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Here are the most important things to consider when you meet a girl and want it to lead all the way to the bedroom the same night.




1. Manage Logistics
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When taking a girl home the same night, your biggest hurdle is going to be logistics. This is something you need to consider BEFORE you even step out of your door.

Where are you staying?
Your place:
Is it close to the bars? Do you have easy transportation to your place?

Friend’s Place:
Do you have a key? How are you going to get there? Do you have a room/couch for isolation?

Hotel:
Don’t forget multiple room keys. How do you plan to isolate her if there isn’t a separate room? Make sure your bed is made ;)


2. Have the right mindset

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The most CONSISTENT approach is to determine RIGHT OFF THE BAT what your goal is for the night.

For one night stands, a more assertive, “go for broke” style works best. You want to set the frame of “This is going down tonight!” with every girl you meet.

Screen right off the bat to see if it is even possible. Go into every interaction with a hard core screening frame.

For me that means these golden words within the first five minutes…

“So, what are you up to later?”

Bad Responses:
-“Ahh… Well… I’m the designated driver, so I’m just hanging with my friends for a bit then heading home with them.”

-“I’m staying with my brother, just visiting my family for the weekend.”

-“I am showing my friends a good time, then we are all crashing at my place 30 minutes away.”

It doesn’t matter how attractive she is, or how much she loves you. These situations are going to be very hard to work through, so I’ll usually just try and find another girl.

Abundance Mindset!

The anomaly to these situations is getting creative and trying to isolate her in a bathroom or a back alley. These make for great stories, but again, aren’t usually the easiest logistically to pull, and we are going for consistency here…


Good Responses:
-“Looking for a party!”
-“Whatever, what are your plans?”
-“Who knows, we’ll see where the night leads me…”

Obviously these are great answers. Look to lead in these situations and push the interaction as quickly as you can.


3. Convey yourself as the “sex-worthy” guy

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You want to convey PHYSICALLY that you are a man that TAKES WHAT HE WANTS and isn’t held back by social constraints.

Get physical right off the bat and KEEP ESCALATING. Do this until it leads to a SHORT makeout.

WARNING: Don’t become the tacky makeout guy!

You want to break the makeout first, don’t release the sexual tension!

You need to lead her conversationally also. To lead things in a sexual direction I like using the tried and trusted “push-pull” technique.

“What are you doing to me?! I was just trying to have a good night out with my friends, and you got me all hot and bothered!”

As the night progresses and it looks more and more like she is down to hookup, I’ll escalate to even bolder statements. Here’s an example:

“You don’t even want to know what I’m thinking of doing to you right now.”

This gives you an opportunity to see how receptive she is towards going home with you. Based on her response, you will be able to see if she is ready to leave, or if you need to build more trust and comfort first.


4. Prepare for Paydirt

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To help mitigate resistance later on, I found it helpful to qualify the girl after we have had a strong connection. Give her reasons for why you like her besides what’s between her legs. Just find three things that you really appreciate about her. Something like:

“You know, you are the first girl tonight that I have actually been able to have a decent conversation with. I’m glad we met.”

I’ll usually say two statements that are specific to the situation, and then the third is always…

“And to tell you the truth, I really want to have sex with you right now.”

Just make sure to reserve anything related to sex to the third qualifier, never the first.

Next, it just comes down to putting your balls on the line and LEADING.

LEADING is key. The circumstances are tenuous, and you can’t show any signs of uncertainty.  So it is important to be assertive and decisive.

There are two different techniques for when you leave the venue.

Have a reason for taking her to your house.
“Oh, I have to show you these cool fish/DVDs/youTUBE videos!”

The key here is to OVERSELL IT! “You have to come see the COOLEST FISHTANK IN THE WORLD!! C’mon, it is going to be SO FUN!!!”

The other choice is not to give a reason at all.
“C’mon. Sko’ sko’ sko’. Right now. We are leaving NOW!”

I actually prefer the second option because it is usually obvious that we are going to hookup.


5. Closing the deal

The last hurdle is getting from the club to the isolation location.  It is important to keep the energy UP during this part of the interaction. Again, it’s a tenuous situation where too much lag time will dissipate the sexual tension to a point where neither of you are in the mood. So keep flirting, joking around, messing with the cab driver if in a taxi, and so on. Just keep the energy up until you get to your place.

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Once back at your place, be chill and “cobra-like” walking in the door. Once inside, it’s time for the makeout wall slam of glory. Pin her against the wall and dive into a serious makeout. Then it’s just a matter of picking her up and carrying her to bed.

If you do things right it should lead to a Win/Win situation where both parties are happy. You took all the right steps to prevent any mishaps and resistance, ending in glory. Congratulate yourself… and the girl. smile

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#1
James!

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 Beauty.
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How "early" can you lead?

Is there ever a time when it is too early to lead?
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ceoarob wrote:
How "early" can you lead?

Is there ever a time when it is too early to lead?
Lead from the very beginning.  I talk about this on my mastermind.

Lead the conversation, the rythm, pacing, content...  Lead her physically, lead her sexually...

To lead her out of the club, you have to first lead her IN the club...  Venue change, move her around....

I can boil down almost any sticking point down to a failure to lead...
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Thanks for this, very clear illustration of the fundamentals bruz.
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i really struggle with leading, especially conversationally
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Cool man , very simple and glorious.

Keep em coming teeth
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Awesome article !!!
No bs just good stuff, like to see more of this stuff. Just examples of how it's done.


So the key points to club game from what I understand from RSD are like this:

Walk in
*tap tap*
I'm Stick, whatsup?/ If it doesn't hook, it's just her not in the mood. Or you have some thing about you like
smelling like crap or something.
She: Hi, I am HB
Me:You're adorable/sweet or whatever the fuck (So she knows very clearly your not there for a little chat)
Me:*claw*/*touching*
Just say some things situational dependent or whatever.
Me :Go in for make-out
*make-out*/if she pulls back, just plow and try later again.
Stop make-out first so you don't look like the guy who never maked out before or something.

Chill a little bit, more making out with escalation.
And so on.

The key to this is PRACTISE

Remember that the instructors aren't born like this. They tried it allot and cut off the sharp edges to get this good.
They WORKED for it.

Remember that a lot of the pro's had to do the same embarassing things you're facing right now.

Don't look at the negative side. Look at what you get back for it.



It's very important in this all, that you do it with FULL confidence. That you lead the whole thing.
You don't hestitate



This is how I think it should be done according to the rsd stuff I learned, correct me if i'm wrong.


Question:
"If you come in with full confidence you don't come of as creepy (unless you fuck it up badly on some point)"
Is it true like this ?



Like to hear some comment on this,
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 Golden article, most guys do a lot of things to hide their true intentions when really this is it, if you feel that you have to do things before starting with this you are simple over-gaming.

Yeah, you may get rejected tons of times, but what do you want to have good interactions or to get laid?

Props, d00d.
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HEHEHE, I feel like I was throwing stones and just discovered Dynamite. hehehehhe

About breaking first, the make out  and push pull. GOLD.

I cant help but laugh seriously.

FR Tonite.
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Cheers, food for thought, XD
With the energy do you mean :
 1)  Keeping the talk going strong? 
 2)  Just escalating boldly until you hit home base?
 3) Mixing it up?¨
I usually come with too much energysmile
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Hey Brad,

Good article.  I have a question for ya.

I've noticed on the really great nights when I"m ON, and Manwhore re-affirmed this, girls will take the roll of the closer and will go out of their way to make sure sex happens. 

So, is this a matter of just finding the right girl that is sexually aggressive or is becoming the "closed" somehting that one can learn?  If so, how does one set the frame so that the girls are the ones closing you?
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Great stuff.  You have the best articles by far.  Keep it up.
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This is EXACTLY what I needed. Look forward to seeing you becoming a forerunner!
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Brad- wrote:


I can boil down almost any sticking point down to a failure to lead...

BOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!  ........thats all you need to know..........
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Nice. Very instructive.

Thanks
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I love the pictures haha. I learned that having a mindset before is really good, qualifying early to see if it is eaven possible, and end with strong enrgy. and short make out. NICE!
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i've been working on leading...i didn't think of it like that...

hmmm...screening who wants to fuck...interesting...:P
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I bet one of the most confusing things for an outsider, is when he's making out like crazy with the girl in the corner and thinking he's got a done deal, and when she runs to the bathroom, it's - to quote Jeffy - "Bye bye, thanks for playing"..

Great post..
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Lol the picture at the end of the hands clapping is hilarious. Do you guys choose these yourselves?

I'm with iRay, checking logistics early is something I always forget, and then end up getting frustrated when I go for a SNL that was unmanageable all along.

Thanks for the post, great synthesis of community ideas into a straightforward and succinct SNL plan.
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Awesome shit brad. For a long time I swore God just wanted me to be a virgin, cause logistics are a bitch. Failing to plan is planning to stay a virgin.
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what is the tacky makeout guy?
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Epic. Took a tonne of value. Thank you. Love your articles the most
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10pin did a great post on the subject not so long ago, describing hardcore escalation, you guys might want to check it out : http://www.rsdnation.com/node/69303

What I don't get here is that you're oly talking about a short makeout, then no make out at all ? no make out intensity increase etc ?

Also about the extraction, I don't get the part between the moment you tell her you want to fuck her, and the moment where you're talkin about youtube. You make your statement, then keep the tension fo a few minutes or something, then you give her plausible deniability ? It doesn't seem congruent to me, why bother with plausible deniability at this time and not go home directly after your SOI?
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Automatic wrote:
10pin did a great post on the subject not so long ago, describing hardcore escalation, you guys might want to check it out : http://www.rsdnation.com/node/69303

What I don't get here is that you're oly talking about a short makeout, then no make out at all ? no make out intensity increase etc ?

Also about the extraction, I don't get the part between the moment you tell her you want to fuck her, and the moment where you're talkin about youtube. You make your statement, then keep the tension fo a few minutes or something, then you give her plausible deniability ? It doesn't seem congruent to me, why bother with plausible deniability at this time and not go home directly after your SOI?
Yep, exactly...  That is why I usually go with the "no reason" extraction approach.  I find it more congruent.  But some people don't feel comfortable with that technique, and the plausible deniability approach DOES work.  Many people have success with that method.

And even if you are using really strong statements of intent, it's not like I'm going to be like "Hey, lets get out of here and fuck."

It's still never verbalized while the action is taking place.  I'll say it earlier on, but when I am actually pulling, it isn't verbalized.  So I'll either be vague or have some sort of excuse for coming back to my place.

"A-bar, a-bar!"  "Afterparty!" 

GIRL:  Where are we going?  What are we doing?
ME:  Don't worry, it's going to be fun.

As for the makeout question...  It's kind of more complicated than what has been explained in the past.

I suggest everyone go through the phase of getting comfortable making out with girls in clubs.  Do it EARLY and OFTEN.  You need to have a rock solid intuition for when the right time is to kiss the girl.  Because if you miss that window, you are usually done.

But then after some point, you need to evolve beyond that.  Where you KNOW when the right time to escalate/go for the kiss, but you play with it, stay with the tension...  Sometimes I DO go for a hardcore makeout, sometimes, it's just a swoop in, sometimes it's a little peck...  It varies based on the girl and the situation.

So it's not like a specific gameplan, but the patterns that have coalesced are to AT LEAST be the one to break it first, so it doesn't show that you value it a lot, and don't makeout with the girl all night, because it diffuses the sexual tension.
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nice! win win tounge
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I can't do this, I must WAIT 7 hours! wink

Great post A+
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Balls wish I read this before I went out on wednesday.
mistakes;

1) Made out with her all night
2) Slowly slipped into my head and stopped leading
3) Should Have wall slammed when we got to my place instead ended up talking myself out of sex.

Awesome post Brad. Just a pity I didn't read it before I extracted the hottest girl I've ever pulled from a club. No worries there will be others.
Although I think my problems are little bit deeper rooted than one night of mistakes. I've extracted consistently at least one girl a week for the last one month which I think is good considering I only go out twice a week only been gaming since November. However,I still don't have any same night lays(other than fools luck night a year ago).

Do you have to show raw sexual intent to get same night lays? e.g.

“I’d fuck the shit out of you, but I don’t think you can handle me.”

“And to tell you the truth, I really want to have sex with you right now.”

Honestly I could only pull off the second of these sobre at the moment of which I would have to reserve for the bedroom.

Any advice would be welcome?

Hanx

Mav out
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I love breakdowns of how you guys do these things.  On the surface it sounds so damn near impossible, but really it's just a process that you master.  Sweet bro

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thank you
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this might be one of the most useful articles i've read in a while.
Awesome thanks! 
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fire my good bro.... fireee
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Phenominal article
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My biggest problem. Thank Your Brad.
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#34

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I've invented this shit awhile back... My game revolves around this and its money.

What I typically do is walk up to a set and say in a demanding voice, 'GIVE ME YOUR FUCKING DRINK!'. No shit it sounds like b/s but it works. With enough authority you can get away with anything. Than transition into this. BAM.
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Any experience with pulling to a car?  I know Ozzie talks about it on Transformations.
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Thanks for this article :D
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Great article! How do you change your display name? I want a - next to mine!
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my "wall slam of glory" ended with a hole in my wall... =(
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This article is money.
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