice warmth, seductive pauses, jokes are not taken the wrong way, you can talk about dreams, desires, and you can teach her things. Calling is so much better. When you do this, you will find she will always pick up your calls. Or call you back. Always!
5> It is never too soon to call. – If I get a number from a tipsy chick at 2am. I don’t give her my number, and I am calling her number at 3:15 am. She will most likely pick up because she is curious who is calling her from a number she doesn’t recognize. We will have a nice 10 or 20 min conversation to ground my identity, and so she can re-feel the good emotions with me again before she goes to sleep.
If she dosent pick up, its no big deal. I will just recall the next day and do the same thing.
Most guys are worried about calling the number right away, they feel it will seem needy or desperate. But it all comes down to your initial pickup with the girl and the impression you left. If you were able to get the girl excited about you she should be genuinely happy to hear your voice wishing her a good night and to get home safe. In my experience phone number are only HOT for about 36 hours. So you got 36 hours or so to cement the emotional connection before you get added to the list random guys who call her.
6> The first real call – maybe 7pm or 9pm I will give her a call the next day.
I might reach her, and maybe she has my number save. Maybe not.
If she says “ummmm who is this”
I might be like “Oh is the 300lbs Chinese man will a small penis you had sex with last night”
She will be like “what, shut up”
And I might be like” It was the best 30 seconds of my life… hahahah .. naw im just kidding its Madison you silly girl”… boom… then the awkward “it’s the guy you met at the bar, I had a red shirt on, remember” moment is avoided for me. Get her laughing abit and we are off to happy conversation land.
7> Be busy when you call - When I call im always doing some other shit at the moment. So I will intentionally put her on hold, or tell her to check something on google for me, or be ordering food at mcdonalds ect. But I never ask for the date on the first call. And I always get off the phone first.
Anyways that’s all for now…. I cant say anymore, I gotta hoard some gems for myself. Peace.
Lolll. bro, I moved to Austin, Texas.
Come visit me when you can :PPP
Come visit me when you can :PPP
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Relationship post by JRad
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"As soon as I graduate from college, I'm getting a girlfriend".
Ah.. that was the phrase that exited my lips on April 29th, 2010. Been almost a year - actually, tomorrow exactly.
As the end of last year's April rolled around, I was banging this one girl who I *knew* was the perfect match for me. Well, I shouldn't say perfect, but pretty close. You know, with this pick up shit, you try to narrow down your women and just weed out the best one.
LOL.
However, after reading Chance's epiphany post (www.rsdnation.com/node/186427/forum), he hit the sweet spot with this one. Good on ya duder.
What he was saying is essentially, "just because you're exclusive doesn't mean the ride is over". A bumpy fucking ride indeed, sir. See, most attractive females are pretty insecure about themselves. My girlfriend being one of them. If I had a quarter for everytime she thought I was talking to other girls (sexually), or how she didn't think "she was enough" because I egg'd on about having a threesome, I'd be a rich fucking man by this point.
What I'm trying to get across in this post is, life is a challenge - your relationship will ALWAYS be a challenge. I'm not trying to paint a bleek picture on a beaut of a canvas here, because relationships DO and CAN manifest into something amazing, AS LONG AS you're willing to put in the effort. I thank GOD (well, he doesn't exist)... I THANK JEBUS everyday that my girlfriend still (and probably will forever) shit test me. Keeps me sharp, y'know. There have been times where I feel like my relationship is becoming stagnant - and I want every guy on here that's dating a girl to know, that THAT IS OKAY... AS LONG AS you're AWARE it's stagnant, and TAKE ACTION to fix it! If you let that shit linger for too long, guess what happens?
1) She'll become unintentionally distant.
2) Whatever you feel, she feels - so, if you keep the relationship stagnant (i.e. not care), she won't either.
3) You'll logically bring the issue to her - "why aren't you being affectionate?" --> wrong! MAKE HER FEEL again. She's not affectionate with you because you just don't give a fuck anymore. You become too comfortable, you lack in the 'giving value' department, therefore she's lost.
So, for the guys dealing with women in relationships, I bet you're asking yourself, "how do I fix this? how do I bring out that cute, sexy girl that I was once attracted to.. and seems to have disappeared into distant lands?"...
Well, I'll tell you. You need to first, never logically bring this shit up with her. I mean, you can (I know communication is key), but ultimately from experience, it's better you SHOW HER. Do little, cute things for her that have SUBSTANCE. For example, buying a $300 diamond necklace makes her happy for a little bit, but that shit wears off because it's SUPERFICIAL. Although buying your girlfriend jewelry is something she can adore and show her friends, it's ultimately an EGO FEED. Something I did a month or so ago was, right before she took me to the train, I left her a sticky note on the door:
Girlfriends LOVE THIS SHIT, and yours will too. She immediately called me on the train, going on about how "adorable I was" and that I'm the "best boyfriend a girl could ever have". Ever since then she's been on my dick way more (figuratively speaking - factually, she's always down there ;) ).
Player's consider that "chodey shit", which I agree to an extent. Obviously you don't do this shit for random's, because they'd probably call the cops. "Yeah, some fucking weirdo's stalking me with sticky notes. He's in the corner of my backyard with a trenchcoat on, with one hand in his pants, and a burrito in the other". She truly does make me happy (although she isn't my "purpose" in life, she simply adds value), and these little acts of love that actually have SUBSTANCE account for WAY MORE than that fucking diamond necklace does. Hell, she doesn't even wear it anymore. LOL.
Guys, you have to tend to your relationship - don't become complacent. My father's complacent with my mother, and jesus christ, it's a train wreck. Fighting over the stupidest things, he's lazy as fuck... but he's a great hockey player, fucking roofs it everytime on the short side (go canucks). But seriously, he GAVE UP on her. She's now miserable as all hell, ultimately because my dad doesn't give a shit - the moment you give up on yourself is the moment you give up on her, and your relationship. Your girlfriend WILL NOT LEAVE YOU if you tend to your relationship by not letting it become stagnant. Doesn't matter if you don't have a job, don't have any money, don't have a car... she will STILL BE THERE FOR YOU, IF YOU TEND TO HER first.
I've been in that situation, I didn't have shit all and I was depressed as fuck over it. She sincerely stuck by my side when she could've peaced. She didn't leave because I valued HER, and the relationship - and more importantly, I SHOWED HER. At one point I was always telling her "I love you" all the god damn time, meanwhile I wasn't doing shit to prove it. I was like, "well uh, derp derp derp why is this happenning buh derp?" - cause words don't mean shit. That's like going into a graphic design interview with a shit ass portfolio being like, "yeah, my shit's weak but, I have all those skills and can do all that you can" - if that's the case, don't tell us you can... fucking SHOW US!
Guess what I do now? For one, I never TELL her I love her (ever), I SHOW HER! Only time I say "I love you" is when I say "I love you too". Second, I ALWAYS make our relationship fun - going out to concerts, going for hikes, giving her affection, doing those LITTLE THINGS that have SUBSTANCE, because I want to, because I got love for da bitch. You can't fuel a relationship by not giving it any value to feed off of.
Ultimately, Chance is onto something and pretty much put it spot on - I just wanted to add some more value / detail to it. Thanks for writing that, Chance.
ANY relationship can be an amazing one. ANY! You just have to possess strong willpower and put the fucking effort in - because it DOES PAY OFF. She WILL treat you 100x better.
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"As soon as I graduate from college, I'm getting a girlfriend".
Ah.. that was the phrase that exited my lips on April 29th, 2010. Been almost a year - actually, tomorrow exactly.
As the end of last year's April rolled around, I was banging this one girl who I *knew* was the perfect match for me. Well, I shouldn't say perfect, but pretty close. You know, with this pick up shit, you try to narrow down your women and just weed out the best one.
LOL.
However, after reading Chance's epiphany post (www.rsdnation.com/node/186427/forum), he hit the sweet spot with this one. Good on ya duder.
What he was saying is essentially, "just because you're exclusive doesn't mean the ride is over". A bumpy fucking ride indeed, sir. See, most attractive females are pretty insecure about themselves. My girlfriend being one of them. If I had a quarter for everytime she thought I was talking to other girls (sexually), or how she didn't think "she was enough" because I egg'd on about having a threesome, I'd be a rich fucking man by this point.
What I'm trying to get across in this post is, life is a challenge - your relationship will ALWAYS be a challenge. I'm not trying to paint a bleek picture on a beaut of a canvas here, because relationships DO and CAN manifest into something amazing, AS LONG AS you're willing to put in the effort. I thank GOD (well, he doesn't exist)... I THANK JEBUS everyday that my girlfriend still (and probably will forever) shit test me. Keeps me sharp, y'know. There have been times where I feel like my relationship is becoming stagnant - and I want every guy on here that's dating a girl to know, that THAT IS OKAY... AS LONG AS you're AWARE it's stagnant, and TAKE ACTION to fix it! If you let that shit linger for too long, guess what happens?
1) She'll become unintentionally distant.
2) Whatever you feel, she feels - so, if you keep the relationship stagnant (i.e. not care), she won't either.
3) You'll logically bring the issue to her - "why aren't you being affectionate?" --> wrong! MAKE HER FEEL again. She's not affectionate with you because you just don't give a fuck anymore. You become too comfortable, you lack in the 'giving value' department, therefore she's lost.
So, for the guys dealing with women in relationships, I bet you're asking yourself, "how do I fix this? how do I bring out that cute, sexy girl that I was once attracted to.. and seems to have disappeared into distant lands?"...
Well, I'll tell you. You need to first, never logically bring this shit up with her. I mean, you can (I know communication is key), but ultimately from experience, it's better you SHOW HER. Do little, cute things for her that have SUBSTANCE. For example, buying a $300 diamond necklace makes her happy for a little bit, but that shit wears off because it's SUPERFICIAL. Although buying your girlfriend jewelry is something she can adore and show her friends, it's ultimately an EGO FEED. Something I did a month or so ago was, right before she took me to the train, I left her a sticky note on the door:
Girlfriends LOVE THIS SHIT, and yours will too. She immediately called me on the train, going on about how "adorable I was" and that I'm the "best boyfriend a girl could ever have". Ever since then she's been on my dick way more (figuratively speaking - factually, she's always down there ;) ).
Player's consider that "chodey shit", which I agree to an extent. Obviously you don't do this shit for random's, because they'd probably call the cops. "Yeah, some fucking weirdo's stalking me with sticky notes. He's in the corner of my backyard with a trenchcoat on, with one hand in his pants, and a burrito in the other". She truly does make me happy (although she isn't my "purpose" in life, she simply adds value), and these little acts of love that actually have SUBSTANCE account for WAY MORE than that fucking diamond necklace does. Hell, she doesn't even wear it anymore. LOL.
Guys, you have to tend to your relationship - don't become complacent. My father's complacent with my mother, and jesus christ, it's a train wreck. Fighting over the stupidest things, he's lazy as fuck... but he's a great hockey player, fucking roofs it everytime on the short side (go canucks). But seriously, he GAVE UP on her. She's now miserable as all hell, ultimately because my dad doesn't give a shit - the moment you give up on yourself is the moment you give up on her, and your relationship. Your girlfriend WILL NOT LEAVE YOU if you tend to your relationship by not letting it become stagnant. Doesn't matter if you don't have a job, don't have any money, don't have a car... she will STILL BE THERE FOR YOU, IF YOU TEND TO HER first.
I've been in that situation, I didn't have shit all and I was depressed as fuck over it. She sincerely stuck by my side when she could've peaced. She didn't leave because I valued HER, and the relationship - and more importantly, I SHOWED HER. At one point I was always telling her "I love you" all the god damn time, meanwhile I wasn't doing shit to prove it. I was like, "well uh, derp derp derp why is this happenning buh derp?" - cause words don't mean shit. That's like going into a graphic design interview with a shit ass portfolio being like, "yeah, my shit's weak but, I have all those skills and can do all that you can" - if that's the case, don't tell us you can... fucking SHOW US!
Guess what I do now? For one, I never TELL her I love her (ever), I SHOW HER! Only time I say "I love you" is when I say "I love you too". Second, I ALWAYS make our relationship fun - going out to concerts, going for hikes, giving her affection, doing those LITTLE THINGS that have SUBSTANCE, because I want to, because I got love for da bitch. You can't fuel a relationship by not giving it any value to feed off of.
Ultimately, Chance is onto something and pretty much put it spot on - I just wanted to add some more value / detail to it. Thanks for writing that, Chance.
ANY relationship can be an amazing one. ANY! You just have to possess strong willpower and put the fucking effort in - because it DOES PAY OFF. She WILL treat you 100x better.
POSTED BY BRAH
On Bootcamps
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I once assisted a 5 day single person bootcamp with Alex in Sydney. It was a lot of fun and has a number of benefits over the tradition 3 day bootcamp. If I had the money to do it I would do the following:
Bootcamp 1: - I would start with a 5 day bootcamp. This is beneficial over a 3 day bootcamp as you remember the concepts better and the new skills are more likely to stick. You would also bulid more momentum over a 3 day bootcamp. Immediately after the bootcamp I would find other guys in my city to go out with about 5 nights per week.
Bootcamp 2: - I would wait about 2 months to do the second bootcamp. This gives you enough time to practice the new concepts and is short enough to prevent bad habits from setting in too hard. I would use the same instructor as they would know me and my sticking points.
Bootcamp 3: - I would then wait another 3 months to do the third bootcamp. I would again use the same instructor.
Bootcamp 4: - I would do it either 3 or 4 months after the 3rd bootcamp but use a different instructor. This is beneficial as you have a fresh set of eyes analysing your game and you can potentially learn a different style of game.
Bootcamp 5: - I would probably wait about 5 or 6 months between no.4 and no.5. Once you start getting good it takes a lot longer and a lot more work to make new progress. I would use the second instructor again.
Bootcamp 6: Again another 5 or 6 month break.
On Bootcamps
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I once assisted a 5 day single person bootcamp with Alex in Sydney. It was a lot of fun and has a number of benefits over the tradition 3 day bootcamp. If I had the money to do it I would do the following:
Bootcamp 1: - I would start with a 5 day bootcamp. This is beneficial over a 3 day bootcamp as you remember the concepts better and the new skills are more likely to stick. You would also bulid more momentum over a 3 day bootcamp. Immediately after the bootcamp I would find other guys in my city to go out with about 5 nights per week.
Bootcamp 2: - I would wait about 2 months to do the second bootcamp. This gives you enough time to practice the new concepts and is short enough to prevent bad habits from setting in too hard. I would use the same instructor as they would know me and my sticking points.
Bootcamp 3: - I would then wait another 3 months to do the third bootcamp. I would again use the same instructor.
Bootcamp 4: - I would do it either 3 or 4 months after the 3rd bootcamp but use a different instructor. This is beneficial as you have a fresh set of eyes analysing your game and you can potentially learn a different style of game.
Bootcamp 5: - I would probably wait about 5 or 6 months between no.4 and no.5. Once you start getting good it takes a lot longer and a lot more work to make new progress. I would use the second instructor again.
Bootcamp 6: Again another 5 or 6 month break.
POSTED BY Archer
"Smothering and Timing" - one of the best posts I've ever read.
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I say this with the full knowlege that most won't do it. Fuck it.
To overescalate is the best thing ever. It's amazing even if you get rejected. I say if you just over escalate as much as possible everyday, all day and
not only will you get laid more, you'll actually develop a hardness about rejection that will make it irrrelevant if you get it or not. ALSO MOST IMPORTANTLY,
you'll develop a calibration the more you do it to know WHEN to escalate. There is no universal right time to escalate, you have to pay attention to how she
is responding to you. If she goes quiet, still, stops blinking, goes "dumb" or in anyway starts getting "weak", that is when she's prime. If she was talking and
all of a sudden her voice goes lower or she stops talking or stops making sense, is also good. Calibrate. Notice how she normally acts and notice any deviations
from that baseline.
The reason guys get LMR or get resistance or rejections to escalation is they don't pay attention to her responses and they don't trust their intuition. If the time
is right and she's ready, it's time. You must practice to know when it's time. Look out for any slowing down. Look at her eyes.
It's amazing. No matter what any girl says, if you're seen doing what I'm about to say it will drive any girl looking at whats going on CRAZY, not to mention
the girl you're with too.
What I learned (ironically from a female friend who does it with both girls and guys, thanks Mar) it's what I call "smothering". Basically, it's just making sure
that when the girl is "softened" (this is when the girl is taken a back, or all tranced out or w/e) you get on top of her (not hard, you distribute you weight in such
a way that it's comfortable for both of you, don't smash her bones lol) and you're basically dominating her space and body in a soft way. You're basically all
up on her and she's submitting, melting and can't do shit because she's retreated into her feminine. The funny thing is this, if a girl does this to a guy properly
a guy will also retreat into his feminine and melt. Any girl thats watching will get wet becasue it looks so fucking dominant and masculine. You won't get
rejected simply because you did it at the right time. You have to pay attention to how she responds. Smother her and kiss her, kiss her like you're sucking her
soul out into your body. If on the rare occaision you do get rejected (if you timed it right you won't) then it'll still look super sexy to all the other girls that you
were this way. Trust me. This shit is the booooomb. It never fails when calibrated correctly. Observe.
This is masculine polarity use at it's finest. Once you get the kiss do not worry about having "relieved the tension" because you didn't, all you did was dominate
and now you must capitalize. You can at this point lead her away and fuck her.
Smother these girls man. I'm not saying walk up to them and fucking be an idiot. Calibrate, manuever into it, do it.
It's easy and it's fun.
"Smothering and Timing" - one of the best posts I've ever read.
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I say this with the full knowlege that most won't do it. Fuck it.
To overescalate is the best thing ever. It's amazing even if you get rejected. I say if you just over escalate as much as possible everyday, all day and
not only will you get laid more, you'll actually develop a hardness about rejection that will make it irrrelevant if you get it or not. ALSO MOST IMPORTANTLY,
you'll develop a calibration the more you do it to know WHEN to escalate. There is no universal right time to escalate, you have to pay attention to how she
is responding to you. If she goes quiet, still, stops blinking, goes "dumb" or in anyway starts getting "weak", that is when she's prime. If she was talking and
all of a sudden her voice goes lower or she stops talking or stops making sense, is also good. Calibrate. Notice how she normally acts and notice any deviations
from that baseline.
The reason guys get LMR or get resistance or rejections to escalation is they don't pay attention to her responses and they don't trust their intuition. If the time
is right and she's ready, it's time. You must practice to know when it's time. Look out for any slowing down. Look at her eyes.
It's amazing. No matter what any girl says, if you're seen doing what I'm about to say it will drive any girl looking at whats going on CRAZY, not to mention
the girl you're with too.
What I learned (ironically from a female friend who does it with both girls and guys, thanks Mar) it's what I call "smothering". Basically, it's just making sure
that when the girl is "softened" (this is when the girl is taken a back, or all tranced out or w/e) you get on top of her (not hard, you distribute you weight in such
a way that it's comfortable for both of you, don't smash her bones lol) and you're basically dominating her space and body in a soft way. You're basically all
up on her and she's submitting, melting and can't do shit because she's retreated into her feminine. The funny thing is this, if a girl does this to a guy properly
a guy will also retreat into his feminine and melt. Any girl thats watching will get wet becasue it looks so fucking dominant and masculine. You won't get
rejected simply because you did it at the right time. You have to pay attention to how she responds. Smother her and kiss her, kiss her like you're sucking her
soul out into your body. If on the rare occaision you do get rejected (if you timed it right you won't) then it'll still look super sexy to all the other girls that you
were this way. Trust me. This shit is the booooomb. It never fails when calibrated correctly. Observe.
This is masculine polarity use at it's finest. Once you get the kiss do not worry about having "relieved the tension" because you didn't, all you did was dominate
and now you must capitalize. You can at this point lead her away and fuck her.
Smother these girls man. I'm not saying walk up to them and fucking be an idiot. Calibrate, manuever into it, do it.
It's easy and it's fun.
Very Good Post on Text Game
By HPRJ
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Lil update on feisty eyes. I'll let this conversation do all the talking.
Me: Lol so I just watched our little video. When can you sign the paperwork? You're going to be famous
couple of hours later....
Her: Haha sorry i've been at work. Why do you say that?
Me: Channel 72, editor may want to use that footage because its reality TV material. What trouble are you getting into tonight?
Her: hahaha omg. I probably look so nasty! I'm waiting to get off work then go to bed. You?
Me: Early bedtime before a holiday huh. Rookie. Live close to campus?
Her: Haha i'm exausted i've been here since 330. ): (Notice how she diddn't answer my question. She ain't ready yo)
Me: Our conversation was cut short last night. No bueno. Come watch netflix and make some new friends, greek housing on peidmont (: (Plow anyways. Plow plow plow)
Her: Lol we can keep our convo on the phone for now. i'm way too tired
Me: I saw undercover boss, I know what yall go through. Baha, good money but people suck alot of the time. We'll hang out soon then :) (Making connections AKA trust me I know what it feels like to be a server blah blah also, no more plowing)
Her: Hell yea I had to get an attitude with a few people today lol. I did pretty good moneywise. We should though :) (Making connections...she lit up. She's investing more and more into her replies)
Me: Bahah I once got a 2 dollar bill for a tip on a 70 dollar bartab and the dude thought it was okay because people consider them "rare". Retarded (Again, making connections)
Her: WTF id kick somebodies ass. Hahah, you bartend?
Me: Yea depends on if were slammed or not. Boss man is weird cause i'm only 20. But once july hits its on (Notice how I try to stray away from sounding like i'm bragging or qualifying myself to this girl. If I was like "Oh yea im a bartender so cool yayaya huge cock" shit would have been gay)
Her: Haha awwww where at?
Me: Park tavern. Remind me to tell you a funny story next time I see you. We fit an ice skating rink inside the bar! (Seeding.....our day 2)
Her: Idk where that is. But okay hahah. You need to make it soon then because i'm a very forgetful person :) (pew pew pew)
Me: Hey now, could have been tonight. But you're "too tired". ;) (tease tease tease)
Her: Haha sorry, my bed was calling my name. Lol. (: (See right here I totally would have gone sexual on this girl. Something like "Oh wait....I think i can hear it calling my name too" or some equally sleezy line. Shit works. But because i'm somewhat outcome dependent on this girl cause shes so fucking fine I diddn't.)
Me: Ha I see you were in my buddies photoshoot. I was going to go to that. Small world (Making connections, mutual friends, blazi blazi)
Her: Lol yea it was fun! Why diddn't you go?
Me: Something else came up last min. Wait so you're a freshy, do you live in the dorms? (Boom again with the question about where she lives. She's now ready to answer because she's already invested)
Her: It was that gf of yours wasnt it? Haha jk. Yea, I do. (Small shit test. Question answered.)
Me: Yea....I had to drop her off at the hospital because the baby was due. Nothing big. Bahaha hey, looks like we're naibors (: (Shit test destroyed with humor. Tyler talks about it, its call the if-then theory. Exagiration used as humor...IF I had a girlfriend THEN she could have been preggo and i could have drove her to the hospital. Get it?)
Her: Haha don't play like that lol. Where do you live?
Me: I play alot. You'll learn to love it. Uhh right behind the dorms, greek houses
Her: Haha yea we will see about that. Yea i know where you're talking about. Do you like it there? (Lol shes starting to go chode interview on me. Very very good sign)
Me: It's interesting. Haha, arent you supposed to be in bed? I'm about to be. See you soon jersey girl ;) (And bam, its time to cut the conversation. Always be the first one to cut the conversation. Plus name calling is always good)
Her: Haha facebook got my attention. But okay, goodnight! (: (I never answer this text. She's the last one to text me, puts the ball in my court)
Next day I knew she would text me back. The fact that I diddn't respond to her last text just iches away at her until she gives in. Next day around 6pm I get this
Her: Hey. (: (If a girl ever sends you a text with just HEY and a smily face, its fucking on)
Me: Well hello there (:
Her: What are you up to?
Me: Prison break and laundry. But i'm getting hungry. You? (Seeding for the day two)
Her: Is that a movie? Lol i'm just reading with shelly
Me: Lol no but it should be. Tell shelly I said hey. Plans for tonight? (Shelly is the wing girl that was like "KISS HIM YAYAY". So, i told feisty eyes to tell her I said hello. This gets them talking about me and sets me up for shelly to make me look good)
Her: Oh what is it? haha. She says hey. I just have homework to do. You? ( SOUNDS LIKE A DAY TWO INVITATION TO ME)
Me: Its a show. I'm going to finish this laundry then find some food. Wear something cute, you're coming with me ;) (textbook shit)
Her: Ohh ok! I really wanna go but I really shouldn't! Maybe you could come chill here and order pizza or something? (YAY)
Me: Mmm even better. Pizza sounds great. Not sure how long this laundry will be though
Her: Well just let me know! I'm gunna be reading for a while then I gotta write a paper!
Havn't responded to that yet. Probably will with something about me buying beer for underage girls but its alright cause she's paying for the pizza.
By HPRJ
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Lil update on feisty eyes. I'll let this conversation do all the talking.
Me: Lol so I just watched our little video. When can you sign the paperwork? You're going to be famous
couple of hours later....
Her: Haha sorry i've been at work. Why do you say that?
Me: Channel 72, editor may want to use that footage because its reality TV material. What trouble are you getting into tonight?
Her: hahaha omg. I probably look so nasty! I'm waiting to get off work then go to bed. You?
Me: Early bedtime before a holiday huh. Rookie. Live close to campus?
Her: Haha i'm exausted i've been here since 330. ): (Notice how she diddn't answer my question. She ain't ready yo)
Me: Our conversation was cut short last night. No bueno. Come watch netflix and make some new friends, greek housing on peidmont (: (Plow anyways. Plow plow plow)
Her: Lol we can keep our convo on the phone for now. i'm way too tired
Me: I saw undercover boss, I know what yall go through. Baha, good money but people suck alot of the time. We'll hang out soon then :) (Making connections AKA trust me I know what it feels like to be a server blah blah also, no more plowing)
Her: Hell yea I had to get an attitude with a few people today lol. I did pretty good moneywise. We should though :) (Making connections...she lit up. She's investing more and more into her replies)
Me: Bahah I once got a 2 dollar bill for a tip on a 70 dollar bartab and the dude thought it was okay because people consider them "rare". Retarded (Again, making connections)
Her: WTF id kick somebodies ass. Hahah, you bartend?
Me: Yea depends on if were slammed or not. Boss man is weird cause i'm only 20. But once july hits its on (Notice how I try to stray away from sounding like i'm bragging or qualifying myself to this girl. If I was like "Oh yea im a bartender so cool yayaya huge cock" shit would have been gay)
Her: Haha awwww where at?
Me: Park tavern. Remind me to tell you a funny story next time I see you. We fit an ice skating rink inside the bar! (Seeding.....our day 2)
Her: Idk where that is. But okay hahah. You need to make it soon then because i'm a very forgetful person :) (pew pew pew)
Me: Hey now, could have been tonight. But you're "too tired". ;) (tease tease tease)
Her: Haha sorry, my bed was calling my name. Lol. (: (See right here I totally would have gone sexual on this girl. Something like "Oh wait....I think i can hear it calling my name too" or some equally sleezy line. Shit works. But because i'm somewhat outcome dependent on this girl cause shes so fucking fine I diddn't.)
Me: Ha I see you were in my buddies photoshoot. I was going to go to that. Small world (Making connections, mutual friends, blazi blazi)
Her: Lol yea it was fun! Why diddn't you go?
Me: Something else came up last min. Wait so you're a freshy, do you live in the dorms? (Boom again with the question about where she lives. She's now ready to answer because she's already invested)
Her: It was that gf of yours wasnt it? Haha jk. Yea, I do. (Small shit test. Question answered.)
Me: Yea....I had to drop her off at the hospital because the baby was due. Nothing big. Bahaha hey, looks like we're naibors (: (Shit test destroyed with humor. Tyler talks about it, its call the if-then theory. Exagiration used as humor...IF I had a girlfriend THEN she could have been preggo and i could have drove her to the hospital. Get it?)
Her: Haha don't play like that lol. Where do you live?
Me: I play alot. You'll learn to love it. Uhh right behind the dorms, greek houses
Her: Haha yea we will see about that. Yea i know where you're talking about. Do you like it there? (Lol shes starting to go chode interview on me. Very very good sign)
Me: It's interesting. Haha, arent you supposed to be in bed? I'm about to be. See you soon jersey girl ;) (And bam, its time to cut the conversation. Always be the first one to cut the conversation. Plus name calling is always good)
Her: Haha facebook got my attention. But okay, goodnight! (: (I never answer this text. She's the last one to text me, puts the ball in my court)
Next day I knew she would text me back. The fact that I diddn't respond to her last text just iches away at her until she gives in. Next day around 6pm I get this
Her: Hey. (: (If a girl ever sends you a text with just HEY and a smily face, its fucking on)
Me: Well hello there (:
Her: What are you up to?
Me: Prison break and laundry. But i'm getting hungry. You? (Seeding for the day two)
Her: Is that a movie? Lol i'm just reading with shelly
Me: Lol no but it should be. Tell shelly I said hey. Plans for tonight? (Shelly is the wing girl that was like "KISS HIM YAYAY". So, i told feisty eyes to tell her I said hello. This gets them talking about me and sets me up for shelly to make me look good)
Her: Oh what is it? haha. She says hey. I just have homework to do. You? ( SOUNDS LIKE A DAY TWO INVITATION TO ME)
Me: Its a show. I'm going to finish this laundry then find some food. Wear something cute, you're coming with me ;) (textbook shit)
Her: Ohh ok! I really wanna go but I really shouldn't! Maybe you could come chill here and order pizza or something? (YAY)
Me: Mmm even better. Pizza sounds great. Not sure how long this laundry will be though
Her: Well just let me know! I'm gunna be reading for a while then I gotta write a paper!
Havn't responded to that yet. Probably will with something about me buying beer for underage girls but its alright cause she's paying for the pizza.
POSTED BY BAWLS
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Fuck your job. Quit ASAP. And fuck 4hr work week too.
Forget travel and forget girls. (for now)
Then calculate how much you need to live the lifestyle you want everything from housing, transportation, food, clothes, girls, travel money, doodads, pocket money, extra money, taxes. For example, $10k / month? $25k / month? Really study how much. In New York (Manhattan, Chelsea) for example, $5-8 grand mortgage for a good house for yourself. $1-2k for food but be prepared to feed your girls. Fun money, travel money depends $2k? Transportation you can get weekend limo service $2k or you can use Metrocard. As long as you avoid the Tenjunes of NYC, table service, your clubbing should cost no real money except a few bills from your wallet you wouldn't count. So $10k on the low end but $25k and you're flying. So work on getting a $250,000 / year earning. (not salary from a job) You will need far less in Texas, Arizona, New Jersey, Nevada (as long as you're not an idiot you lives at the SpearmintRhino like me) Florida and California just about the same. So really figure out how much you need. My calculation is based on a businessman lifestyle. $250,000 / year is the minimum target for this profession otherwise, what are you doing? Get a job instead.
Then for a year or two, focus on one thing and one thing only. Your business. Work 18-20 hours a day. Work your ass off. Forget your family, your friends, lose everyone and everything. Focus on your business that people around you worry that you might have gone insane. Forget sleep until you crash. Forget eating until your body drags you to the 7-11 store in the middle of nowhere at 4am in the morning not knowing what day it is. Be ferocious. Read 100 books on sales and management before you start. Avoid the pop books being sold by charlatans to the mass market. But be prepared to attend business seminars and meetings with highly successful business owners in your industry. Get a powerful team, a brilliant accountant, lawyer and an equally ambitious partner who you will use to replace yourself later on as the president and ceo of the company. Have a plan. Find a need, fill that need, and aim for millions of dollar worth of problems you need to fix. Then fix that and charge nothing less. Find the holes in your business and fix that. Fire the ones that slows your business down. Even if its you. Hire excellent people. Get the help of two business owners in your industry to coach you or even sit in your board for high compensation.
This is your first company. After 2 years and your company have made millions of dollars. Retire. Fire yourself and put your business partner as the head of the company. As the owner and major holder you can sell, you can keep, you can use as leverage for more ventures, etc. But whatever you do, get your share earnings per year. For example $2 million? $4 million? Don't be greedy. Get your $250,000 per year personal budget minus taxes. Then leave the rest alone. Never to be touched by your lifestyle. Use the rest to reinvest in your company or even better, in creating more companies. Diversify.
But the point is, after 2 years of focus in your business, you are a FREE man. You have all the time in the world and the money for any lifestyle you want. You have a personal budget of $250k a year and millions to do whatever else you wish business-wise. You have the CHOICE to not work again for awhile and you'll be fine...for awhile. What are you going to do with your FREE TIME and CHOICE? Live the life and get the girls? How much of your time will be focused on this? Half your time, full time all of your time? You have this choice. You have no "work", not even 4 minute a month of work to get back to. But if you're like most businessmen, your happiness and your business will merge into an affair no woman can ever match. My advice when you get to that point is to find the "work-life balance" that experts are talking about. For some it may be the usual 50-50 where 8hrs are spent on work, and 8hrs on everything else. It may be 1-2hrs of work a day (Branson) and the rest for everything else. You can choose NOT to work for 6-8 months straight, leaving everything behind, (not recommended) you can 'work' 1 hour a month just to see your business manager for lunch or you can be like the Trumps who spends the 10-12 hours a day building buildings and golf courses. You have to understand the business is not a job. Business creates an aesthetic and beauty in life that no money and women can provide. When you are a true businessman, you will develop the passion for business the same way Roger Federer has for Tennis or Spielberg for Film. It wouldn't make sense for them to give up their passion to go out sarge with Alex. (WTF?)
Yes you will make money. Yes you will get pussy. But you will also get a new purpose, passion, and meaning. Its not as simple as girls and/or money. There are a lot of things involved. A lot of lives will cross your path. A lot of mistakes you will face. There's a lot of pain involved and you will drive your brain to the edge of insanity or maniacal obsession. The way I see it is that I'm a businessman and my life is my business. On my free time, I love to play "golf". My golf just happens to be pickup. Your views and priorities will be different of course. But hopefully my advice will get you to the point where you have the answer you're looking for. Money and women. Not held back by not having money because you focused all your time on girls or not having girls coz you spent all your time on jobs and other foolish scams. There's a third way. The Entrepreneur way. Focus ALL your time temporarily on business. Get real serious. After a while, you will have the money and FREEDOM to do whatever else you want. Build more companies, you can do that. Become a full time international man of mystery dating hot women, you can do that, or something else between. Its your CHOICE.
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Fuck your job. Quit ASAP. And fuck 4hr work week too.
Forget travel and forget girls. (for now)
Then calculate how much you need to live the lifestyle you want everything from housing, transportation, food, clothes, girls, travel money, doodads, pocket money, extra money, taxes. For example, $10k / month? $25k / month? Really study how much. In New York (Manhattan, Chelsea) for example, $5-8 grand mortgage for a good house for yourself. $1-2k for food but be prepared to feed your girls. Fun money, travel money depends $2k? Transportation you can get weekend limo service $2k or you can use Metrocard. As long as you avoid the Tenjunes of NYC, table service, your clubbing should cost no real money except a few bills from your wallet you wouldn't count. So $10k on the low end but $25k and you're flying. So work on getting a $250,000 / year earning. (not salary from a job) You will need far less in Texas, Arizona, New Jersey, Nevada (as long as you're not an idiot you lives at the SpearmintRhino like me) Florida and California just about the same. So really figure out how much you need. My calculation is based on a businessman lifestyle. $250,000 / year is the minimum target for this profession otherwise, what are you doing? Get a job instead.
Then for a year or two, focus on one thing and one thing only. Your business. Work 18-20 hours a day. Work your ass off. Forget your family, your friends, lose everyone and everything. Focus on your business that people around you worry that you might have gone insane. Forget sleep until you crash. Forget eating until your body drags you to the 7-11 store in the middle of nowhere at 4am in the morning not knowing what day it is. Be ferocious. Read 100 books on sales and management before you start. Avoid the pop books being sold by charlatans to the mass market. But be prepared to attend business seminars and meetings with highly successful business owners in your industry. Get a powerful team, a brilliant accountant, lawyer and an equally ambitious partner who you will use to replace yourself later on as the president and ceo of the company. Have a plan. Find a need, fill that need, and aim for millions of dollar worth of problems you need to fix. Then fix that and charge nothing less. Find the holes in your business and fix that. Fire the ones that slows your business down. Even if its you. Hire excellent people. Get the help of two business owners in your industry to coach you or even sit in your board for high compensation.
This is your first company. After 2 years and your company have made millions of dollars. Retire. Fire yourself and put your business partner as the head of the company. As the owner and major holder you can sell, you can keep, you can use as leverage for more ventures, etc. But whatever you do, get your share earnings per year. For example $2 million? $4 million? Don't be greedy. Get your $250,000 per year personal budget minus taxes. Then leave the rest alone. Never to be touched by your lifestyle. Use the rest to reinvest in your company or even better, in creating more companies. Diversify.
But the point is, after 2 years of focus in your business, you are a FREE man. You have all the time in the world and the money for any lifestyle you want. You have a personal budget of $250k a year and millions to do whatever else you wish business-wise. You have the CHOICE to not work again for awhile and you'll be fine...for awhile. What are you going to do with your FREE TIME and CHOICE? Live the life and get the girls? How much of your time will be focused on this? Half your time, full time all of your time? You have this choice. You have no "work", not even 4 minute a month of work to get back to. But if you're like most businessmen, your happiness and your business will merge into an affair no woman can ever match. My advice when you get to that point is to find the "work-life balance" that experts are talking about. For some it may be the usual 50-50 where 8hrs are spent on work, and 8hrs on everything else. It may be 1-2hrs of work a day (Branson) and the rest for everything else. You can choose NOT to work for 6-8 months straight, leaving everything behind, (not recommended) you can 'work' 1 hour a month just to see your business manager for lunch or you can be like the Trumps who spends the 10-12 hours a day building buildings and golf courses. You have to understand the business is not a job. Business creates an aesthetic and beauty in life that no money and women can provide. When you are a true businessman, you will develop the passion for business the same way Roger Federer has for Tennis or Spielberg for Film. It wouldn't make sense for them to give up their passion to go out sarge with Alex. (WTF?)
Yes you will make money. Yes you will get pussy. But you will also get a new purpose, passion, and meaning. Its not as simple as girls and/or money. There are a lot of things involved. A lot of lives will cross your path. A lot of mistakes you will face. There's a lot of pain involved and you will drive your brain to the edge of insanity or maniacal obsession. The way I see it is that I'm a businessman and my life is my business. On my free time, I love to play "golf". My golf just happens to be pickup. Your views and priorities will be different of course. But hopefully my advice will get you to the point where you have the answer you're looking for. Money and women. Not held back by not having money because you focused all your time on girls or not having girls coz you spent all your time on jobs and other foolish scams. There's a third way. The Entrepreneur way. Focus ALL your time temporarily on business. Get real serious. After a while, you will have the money and FREEDOM to do whatever else you want. Build more companies, you can do that. Become a full time international man of mystery dating hot women, you can do that, or something else between. Its your CHOICE.
POSTED BY TURBOAU
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Tubarao with some excellent field tested rules about relationship management
Rules Revisited
0.) All rules can be broken if you're EXPERIENCED.
1.) Time spent together
FB - Only see once a week.
MLTR - 2 - 3x a week. Even if she's the only girl you're [currently] fucking, you still have to schedule her with the idea that you need nights free to fuck/sarge other women (+ nights for yourself).
LTR - See as often as you'd like, but don't move in together unless you marry. A "test run" will not give an accurate indication of what it will be like to live with her once you are married. As long as you are not married, there's the possibility of you NEXTing her, which is harder to do if she's living with you.
2.) Communication
FB - Only call for sex. 50/50 calls are ideal, but it doesn't actually matter, as long as you stick to whatever precedent you set.
MLTR and LTR- At least 50/50 is necessary, although higher on her end is preferable. Mental NEXT after two unanswered messages/calls.
3.) Sharing personal info
FB - Don't answer any personal questions (except regarding contagious diseases, etc.). She is not your girlfriend.
MLTR - Don't answer any questions regarding the other women you're seeing. Sub-communicate only!
LTR - Make sure there's always something about you for her to wonder about... Also, do not enter into a frame of accounting for every time that you are apart! Have your own life.
4.) Never talk about the other women you are fucking, although talking about it abstractly in the form of Rich Descriptions is ok!
5.) Non-sex time
FB - Avoid casually hanging out together. If you run into her, treat as normal. No PDA (except your usual KINO that you use on all women). No dates (movies, dinner, coffee, walks, picnics, etc.)!
MLTR - A "date" counts as time spent together, even if you don't end up having sex, as pertains to rule 1. Most encounters should end in sex. If she starts withdrawing sex, and treating as shit test fails, downgrade or NEXT (also pertains to LTR).
6.) Maintain your frame! Regardless of FB or (M)LTR, you should have the same frame as the day she met you. If you develop one-itis, GFTOW immediately.
7.) Monogamy
FB and MLTR - If she communicates a desire for monogamy, upgrade or NEXT immediately. If she demands monogamy, NEXT her immediately.
LTR - Monogamy must be clearly stated. Don't assume monogamy, as this puts you in a double-bind: If you fuck someone else, she gets mad, if you DON'T fuck anyone else, you become betaized, and the whole time she's free to fuck others.
8.) Fuck her good and hard. Hot sex is KEY, and can alleviate many problems.
9.) As Franco says, "put her to do things for you." Make her bring you things, cook for you, give you massages, etc. She should be compliant. This is especially important for LTR.
By category:
LD - FB only! It seems counter-intuitive that an LD woman could be an FB, but that's the ONLY position that she should even be considered for. LTR with an LD woman is doomed.
HD - Make sure your sex drives are compatible.
LSE/Freak - FB only!!!!!! If I read one more post about someone whining about how their LTR with a Freak is going shitty, I'm going to pound my head into the wall.
HSE Freak/ Libertine - Whatever you call this type of woman, she should be an FB only. "Squishy" FB is ok (FB + friend/ pivot). Frame must be ROCK SOLID.
MD or MSE (normal girls in early 20's) - Screen heavily to see if she's suitable for (M)LTR. If you can't tell, assume LSE and/or LD; better to err on the side of caution (and no, you're not giving up on her out of paranoia; she can still make an awesome fun FB).
Ho - FB. MLTR is possible only if she already has a rich boyfriend. If she NEXTs her rich boyfriend, downgrade her.
Masculine woman - FB only. Every woman is at least a little masculine, but one who is excessively so will eventually drain you (think Hillary Clinton; do you want to be in an LTR with her? Ugh).
Good girl - Screen (a lot) to be sure. Good for everything!
Woman with boyfriend - Nothing changes. He doesn't matter.
Married woman - Don't communicate in any way that's stored. Set a procedure by which you get in touch/ get together. Never bring her to your place, in case she gets attached/psycho. Don't go to places that either of you frequent. Don't ask about her husband or children. Never fuck a married woman in your social circle. The relationship should be purely about sex. If a woman suggest leaving her husband for you, NEXT her immediately. Follow the rest of the FB rules.
Marriage - I have never been married, and I don't believe in marriage. If it is something that you desire, then consider this advice with a grain of salt. As far as I see it, you should only get married to have children, in which case you are choosing to sacrifice a piece of your independence for the sake of procreation. Good for you.
In any Relationship - Zero expectations. Always positive. Never react emotionally (be AWARE of your emotions, and APPRECIATE the positive emotions that you experience and share them with her; don't be a robot; negative emotions are a waste of time). Always busy (with things you genuinely enjoy). You love your life and you are allowing her a place in it. Always lead. Never be fearful. Never see her as perfect. Always be ready to NEXT her (again, this isn't about emotional detachment, this is about only choosing to be with her when both of you are enriched by it; if it becomes a negative thing for EITHER of you, NEXT her). Only think about her when you're with her. Be non-reactive; be non reaction-seeking (and follow all the rest of TD's 25 points and normal PU practices).
NEXTing above also includes soft nexts. Use as appropriate/ based on your skill.
Before you enter into an LTR, you have to have experienced MLTRs. Before you enter into an MLTR, you have to have experienced FBs. Before you have FBs, you have to have a complete life that fulfills you and makes you happy. Most men do this exactly in reverse and suffer at every single step of the way.
And remember rule 0, but don't break rules simply for the sake of breaking them. These are rules that you impose on YOURSELF until you learn to have an unshakable frame. If you break a rule and suffer from it (read 99% of posts on this board), then it is your own stupid fault.
And for those who think I sound like a misogynist: I love women. They are beautiful and incredible creatures.
EDIT (thanks Humbledad):
My definitions:
Next = Stop having sex
Hard Next = Next and cut off communication
Soft Next = Next and continue communication
Mental Next = Taking just the mental steps of a Next.
Downgrade = Go from (M)LTR to FB.
Zan = Soft Next or downgrade with the deliberate intention of rekindling the relationship.
Credit - Tubarao off MASF
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Tubarao with some excellent field tested rules about relationship management
Rules Revisited
0.) All rules can be broken if you're EXPERIENCED.
1.) Time spent together
FB - Only see once a week.
MLTR - 2 - 3x a week. Even if she's the only girl you're [currently] fucking, you still have to schedule her with the idea that you need nights free to fuck/sarge other women (+ nights for yourself).
LTR - See as often as you'd like, but don't move in together unless you marry. A "test run" will not give an accurate indication of what it will be like to live with her once you are married. As long as you are not married, there's the possibility of you NEXTing her, which is harder to do if she's living with you.
2.) Communication
FB - Only call for sex. 50/50 calls are ideal, but it doesn't actually matter, as long as you stick to whatever precedent you set.
MLTR and LTR- At least 50/50 is necessary, although higher on her end is preferable. Mental NEXT after two unanswered messages/calls.
3.) Sharing personal info
FB - Don't answer any personal questions (except regarding contagious diseases, etc.). She is not your girlfriend.
MLTR - Don't answer any questions regarding the other women you're seeing. Sub-communicate only!
LTR - Make sure there's always something about you for her to wonder about... Also, do not enter into a frame of accounting for every time that you are apart! Have your own life.
4.) Never talk about the other women you are fucking, although talking about it abstractly in the form of Rich Descriptions is ok!
5.) Non-sex time
FB - Avoid casually hanging out together. If you run into her, treat as normal. No PDA (except your usual KINO that you use on all women). No dates (movies, dinner, coffee, walks, picnics, etc.)!
MLTR - A "date" counts as time spent together, even if you don't end up having sex, as pertains to rule 1. Most encounters should end in sex. If she starts withdrawing sex, and treating as shit test fails, downgrade or NEXT (also pertains to LTR).
6.) Maintain your frame! Regardless of FB or (M)LTR, you should have the same frame as the day she met you. If you develop one-itis, GFTOW immediately.
7.) Monogamy
FB and MLTR - If she communicates a desire for monogamy, upgrade or NEXT immediately. If she demands monogamy, NEXT her immediately.
LTR - Monogamy must be clearly stated. Don't assume monogamy, as this puts you in a double-bind: If you fuck someone else, she gets mad, if you DON'T fuck anyone else, you become betaized, and the whole time she's free to fuck others.
8.) Fuck her good and hard. Hot sex is KEY, and can alleviate many problems.
9.) As Franco says, "put her to do things for you." Make her bring you things, cook for you, give you massages, etc. She should be compliant. This is especially important for LTR.
By category:
LD - FB only! It seems counter-intuitive that an LD woman could be an FB, but that's the ONLY position that she should even be considered for. LTR with an LD woman is doomed.
HD - Make sure your sex drives are compatible.
LSE/Freak - FB only!!!!!! If I read one more post about someone whining about how their LTR with a Freak is going shitty, I'm going to pound my head into the wall.
HSE Freak/ Libertine - Whatever you call this type of woman, she should be an FB only. "Squishy" FB is ok (FB + friend/ pivot). Frame must be ROCK SOLID.
MD or MSE (normal girls in early 20's) - Screen heavily to see if she's suitable for (M)LTR. If you can't tell, assume LSE and/or LD; better to err on the side of caution (and no, you're not giving up on her out of paranoia; she can still make an awesome fun FB).
Ho - FB. MLTR is possible only if she already has a rich boyfriend. If she NEXTs her rich boyfriend, downgrade her.
Masculine woman - FB only. Every woman is at least a little masculine, but one who is excessively so will eventually drain you (think Hillary Clinton; do you want to be in an LTR with her? Ugh).
Good girl - Screen (a lot) to be sure. Good for everything!
Woman with boyfriend - Nothing changes. He doesn't matter.
Married woman - Don't communicate in any way that's stored. Set a procedure by which you get in touch/ get together. Never bring her to your place, in case she gets attached/psycho. Don't go to places that either of you frequent. Don't ask about her husband or children. Never fuck a married woman in your social circle. The relationship should be purely about sex. If a woman suggest leaving her husband for you, NEXT her immediately. Follow the rest of the FB rules.
Marriage - I have never been married, and I don't believe in marriage. If it is something that you desire, then consider this advice with a grain of salt. As far as I see it, you should only get married to have children, in which case you are choosing to sacrifice a piece of your independence for the sake of procreation. Good for you.
In any Relationship - Zero expectations. Always positive. Never react emotionally (be AWARE of your emotions, and APPRECIATE the positive emotions that you experience and share them with her; don't be a robot; negative emotions are a waste of time). Always busy (with things you genuinely enjoy). You love your life and you are allowing her a place in it. Always lead. Never be fearful. Never see her as perfect. Always be ready to NEXT her (again, this isn't about emotional detachment, this is about only choosing to be with her when both of you are enriched by it; if it becomes a negative thing for EITHER of you, NEXT her). Only think about her when you're with her. Be non-reactive; be non reaction-seeking (and follow all the rest of TD's 25 points and normal PU practices).
NEXTing above also includes soft nexts. Use as appropriate/ based on your skill.
Before you enter into an LTR, you have to have experienced MLTRs. Before you enter into an MLTR, you have to have experienced FBs. Before you have FBs, you have to have a complete life that fulfills you and makes you happy. Most men do this exactly in reverse and suffer at every single step of the way.
And remember rule 0, but don't break rules simply for the sake of breaking them. These are rules that you impose on YOURSELF until you learn to have an unshakable frame. If you break a rule and suffer from it (read 99% of posts on this board), then it is your own stupid fault.
And for those who think I sound like a misogynist: I love women. They are beautiful and incredible creatures.
EDIT (thanks Humbledad):
My definitions:
Next = Stop having sex
Hard Next = Next and cut off communication
Soft Next = Next and continue communication
Mental Next = Taking just the mental steps of a Next.
Downgrade = Go from (M)LTR to FB.
Zan = Soft Next or downgrade with the deliberate intention of rekindling the relationship.
Credit - Tubarao off MASF
Posted by Kuz
Any time i'm about to penetrate a Jew girl, i say the line "honey, we need to do this for the sake of peace in the Middle East". Although her decision has already been made in her mind hours before, this amusing quip hastens the removal of her panties as she laughs and hops aboard my dick, often adding a "Yes we do!". I hope to utilise this line more frequently as i make my move to "Jew York" come February.
Any time i'm about to penetrate a Jew girl, i say the line "honey, we need to do this for the sake of peace in the Middle East". Although her decision has already been made in her mind hours before, this amusing quip hastens the removal of her panties as she laughs and hops aboard my dick, often adding a "Yes we do!". I hope to utilise this line more frequently as i make my move to "Jew York" come February.
Nimbus AKA Jason...
One of my favorite players who ever entered the Game.
www.rsdnation.com/nimbus/profile
One of my favorite players who ever entered the Game.
www.rsdnation.com/nimbus/profile
POSTED BY CEOAROB
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My University is notorious for people getting smashed. Hence why it is the Number 1 party school.
I decided that I wanted NOTHINGGG to do with Alc. It's a great feeling at night, but I hate the after effects.
So in all of my party nights, these are my notes about pulling sober in Uni:
-If I know the girl and we've hit it off already outside the bar, then I'll pull her. She wants my cock anyways.
-If I just met the girl, but it's on, then I commence the drunk test.
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Drunk Test:
Me: "How many drinks have you had?"
Her: "Oh not many"
Me: "Stand up straight"
*Take my left hand, grab her right arm, and push her forcefully* - I'm doing this to check her balance. If she doesn't move, then she's close to sober. If she takes 1 step, then she's beyond tipsy. 2 steps = Drunk. 3 steps = liability (aka, don't pull cause she's going to puke later tonight).
Two Step Wrote:
If you are make sure she is competent, aka not stumbling around and knows whats goin on very clearly.
Obviously what 2step wrote about here is extremely relevant. Since pulling sober can be very sketchy, she needs to know what's up. If her vision is going blurry and she can't look you straight in the eyes, then don't pull. Personally, that would cross a limit.
But here's some general tips I've used:
-When I find a girl that is DTF, then I PROHIBIT her from drinking anymore alc. I'll say stuff like "We have Alc at my place...it's FREE...let's go"
-I usually carry about 3 waterbottles with me every night that I go out. One for me, one that is mine that I share with others, and one to hydrate the girl if I pull.
-I'm typically not on the prowl for drunk chicks, but DEFINITELY for DD's, Non-Drinker girls, girls that have "tests in the morning", and stuff like that. Designated Driver girls are pretty easy. You DO have to deal with logistics (aka, she's driving 3+ other people around, so how are you going to work this out), but they're ripe for the picking.
-If I meet a STUNNER who is very drunk, I won't pull, but I'll basically molest her completely and get the number so when I text her the next day, she knows exactly who I am.
-**I never say that I'm not drunk...everr** - SirKonstantine made an extremely valid point in one of his FR's when he said that he didn't get the pull because he told a girl that he was sober. She was LOOKING for an excuse to fuck him, but she couldn't use "Oh...we were both fucked up...so this time doesn't count".
-Instead, when a girl asks, "Are you fucked up?" I just reply, "Oh yes...so very much" - I'll say that or something like, "Right now...I'm under the influence....of myself"
It's rare that I'll come across this shit since I'm so naturally high-energy and doing ballsy shit that girls and people in general will automatically assume that I'm drunk and shit. I mean fuck, if I walked up to a girl and started hugging her and asked, "Are you my mother???" she's def gonna think I'm from another planet.
But I say all that because it's really a moral issue you have to draw on. There are some girls who I'm like, "Yes...I'll pull this girl even if she is drunk" or "No, I won't", so it's really a case by case basis.
Like TwoStep said, 95% of the time, it'll be all good. But you gotta watch out for that 5%.
I think once, I brought a girl up to my room to drink, she was a little bit drunk already, so I decided to take some shots to "ease my conscense" (sic).
Now, I'm starting to realize that girls just are DTF whether their drunk or not, so I start asking this question, "If she were sober right now, would we fuck?".
But it's really something that you have to experiment with and decide what's for you or not.
Cheers
-AR
PS: I always wanted to get Tyler's opinion about this, so I'm hoping he could contribute on this.
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My University is notorious for people getting smashed. Hence why it is the Number 1 party school.
I decided that I wanted NOTHINGGG to do with Alc. It's a great feeling at night, but I hate the after effects.
So in all of my party nights, these are my notes about pulling sober in Uni:
-If I know the girl and we've hit it off already outside the bar, then I'll pull her. She wants my cock anyways.
-If I just met the girl, but it's on, then I commence the drunk test.
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Drunk Test:
Me: "How many drinks have you had?"
Her: "Oh not many"
Me: "Stand up straight"
*Take my left hand, grab her right arm, and push her forcefully* - I'm doing this to check her balance. If she doesn't move, then she's close to sober. If she takes 1 step, then she's beyond tipsy. 2 steps = Drunk. 3 steps = liability (aka, don't pull cause she's going to puke later tonight).
Two Step Wrote:
If you are make sure she is competent, aka not stumbling around and knows whats goin on very clearly.
Obviously what 2step wrote about here is extremely relevant. Since pulling sober can be very sketchy, she needs to know what's up. If her vision is going blurry and she can't look you straight in the eyes, then don't pull. Personally, that would cross a limit.
But here's some general tips I've used:
-When I find a girl that is DTF, then I PROHIBIT her from drinking anymore alc. I'll say stuff like "We have Alc at my place...it's FREE...let's go"
-I usually carry about 3 waterbottles with me every night that I go out. One for me, one that is mine that I share with others, and one to hydrate the girl if I pull.
-I'm typically not on the prowl for drunk chicks, but DEFINITELY for DD's, Non-Drinker girls, girls that have "tests in the morning", and stuff like that. Designated Driver girls are pretty easy. You DO have to deal with logistics (aka, she's driving 3+ other people around, so how are you going to work this out), but they're ripe for the picking.
-If I meet a STUNNER who is very drunk, I won't pull, but I'll basically molest her completely and get the number so when I text her the next day, she knows exactly who I am.
-**I never say that I'm not drunk...everr** - SirKonstantine made an extremely valid point in one of his FR's when he said that he didn't get the pull because he told a girl that he was sober. She was LOOKING for an excuse to fuck him, but she couldn't use "Oh...we were both fucked up...so this time doesn't count".
-Instead, when a girl asks, "Are you fucked up?" I just reply, "Oh yes...so very much" - I'll say that or something like, "Right now...I'm under the influence....of myself"
It's rare that I'll come across this shit since I'm so naturally high-energy and doing ballsy shit that girls and people in general will automatically assume that I'm drunk and shit. I mean fuck, if I walked up to a girl and started hugging her and asked, "Are you my mother???" she's def gonna think I'm from another planet.
But I say all that because it's really a moral issue you have to draw on. There are some girls who I'm like, "Yes...I'll pull this girl even if she is drunk" or "No, I won't", so it's really a case by case basis.
Like TwoStep said, 95% of the time, it'll be all good. But you gotta watch out for that 5%.
I think once, I brought a girl up to my room to drink, she was a little bit drunk already, so I decided to take some shots to "ease my conscense" (sic).
Now, I'm starting to realize that girls just are DTF whether their drunk or not, so I start asking this question, "If she were sober right now, would we fuck?".
But it's really something that you have to experiment with and decide what's for you or not.
Cheers
-AR
PS: I always wanted to get Tyler's opinion about this, so I'm hoping he could contribute on this.
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Like this. good work son.
You see these priniciples:
"Don't give a fuck", "Lead". "Stay centered", "Don't react" "Escalate quickly and early"
They make something rigid, which is essentially fluid.
You're communicating with another human being not a super nintendo.
LET US TAKE AN EXAMPLE PERCHANCE ....
We find ourselves in an upscale, after hours work bar in a metropolitan city. You see a super hot lawyer / young professional chick with a group of male and female friends chatting and socialising, and old dude is there who looks like her boss, You think to yourself, as all these adventures always start, "She will be mine" :-)
So if we were rigid and thought like RSD fanboy robot we'd say "Ozzie says get physical straight away man". You go in grab her, hug her, mandhandle her = EPIC FAIL
The fact is you could easily manhandle her if you wanted cos "You don't give a fuck" (I mean you truly don't give a fuck) but you CHOOSE NOT TO because it's not calibrated. It's NOT NORMAL (Ok son, you've worked hard on yourself and you are now not socially conditioned, but the other 99% of society is so play smart). Her boss is there, and even if she wanted to fuck you she couldn't look "easy" in front of her work colleagues.
It's a low energy environment so you wanna come in cool and chill. "Leading", means being intelligent and engineering a situation so the two of you can be alone comfortably to fuck. That is YOUR JOB as the man to lead. But when you start out you think it means being being dominant and alpha and dragging her around the club.
Maybe RSD fanboy robot thinks to himself "Tyler says to self amuse and Jeffy does really crazy shit", he goes in to the girl's group and says "I like caesar salad but I don't like croutons". They look at him slightly odd and then he "ploughs" and self-amuses talking about how he enjoys masturbating to cadaveric eyes = EPIC FAIL
(actually if you did this with a smile and were cool enough you'd pull it off - but for the purposes of illustration)
We could quite happily go into such a group and do the stupidest shit cos we really don't give a fuck, but we CHOOSE NOT TO because it's not calibrated. It's NOT NORMAL
I've actually gone out probably for the last 2 months doing the stupidest shit and I'm pretty sure I'm near to the indifference threshold as where I need to be. Cos I did "give a shit".
I don't know if it's cos I'm having HUGE leaps in my self esteem daily from shadow work, but all this shit seems to come together so clearly as: Go up, Be chilled & relaxed, shoot the shit, escalate intelligently and close.
But obviously it's a journey to get there and when you start "Don't give a fuck" is pretty good advice, especially where I was coming from.
Disclaimer: I have taken three weeks off to do SOLELY shadow work as my inner game / self esteem was as weak as a 80yr old's bladder. So anyway, we'll find out if I can "walk the walk", when I hit the field in a few weeks. The field never lies - that's why I fucking love going out. You can think you're this awesome pimp in your head, but the proof of the pudding is if you can close consistent hotties in the REAL WORLD.
Anyway, +(Amor) ... liking your work son. Keep it up. Stay clean, stay strong ... do it for your kids. They need to be with their daddy right now.
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Like this. good work son.
You see these priniciples:
"Don't give a fuck", "Lead". "Stay centered", "Don't react" "Escalate quickly and early"
They make something rigid, which is essentially fluid.
You're communicating with another human being not a super nintendo.
LET US TAKE AN EXAMPLE PERCHANCE ....
We find ourselves in an upscale, after hours work bar in a metropolitan city. You see a super hot lawyer / young professional chick with a group of male and female friends chatting and socialising, and old dude is there who looks like her boss, You think to yourself, as all these adventures always start, "She will be mine" :-)
So if we were rigid and thought like RSD fanboy robot we'd say "Ozzie says get physical straight away man". You go in grab her, hug her, mandhandle her = EPIC FAIL
The fact is you could easily manhandle her if you wanted cos "You don't give a fuck" (I mean you truly don't give a fuck) but you CHOOSE NOT TO because it's not calibrated. It's NOT NORMAL (Ok son, you've worked hard on yourself and you are now not socially conditioned, but the other 99% of society is so play smart). Her boss is there, and even if she wanted to fuck you she couldn't look "easy" in front of her work colleagues.
It's a low energy environment so you wanna come in cool and chill. "Leading", means being intelligent and engineering a situation so the two of you can be alone comfortably to fuck. That is YOUR JOB as the man to lead. But when you start out you think it means being being dominant and alpha and dragging her around the club.
Maybe RSD fanboy robot thinks to himself "Tyler says to self amuse and Jeffy does really crazy shit", he goes in to the girl's group and says "I like caesar salad but I don't like croutons". They look at him slightly odd and then he "ploughs" and self-amuses talking about how he enjoys masturbating to cadaveric eyes = EPIC FAIL
(actually if you did this with a smile and were cool enough you'd pull it off - but for the purposes of illustration)
We could quite happily go into such a group and do the stupidest shit cos we really don't give a fuck, but we CHOOSE NOT TO because it's not calibrated. It's NOT NORMAL
I've actually gone out probably for the last 2 months doing the stupidest shit and I'm pretty sure I'm near to the indifference threshold as where I need to be. Cos I did "give a shit".
I don't know if it's cos I'm having HUGE leaps in my self esteem daily from shadow work, but all this shit seems to come together so clearly as: Go up, Be chilled & relaxed, shoot the shit, escalate intelligently and close.
But obviously it's a journey to get there and when you start "Don't give a fuck" is pretty good advice, especially where I was coming from.
Disclaimer: I have taken three weeks off to do SOLELY shadow work as my inner game / self esteem was as weak as a 80yr old's bladder. So anyway, we'll find out if I can "walk the walk", when I hit the field in a few weeks. The field never lies - that's why I fucking love going out. You can think you're this awesome pimp in your head, but the proof of the pudding is if you can close consistent hotties in the REAL WORLD.
Anyway, +(Amor) ... liking your work son. Keep it up. Stay clean, stay strong ... do it for your kids. They need to be with their daddy right now.
ceoarob
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Hey op...
I was just trying to get you to do a little creative thinking first LOL
Ya your pulling sources is a good idea. But it has a flaw. The small flaw is you might miss the girls who are good to go right away. For example on a wensday night bar. Girl might be ready to pull at 12:30 - that's what happens to me last week.
Then of course they are 15 minute pulls and stuff.
Basicly look for this..
Girls who are in a diffrent frequency or vibe of the club. They will be easy to extract
Girls that are the lone wolf alone. Two sets or 3 sets!
Girls who look board
Girls that look out of place with their friends or up against a pole
Girls that are looking around a lot that are waiting for a man to approach
Out of town girls etc